Michelle Malkin » Grass-roots revolt in Austin, TX: “Just say no!” to Obamacare; Pennsylvanians boo Sebelius & Specter, “How can you manage health care when you can’t manage Cash For Clunkers?”

Grass-roots revolt in Austin, TX: “Just say no!” to Obamacare; Pennsylvanians boo Sebelius & Specter, “How can you manage health care when you can’t manage Cash For Clunkers?”

By Michelle Malkin • August 2, 2009 07:50 PM

Democrat Rep. Lloyd Doggett went home to Austin, Texas, and heard from his constituents about the planned government health care takeover.

Message: “Just say no!”

This taxpayer counterinsurgency is exactly what I talked about on the ABC This Week panel earlier today. The long, hot recess is underway. Make yourselves heard. Mark your calendars for the nationwide August 22 Recess Rally. Prepare to be demonized, of course.

And don’t let up until socialized medicine goes down:

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In Philadelphia, Kathleen Sebelius and Arlen Specter get an earful (the YouTube user who posted the video calls the protesters “crazies.” You’re going to get a lot of that. Just carry on):

Better video and report from Andrew Monaghan here. Here’s one question from a woman who ticks off failed government program after failed government program and concludes, “How Can You Manage Health Care When You Can’t Manage Cash For Clunkers?”

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More: What happens when Specter tells voters Congress needs to pass Obamacare “fast?” Watch here.

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#763956

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm, jsr said:

I think lgm is on to us. Clearly, the same 20 or 30 people are showing up at these meetings across the country and just shouting the same slogans about reckless spending and out of control government. If you look closely at the half dozen videos out here, it is the same people in Austin, New York, Philadelphia, etc… They just put on masks so they appear to be different people and pretend to be concerned constituents from the district. The outrage is definitely faked and is not to be confused with spontaneous, heartfelt chanting of “Yes We Can” at Obama rallies.

You just can’t fool those those liberals
#763957

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm, Salt said:

On August 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm, lgm said:

Salt said (#76):

If such a strategy memo exists,

I gave a direct link to it.

You gave a link to TPM, the directness could be debated. This memo is from a group in Fairfield County, Connecticut, isn’t it? Are you here seriously suggesting that this memo is accountable for any and all protests against nationalizing health care?

it does not prove that these protests are the direct result.

It’s evidence, and better evidence than you have.

Evidence of what? That someone (or some group) shared what they thought would be an effective strategy does not mean that every individual opposed to Obama’s brand of health care reform and protests it is doing so as a direct result of this memo.

You can’t prove things to certain people.

There’s more of that “certainty” of which you previously complained.

The existence of a memo from a small group does not prove a conspiracy of plants of protesters at every town hall.

I do find it interesting that you would rather debate the “strategy” and not the points raised, though. Always seek to undermine the person first and then the argument, eh?

A century of research in biology can’t “proven” evolution to people trained from childhood to ignore evidence.

What are you referencing here? I said nothing about evolution. Strawman.
#763967

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm, happyscrapper said:

How about this…”My great-grandchildren haven’t even been born yet. Since they will be paying for this stuff, what’s your dam% hurry?”
#763971

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm, happyscrapper said:

On August 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 pm, lgm said:
The strategy is insidious.

That is the strategy of ACORN, not conservatives. Your observation is the height of hypocrisy. But then, that is vintage lgm. Apparently, if they use those tactics, that is fine. But if we do, that is “insidious”. Got it.
#763979

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm, right4life said:

A century of research in biology can’t “proven” evolution to people trained from childhood to ignore evidence.

oh yes, that ‘mountain’ of evidence that adds up to a molehill. macro-evolution is nothing more than atheism masquerading as science…its a faith…to prove that…list the mutations that led to an eye, in order.

you cannot, nor can anyone else, yet you know for sure an eye evolved..its called faith.
#763985

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm, spaceycakes said:

The issue is legit. The strategy is insidious.

Only when the right does it, er, right?

What kind of strategy would you call…let’s see…waving paint-smeared hands into Condoleezza Rice’s face?
#763988

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm, Salt said:

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm, right4life said:

Don’t follow the bait.
#763990

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm, powerpro said:

Michelle…

Quick question for you please.

First off, BRILLIANT job on The View. Really, I don’t have a strong enough word to praise your appearance. Brava!

Now…regarding the health care bill, I have a serious question for you that I don’t think I’ve seen anyone else suggest as a possibility…and I’d love to get your take on it.

Given the fact that the so-called blue dogs knew they’d get an earful about health care and since congress failed to ram it all the way through prior to the recess, is it possible that the blue dogs gave in and allowed it to go through committee in order to provide themselves with political cover?

I mean they know they’re going to get blasted on it…especially now since as I understand it, we’ll be able to see a final markup (if one isn’t already available). The more people learn about this, the more the sentiment turns against it.

So is it possible they did this so they could say in effect, “See? Our constituents over the recess made it clear that they will vote us out if we vote for the final version of this thing!”
#764006

On August 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm, right4life said:

On August 3rd, 2009 at 3:48 pm, Salt said:

I’m baiting him….
#764024

On August 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm, nail49 said:

Tar. Feathers. Rail.

rocketman: I am for stocking up on rotten vegetables to heave at them!
#764026

On August 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pm, jangar said:

You know, I could care less if Obama managed a chain of 7-11’s well…it still doesn’t qualify him to manage my healthcare. The response from America should be a collective HELL NO as opposed to arguing over merits, etc. Same thing with the congress critters on break…HELL NO!
#764115

On August 3rd, 2009 at 5:32 pm, Misscheryl said:

can we say ut oh:

AP ENTERPRISE: Biggest revenue drop since 1932

WASHINGTON – The recession is starving the government of tax revenue, just as the president and Congress are piling a major expansion of health care and other programs on the nation’s plate and struggling to find money to pay the tab.

The numbers could hardly be more stark: Tax receipts are on pace to drop 18 percent this year, the biggest single-year decline since the Great Depression, while the federal deficit balloons to a record $1.8 trillion.

one note: People aren’t spending money because they DON’T TRUST THIS ADMINISTRATION. Why is that so hard to understand?
#764126

On August 3rd, 2009 at 5:37 pm, Misscheryl said:

It’s beginning to look a lot like Michigan and California.
What is the common denominator with Michigan, California and the U.S., (besides the fact that all of these places are broke)? Hummmmm?
#764159

On August 3rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm, California Red said:

Want to be even more enraged? Look at Doggets claim that the “mob” was an astroturf effort of the Republican party that has strengthened his resolve to pass the legislation.

Good on him for taking that attitude. I hope all elected officials in the Democratic party misunderestimate the pulse of the Nation.
#764188

On August 3rd, 2009 at 6:38 pm, Misscheryl said:

They don’t call them stupid for nothing do they, Red.
#764210

On August 3rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm, lgm said:

Salt said (#86):

Don’t follow the bait.

The point was not to convince you or enter a debate on evolution. It was to show others that no amount of evidence will convince you, given that you don’t believe in evolution.

A group of Republican operatives follows a Democratic Congressman around his district disrupting all his constituent meetings with their uncontrollable unruly behavior — if it’s not astroturf, the Republican rank and file is more rotten than I thought.
#764262

On August 3rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm, mattm said:

My congress critter has found a new way to avoid a public town hall, do it via conference call whew we can shut you up at the push of a button.

http://courtney.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=140621
#764274

On August 3rd, 2009 at 7:30 pm, nail49 said:

Republican operatives follows a Democratic Congressman

lgm: Did you likewise call out the Code Pinkos who disrupted Congressional hearings to make their voices heard? You don’t have to answer, I know the answer…

This was a Townhall meeting where the Congressman was supposed to listen to his constituents. Obviously he wasn’t in a listening mode so they TOLD him, in no uncertain terms, how he should vote. If he disregards their voices now, then he will certainly hear their voices next election day. Or would that too be something common citizens are not allowed to do?

San Fran Nan earlier stated she ‘felt’ that 70% of the American public want Congress to pass their health care package. If she had the intestinal fortitude to hold a Townhall meeting she would be quickly disabused of that idea!
#764290

On August 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm, beenthere said:

I just got off the phone with the office of my congressman (Inslee). There will be no townhall as such I was informed. Instead there will be a “telephone townhall,” which means as a good subject I will be given a phone number to call on a wednesday evening. If I am lucky and get through, I will be permitted to ask a question, and presumably everyone on the line will be blessed with the answer.

You will be happy to learn the only four-letter words I used were “dear” and “lame” But this is not acceptable. The cowards have to come out or resign.
#764310

On August 3rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm, Salt said:

On August 3rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm, lgm said:

Salt said (#86):

Don’t follow the bait.

The point was not to convince you or enter a debate on evolution. It was to show others that no amount of evidence will convince you, given that you don’t believe in evolution.

I’m assuming you’re speaking about some general “you”. The “point” wasn’t a point at all, it was an off-topic strawman. Or perhaps it was some a attempt to attack my character or beliefs on an outside topic in some misguided notion it would add credibility to your previous argument? Both fail as I have never stated here that I do not believe in evolution.

A group of Republican operatives follows a Democratic Congressman around his district disrupting all his constituent meetings …

Where does it say that this same specific group of people have followed Specter or Doggett around?

…with their uncontrollable unruly behavior — if it’s not astroturf,

Still not evidence. We know you’d like to believe this is astroturfing so that you could justify to yourself that the number of people distrustful of government run health care is smaller, but you still haven’t proven it.

…the Republican rank and file is more rotten than I thought.

Are we back to emotional arguments and assumptions that anyone who opposes an Obama objective is automatically a Republican?
#764352

On August 3rd, 2009 at 8:29 pm, wren said:

To Nail49 # 97

San Fran Nan earlier stated she ‘felt’ that 70% of the American public want Congress to pass their health care package. If she had the intestinal fortitude to hold a Townhall meeting she would be quickly disabused of that idea!

As of a phone call to her office on Friday, San Fran Nan had no Town Hall meetings scheduled in her district.

The rest of the congresspeople should be really angry that she is sending them out to have Town Hall meetings to sell her plan when she is not willing to have even one herself!

And the voters of San Francisco should be angry that she doesn’t think it is necessary to have a meeting for constituents!
#764359

On August 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm, lgm said:

nail49 said (#97):

Did you likewise call out the Code Pinkos who disrupted Congressional hearings to make their voices heard?

I don’t remember specific instances, but I’m sure Code Pink has been disruptive. I do not approve of that. They were dealt with as was appropriate — they were removed from the hearing room.

These conservative hecklers should get the same treatment. They should be removed once they become disruptive. I can see it now: MM hyperventilates over “Nazi tactics” as Republican hecklers are removed from a Congressman’s townhall meeting (of course, real Nazis would just shoot them).
#764379

On August 3rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm, wren said:

To lgm # 101

Here is the link to the SF Chronicle coverage of Code Pink protestors at the last Town Hall meeting Nancy Pelosi held in San Francisco in January 2006.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/15/BAGSMGNJDL15.DTL

As the article describes:
“The protesters stood quietly in front of Pelosi waving their signs for the entire two-hour meeting, while hecklers from the audience frequently interrupted the talk.”
#764418

On August 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm, NC BLUE said:

lgm—now you are worried about busing people to political events. WOW–isn’t this what the lefties do all the time–except they pay the people–especially to vote. Maybe your saviour can have the black panthers provide security. They might get their a$$ kicked this time. You can’t stand vocal protests against socialized medicine–to f–ing bad.
#764420

On August 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 pm, nail49 said:

I do not approve of that.

lgm: The question was, “Did YOU call out Code Pinko for their actions?”

I already knew the answer, “No, you didn’t and you won’t.”

You reserve your condemnation for those with whom you do not agree. Those who support your agenda get a pass from you — you leave clean-up to others so you don’t have to get your hands dirty from those who think as you do.

Typical liberal.

This was NOT a Congressional hearing, it was a Townhall meeting where the Congressman was supposed to hear from his constituents. Essentially he was putting his fingers in his ears and disregarding their inputs, so they resorted to a means of making certain he heard their message without having to listen to him spout off the party line.

Bad form, perhaps. Effective, you betcha! Although he did not want to, he heard and had d@mn well better remember how his constituents feel about the issue at hand.
#764486

On August 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

On August 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm, lgm said:

These conservative hecklers should get the same treatment. They should be removed once they become disruptive.

Yeah, that whole freedom of speech has no place in a town hall meeting, right lgm?
#764521

On August 4th, 2009 at 12:01 am, englishqueen01 said:

Yeah, that whole freedom of speech has no place in a town hall meeting, right lgm?

Oh, it does…but only when the messengers have messages lgm – and our liberal overlords – approve of. Remember how under Bush dissent was “patriotic”? Now it’s treason and not protected speech.

Same thing with the Obama as The Joker posters – outrage for blaspheming The One, but as Newbusters points out, not so much anger when the same image of Bush was reproduced last year(along with hundreds of other demeaning images throughout his presidency).

I called it ages ago – anything said or done that questions or challenges Obama will not only be treasonous, but “racist” too!

But, funny, all the liberals who called me delusional back then have yet to apologize…
#764592

On August 4th, 2009 at 2:35 am, 31Bravo said:

Since I love the sound of liberal heads popping, I have created the perfect line of clothing for wear at your next Tea Party or Town Hall Meeting. All the cool kids are wearing them.

And the comment I read from a liberal at the LA Weekly blog stating that he would punch anyone he saw wearing one, no questions asked was more than enough to motivate me to make them.

See that fool here:http://blogs.laweekly.com/ladaily/politics/new-anti-obama-joker-poster/

And the fashionable apparel here: http://www.cafepress.com/4therepublic

More items will be posted soon and I do take custom orders.
#764600

On August 4th, 2009 at 5:41 am, Ignatius Reilly said:

Very depressing to open this thread this morning and see the rash of most recent comments ensnared with the leftist infiltrator, lgm.

Screw lgm.
#764609

On August 4th, 2009 at 7:46 am, ProudGulfWarVet65 said:

Screw lgm.

Not even at gunpoint. Pinkos annoy me enough as it is.
#764621

On August 4th, 2009 at 8:40 am, stillontheroad said:

lgm said:

There is a big difference between a bunch of thugs spouting the party line and real people fed up with give aways and hand outs to crack heads and their ilk.
#764622

On August 4th, 2009 at 8:41 am, MichaelO said:

Michelle, the Tea Party types are over-running every town hall and owning every rally across the country, even in liberal areas. we had to add a special sidebar call ‘elsewhere’ just to keep up with the latest ones. Many Congresspeople are taking the unprecedented step of not having any open meetings in the August recess; including Chet Edwards in Texas and Dan Boren in Oklahoma. It won’t matter; their constituents will be rallying in mass at their offices anyway.

At this rate, the Democrats may end up looking back at 1994 as being not so bad.
#764624

On August 4th, 2009 at 8:42 am, MichaelO said:

Forgot to add the link
#764647

On August 4th, 2009 at 9:22 am, rightwingrocker said:

The Old Sage is surely proud to know that the Revolution is being televised!

RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
#764654

On August 4th, 2009 at 9:30 am, rightwingrocker said:

My Senators are hiding.

I don’t see Messrs. Andrews, Menendez, or Lautenberg making much fuss to face people.

Menendez wants you to email him – yeah woohoo baby as if he’s going to bother. Neither Andrews nor Lautenberg even goes there. At least they’re honest.

RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com