Grass-roots revolt in Austin, TX: “Just say no!” to Obamacare; Pennsylvanians boo Sebelius & Specter, “How can you manage health care when you can’t manage Cash For Clunkers?”
Democrat Rep. Lloyd Doggett went home to Austin, Texas, and heard from his constituents about the planned government health care takeover.
Message: “Just say no!”
This taxpayer counterinsurgency is exactly what I talked about on the ABC This Week panel earlier today. The long, hot recess is underway. Make yourselves heard. Mark your calendars for the nationwide August 22 Recess Rally. Prepare to be demonized, of course.
And don’t let up until socialized medicine goes down:
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In Philadelphia, Kathleen Sebelius and Arlen Specter get an earful (the YouTube user who posted the video calls the protesters “crazies.” You’re going to get a lot of that. Just carry on):
Better video and report from Andrew Monaghan here. Here’s one question from a woman who ticks off failed government program after failed government program and concludes, “How Can You Manage Health Care When You Can’t Manage Cash For Clunkers?”
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More: What happens when Specter tells voters Congress needs to pass Obamacare “fast?” Watch here.
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I suppose he’ll do like his democratic colleagues, and just stop going home.
I cannot wait for the first Congressman to tell me this will never happen in the U.S. under Obamacare.
British Left in Pain
Shoot it until it is dead and then empty another magazine into it just to make sure.
love it…this needs to be repeated at every congressional office in the country and every single townhall meeting…let them have it both barrels!!!
It’s on!
The socialist left can whine and moan about the word “counterinsurgency” all they want. The fact is the socialist left branch of the democrat party are the lawless insurgents who are trying to turn our Representative Republic into the old Soviet Union! This will not happen. Nope, we will “cling” to our liberty and freedoms and we will be victorious.
By the way, our delegation from PA is still missing in action, cowards
I saw on Fox Report today a revolt against Specter and Sebilius in Pennsylvania during a townhall. A lot of boo’s against these two liberals.
Ouch. Doggs’s constituents look pissed.
I saw two info-babes this morning (one on CNN, the other on MSNBC) say that, in relation to Obama’s current health care proposal, those who fear diminished standards of care for the elderly are flat out lying.
Prediction - this is a mantra that Podesta’s media group will have the MSM repeating constantly until Congress returns from vacation, because Obama hasn’t been exactly delivering out there on the road or through his pressers. Judging public reaction so far, he’s going to need all the media help he can get.
I’m surprised this happened in Austin. Austin is liberal, very liberal, compared to the rest of Texas.
That there are people there who protested is a good sign.
Columbus, OH had *thousands* show up, although the media only said “hundreds.”
Kim Healy speaks. (Definitely worth a click – trust me.)
The YouTuber has lots of others, including a speech by Fox’s Judge Andrew Napolitano
From Flyover’s link to the Telegraph – I love this rationale:
Why not cut the number of treatments to ZERO? That would save even more!
Or maybe Barack could actually LISTEN to the other side!! The GOP plan.
I missed that. It looks like Specter has a few townhall meetings scheduled now, the nearest on the 13th in Kittanning. I’ll be in Alabama on the 13th, rats.
Lord Doggett will ignore the protesters they are just evil republican AstroTurf tea baggers. Must be if there are more than 7 in AweStun Taxes.
#11 said:
You’re probably right. From the individual who filmed this clip, on Youtube:
My Senators are hiding. Calls to their offices result in prevaricating and dancing around ‘when’ or ‘if’ either of them would be holding a Town Hall meeting.
Anyone have any suggestions? If I call DC, they refer me to the local office saying they will know…..the local office then doesn’t know. Franken’s DC office refers you to a number that only has voicemail. One person in Klobuchar’s office said “Well, we only notify the media if we are doing a meeting.” No amount of cajoling could get them to email it out to constituents !!
Cowards like this drive me crazy. There are real questions to be answered.
One of my FB friends was there, and this is what she has to say about this troll’s appearance:
I was there and very few pro obamacare supporters. He did say that the opinions of his constituents do not matter to him and that he would vote for the bill anyway. It’s time to show him the meaning of unemployment in 2010.
Oh you mean the same people who will show him the exit in November 2010.
Hey, FRAM oil filter commercial time for these people, “Pay me now or pay me later. Show them YOUR “thug thizzle.”
“When all you have is a hammer treat everything like a nail.”
Old Russian Proverb
The poster of the vid may have called us crazies, but judging by all the comments following the vid he’s the only one who’s drinking that particular flavor of Kool-Aid. So there’s nothing to get used to in that regard, the majority’s on our side. Jefferson, et al., please stop turning over in your graves, we’ll set things aright again, you’ll see.
2010 just looks more and more enticing – not that the Republicans have any clue how to take advantage of Democrat miscues.
I can’t wait for the chance to vote against SpecterDetector – he gets further and further to the left with every new piece of legislation.
You’re right, dan. RINO hunting is catching on, especially among those of use who once believed in the GOP.
Time to make them go the way of the Do Do.
the crowds are telling them not and they still don’t have a clue…they’ll just go back and vote for it….sphincter just stands there and tells them to read the bill he hasn’t even read even though the crowd is yelling at him against it…what a dimwit…keep it up…keep telling them “Just Say NO” and we are coming, we are coming…your pink slips are in the mail come 2010 or sooner….
Hey, Zorro, are you familiar with Kittanning,PA? I grew up 3 miles south in Ford City. Where is Specter speaking?
Arlen is getting too old for this…he should maybe just go home.
Looks like the peasants are revolting. As this grows and more congressman and Obama hacks are booed we’ll be told by the MSM,as Andrea Mitchell put it, “voters may not know what’s good for them.” What amazes me about these arrogant socialists is that they seem blind to the fact that their beloved welfare state is crumbling about them and it going to get worse soon. Instead of making the needed reforms that could possibly save it and their political futures, they seem intent on accelerating it’s demise by creating yet more out of control programs. They are completely blinded by their ideology to reality and indifferent to the havoc their schemes will wreak upon this nation.
Facts? We’re well intentioned. We don’t need no stinkin’ facts.
Think they’re starting to realize we’re not eating their “crap sandwiches?”
Name ONE successful federal gov’t. program!
Thanks to MarcoPolo for that tea party-Napolitano speech link. Absolutely super – I’ll be posting that on my blog.
3 1/2 years of sheer lunacy to go.
They’ll come back and take the heat for one or maybe two meetings for the purpose of plausible deniability. Then it’s back to Chicago D.C. and give away the farm to socialism.
And…, if I get voted out, well so be it. I’m too entrenched in the mire now to do anything about it, I’ve been here so long and my fingers are in so many pockets now that my govt. salary is only a small percentage of my income. I’ll still be pimping my vote and suckling from the teat of the establishment that has turned into the great whore in D.C. It’ll just be out of an office over there in that building.
…and, who knows, I might be back, once the people get used to the idea.
Did my ears mishear or did Arlen Spector actually say 47 BILLION with a B and not Million with an M? Sheesh, what a tool.
The crazies are definitely on the loose. Whose idea was it to let the Congresscritters out of their cages, anyway?
We need a website where readers can submit townhall meeting schedules as they are disclosed by legislators and discovered by constituents. These townhalls need to be packed by opposition to this big govt tripe, but we need to know these schedules in advance. Can someone here help with this project, please?
To: engerms #29
Great idea! The web site should also list the Reps and Senators who are too cowardly to hold a Town Hall meeting during the August recess!
We need to Vote the Cowards out of office in 2010!!!
It would also be good to list the candidates who are running against the cowards and the opposing candidates’ web sites so we can get to work on supporting the opposition candidates!
Somebody needs to get up and tell these idiot DC zombies that ” We are here to educater you on Washington policies and NOT… NOT the other way around”!
I’m sick of these pompous asses getting up and condescending the American people on what we should be doing.
It’s time once and for all to set them straight. THEY WORK FOR US AND WE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN’ TEACHABLE MOMENTS!
WE’RE SHOWING UP TO TEACH THEM FOR GOD’S SAKE!
LOL! That is a killer line!
That line could be the “Where’s the beef” of the ObamaCare debate.
Thanks, wren! Your ideas are excellent as well. This is a time when I wish I had some web skills. I wouldn’t know where to start.
MM, there are days I feel that I was born to be demonized for what I believe in, and that demonization won’t deter my fight agianst socialism.
If we make any headway against the creeping socialism, it will be because of grass-roots efforts. The Republican leadership is still in disarray and even hostile to its base..This is why some hospitals/insurers began trying to cut deals with Obama.
Let’s prove them wrong.
There are several, but none to the benefit of the concerned and informed taxpayers. Every program a politician will cite is a successful one – successful at keeping them in office.
To Engerms #33
I think you already made a great start by putting the request out to the Michelle Malkin community!
This is where Libertybelle’s Tea Party movement began! Never underestimate the power of Michelle’s patriots!
Judging from the hared for my Sen. Chris Dodd and the Dem reps in CC at the Tax Day Tea Party any towns halls should be interesting.
I can’t wait.
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation….
Look at the bill before us, marble-mouth says. Conyers won’t even take the trouble to read it.
For all you iPhone users out there you can download the app MyGov from the iTunes store and have access to all of your Federal Elected Officials. When you are in the car and can’t look at a web site for their phone numbers then you can just pull up from this app & give them a call. Make good use of your commute time.
I’m making time to call several reps in Ga this week. If they don’t ask my address I won’t give it. Who said we can’t call every rep in this country and voice our opinions?
MyGov – check it out.
The little boy with his hands over his ears when Specter is speaking says it all!
Thanks Michelle for providing a vehicle by which we can stay informed and also doing so much of the work yourself. It is greatly appreciated and it is places like this and people like you who will help us stop this runaway socialist train which is the enemy of our great country and it’s citizens.
From what I understand, my congressman Mike Michaud (ME) has chosen not to come home to face his constituents. He has a nice new beautiful home in the Bahamas, and will be going straight there for his break.
Look at where we are at….so called “Representatives” that is people who’s job it is to represent the people that elected them, with me so far,….consider themselves to be “honor” bound to ignore their “sacred” oaths. Of course the hand on the Bible thing is irrelevant, because we are no longer a Christian nation. Admittedly NOT ONE of these “representatives” is smart enough to read and understand even one page of this utopian dream, but be assured because they heard from somebody that someone has read some of it and is pretty sure that these pages of paper once signed will cure everything. Of Course though we must understand that our Great Leaders cannot at this time subject themselves to what they are so eager to force on us little ones.. It is good enough for us, but they would not consider subjecting themselves or their families to such foolishness.
And one more thought…what ever else a Muslim when making a oath on the Koran Will think twice before breaking that oath.
Don’t think the Saul Alinsky method of community organizin’ is working out so well…
Interesting article and great comments. Now that our government has our attention, we need to organize and get their full attention. America does not need Clunker Care for any segment of our society.
The only non-violent way to stop the disaster that is the Obama administration is to go to town hall meetings and let the politicians have it with both barrels. These elitist politicians supposedly work for us. Hopefully, in 2010, they will be out on the street having to live under the disasters they are creating.
If would be poetic justice if Specter was denied further cancer treatment because of his age.
One final point, the people who are going to these meetings are the working class who knows what is going on. You note that the welfare class isn’t there because they figure to get more government goodies at the expense of those who work for a living. We need a complete house and senate cleaning over the next few years followed by a massive reduction in the government bureaucracy – starting with the Departments of Energy and Education.
The interesting thing is that when a small group of liberal activists protest something, the press turns it into “Million Man March II” and congress either stops impending legislation or speeds through “needed” legislation at Warp 9.
When a larger group of concerned citizens voices it’s displeasure at more socialist legislation, the press denegrates them and congress doesn’t listen.
But there’s no bias!
Sebelius: “Let me first point out that I have never been a member of Congress.” (Boo!!!) “I’m just stating a fact.” (Boo!!!!)
Not able to calm the crowd with “We’ve gotta get this done fast.” (Boo!!!! x100), Specter launches into a sob story about his father(?, I don’t want to watch that video again.)
When Sebelius suggests to the audience that they urge their Congressmen to read the bill, someone should have asked both of them if THEY had read it. I’m sure it would have triggered another sob story.
What effete weasels. Maybe they should have come prepared with real explanations and real answers to real questions.
Gotta go. I’m busy trying to make money to buy cars for my neighbors after I helped them stay their mortgages and now I have to pay for their health insurance too. What am I doing wrong?
These are my beautiful American people.
I’ve never been prouder.
Finally, the working middle class has had it with the growth of government. Throw the bums out and start with the telephone book.
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Tar. Feathers. Rail. “Representatives”. Senators. RINO’s.
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Some assembly required! Let’s pimp their rides out of town.
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John Bibb
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What someone should have done was toss down a printed copy of the US Constitution and asked “Since you don’t bother reading legislation, how about you use your valuable time reading THAT for ONCE? And don’t bother bringing any lawyers, it’s pretty straightforward.”
A quick review the background of Kathleen Sebelius will show she was born into a powerful political family and has spent her most of her adult life as a politician. Even worse from Wiki:
And this is somebody I should trust to “reform” the health care system.
The best part about that video, and another on Drudge, is her utter bewilderment that the people are not in awe of her vaunted “public service” and seems unable to comprehend why anybody would not be pleased to surrender more of their money and liberty to an ever-growing, insatiable government.
I was wondering if the Democrats will learn anything from these increasingly hostile town meetings. Ans: Yes. Stick to tightly controlled events packed with Democrat supporters, sycophant media and maybe a few pre-screened independent and RINOS. All these well-informed, independent citizens ruin the photo-ops.
The best one is the Tim Bishop video. He gets eaten alive to a very hostile audience while a hostile crowd chants outside as he tries to weasel his way out of the questions with Pelosi talking points. My kind of people.
what’s truly great about all these “mobs” demonstrating and protesting their supposed representatives is that these are middle class TAXPAYER mobs. they aren’t acorn rent a mob anarchists marching in front of some poor sob’s store or bank because he won’t give reverand jackson’s son an anheuser busch franchise for being racially insensitive. these are working taxpayers taking to the streets and congressional offices because they know this group of communist thugs in office today are destroying this economy. my own relative, who is as liberal as they come said this morning that she was really worried about where the country was going under prez allah (blessings be upon him). hugo chavez, fidel castro, kim jung il, all came into power in a revolution of one form or another, just as marx, lenin, mao, and dozens more, and have all become dictators for life or kings, meaning they pass on the dictator for life to their chosen progeny. they all live like sadam hussein, while their people suffer, and they all use thugs loyal to them to enforce correct actions.
i asked my broker this morning what to buy in this economy, he replied “guns and ammo”.
Eastern KY went the Cap and Trade route this past weekend, with a pro-coal rally. The turnout is reported to measure in the thousands.
“I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore!!”
Errah, was Sphincter trying to sell them on his Magic Bullsheit Theory??!!
I guess Ms. Healy never got the memo from the DNC/ACLU/NAACP ect… that people of color aren’t allowed to participate in the Tea Party Movement. She must be one of those “Race Traitors” like our lovely hostess MM.
That’s my other half’s favorite soundbite from Network; I have to find a copy of the DVD for him so he can play that scene whenever he wants.
As for this whole healthcare reform debate/debacle, I don’t recall offhand who brought this up (I think it was John Stossel), but part of the problem is how we’ve come to expect insurance to pay for routine healthcare instead of it being a safety net for catastrophic health needs (accidents, operations, i.e. real emergencies), just like car insurance or homeowner’s insurance.
Your car insurance doesn’t pay for routine maintenance like oil changes and new tires, nor does homeowner’s insurance pay for new lightbulbs (I wonder if it will pay for the hazmat teams that will be needed to clean up when one of those new government mandated ‘green’ bulbs breaks? But I digress….)
Simple: change the bills title from ‘Healthcare Reform’ to ‘Cash for Granny’ and let’s see how that flies…
So sad, but so true.
If they won’t come to the people them it’s time for the people to go to them. Start flooding their offices locally and in Washington with phone calls, e-mails, faxes, and letters letting them know there will be a price to pay when they stand for re-election if the pass this disaster. If “We, The People” don’t start making noise and letting these idiots know what we expect then it’s our fault when they do this kind of garbage to us! (of course in the case of Franken, you folks in Minnisota are getting what you deserved. Are you doing anything to rid yourself of the judges, state, county, and local officials who conspired to make Al Franken your Senator?)
Kathleen Sebelius is evil thank god she out of my home state sorry that she infecting the u.s. With here evil.
The “demonization” of the taxpayer counterinsurgency has begun. According to a leftie dimwit who called Rush this morning, some MSNBC hack “told her” that the “protestors” at the townhalls are paid insurance company stooges. Rush’s response? Even if that were true, which it isn’t, “it’s about damn time,” given all the leftist “organizations” like ACORN and other rent-a-mobs’ “paid protesting” over the past several years.
I’m telling you, ‘Sebelius’ is an Evil Empire/Sith name.
Her husband is probably Dooku and her dog is Grievous.
Specter is just, um, Salacious Crumb.
The left is afraid we’re going to take our country back. Name calling is what they do when they feel threatened.
carry on…
An insider bit geeky view on what really happens when you try to ‘automate’ medical care delivery into a one-size-fits-none model
http://dmsblog.burtongroup.com/data_management_strategie/2009/04/dear-mr-president-a-data-model-for-my-electronic-health-records-nearly-killed-me.html
Madmonk is right about Austin being liberal and this turnout surprises and seems to me to be a good sign. But Flyover said it right…” Shoot it until it is dead and then empty another magazine into it just to make sure.”
These liberals are like Jason. You shoot him, think he’s dead and then he comes back again. We must never stop fighting these fools. I was at a tea party in Sugar Land Texas and was totally amazed. Then I saw how the whole thing was trivialized and that I was just a right wing extremist. We have to somehow get to the Main Stream Media where they can no longer deny us, even to their sheep. The next tea party should be at the all the MSM news headquarters, local and national, especially the NY Slimes. See if they will deny the thousands who show up at their FRONT DOOR. And to Andrea you ignorant #$%^&…. I know what’s NOT good for me and that’s spending money I don’t have. You obviously don’t. And to Janeane Garofalo(Adolf Hitler in drag)…
I’d rather be a right wing, redneck extremist with common sense than a Harvard grad with absolutely none…
It turns out most of it is Republican astroturfers.
Does it matter, lgm? So, you’re saying their concerns/questions are not legitimate and you don’t have the same concerns?
Actually, what are you saying?
Wrong again, lgm. It’s not the Republicans making a ruckus. It’s the impassioned, grassroots sons and daughters of Liberty making their voices heard. The Republicans are content to play their part in dissolving the U.S. into a one world order oligarchy. What’s the matter, lgm? Are you befuddled that ordinary God fearing, liberty loving, patriotic conservatives have taken a page out of Moveon’s book? The Libtarded nut-roots are not the only ones who know how to organize.
lgm said:
Try and marginalize all you like dolt – like all liberal lick spittles, anything that is not a spontaneous ACORN demonstration can’t be real. Well here is news for you slick, these are people that work for a living, taxed nearly out of existance and sick of you and all the liberal do nothings that suck the lifes blood out of our country.
A link to TPM? Shocking.
However, your conclusion that it “turns out” is an inductive leap. If such a strategy memo exists, it does not prove that these protests are the direct result. You have an issue of correlation versus causation. If you truly believe the causation bit, then you’re giving the republican party more credit for coordination than most of us here do.
Do you have evidence that all the protesters mentioned are astroturfers? Or just this conjecture?
spaceycakes said (#73):
No. I’m saying that Republican astroturf organizations are busing twenty “vocal” reform opponents from Democratic townhall to townhall for the purpose of disrupting them.
The issue is legit. The strategy is insidious.
Salt said (#76):
I gave a direct link to it.
It’s evidence, and better evidence than you have. You can’t prove things to certain people. A century of research in biology can’t “proven” evolution to people trained from childhood to ignore evidence.
They LIKE me, they really, really LIKE me!
Common…give him a break! It’s hard work destroying a country. He needs a rest.
I think lgm is on to us. Clearly, the same 20 or 30 people are showing up at these meetings across the country and just shouting the same slogans about reckless spending and out of control government. If you look closely at the half dozen videos out here, it is the same people in Austin, New York, Philadelphia, etc… They just put on masks so they appear to be different people and pretend to be concerned constituents from the district. The outrage is definitely faked and is not to be confused with spontaneous, heartfelt chanting of “Yes We Can” at Obama rallies.
You just can’t fool those those liberals
You gave a link to TPM, the directness could be debated. This memo is from a group in Fairfield County, Connecticut, isn’t it? Are you here seriously suggesting that this memo is accountable for any and all protests against nationalizing health care?
Evidence of what? That someone (or some group) shared what they thought would be an effective strategy does not mean that every individual opposed to Obama’s brand of health care reform and protests it is doing so as a direct result of this memo.
There’s more of that “certainty” of which you previously complained.
The existence of a memo from a small group does not prove a conspiracy of plants of protesters at every town hall.
I do find it interesting that you would rather debate the “strategy” and not the points raised, though. Always seek to undermine the person first and then the argument, eh?
What are you referencing here? I said nothing about evolution. Strawman.
How about this…”My great-grandchildren haven’t even been born yet. Since they will be paying for this stuff, what’s your dam% hurry?”
That is the strategy of ACORN, not conservatives. Your observation is the height of hypocrisy. But then, that is vintage lgm. Apparently, if they use those tactics, that is fine. But if we do, that is “insidious”. Got it.
oh yes, that ‘mountain’ of evidence that adds up to a molehill. macro-evolution is nothing more than atheism masquerading as science…its a faith…to prove that…list the mutations that led to an eye, in order.
you cannot, nor can anyone else, yet you know for sure an eye evolved..its called faith.
Only when the right does it, er, right?
What kind of strategy would you call…let’s see…waving paint-smeared hands into Condoleezza Rice’s face?
Don’t follow the bait.
Michelle…
Quick question for you please.
First off, BRILLIANT job on The View. Really, I don’t have a strong enough word to praise your appearance. Brava!
Now…regarding the health care bill, I have a serious question for you that I don’t think I’ve seen anyone else suggest as a possibility…and I’d love to get your take on it.
Given the fact that the so-called blue dogs knew they’d get an earful about health care and since congress failed to ram it all the way through prior to the recess, is it possible that the blue dogs gave in and allowed it to go through committee in order to provide themselves with political cover?
I mean they know they’re going to get blasted on it…especially now since as I understand it, we’ll be able to see a final markup (if one isn’t already available). The more people learn about this, the more the sentiment turns against it.
So is it possible they did this so they could say in effect, “See? Our constituents over the recess made it clear that they will vote us out if we vote for the final version of this thing!”
I’m baiting him….
rocketman: I am for stocking up on rotten vegetables to heave at them!
You know, I could care less if Obama managed a chain of 7-11′s well…it still doesn’t qualify him to manage my healthcare. The response from America should be a collective HELL NO as opposed to arguing over merits, etc. Same thing with the congress critters on break…HELL NO!
can we say ut oh:
one note: People aren’t spending money because they DON’T TRUST THIS ADMINISTRATION. Why is that so hard to understand?
It’s beginning to look a lot like Michigan and California.
What is the common denominator with Michigan, California and the U.S., (besides the fact that all of these places are broke)? Hummmmm?
Want to be even more enraged? Look at Doggets claim that the “mob” was an astroturf effort of the Republican party that has strengthened his resolve to pass the legislation.
Good on him for taking that attitude. I hope all elected officials in the Democratic party misunderestimate the pulse of the Nation.
They don’t call them stupid for nothing do they, Red.
Salt said (#86):
The point was not to convince you or enter a debate on evolution. It was to show others that no amount of evidence will convince you, given that you don’t believe in evolution.
A group of Republican operatives follows a Democratic Congressman around his district disrupting all his constituent meetings with their uncontrollable unruly behavior — if it’s not astroturf, the Republican rank and file is more rotten than I thought.
My congress critter has found a new way to avoid a public town hall, do it via conference call whew we can shut you up at the push of a button.
http://courtney.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=140621
lgm: Did you likewise call out the Code Pinkos who disrupted Congressional hearings to make their voices heard? You don’t have to answer, I know the answer…
This was a Townhall meeting where the Congressman was supposed to listen to his constituents. Obviously he wasn’t in a listening mode so they TOLD him, in no uncertain terms, how he should vote. If he disregards their voices now, then he will certainly hear their voices next election day. Or would that too be something common citizens are not allowed to do?
San Fran Nan earlier stated she ‘felt’ that 70% of the American public want Congress to pass their health care package. If she had the intestinal fortitude to hold a Townhall meeting she would be quickly disabused of that idea!
I just got off the phone with the office of my congressman (Inslee). There will be no townhall as such I was informed. Instead there will be a “telephone townhall,” which means as a good subject I will be given a phone number to call on a wednesday evening. If I am lucky and get through, I will be permitted to ask a question, and presumably everyone on the line will be blessed with the answer.
You will be happy to learn the only four-letter words I used were “dear” and “lame” But this is not acceptable. The cowards have to come out or resign.
I’m assuming you’re speaking about some general “you”. The “point” wasn’t a point at all, it was an off-topic strawman. Or perhaps it was some a attempt to attack my character or beliefs on an outside topic in some misguided notion it would add credibility to your previous argument? Both fail as I have never stated here that I do not believe in evolution.
Where does it say that this same specific group of people have followed Specter or Doggett around?
Still not evidence. We know you’d like to believe this is astroturfing so that you could justify to yourself that the number of people distrustful of government run health care is smaller, but you still haven’t proven it.
Are we back to emotional arguments and assumptions that anyone who opposes an Obama objective is automatically a Republican?
To Nail49 # 97
As of a phone call to her office on Friday, San Fran Nan had no Town Hall meetings scheduled in her district.
The rest of the congresspeople should be really angry that she is sending them out to have Town Hall meetings to sell her plan when she is not willing to have even one herself!
And the voters of San Francisco should be angry that she doesn’t think it is necessary to have a meeting for constituents!