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On August 2nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm, opus said:

Michelle while you were doing one show, Chris Mathews played clips from Glenn Beck and you from your Lauer interview and Beck’s on Fox. Mathews and his panel basically accused you and Beck of racist attacks on Obama and that’s just what Obama and the dems have come to accept with him being the first black president. Conservatives making racist attacks.
I wanted to puke.

You have to understand that ad hominem attacks are all they have when the facts overwhelm them.

I think the fact that they were (willingly) suckered by a community activist supercedes their buyers remorse. They are acting like cornered animals, striking out as a last resort.

On August 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm, mojoe said:

I’m surprised your fellow panel members didn’t have their fingers in their ears chanting, “la-la-la-la…”

I think that perfectly describes what Obama supporters/dupes are doing right now as they wallow in disbelief.

On August 2nd, 2009 at 1:58 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

And I’m most concerned with compromise. The d-cats have put forth an impossible health plan, and it is my fear that the re-pubs will gain a handful of concessions and call the result “good”, a “landmark of social progress”, a “model for the world”…

That is why they have such a far reaching and damaging bill: bid high and settle for what you really wanted in the beginning. The Republicans have the opportunity to tank this stinker with the help of the bluedogs, but if they try to compromise, we will be screwed by liberal incrementalism once again.

in a profession where architects like me are literally starving for work..

and now I’m competing with dishwashers and landscapers for crying out loud…

Your comment strikes me as elitist.

…maybe I you should open the want ads write a book.

That Cynthia is just not going to let reality get in the way of her worship of The One.

The guys just seem to be saying what they need to to stay on George’s show.
15 min. of fame indeed.
What a maroon.

MarcoPolo said:

On August 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pm, tommuck said:
If somebody is collecting unemployment for 79 weeks, he or she doesn’t want to work. Everybody I’ve ever known on unemployment says things like “I have 20 more weeks of unemployment, then I’ll look for a job”.

When I was a 20-something, I collected unemployment. I spent more time looking at ways to make it appear I was seeking work than actually seeking work. Part of the reason I am so conservative now is because I know how easy it actually is to not work.

Saturday I attended a get together with 32 other former colleagues – each of us let go at different intervals starting Sept/08, all of us are still unemployed. Each person, and in some cases there were duplicates, was representative of every department of our past employer.

Out of the 33 people attending, representing professionals from CFO to sales to Account management to creative production, we counted:
– over 7500 resumes submitted (rough estimate)
– 26 interviews
– one job offer (he starts in two weeks)

The hardest job of all is finding another job – goes without saying. In this economy, I think companies are waiting to see how the current administration’s programs are going to shake out…e.i: stimulate, and I can’t blame them for thinking that way – I would absolutely do the same. I was let go in March, and I saw the job market for my skill-set dry up around mid May. I know hiring slows during the summer months so I’m hopeful that as summer winds down, companies will get back to focusing on their near-term strategies and long-term goals, and begin to hire those needed to reach those goals.

I will always remain hopeful that the marketplace will become vibrant once again in spite of the current policies and programs that effectively run contrary to work hard, sacrifice, and self-reliance…this is still my USA after all…and I refuse to give up on her.

Cynthia Tucker made the common error of mistaking my simple argument about incentives for some sort of moral judgment.

You failed to mention that before this supposed confusion, she pointed out an obvious flaw in your reasoning. Why does it matter that there is less incentive to get a job when there are no jobs to get?

On August 3rd, 2009 at 12:58 am, lgm said:
MM, I would really like one distortion free post.

Distortion free? With all that static you bring to this post? Listen, lgm…I will type this slowly so you can follow. The posters here are expressing opinion…many cite it as fact (as you often do). You come in with preconceived notions and often block out other attempts to reason with you. If you are here (as a minority viewpoint) wishing to change other peoples’ opinions, then do so respecting that their opinion may be just as valid as you seem to think yours is. The fun is in the nuance and argument over the fine points.

If you approach this website with the attitude (as it appears) to be a fly in the ointment without the ability to reason or argue cohesively, then you do not make a good showing for yourself. There are liberals who come on, chat, make witty remarks, and enjoy what this site has to offer. I enjoy reading these posters because their tone is to offer other viewpoints, not to bash those participating.

Since your image of yourself apparently will not let you comprehend, the source of distortion is coming from your end. Whatever perverse pleasure you derive by posting here probably is an immature extension of your childhood in which you pulled wings off of flies.

Now please try to join the discussion at the adult table.

Dumbo Al Hunt said something about his kids being very anxious to find a job coming out of college. Well, of course. They’d be stupid to start their careers living unnecessarily on unemployment.

Al Hunt proves Michelle’s point! His kids are most likely looking hard for jobs because as former students rather than former employees, they don’t qualify for unemployment benefits!