SEIU and the “persuasion of power;” Update: St. Louis thuggery on tape

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 6, 2009 11:44 PM

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In May, I told you how the Service Employees International Union’s $61 million investment in Barack Obama paid off with cabinet appointments, executive orders, key personnel slots, and legislative goodies.

Now, the SEIU thugs are looking out for The Boss. In Tampa, Florida and St. Louis today, the Purple People turned out to give cover to members of Congress targeted by Tea Party activists and town hall protesters. For the first time, the town hall protests were marked by physical aggression. More on the St. Louis arrests of confrontational Obamacare activists here. (Just like Obama wanted: “In your face.”) This is no coincidence.

I’m excerpting a portion of my Culture of Corruption chapter on the SEIU. This is what you are up against.

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EXCERPTED FROM Chapter 7, “SEIU: Look for the union label,” Culture of Corruption

“The persuasion of power”

Asked about his organizing philosophy, Andy Stern summed it up this way: “[W]e prefer to use the power of persuasion, but if that doesn’t work we use the persuasion of power.”

Stern and his shock troops have bullied companies from private equity firms to Burger King to food management company Aramark, who have resisted SEIU’s attempts to organizer their workers. The Purple People have organized aggressive protests and a “War on Greed” campaign to pound the employers into submission. One of the besieged targets, security provider Wackenhut Services, battled SEIU’s attempts to gain exclusive representation for its employees. The company already ten other unions representing its workers. Initially unbowed by a massive, malicious negative publicity campaign against them, Wackenhut blew the whistle:

The SEIU seeks membership growth through aggressive “corporate campaigns” that have a blunt message to employers, “Let us unionize your workforce or we will destroy your reputation.” This tactic has been used against a number of organizations to include Wal-Mart, Kaiser Permanente, Advocate Health Care, Catholic Healthcare West, and Sutter Health.

SEIU is attempting to coerce The Wackenhut Corporation and WSI to recognize it as the “exclusive” collective bargaining representative throughout Wackenhut. Wackenhut declined to enter into such an agreement. The SEIU responded with a corporate campaign that is intended to damage WSI’s reputation and relationships with our clients. Their campaign tactics include distributing misinformation, distortion and omission of fact through the media, conducting demonstrations in proximity of work sites in an effort to disrupt normal client operations, and aggressively attempting to intimidate or influence clients.

But after filing a racketeering lawsuit against the SEIU, a weary and drained Wackenhut entered into an agreement allowing its employees in nine cities to choose SEIU as its bargaining representative. Behold the “persuasion of power.”

Showing an appalling lack of concern for the well-being of its members, the SEIU upped the ante in a representation battle with the University of Miami in 2006. The union fought tooth and nail against a true, democratic unionizing election for campus janitors using a secure, federally monitored secret ballot. Stern personally escalated the dispute, joined the fasters, and demonized then-university president Donna Shalala (yes, that Donna Shalala of Clinton yore). She lashed back:

We are devastated that the union is risking the health and well-being of our students and the Unicco employees by sanctioning an activity as drastic as a hunger strike. Hunger strikes have never been used in this country to oppose an election. We have urged both parties to continue daily discussions until this issue is resolved. A free election for or against unionization is a federal statutory right.

In the end, the SEIU relented to a federally monitored election. But at what price? Five SEIU members were hospitalized, one with a minor stroke. Wackenhut Corporation chief operating officer Paul Donahue, expressing sympathy for the University of Miami’s plight, saw the big picture:

The bullying, protesting, harassment, contrived events and demands will continue indefinitely because the union has millions of dollars in dues money from hard working janitors and other service workers which can be spent on ruining the reputation of businesses instead of bettering the lives of those workers that contributed.

Indeed, no one has felt the blunt force – and physical danger — of Stern’s “persuasion of power” more than workers themselves.

In Oakland, Stern and his Washington crew imposed a trusteeship on a 150,000-member local that had publicly opposed SEIU strong-arm tactics. The D.C.headquarters (knee deep in ethical mud) accused the local – known as SEIU United Healthcare Workers West (UHW West) – of financial malpractice and misconduct. The local fought back, charging the Beltway union leaders with manufacturing the allegations to retaliate and to distract from Washington mismanagement. The UHW West president, Sal Rosselli, quit the SEIU Executive Board, and formed a new union in February 2009, which declared: “We’re tired of SEIU’s hostile tactics, threatening phone calls, their collusion with employers and governors like Blagojovich, and the corruption of Stern’s appointees like Local 6434 head Tyrone Freeman in Los Angeles, disgraced SEIU Executive Vice President Annelle Grajada, and the appointees who have just taken over what had been our local. We don’t trust them with our contracts, we don’t trust them with our dues—we just don’t trust them.”

In Philadelphia, Stern engineered the hostile takeover of a 150,000-member union representing garment and hospitality workers. Workers United had broken off from the national UNITE HERE union of 450,000 workers. Progressive New York Daily News columnist Juan Gonzalez, citing SEIU’s agreement with Workers United, called Stern “hellbent on using classic corporate raider tactics to bring a huge portion of the U.S. labor movement under his absolute control.” The pact included discounted member dues and legal and financial assistance to aid the breakaway group’s efforts to take control of the Amalgamated Bank, the nation’s only union-owned bank. One union official called the power grab “a breathtaking form of imperialism…”

Know your enemy.

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Gateway Pundit has SEIU thuggery at a town hall meeting on tape. One SEIU member arrested in attack on Tea Party activist.

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  1. #1
    On August 6th, 2009 at 11:49 pm, lewisge said:

    Right out of the Alinsky playbook…

    RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)

    SEIU thugs are trying to get people to turn violent. Be forceful in comments, but do not allow them to goad you into violence.

  2. #2
    On August 6th, 2009 at 11:49 pm, d1carter said:

    And, Michelle reminds us one more time of the background of Andy Stern…

  3. #3
    On August 6th, 2009 at 11:51 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Indeed, no one has felt the blunt force – and physical danger — of Stern’s “persuasion of power” more than workers themselves.

    I think these people will find we are a bit more resistent than your average CEO. Get some.

  4. #4
    On August 6th, 2009 at 11:52 pm, JonB said:

    Shocker. Union folks show up at a meeting and get physically violent with people who oppose their view. Who’d have imagined *that* would ever happen.
    The violence has begun folks, it will only get worse from here.

  5. #5
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:02 am, hawkeye54 said:

    And, Michelle reminds us one more time of the background of Andy Stern…

    defines “Jack Booted Thug” to a T. Stalin would be proud.

  6. #6
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:10 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Let me try this again:

    And, Michelle reminds us one more time of the background of Andy Stern…

    Stalin would be proud of this jack-booted thug.

  7. #7
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:19 am, Little Ma said:

    Oh.my.God.

    Andy Stern is Evil personified.

  8. #8
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:31 am, beenthere said:

    JonB said: The violence has begun folks, it will only get worse from here.

    Indeed, it will. The old America we grew up with is rapidly dying.
    As far as tactics are concerned, for any tea-party or anti-obama protest group the following would seem obvious:

    * Make certain there are plenty of video cameras among the protestors;
    * Use the heavies in the movement (there are always some) as a flying shield against the aggressors. We’re not going to attack, but we’re not going to do some Ghandi number either.
    * Do rehearsals for the inevitable attacks. This is vital, since we are new to this.
    * Be prepared for worst, this includes, first aid and ambulance calls, not to mention lawyers for lawsuits.
    * Think ahead — The enemy will attack with fists. When that doesn’t work, they will use clubs. After that, as they become increasingly desperate, I wouldn’t begin to speculate.
    * No one will help us, least of all the Republican party. The authorities will always be late if they are available at all.

    Remember: violence and terror is what the Obamistas lust for. It is their sacrament, the ultimate sanction of their being. It is not a means to a goal. It is their only goal.

  9. #9
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:36 am, coffee said:

    I’d like to say that I’m shocked by this behavior from our elected representatives, but sadly I’m not. The ever increasing power being concentrated in DC breeds this thuggery; just ask our founding fathers.

  10. #10
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:44 am, Jaded said:

    Michelle I think you know that The One could end this anytime but he chose to ignite the flame instead. This will be his summer of discontent and he will and the Democrats will SUFFER so greatly at the hands of the American people for igniting this fire that I have every reason to believe that 2010 will be a bigger win for R’s then 1994.

    There may be some union thugs bloodying up some of us at these townhalls but this country is damn well worth it!

    Take video cameras and of course your cellphones and take more pictures then you will ever need because these union thug jackboots will be going to jail. They don’t get that the police are our neighbors not our enemies!

  11. #11
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:47 am, Mark Harvey said:

    This is what he wants. This is how The Mob scenes start and this is his Game.

    We need to NOT withdraw.

  12. #12
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am, AmericaFirst said:

    Obama’s world is collapsing. Every Conservative should carry pepper spray while attending any political rally or town hall forum. Touch me and you will fall on your knees and call me messiah instead of Obama. If none is available in your area use an aerosol deodorant. Raid bug bombs work too. If your elected Democrat uses a telephone for a town hall meeting, notify all Conservatives to flood the phone lines with our GOD given 1st Amendment rights. Union thugs don’t scare me. Their time will end when Palin is elected.

  13. #13
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:17 am, AmericaFirst said:

    Drudge is posting the Democrat Sponsored Union Thug Violence Video on Page 1

    Violence Erupts At Rep. Castor’s Town Hall In Tampa

  14. #14
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:20 am, Hangfire said:

    I hope none of the left accidently fall into my pitchfork.

    Still looking for a torch supplier….

  15. #15
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 am, Random63 said:

    Those union thugs better understand we have a “Stand your ground” law here and already 1/2 million FL residents this year getting their concealed carry licenses. I catch those bast@rds attacking my elderly parents while they are “redressing their grievances” with their representatives, there will be repercussions.

    Obama wants to play Chicago gangsta, then we will show him how we deal with punks like him in the south. You respect the elderly, you don’t assault them.

  16. #16
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:10 am, chow said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 am, Random63 said:

    Those union thugs better understand we have a “Stand your ground” law here and already 1/2 million FL residents this year getting their concealed carry licenses. I catch those bast@rds attacking my elderly parents while they are “redressing their grievances” with their representatives, there will be repercussions.

    Obama wants to play Chicago gangsta, then we will show him how we deal with punks like him in the south. You respect the elderly, you don’t assault them.

    Amen Brother

  17. #17
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:11 am, et said:

    Our community organizer has now organized the community against its citizens. But yet not a peep out of his enablers in the MSM condemning our descent towards civil war.

  18. #18
    On August 7th, 2009 at 6:35 am, rplatt said:

    These are nothing but Obama’s Brown Shirts and they have the smell of pond scum. They are the antithesis of everything this country stands for and we will not be intimidated or threatened. Let’s go to the streets.

  19. #19
    On August 7th, 2009 at 6:45 am, rplatt said:

    In this country we have the right to arm ourselves for self protection . . . so do it.

  20. #20
    On August 7th, 2009 at 6:47 am, zorro said:

    Know your enemy.

    Union backed beltway democrats. Enemies of Liberty and Freedom.

  21. #21
    On August 7th, 2009 at 7:16 am, tarpon said:

    Finding out more and more about our racist Joker.

  22. #22
    On August 7th, 2009 at 7:30 am, DagneyT said:

    These thugs are coming to townhall meetings to disrupt them, and try to force us to argue with them. Sen Santorum advises us to allow them to talk, since they do not have facts with which to make their points. Do not let them get you to be violent, because it will give them a “crisis they can’t allow to go to waste”, and use it as an excuse to disarm us!

  23. #23
    On August 7th, 2009 at 7:35 am, blues said:

    As a union member for all of my adult life,it saddens me to say that it is time to”Look for the Union Label”;then buy something else.
    When the unions resort to thuggery,it is time to do everything short of physical violence to stop them.If that means breaking the unions by forcing business closings,so be it.

  24. #24
    On August 7th, 2009 at 7:39 am, zyzzyg said:

    This was bound to happen. No one should be surprised. Yelling and disruptive behaviour can lead to a greater level confrontation.

    No doubt there will be a next step, possibly to the next level.

  25. #25
    On August 7th, 2009 at 7:54 am, radio relay said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 7:39 am, zyzzyg said:

    This was bound to happen. No one should be surprised. Yelling and disruptive behaviour can lead to a greater level confrontation.

    No doubt there will be a next step, possibly to the next level.

    One could only hope … I wonder how many grannies an SEIU thug needs to beat up in order to get a cabinet appointment.

    Conservatives better be able and willing to back up their beliefs, because the left is prepared to bring it to you. They know the media will demonize you and glorify them, but if you truly believe, then you must be willing to pay the physical price and be strong. It’s getting hotter and hotter. Our nation, way of life, and heritage are on the line!!!!

  26. #26
    On August 7th, 2009 at 7:56 am, radio relay said:

    P.S. I’ll be with my fellow Marines at the next rally … got the stomach for us, Obamabots?

  27. #27
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:04 am, jbh45 said:

    At one time in my career I have had to manage 30 Illinois teamsters. What took place in St Louis and Tampa is only a small snippet of violence by union thugs. Its only going to get worse unless authorities (like FBI) step in.

    BO incited this violence with his “community organizer” remarks and should be held accountable.

  28. #28
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:19 am, ajmontana said:

    ObamaHoffa

  29. #29
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:27 am, TigerLady said:

    Russ Carnahan’s town hall meeting turned violent yesterday:
    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story/0470FEB3219207458625760B001142AC?OpenDocument

    If you aren’t scared yet it might be time. Obama and his crew are apparently not afraid of 2010 or later. I’m still waiting to hear the Post Dispatch reporter’s side of the story. Gateway Pundit carried video of union members being allowed into this meeting through a handicap entrance. The “angry mobs” were kept outside. It’s 1939.

  30. #30
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:31 am, iamsaved said:

    These are just more examples of how the liberal Democrats, in particular, the Obama machine use projection to accuse Republicans of doing exactly what it is they do.

    They say in their ad that Repubs are using a playbook to orchestrate these Obamacare protests. The only playbook the Repubs might have is the one where an absent-minded Democrat left his playbook laying around for someone to read.

    I received a letter from the Organizing for America group (not sure how I got on their mailing list). It reads:

    Members of Congress have been home for just a few days, and they’re already facing increased pressure from insurance companies, special interests, and partisan attack organizations that are spending millions to block health insurance reform.

    These groups are using scare tactics and spreading smears about the President’s plan for reform, trying to incite constituents into lashing out at their representatives and disrupting their events.

    The goal of these disruptions is for a few people to get a lot of media attention and hijack the entire public discourse. If they succeed, all Americans — Democrats, Republicans, and Independents — will continue to struggle under the broken status quo.

    It’s up to us to show Congress that those loudly opposing reform are a tiny minority being stirred up by special interests, and that a huge majority strongly supports enacting real health insurance reform in 2009.

    Your representative, [name here], needs to hear that voters are demanding health insurance reform this year. Can you call the local office in Yorktown? Let the person who answers know that you’re a constituent. Then tell them: “Please fight for real health insurance reform in 2009. Americans are suffering under the current system and need change.”

    According to our records, you live in [State's] [Dist no.] congressional district. Please call:

    Rep. [Congressman] at ###-###-####.

    Once you’ve made your call, click here to report it.

    (Not your representative? Click here to look yours up.)

    Calling should only take a few minutes, but it’s a huge help. These local offices serve as the main connection between a member of Congress and voters in the district. And with representatives home on recess, the staff there are in daily contact with your member, keeping them updated on how many calls they receive that are for or against reform.

    Once you’ve called, please tell us. Knowing how many calls are coming in from all around the country will help us better plan our campaign — and help us show that the American people overwhelmingly want health insurance reform this year. Let us know you called:

    http://my.barackobama.com/...

    Thanks,

    Mitch

    Mitch Stewart
    Director
    Organizing for America

    And they accuse common, every day citzens of being organized and “put up” to protesting? Their affiliation and brute force tactics with SEIU, OFA, and ACORN tell the true tale.

  31. #31
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:35 am, Flyoverman said:

    We are out here posting how much we love our country and our Constitution.

    We post Freedom is not Free.

    Our fathers and grandfathers and some of our posters fought on foreign soil, some paying the ultimate price or with wounds and burns.

    Well, now it is our turn. Cowboy up.

    Some red faced thug in a purple shirt does not impress me.

  32. #32
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:42 am, rowsdower said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 7:39 am, zyzzyg said:
    This was bound to happen. No one should be surprised. Yelling and disruptive behaviour can lead to a greater level confrontation.
    No doubt there will be a next step, possibly to the next level.

    So, consonant boy, you’re saying town hall attendees who confront elected officials-engaging in “yelling and disruptive behaviour ” ,in your words ,are responsible for a ” greater level
    of confrontation”-i.e. violence performed by pro-Obama thugs?

  33. #33
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:51 am, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    Town hall meetings should be where our elected officals listen

    not

    where they tell us what we will do

    If they are not comfortable listening to the citizen, they are in the wrong line of work

  34. #34
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am, Misscheryl said:

    There will be blood. Sometimes it’s not a bad thing and sometimes confrontation must happen to evoke a needed change. Gird your loins.

  35. #35
    On August 7th, 2009 at 8:56 am, Mach1Duck said:

    The tactic SEIU and Obama team is using is divide and conquer. Do not get into a physical confrontation, this is exactly what team Obama wants, at that point they can call in the heavies (police, national guard, America Corps, New Black Panther Party, etc.) One can stand and resist without taking up arms. Yelling and shouting a speaker down at a town hall meeting may make one feel good, but it does not accomplish the objective of dismanteling a governmental dictate, honest objective discussion will.

  36. #36
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:02 am, GladzKravtz said:

    If that means breaking the unions by forcing business closings,so be it.

    blues, I’m with you. In the days ahead, I plan to find out what businesses in my area are using SEIU workers and the ones that are not. I plan to ‘encourage’ both accordingly.

  37. #37
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:03 am, Misscheryl said:

    The tactic SEIU and Obama team is using is divide and conquer.

    Exactly, which is right out of Ayers playbook. But Mach1, we don’t get honest, objective discussion.

  38. #38
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:05 am, xler8bmw said:

    No Violence @ Townhalls UNTIL SEIU & ACORN showed up!

    8/6/2009
    Angry Mob of Racist Extremists Beats Black Man at Town Hall Meeting
    Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:52 pm
    I guess the Democrats were right after all. At a town meeting held by a Democrat congressman, a rowdy group of organized and angry thugs showed up to make a point about ObamaCare, and then beat up a man. Race was involved, too: the victim was black — attacked by a man yelling racial slurs.

    It’s every Democrat talking point you’ve read about in the last day or two, come to life in an ugly fashion.

    With one twist. The black victim was a conservative, and the assailants may well have been union thugs:

    Kenneth Gladney, a 38-year-old conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with “Don’t tread on me” printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room of the St. John’s Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was waiting to be treated for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face that he suffered in the attack. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack started.

    “It just seems there’s no freedom of speech without being attacked,” he said.

    Not when you have angry mobs of left-wing extremists around . . .

  39. #39
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:13 am, stillontheroad said:

    The only good thing about this is – now all of these Organizations that have been hiding in the dark are being exposed with a Search Light and people with even a small amount of sence are realizing just what is at stake.

  40. #40
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:14 am, Misscheryl said:

    White House to Democrats: ‘Punch back twice as hard’

    Senior White House adviser David Axelrod (left) and deputy chief of staff Jim Messina told senators to focus on the insured and how they would benefit from �consumer protections

    Top White House aides gave Senate Democrats a recess battle plan on Thursday, arming the lawmakers with tips for avoiding disastrous town hall meetings while showing them polling on popular aspects of the reform effort.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25891.html#ixzz0NVDbhZHb

  41. #41
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:18 am, xler8bmw said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:14 am, Misscheryl said:

    The IRON FIST is coming….I really think this admin is trying to create violence so they can impliment martial law!

  42. #42
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:22 am, Misscheryl said:

    Yes xler8 – and it will happen. We can talk all we want about not yelling and waiting your turn in line to ask questions. Ain’t gonna happen. We just got off the couch and We.Are.Pissed!

  43. #43
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:23 am, Misscheryl said:

    You know what they say:

    “Don’t make me get off this couch!”

  44. #44
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:27 am, Truesoldier said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:18 am, xler8bmw said:
    The IRON FIST is coming….I really think this admin is trying to create violence so they can impliment martial law!

    Or perhaps Directive 10-289.

  45. #45
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am, xler8bmw said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:23 am, Misscheryl said:

    LOL! I have a frig magnet that says “Don’t make me come down there”
    GOD!

  46. #46
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am, Truesoldier said:

    The purpose of Directive 10-289 is to arrest the country’s economic decline by freezing the economy in its current state. The directive makes it illegal for workers to leave their current jobs and prevents businessmen from closing their doors. It forbids the introduction of inventions or new products, and it requires companies to produce an amount of annual goods identical to the amount produced the previous year. All wages, prices, profits, and dividends are frozen, and every individual is obligated to spend as much as he did in the previous year. The directive also sets up a Unification Board to hear all disagreements arising from the new laws. The Unification Board’s decisions on any issues that surface will be final.

  47. #47
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am, Paul Revere said:

    I just find it fascinating and amazing that the democrat party is imploding after finally attaining their goal of complete control of both chambers and the presidency.

    (I think it should be obvious to even a casual observe that the democrat party is desperate at this point, and is indeed on the brink of extinction…and it’s all happening right before our very eyes!)

  48. #48
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:36 am, Truesoldier said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am, Paul Revere said:
    I just find it fascinating and amazing that the democrat party is imploding after finally attaining their goal of complete control of both chambers and the presidency.

    I think the problem is that they gained control by pretending they were middle of the road or a bit right of center (in the case of the blue dogs) and when they one they convinced themselves that meant the country was really as radically liberal as they really are.

    Then reality came knockin’ and meant business.

  49. #49
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:36 am, Misscheryl said:

    Dems were arrested in St. Louis – Just goes to show, you can’t take a democrat anywhere…

  50. #50
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:38 am, katablog said:

    I doubt that I have the words to describe just how angry I am over this latest attempt to demonize the people who dare to disagree with the Won and his Chicago thugs.

    I’ve written about 5 blogs in the last 24 hours to try to quell my anger – but it’s not going away.

    Won and his Chicago thugs KNOW that the majority of Americans oppose government controlled health care. So what do they do? LIE! Try to convince Americans that protesters are manufactured, paid, special interest groups and kooks.

    I guess it only goes to prove that Won believes totally in his ability to get people to blindly follow and ignore their lying eyes and ears.

  51. #51
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:41 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    The SEIU are criminals. Plain and simple. My recommendation is to carry large pull ties and if confronted by violent SIEU thugs, hog tie them, then move on. It’s for their own good.

  52. #52
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:42 am, Socky said:
  53. #53
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:43 am, Flyoverman said:

    I really think this admin is trying to create violence so they can impliment martial law!

    Stop, take a momment and think about how that could be practically and logistically possible.

    They can’t administer Cash for Clunkers. There are not enough people at all levels of govemnment to enforce Directive 10-289.

    I have a recommendation on what we need to do with our “spare time.” The Democrats own the House and Senate, so in theory NONE of this protest could stop them from passing Healthcare.

    The fight is not over Healthcare, but re-election survival. That’s their fear. We have to make sure public opinion stays on our side and MORE IMPORTANTLY it is not going to do us any good to make these Democrat politicians and RINO’s vulnerable and then have no qualified, articulate, representative candidates to challenge them in 2010.

    My fear is we’ll get to the election with carboard cutouts as candidates. If you want to thwart Obama, then let’s start finding and promoting candidates to run in our districts.

    Don’t focus on what they may do to us, focus on what we are going to do to them.

  54. #54
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:44 am, xler8bmw said:

    Posting AGAIN!

    Just Remember This!

    “During the American Revolution 70% of the citizens were loyal to the King or apathetic. The other 30% founded a Nation.”

  55. #55
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:44 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Al Swearengen: Pain or damage don’t end the world. Or despair or @#$%ing beatings. The world ends when you’re dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man… and give some back.

  56. #56
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:45 am, Misscheryl said:

    I’ve tried to read this link on Drudge “Obama doesn’t want the people who created the mess to do a lot of talking..he wants them to get out of the way so he can clean it up,” but the server is too busy…imagine that.

  57. #57
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:49 am, Socky said:

    Democrat Union Thugs assault protesters; six arrested.

    Kenneth Gladney, a 38-year-old conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with “Don’t tread on me” printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room of the St. John’s Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was waiting to be treated for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face that he suffered in the attack. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack started.

  58. #58
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:49 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Al Swearengen: Sometimes I wish we could just hit ‘em over the head, rob ‘em, and throw their bodies in the creek.
    Cy Tolliver: But that would be wrong.

  59. #59
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:51 am, joannmandolin said:

    A few years ago, In St Louis, these SEIU
    grocery checkers/bag boys
    wanted our support during their strike against grocery stores Schnuk’s/Shop N Save/Dierberg’s.

    I’m headed to Walmart; that’s where I’ll get my groceries from now on, thanks to these thugs!

    Obama’s Goon Squads/Bag Boys

    Didn’t see that coming!

  60. #60
    On August 7th, 2009 at 9:55 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Francis Wolcott: I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official.

  61. #61
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:00 am, sonofdy said:

    This is starting to get more and more unreal.

    Shades of Germany 1933. Political enemies are beaten and supressed.

  62. #62
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:04 am, Misscheryl said:

    OT – are any of those anti-war protestors paying attention to Iraq and Afghanistan? Things aren’t looking too good over there. Iraq reports 37 killed in a suicide bomb attack. Obama must send more troops. By way, didn’t Obama say the war on terror is over. So, what’s up?

  63. #63
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:06 am, xler8bmw said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:00 am, sonofdy said:

    Well now we know why Obami wouldn’t decry Iran protest!

  64. #64
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:21 am, fmfnavydoc said:

    Conservatives need to draw the line with elected officials that are following the way of Obama – confront them is a “civil” manner, videotape these “town hall” events and let the “thug” throw the first punch. Go viral with the videos – the MSM will not put them out there for all to see, but people like Michelle will. Support those that are true representatives of conservative values in any manner possible – help them get elected to local, state and national office.

    The line has been drawn in the sand – Obama and his minions do not want dissension, they want obedience from all. Our country was founded by men that made a stand for their freedom – even at the expense of “their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor”. We need to stand up again for those values that the Founding Fathers believed in, before it is too late.

  65. #65
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:21 am, rightwingmom said:

    We must have more video cameras at these events to document the atrocities and defend the innocent!

  66. #66
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:22 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    I don’t know about you guys but this will make it much easier to bring more friends with me at the next Tea Party.

    Also, please note that the newspapers and local news outlets are reporting accurately that the violence is coming from the new Democratic party pushback. The union thugs and soon, ACORN. We are up to our ears in both here in LA.

    By they way, which American city is second behind Detroit in manufacturing jobs lost? No, not Elkhart, Indiana. No, not Gary, Indiana. It’s Los Angeles where the unemployment rate is around 20% (depends on which city official you believe) and the goverment has not fired a single worker.

  67. #67
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:35 am, nail49 said:

    I’ve tried to read this link on Drudge… …but the server is too busy…imagine that.

    Misscheryl: I had the same problem. I wanted to see just how Obama doesn’t want the people who created the mess to do a lot of talking…” was going to work. You just can’t stop Reid, Pelosi, Dowd, Frank, Rangle, Kerry, etc, etc, from exercising their collective pie-holes!

    Did you notice the look on his face in the photo that accompanied this on Drudge? Utter exasperation! “OMG, what AM I going to do?!?!?!”

  68. #68
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:44 am, spaceycakes said:

    From Carnahan:

    Instead of participating in a civil debate, they have mobilized with special interests in Washington who have lined their pockets by overcharging Americans

    I wanna see his evidence.

  69. #69
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:45 am, sassy745 said:

    I just sent email to the big 0 congratulating him on his success. Telling him, he, as President, has succeeded in turning US citizens against US citizens. How proud he must be. Such a sad day. May God have mercy on our country.

  70. #70
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:47 am, RobM1981 said:

    Is there any website that shows where congressional town-halls or other “speaking venues” for congressmen are happening?

    It hasn’t been that long since I suited up. I’m more than happy to be in the ranks when the SEIU thugs get sharp elbows.

    Stand your ground.
    Don’t fire unless fired upon.
    But if they mean to have war let it begin HERE.

    And btw, this is probably “fishy” of me.

  71. #71
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:50 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Meanwhile, Peggy Noonan is out there twisting these events into a rejection of Democrats while ignoring that we’re not very happy about the Assistant Democrats either. By falling for these subtle twisted arguments is how we get fooled into holding our noses for voting for RINOS. Pay attention.

  72. #72
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:54 am, Salt said:

    [Sen. Cantor (D)] said the protesters who have been appearing at town hall forums on health care “would have been protesting Medicare. … They would never have accepted Social Security.

    link

    It’s amazing just how ignorant a Senator can be.

  73. #73
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:56 am, Misscheryl said:

    nail49 said:

    Truth be told, obama (small case intentional) and his cronies are the best thing that has happened to conservatives and I mean that in a good way.

  74. #74
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:58 am, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:44 am, spaceycakes said:

    I wanna see his evidence.

    Many of the articles I’ve read use the same “evidence” which is essentially: “Robert Gibbs told us it was true.

  75. #75
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am, Tazed and Confused said:

    Obama punks strike again.

    We need to rid ourselves of the trash occupying the White House. The stench is unbearable. It now covers the entire hemisphere.

  76. #76
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    Looks like the anti-czar mobs in Russia as Lenin, Trotski, and Stalin took over.
    ***
    Or Adolph Hitler’s brown shirts and SA as he took over Germany and brought on WW2 and the Holocaust.
    ***
    Or Romania when the communist coal miner union members used pipes to beat up those protesting the failed government.
    ***
    Deja Vu all over again–it looks like the modern version of Jimmy Hoffa’s teamsters are back–and working for the same “democratic” / liberal / socialist / statist / marxist / communist groups.
    ***
    Hope and Change you can(“t) believe in. Stand up to them and vote them out in 2010.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  77. #77
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:09 am, rightwingmom said:

    ACORN taking the Census…

    SEIU manning the voting polls for 2010…

    New Black Panthers as Obama’s National Security Force…

    Think it CAN’T happen? Just call me paranoid.

    I never thought our “President” (quotes meant as sarc) would encourage Americans to snitch on Americans!

    Who thinks SEIU purple shirts will disappear and they’ll blend in w/ true Patriots to create more trouble?

  78. #78
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:11 am, JonB said:

    Anyone taking bets on how long it will be before Eric Holder pardons the Union jack@sses that are guilty of the assault?

  79. #79
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:18 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    These thugs are PAID professional agitators, paid by our tax dollars.

    GOVERNMENT WORKERS UNIONS SHOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. So should government subsidies for “community activist” groups like ACORN.

    My girlfriend is a teacher in LAUSD and she assures me that most teachers are not part of this. They feel like they are being used and screwed by the pols and bureaucrats.

  80. #80
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:20 am, JonB said:

    If I recall correctly, some sort of legislation was passed that gives Obama the power to shut down various networks if it is in the interest of “national security”.
    Conservatives are coordinating primarily through blogs, and info is being dispersed through blogs and you tube videos. As this heats up, expect communications to be cut off.
    Get cellphone numbers and e-mails of the people you trust. Get your own “network” going so that people can remain in touch and organized even without the internet.

  81. #81
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:22 am, fairyfoose said:

    Miss Cheryl, I went to lucianne.com and watched the video link and then read the article in the St Loius Post Dispatch. One of their reporters was picked up/one of the 6 arrested (for interference). (Lucianne Goldberg is Jonah Goldberg’s of Nat’l Review Fame, Mom.)

    I was hoping the violence wouldn’t come; that our President wouldn’t stoop to this new low. I was wrong.

    Next Saturday’s Rally (8/15)at Steven’s Creek Blvd and San Tomas Expressway in San Jose will be even bigger now, I’ll wager.

    Congratulations, Mr. President. You have now solidified the American Public AGAINST you and your Policies. Well done. You have no idea the stubborness you are about to come in contact with.

    Father, let those who are thugs feel your wrath and protect average Americans from these goons thuggery. AND harden our resolve against losing our Freedoms for the coming campaign.

  82. #82
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am, Mister P said:

    Can anyone say CONSPIRACY!!!!!

    Obama’s goal is to generate mob violence so he can declare marshall law and become like Chavez a dictator.

  83. #83
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am, James Felix said:

    I just find it fascinating and amazing that the democrat party is imploding after finally attaining their goal of complete control of both chambers and the presidency.

    Fascinating, and entirely predictable.

    We’ve known for decades now that the Democrats’ true agenda is deeply unpopular with the vast majority of voters. When they didn’t have the Presidency and had only a slim (or no) majority in Congress they were good at concealing that agenda.

    Having badly misinterpreted the 2008 election as an endorsement of their statist desires they didn’t just let the mask slip, they tore the mask off and threw it out the window. Now that normal people are getting a good look at what these parasites want they are all too predictably fighting back.

  84. #84
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am, spaceycakes said:

    Speaking of ‘thugs’, can Ragspierre or any other advocate on this forum tell me what I do NOT have to answer on a census? Apparently they are threatening folks with fines…

  85. #85
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:29 am, sonofdy said:
  86. #86
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:34 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Ayers – Wright, the obvious 2. It was right in front of Obama supporters’ faces and they chose not to believe. (Sotomayor’s record/words were right in front of our faces too….now confirmed.)

    Gotta get in front of this!

  87. #87
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:36 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    One of my cousins emailed me to alert me to a picture on foxnews showing another two of my cousins, (one of them a cancer survivor who’s still on chemo and spent his life savings for treatment but knows that such treatments won’t likley even exist under thug Obama’s plan), at the Tampa meeting and getting pushed around by union thugs.

    It really makes me VERY angry to see that! If violence is what THUG Obama wants – THEN I’M READY, BRING IT ON!

  88. #88
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:41 am, cheapseat said:

    it was seiu thugs attacking and intimidating the people at rep carnahan’s meeting last night, with their purple shirts, and it was seiu thugs being arrested for assault and disorderly conduct. this never happened until prez allah (bbuh) called out the gubmint union agitprop group. chicago has come to st louis, and a town near you.

  89. #89
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:43 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am, spaceycakes said:
    Speaking of ‘thugs’, can Ragspierre or any other advocate on this forum tell me what I do NOT have to answer on a census? Apparently they are threatening folks with fines…

    When it comes to answering census questions, I like this response from the DEADWOOD series:
    “F$%# yourself, and don’t feel entitled!”

  90. #90
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:46 am, spaceycakes said:

    Thanks, Rogue. I didn’t want to go Lector on their asses.

  91. #91
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am, JonB said:

    I’m along with spaceycakes. Would like information on what questions have to be answered and what we can mock them for.

  92. #92
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Pasadena Phil said: GOVERNMENT WORKERS UNIONS SHOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    BIG DITTO! Government worker unions are nothing but a form of shadow goverment. Government takes OUR tax money at the point of a gun, (try not paying and a gun will be pointed at you eventually…), and then the unions extort whatever they can get away with. We have ZERO elected representation about that.

  93. #93
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:49 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:46 am, spaceycakes said:
    Thanks, Rogue. I didn’t want to go Lector on their asses.

    With some fava beans and a nice Chianti! (fufufufufu)
    That works also!

  94. #94
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:51 am, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:29 am, sonofdy said:

    The president being honest

    Obama:

    “But I don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don’t mind cleaning up after them, but don’t do a lot of talking.”

    That’s funny. That’s precisely how I feel about the government and our economy.

  95. #95
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, TigerLady said:

    I read somewhere this morning that the dems said “if they bring a knife, we’ll bring a gun”. Can anyone provide a link to that quote?

  96. #96
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, groundhunter said:

    Obama has turned this into a Union fight. He has turned peacefull protest into violent confrontation. This from the sanctity of the Oval office. We need to make him own that stand.

    Obama stand down now. You can’t win this. We have fought too many wars to give up our freedom without standing firm for our right to oppose your marxist view of the world.

    You can bloody us but we will not retreat. Our voices will be heard. You will sacntion clubs while we will champion the truth. Truth will win the day.

    President Obama you have triggered something viceral and deep within us. We are still Americans with a deep pride in who we are and what we have achieved. You have chosen the bloody way. We do not fear your thuggery. We will continue to peacefully stand. Bring on the clubs and let the blood flow to your shame and disgrace.

    Stand down now Mr. President Obama. This is one fight the American people will not and can not loose. We know it in our guts. Withdraw from your marxist agenda now. Step away from cap and trade, drop you health care plan. It is over.

    You have gone too far, you have stepped over the invisible line of decency. You have called upon the dark forces of violence to get your way. Evil will not prevail in this country. What you have unleashed will in the end destroy you and your party. Evil always destroys those who use it. Step back now before it is too late.

  97. #97
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pm, d1carter said:

    The purple shirts are really the brown shirts…

  98. #98
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, JonB said:

    I disagree groundhunter. I think Obama should step things up, push to hard, go to far. The end result will be the total annihilation of him and his party, many of whom will swing from lamp posts as they deserve.
    These people are bent on the destruction of America at any cost, and if merely turned around, and forced to stand down now, they will simply re-organize and come back again. Their minds cannot be changed, they cannot be reasoned with.

  99. #99
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:24 pm, fairyfoose said:

    Right on, Right on, Right On, Ground Hunter. You said it better than I did.

  100. #100
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pm, rightisright said:

    The violence has begun folks, it will only get worse from here.

    Exactly as I’ve been saying ever since this unAmerican community organizer bamboozled enough of the fence sitters to vote for him.

    How’s all the Hope(hate) ‘n Change(crap) working out for you so-called moderate dems and middle of the roaders now? You have numbers for your patents when the lines start to receive their cyanide pill, better hurry, or they’ll have to wait longer for their end of life finale.?

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