“I am the mob”
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From the Denver story:
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If this is true, why didn’t Pelosi and Reid just schedule a vote and be done with it??? Hmmmmm??? After all, they control absolutely both houses of Congress (or DO they???)
I admit it, I can’t resist. Sometimes it’s just too easy!
While much of it is informed opinion, as much as possible we try to deal in facts. You, lgm, and the rest of the leftists here deal in lies and distortions. Of course you can’t help it, because your true beliefs cannot be sustained by facts, history, or reasoned argument. Of course, there are some on the conservative side who also argue from emotion rather than fact, but they tend to be a minority. In general, people don’t try to cover the entire factual basis for their arguments in every post, because it’s redundant and unnecessary except to inform such as yourself who apparently haven’t read the underlying material and don’t understand the issues.
This is the second or third time you’ve tried this meme.
Tell me this, lgm. How would you feel about a Federal mandate that required that every five years, people had to be counseled to vote Republican. Any problem with that? Any chance that people would be influenced in the conservative direction?
You are, as proven over and again, a voluntary idiot.
There’s the deal. Frankly, being a big, tough old lawyer, I will volunteer to go to any area town hall to act as security for any conservatives there.
If my physical self doesn’t make them think about an attack on the “mob”, my lawyer status will.
Sorry, I would love to address this but I’m busy trying to find a hiding place for my grandma. This factually-based congress-lady tells me Obama is going to kill her. We were going to send her to Canada but, well… you know.
I never thought I would say this to a lawyer, Rags, but…I think I love you.
Ha!! Now that’s better, Huggy! Some humor. We can appreciate that. Unlike the liberals who get all, “I’m offended”, etc., if you say something truly funny, we will laugh.
Back atcha, Scrappy!
I’ve got 6′3, and 232lbs of bulk on me so I’m not exactly small either. That’s not the point for me. It’s that I tend to not want to be bothered, period. Just being honest. So it takes a lot to get me up and moving, but this has become one of those times for me.
It’s just getting crazy!
That’s me, too, Major. I don’t like crowds…partly because I’ve seen people do stupid things that could have gotten a lot of people hurt in a crowd, and I don’t control idiots.
I also like my own company just fine, and I really hate being lied to. So, all things being equal, the last place you’d normally find me is at politician’s bloviation-fest.
But this…
I’m ready to take to the streets of DC if we need to, in order to keep this monstrosity at bay.
Here is a poem that has kept me going through the years and it seems to fit our interesting times right now.
Invictus
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find me, unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.
William Ernest Henley
Major and Rags, your personalities are similar to mine. I don’t like crowds and it takes a lot to get me motivated. I like my own company better than anyone else does and I hate liars but I’m only 4′11″
It’s ok MissCheryl, you can sit on our shoulders and watch our backs!
I’m not wishing for violence on anyone, but I’m not going to sit by at a town hall while people are victimized. They really need to get the police involved early and the news crews need to be there to put the fear of being further “caught on tape” to the perpetrators.
MissCheryl,
Err..umm nothing untoward meant by that last post! Doh!
Major – I’ll be happy to watch yer back!
I dont’ want violence either, but I’m afraid it’s here and it’s now. You take care of yourself.
Misscheryl–I hope you did what I did, and married a tall man!
mrcakes is 6′6″ (I’m only 5′3″)
LOL
I did marry a big man spacey, in stature and his nature as well.
The nameless ObamaCare support who assualted the woman with the anti-obamacare sign needed a beat down by that very same sign she destroyed.
Keep your grubby hands off the signs that represent our free speech.
That’s the ticket! My wife is 5′7.
nail49 said (#73):
Medicare has less overhead and is more efficient than private insurance. The VA system delivers health care far more efficiently than the private sector. Google it.
James Felix said (#76):
It’s funding for councilors to help people write living wills and to advise them about the hospice care.
If people would say this, which is the honest statement, it would have more traction than the distortions of it.
Most people who are aware of their right to refuse “heroic measures” at the end of life exercise that right. It doesn’t seem like a bad thing to make sure everyone is aware of their rights and how to exercise them.
Member-VRWC said (#81):
All health care reform bills now circulating rely entirely on the private sector for care. Even the ones that have a “public option” for insurance also allow private sector insurance. You feel that the private sector will pull out of the insurance business because of government competition, but that’s not what happened with Medicare, according to you.
Ragspierre said (#90):
If the counseling were voluntary (the mandate is to providers to offer it, not on consumers to use it), and if people were genuinely unaware of the possibility of voting Republican, it would be fine.
Generic, vague, baseless statements.
It’s just amazing that you can even pretend to believe that, much less begin to believe anyone here would believe it.
But, as I’ve proven over and over, you are never bashful about lying.
Rags, Misscheryl, spaceycakes and others roughly affiliated with the rogue “Don’t Taze Me Bro’: thread:
It sounds like Chaps is going to lose his kitty.
The primary complaints against Medicare are the amount of paperwork and bureaucracy involved, slow payment, and low payment for services rendered. More doctors and medical facilities are refusing Medicare all the time, to the point where it is difficult to actually find a doctor who will take it, at least own here. I haven’t found one, myself, and have to get my care 40 miles away at a military medical facility – when I can get an appointment.
This leaves me speechless (almost). Obviously you’ve missed all of the stories about misdiagnoses, botched operations, moldy facilities, extended waits for care, etc.
No, what worries people is the establishment (by the house bill) of a bureaucracy which will determine if it is worth while allowing a person to have a particular form of care, whether a transplant, medication, whatever, or whether it will be denied due to age or other factors. “End of life counselling” in this context doesn’t simply mean encouraging someone to complete a DNR request, it means preparing someone for bureaucratic denial of life-sustaining care. The concerns of the elderly are further amplified and grounded in the fact that Obama has endorsed this policy.
The first two sentences are mutually exclusive – you can’t even lie to yourself convincingly. In point of fact, the House bill provides that you can keep your current private plan only as long as you are with your current employer. You are not allowed to change private plans, nor can you retain it from one employer to the next. If you lose employment, you must be enrolled in the government option. Given that 1.) The government will set the levels of care for all plans, public and private and will also establish premium levels, it will not be difficult for a (non-profit) public plan to undercut private plans (which must turn a profit to exist), thereby forcing them out of business. Not addressed by the current discussion is the fact that the government will, as a result of the house plan, have access to all of your financial records, and will have the ability to directly, without your permission, remove funds from your accounts to cover your care.
All in all, one of your weaker efforts.
He knows all that txvet2. He just lies to convince others its not true. He thinks that helps his political cause.
Like most liberals, they are schooled in the by any means neccesary doctrine, meaning that it is ok to lie, cheat and steal to get their way. The greater good allows it. Nice people huh?
I *heart* the mob.
It isn’t for him. You can’t leave these trolls unrebutted. There may be people out there that read his stuff and think it sound reasonable, because, hey, the government wouldn’t really want to let you die, would they?
Jonah Goldberg, Liberal Fascism, pg 158
txvet2 said (#111):
That happens already. People who are too old don’t get hip replacements. Doctors take quality of life judgments. Insurance companies make them. It is not possible, or even desirable, to have unlimited health care.
No. Private provider — self employed doctor. Government insurance — Doctor sends bills to a government agency. That’s how medicare works.
This is wrong. A private person can enroll with any insurance provider, public or private.
Raggie (#115): That seems to be the MM philosophy. Conservatives shouting down liberals are speaking their minds. Liberals shouting down conservatives are thugs.
Why would the Representative do that his messiah the golden boy didnt.
LGM, your a fool if you think the government can run health care any better than it is. Funny how you think that these government workers somehow are more capable of doing things better than private parties. Hey if that what you want go for it, give the government all your cash and choice’s just leave me and all the others with half a brain out of it we DONT WANT YOUR DAMN gorvernment run anything got it! Hope you enjoy your DMV health plan.
Americans…of both parties…who have read the bill, confronting the people with the power to pass it.
You know, lgm…speaking truth to power?
Asking questions. Putting out information. Reacting to being told lies to our faces. Yep. We’re mad, and you have not begun to see the wrath that is coming down.
Your side is lying. You are lying. Put up the substantiation for the lying CongressCretin that says he has had death threats reported on Think(?)Progress(?). I’ve looked, and can’t find it. I call BS on you and your whole cadre, comrade.
Your whole world is a Potemkin Village, and I would be delighted to burn it down.
There are tiny kernels of truth mixed in with all your lies, lgm.
There is no unlimited good in any economy. Hence, economics is the study of the allocation of scarce resources that have alternative uses.
People who are old are not denied a hip replacement by their doctors. That is is lie.
People who are unlikely to tolerate a surgical procedure are not operated on by doctors.
And, now at least, they can get a second or third or forth opinion. A doctor who is making a quality of life judgment is committing malpractice. Informed consent is their job, not making judgments about the quality of life of their patients. They can express an opinion, but best not be deciding what is not theirs to decide.
Please, though, put up some more of your KosSack talking points. They are virtually all lies, and I’d love to expose them and you.
When I read posts by LGM and can see clearly that he is a drone, my reaction is like Jeff Foxworthy’s comedy routine about the father who says “let the 900 pound television fall on my kid, it will teach him to stay away from it” I want so badly for LGM to have to live in the socialist world he is so eager to embrace but common sense tells me that I’m going to have to suffer the weight of the television, too.
We can never know how precious something is until we lose it. LGM, keep telling yourself that Obama’s healthcare system is going to take care of you. When you become one of the statistics, it will be too late.
Everyday in this country doctors make the decision to not do certain procedures on certain patients. Not because of the good of the people but because the outcome for that patient dictates the care. You can’t be so blind to believe that rationing will not be at the heart of obamacare. (not capitalized intentionally). What makes you think you will be in the “in” group? Because you’re a liberal? Didn’t you learn anything about your history in Germany?
And that, friends, is quintessentially fascist. Action. Action. Action, and DO NOT bother me with classical liberal notions of individual liberty and constitutional democracy. I’m here to show you a New Order.
If you resist, I’ll break your legs.
Or have my SEIU thugs do it for me.
Ref lgm Post 116:
“This is wrong. A private person can enroll with any insurance provider, public or private.”
My employer is reviewing dropping medical insurance. Why? because if it comes to pass and there is a “government option” then why should the company pay the lug for carrying medical insurance? There is no incentive to do so.
So, while lgm and Dear Leader say people can keep their insurance, they know very well that in a short time there will be NO private health insurance.
Oh, and reference VA medical care, lgm, it is obvious you never were under their tender care, otherwise you would never speak highly of them.
With the war that has been going on, and the brave men serving and hurting, the VA has been forced to improve because of the outrage of the people when they discovered the pitiful facilities, uncaring GS-6 dolts that can’t read and holler at patients in waiting rooms, lack of HIPA rights, no choice in doctors for care continuity, few and far between facilities, etc. . . .I choose private health care as my right, but because of the Dear Leaders plan, my private option will quickly disappear.
And, for another great model of government run health care, check out health care provided on Indian Reservations.
I should scare you to death.
Yeah, well, I think we all know that any government social program is underestimated on the “selling it” end, and usually by a multiple of five.
Ragspierre said (#120):
You’re right. Doctors recommend against, but insurance companies deny. Some of the health care reform bills floating around would replace the insurance company bureaucrat with a government bureaucrat making that call. The difference is that the insurance company is interested only in its own profit.
No. That is another raft of stupid, and transparent lies.
Insurance companies do not make “quality of life” decisions. They make contract decisions. They make “likely benefit” decisions.
Insurance companies, like all market enterprises, do not make a profit by pissing people off wholesale. You get to do that once. They make a profit by pleasing people, and offing them products they willing buy.
An insurance company bureaucrat and a government bureaucrat are not interchangeable units. They have, and respond to, completely different incentives, and they have completely different sets of consequences they face when they are in the wrong.
You think profit is evil. I think it is a wonderful prod to production and efficiency. You are delusional. I am happy to show you centuries of proof that I am rational.
If grandma needs a hip replacement, and Octopus Insurance Co. will not pay for it, grandma has several options, including fighting the insurance company (I do that), firing the insurance company, or doing nothing relative to the insurance company (since they still will provide her other care). She still, in each case, has the option of getting her hip replacement.
None of those would be options if Oba-mao gets his way.
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/lb0810cd20090807070718.jpg
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/08/inconvenient-truth-about-death-panel.html
If any of you really doubt the trajectory Oba-mao wants to take, read that piece.
lgm, you may fool yourself. You might possibly even fool others.
You won’t fool anyone here, nor anyone else with a brain.
I MAY accept government supplied health care on one condition:
ALL government employees MUST use the government supplied insurance.
NO EXCEPTIONS!!
This includes congress especially!
If they want additional insurance coverage they must pay for it themselves.
Why is no one screaming that congress must use the same plan as they are offering the rest of us?