“I am the mob”

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 7, 2009 10:54 AM

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Meanwhile…

*Eyewitness Account of Union Thugs Beating Black Conservative At Last Night’s Town Hall Meeting of Congressman Carnahan in St. Louis

*A supporter of health care reform, left, who did not want to give her name, pushes forward to rip a sign out of Kris McLay’s hands outside the Stout Street Clintic visited by Nancy Pelosi. (THE DENVER POST | RJ SANGOSTI)

*Democrat treasurer in Tampa slaps Tea Party activist

*More thuggery in Tampa

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  1. #1
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:57 am, Misscheryl said:

    You just can’t take dems anywhere…

  2. #2
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am, et said:

    Looks like Mel Martinez is resigning his senate seat. I guess he couldn’t that the heat. Is a position in the Obama administration next?

  3. #3
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am, cheapseat said:

    ahhh, the party of peace, inclusiveness and tolerance. now that the war on terror is officially over, the religion of peace and tolerance can resume bombings and beheadings, and the party of peace, love, and harmony can get back to assault and battery with impunity.

  4. #4
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am, rplatt said:

    We need to recruit guards for our seniors when attend these meeting so Obama’s goons can’t beat the hell out of them. Isn’t this a wonderful country?

  5. #5
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:02 am, Doug Powers said:

    Tell any lib you can find that they should go to a townhall meeting with you… not to counter-protest, but to see what their doctor’s waiting room is going to be like post-Obamacare — except their doctor’s waiting room will have more people in it and they’ll be much angrier.

  6. #6
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:16 am, DBNinKY said:

    I thought “change” was promised at the end of an open hand, not a closed fist. Oh well, I didn’t vote for them anyway so what do I know -

  7. #7
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:20 am, JohnnyD said:

    Very cool link.

    I guess I can scratch out John Galt and replace it with MOB!

  8. #8
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:21 am, englishqueen01 said:

    One has to wonder if the beating victim would be cared for under Obamacare, or if political affiliation will count against you when receiving treatment.

    Seeing as it counts against you when speaking out against your government.

  9. #9
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:21 am, tomg51 said:

    We’re Mob-ilized

  10. #10
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:22 am, lgm said:

    I watched the Tampa video. It looks like the anti-reform people started chanting to disrupt the meeting, which brought others over to ask them to stop. Of course tempers were high as the demonstrators made it impossible for the meeting to continue.

    I doubt whether the first post is accurate — there are no confirmations.

  11. #11
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am, Ragspierre said:

    We need to recruit guards for our seniors when attend these meeting so Obama’s goons can’t beat the hell out of them. Isn’t this a wonderful country?

    I think it is time to recalibrate on town hall meetings.

    The only ones it is going to make sense to try to attend are legitimate, open meetings in districts where the rep is not already in the tank. Most of the “tanked” Demoncrats are NOT going to bother with any meeting.

    For these sham meetings larded with union leg-breakers, we have to continue to try to get in. That poses some level of actual physical risk to conservatives or anti-ObamaCare people.
    But we can’t just back down.

    It would make sense to show up outside of a meeting that was a sham, just to put pressure on and “bear witness”.

    But mostly, the town hall meetings have already returned their greatest benefit. The nation has seen them, and we’ve seen the BIG BRO reaction to them.

    Now, theater is our best option, where the CongressChicken or Senator is too gutless to face constitutes.

    Just wire around them, and get the video out into the internet.

  12. #12
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I doubt whether the first post is accurate — there are no confirmations.

    There’s a shocker!

    If there were “confirmations” you’d find a way to disprove those as well. And I don’t mean disprove in the normal sense of the word or how thinking people define the word. I’m referring to the lgmified meaning.

  13. #13
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am, John Deaux said:

    I want to know why Al and Jesse aren’t up in arms over a white man beating a black man to stifle his free speech.

  14. #14
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am, nail49 said:

    I doubt whether the first post is accurate I’m sane — there are no confirmations.

    lgm: So do we, so do we.

  15. #15
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:29 am, Ragspierre said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:22 am, lgm said:

    I’m certain you know how pitiful you look.

  16. #16
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:29 am, cubbiegal said:

    Michelle:
    Have you seen this:
    I ordered mine yesterday.

  17. #17
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:30 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    advertisementSpartacus: And maybe there’s no peace in this world, for us or for anyone else, I don’t know. But I do know that, as long as we live, we must remain true to ourselves.

  18. #18
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:30 am, happyscrapper said:

    Those pictures are awesome! I just sent that web address to everyone in my address book!! Happyscrapper is a mobster! Who would have ever thought it?

  19. #19
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:30 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Gracchus: You and I have a tendency towards corpulence. Corpulence makes a man reasonable, pleasant and phlegmatic. Have you noticed the nastiest of tyrants are invariably thin?

  20. #20
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am, John Deaux said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:22 am, lgm said:

    I doubt whether the first post is accurate — there are no confirmations.

    Funny. That’s what we say to almost every one of your claims.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is lgm.

  21. #21
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I’m referring to the lgmified meaning.

    You mean like how he coyly refers to protesters as “anti-reform” when that is not what they are protesting.

  22. #22
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Batiatus: Come with us. See to it I don’t misuse the money.
    Gracchus: Don’t be ridiculous. I’m a Senator.

  23. #23
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:32 am, Paul Revere said:

    What next, democrats? Dogs and water hoses a la 1950′s?

  24. #24
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:32 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Marcus Licinius Crassus: The enemies of the state are known, arrests are being made, the prisons begin to fill.

  25. #25
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:32 am, Ragspierre said:

    Happyscrapper is a mobster! Who would have ever thought it?

    I like M-M-M, Scrappy.

    Militant

    Mobster

    Maggot

  26. #26
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:32 am, happyscrapper said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:21 am, tomg51 said:
    We’re Mob-ilized

    I love that. A great idea for a poster!! Or a T-shirt.

  27. #27
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    [Crassus, as the new Consul, addresses the legions and the Senate]
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: I promise you, a new Rome. A new Italy, and a new Empire.
    [pause]
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: This, I have sworn by the spirits of my ancestors. This I have sworn, in the temple that guards their bones.

    ——————————————————————————–
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: In every city and province, lists of the disloyal have been compiled. Tomorrow they will learn the cost of their terrible folly… their treason.
    Gracchus: And where does my name appear on the list of disloyal enemies of the state?
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: First.

  28. #28
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am, nail49 said:

    “Kenneth Gladney ‘acted stupidly’ by handing out those flags intended to incite a riot. The SEIU members were peacefully showing him the error of his ways when Mr Gladney struck one of the SEIU members on the knee with his nose and then used his kidney to punch another SEIU member on his fist.”

    POTUS at his next presser.

  29. #29
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am, happyscrapper said:

    anti-reform people

    Interesting choice of words, lgm. Another example of the left’s use of negative words to try and change us into something we’re not. We don’t fall for that crap any more. Changing words to change their meaning is so 1984. Won’t work in today’s aware climate.

  30. #30
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:38 am, Ragspierre said:

    I’m Anti-government control of my body, and every life choice I make.

    Put me down in THAT column.

  31. #31
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:39 am, happyscrapper said:

    You mean like how he coyly refers to protesters as “anti-reform” when that is not what they are protesting.

    Sorry, Salt! I hadn’t read your post before I posted mine!!! Great minds.

  32. #32
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:40 am, spaceycakes said:

    NO ONE had better put their hands on me or my husband.

    I respect the police, but those thugs in Tampa & St Louis are not police.

    You do know that Missouri is a ‘conceal-carry’ state, right?

  33. #33
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am, spaceycakes said:

    POTUS at his next presser.

    nail–which will be any moment now.

    And tomorrow too.

    Oh, and probably Monday—–when Rush is on.

  34. #34
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:28 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I’m referring to the lgmified meaning.

    You mean like how he coyly refers to protesters as “anti-reform” when that is not what they are protesting.

    Precisely. In order to demonize senior citizens who simply want their voices heard and have the government out of their lives, he has to package them in a way that makes it acceptable to stand on the sidelines and cheer on the thugs.

    Dr. Zero said it best:

    “We’re growing impatient waiting for the Democrats to come up with ideas that don’t require their supporters to hate someone.”

  35. #35
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am, DagneyT said:

    How dare a black man be a conservative! I hope that lawyer sues the crap out of both Carnahan, and the union the thugs belonged to! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  36. #36
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am, spaceycakes said:

    sues the crap out of both Carnahan, and the union the thugs belonged to!

    oh ho ho…I wouldn’t stop there…I’d make sure I got at least what he also pays in union dues, as well as whatever wheels he has, his house, his mistress’ condo, everything.

  37. #37
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am, pianoman said:

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

  38. #38
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:48 am, Misscheryl said:

    11:22 am, lgm said:
    I watched the Tampa video. It looks like the anti-reform people started chanting to disrupt the meeting, which brought others over to ask them to stop. Of course tempers were high as the demonstrators made it impossible for the meeting to continue.

    I doubt whether the first post is accurate — there are no confirmations.

    lgm, why do you think you matter so damn much? Your posts are comprised of nothing but your personal opinions and views. By all means, put a sock in it.

  39. #39
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:51 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am, nail49 said:

  40. #40
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:52 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Dang fat fingers!

    nail49, that was classic!

  41. #41
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:57 am, John Deaux said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Precisely. In order to demonize senior citizens who simply want their voices heard and have the government out of their lives, he has to package them in a way that makes it acceptable to stand on the sidelines and cheer on the thugs.

    Wait until they tell us they were confused and incoherent at these meetings. It worked on Walpin.

  42. #42
    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:59 am, John Deaux said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:40 am, spaceycakes said:

    You do know that Missouri is a ‘conceal-carry’ state, right?

    So is Florida.

  43. #43
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, twiggman said:

    People…lgm gets his jollies from everyone replying to his idiotic comments…Don’t answer the idiot, you are not going to change his DUMB A$$..

  44. #44
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:01 pm, happyscrapper said:

    A woman just called Glenn Beck and said she has a prayer group that prays for him all the time. And they have named their group “Mustard Seed” (in sharp contrast to acorn). In honor of that group and all the prayer groups in the country who are on their knees, I am going to purchase a mustard seed necklace and wear it around my neck. Anyone want to join me??

  45. #45
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, cubbiegal said:

    I’ll join you Happyscrapper.

  46. #46
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:03 pm, happyscrapper said:

    So is Florida.

    Believe it or not, so is Minnesota, thanks to Jesse Ventura. Don’t know how long we will be, but for now, we do have that right.

  47. #47
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:06 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:02 pm, cubbiegal said:
    I’ll join you Happyscrapper.

    Thanks! We will experience a miracle of healing if we just keep the faith.

    “If My people, who are called by My Name, will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven and will forgive their sins and will heal their land,” (II Chronicles 7:14, NIV).

  48. #48
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, Regulus said:

    What we’re seeing is the natural result of when people who long ago convinced themselves of the moral unassailability of their their ideology blend that conviction with a “By any means necessary” rationalization.

    And as the left is already accusing the ObamaCare protesters of being “brown-shirts” as advance justification to use violence against them, don’t forget that this was what same sort of thing the real Nazis did when they wanted to start a war with Poland: dress up a bunch of German political prisoners in Polish Army uniforms, machine-gun them down near a radio station along the border, and them claim that the Poles “started it.”

    The only difference between that and using SEIU thugs to provoke violent confrontations and then blame the protesters is that the SEIU thugs aren’t using guns — yet.

    Totalitarians are predictable, whether they call themselves “Democrats” or something else. They use the same methods. The donks today are marching through the dictator’s playbook in chapter order.

  49. #49
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:16 pm, Romeo13 said:

    My, how the Right has fallen…

    we used to be a VAST CONSPRIACY!

    Now, just a Mob…

    /sigh….

  50. #50
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pm, Stillwaiting said:

    I am Spartacus!!!

  51. #51
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pm, dan708 said:

    So this is what it has come to: the libby Obamatrons are so desperate to see passage of ObamaCare that they are willing to resort to violence to intimidate the opposition. THAT will gain you a lot of votes, Dumbocrats!

  52. #52
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pm, DagneyT said:

    I want to know why Al and Jesse aren’t up in arms over a white man beating a black man to stifle his free speech.

    John Deaux, conservative blacks do not count in their world. Look how they did Condie & Clarence Thomas!

  53. #53
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:43 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    I’m going to buy a wrestling mask, cape, and tights, and call myself “El Insuro”, fighter for free market healthcare.

  54. #54
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:48 pm, Cathy B said:

    Where is that link to where town hall meetings will be held during this recess? Thanks for your help.

    Cathy B in AZ

  55. #55
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pm, nail49 said:

    “El Insuro”, fighter for free market healthcare

    madmonkphotog: May I be your agent?

    If so, my first suggestion is to lose the kneepads!

    http://swellguy.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d1ea853ef01156ef86c2a970c-450wi

  56. #56
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pm, txvet2 said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:00 pm, twiggman said:

    I disagree. As with ILMC, OMU, and a few others, virtually everything that lgm posts is a lie, distortion, or mis-statement of the facts. It’s good for you and for everyone to counter every one of their posts with the truth. It’s good practice for other occasions when you have to deal with leftists and it helps inform those who are not fully up to speed on what the facts really are. Ad hominem attacks and non-specific insults don’t help much, though.

  57. #57
    On August 7th, 2009 at 12:59 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Let me get this straight…the President of the United States, in an effort to shut up anyone who disagrees with him, has called out a bunch of mafia-style thugs (ACORN, SEIU, Black Panthers)to intimidate and physically assault average citizens who are excercising their right to freedom of speech and assembly. Do I have that right? And this is NOT TREASON? Someone please tell me where that is not treason!! Obama is angry and has declared war on his “opponents”. That would be you and me, folks. The war has started.

  58. #58
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:57 am, John Deaux said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 11:42 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Precisely. In order to demonize senior citizens who simply want their voices heard and have the government out of their lives, he has to package them in a way that makes it acceptable to stand on the sidelines and cheer on the thugs.

    Wait until they tell us they were confused and incoherent at these meetings. It worked on Walpin.

    They’ll be diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s and given painkiller to alleviate their symptoms.

  59. #59
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:06 pm, Gorebot said:

    I know one should resist the temptation of vengeance, but I LOVE IT WHEN THE LEFT GETS A TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE!!!

  60. #60
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:15 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    We are calling on the SEIU, Representative Carnahan, and President Obama to condemn the racist actions of these union thugs.

    Yeah, when is Zero’s press conference scheduled so he can comment that even though he doesn’t know all the facts the SEIU thugs acted stupidly?

    Oh, wait. He won’t do that. That would be the truth. And if there’s one thing, absolutely one thing, that Zero has proven he cannot do it’s tell the truth.

  61. #61
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pm, nail49 said:

    Someone please tell me where that is not treason!!

    happyscrapper: Unfortunately, POTUS can declare he is carrying out his oath to “…support and defend the Constitution against all foes, foreign or domestic…”

    Those foes would be you, me and most everyone else on this thread.

    Others on the thread, e.g., lgm, IHateMyself, edelwuss, etc. will be awarded medals for “…supporting the cause.”

  62. #62
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, lgm said:

    MM says: “I am the mob.” (Didn’t Al Capone say something similar?)

    The best answer to this is the punch line of an old joke. The elderly Elenore Roosevelt was confronted by a man in a trench coat. He opened his coat in front of her exposing himself completely. She looked him up and down, then said sternly: “Sir, you have nothing to be proud of.”

  63. #63
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:29 pm, spaceycakes said:

    The best answer to this is the punch line of an old joke

    Let me be the first to say, ‘you’re the old joke, lgm.’

  64. #64
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:33 pm, nail49 said:

    lgm: Read Stillwaiting’s post (#50).

    Then go rent the movie and MAYBE you will understand what the statement “I am the mob!” means to us.

    BTW, Elenore [sic] is spelled E-l-e-a-n-o-r

    You remind me of Churchill’s statement to Lady Astor after she remanded him for being very drunk.

    “Yes, Madam, I am, and you are very ugly. But, in the morning I will be sober.”

    “Yes, lgm, we are the mob and you are very stupid. But, in 2010 the mob shall rule again.”

  65. #65
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:37 pm, Major O said:

    I hope that the tone I’m hearing of almost willingness to be slapped around isn’t representative of the anti-Obamacare crowd.

    I for one, should I find myself at one of these meetings when some union punk decides he’s going to try and “stifle” me, am going to make sure he or his friends think twice about trying to take care of a black conservative.

    Bring it.

  66. #66
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:40 pm, happyscrapper said:

    happyscrapper: Unfortunately, POTUS can declare he is carrying out his oath to “…support and defend the Constitution against all foes, foreign or domestic…”

    Foes of WHAT? We are opposing HIS agenda. We are not foes of the country. He cannot say that. It is blatantly false and everyone will see that. And, defend the Constitution? Obama recently put one of his contriband cigarettes out on a copy of the Constitution and set it on fire. Oooops. (kidding, but he definitely is shredding it as we speak.)

  67. #67
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:40 pm, Misscheryl said:

    1:37 pm, Major O said:
    I hope that the tone I’m hearing of almost willingness to be slapped around isn’t representative of the anti-Obamacare crowd.

    I for one, should I find myself at one of these meetings when some union punk decides he’s going to try and “stifle” me, am going to make sure he or his friends think twice about trying to take care of a black conservative.

    Bring it.

    Hear, Hear Major and I’ll stand right beside you!

  68. #68
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, lgm said:

    The sad fact is that much of what these mob members are angry about isn’t true. Some worry that Medicare will be taken over by the Federal government (hint: it’s a government program already). Watch this. A Republican tells a credulous audience that funding for living wills is equivalent to government mandated murder. Hint: if you’re making decisions about your own care, it’s not murder.

  69. #69
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:00 pm, happyscrapper said:

    It will be interesting to see them attack happyscrapper. Yeah, that will make a great video! As frightening as these thugs are, I would not hesitate to go up to them and get in their face! As long as there are witnesses, I would do it.

  70. #70
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, nail49 said:

    happyscarpper: I hear you, but read what I wrote… He can declare us as the domestic foes and rally his forces accordingly.

    Doesn’t mean we are, we will just be declared such!

  71. #71
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:02 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, lgm said:

    You are such a tool. One day, if you ever get a clue, you will realize that this administation is hurting you and your loved ones too!!! You are just so blinded by your screwed up ideology, you can’t see the truth of what they are doing. I pray they come for you first.

  72. #72
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:04 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, nail49 said:
    happyscarpper: I hear you, but read what I wrote… He can declare us as the domestic foes and rally his forces accordingly.

    Doesn’t mean we are, we will just be declared such!

    But how could he get away with that? Oh, I guess in collusion with the lying, treasonous media, maybe? Yeah, I guess that would work.

  73. #73
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, nail49 said:

    Some worry that Medicare will be taken over by the Federal government (hint: it’s a government program already).

    lgm: And the government’s running of Medicare (Social Security, Medicaid, Cash4Cars, insert your favorite government program here)convinces you they will be successful with this new brand of cr@p they are trying to shove into every one of our orifices?

  74. #74
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, T-Bone said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, lgm said:

    The best answer…

    You never have the best answer. Only lies, distortion, selective reasoning and cognitive dissonance. The truth and real discussion is beyond you. You are so hopelessly brainwashed and vapid, that you don’t even remotely recognize how far off the track you are. You must be the Village idiots teacher.

    You registered on a conservative site and yet never actually debate an issue and try to establish a meaningful discussion on the topics. You just spread droppings around and smile smugly about how cool you think you are without realizing how stupid you really sound. You are right and all conservatives are wrong. Basic logic shows that to be a fallacy. Get it?

  75. #75
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:23 pm, lgm said:

    The best answer to this is the punch line of an old joke.

    Hmm… That does sound like a liberal governing principle. ;)

  76. #76
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:19 pm, James Felix said:

    Watch this. A Republican tells a credulous audience that funding for living wills is equivalent to government mandated murder.

    What the hell is “funding for a living will” supposed to mean? A living will doesn’t cost anything. You can get a form at Staples for five bucks, pay a notary two bucks to stamp it and bingo, living will. And if seven bucks is out of your price range the hospital will give you a DNR form for free.

    What people are justifiably worried about is representatives of the government essentially encouraging suicide because they’ve been deemed cost-ineffective to treat.

    You argue in bad faith. Instead of honestly putting forth a position and then defending it you lie about what you’re advocating.

  77. #77
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pm, James Felix said:

    The sad fact is that much of what these mob members are angry about isn’t true.

    Have the deficits not increased astronomically in the first six months of this administration? Has spending not gotten so far out of control that it’s actually threating the Government’s bond rating?

    Have the Democrats in Congress not flat out admitted that they want to pass a bill they haven’t read?

    Is Obama not trying to completely re-make a major chunk of the economy using a process completely devoid of transparency, accountability or meaningful debate?

    I’m pretty sure those are the things that most of us are fired up about. You want to try telling me they’re not true?

  78. #78
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, huggybear said:

    Your posts are comprised of nothing but your personal opinions and views.

    LOL! Just curious, whose opinions are your posts comprised of?

  79. #79
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Felix ~

    Have the Democrats in Congress not flat out admitted that they want to pass a bill they haven’t read?

    An Healthcare Bill written by the Apollo group and the Communist Green Czar! That’s ACORN and SEIU creating and organizing our single payer system.

    I’d site Glenn Beck as a source, but it would be wasted on LGM.

    Give Beck a few minutes of your “open-minded” time.

  80. #80
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, nail49 said:

    huggybear: Many times we are just quoting the current Administration to point out their lies and dissembling. That tends to infuriate liberals who hate to see their own words turned on them.

  81. #81
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, lgm said:
    The sad fact is that much of what these mob members are angry about isn’t true. Some worry that Medicare will be taken over by the Federal government (hint: it’s a government program already). Watch this. A Republican tells a credulous audience that funding for living wills is equivalent to government mandated murder. Hint: if you’re the government is making decisions about your own care that results in a premature death, it’s not murder.

    How is lgm an idiot? Let me count the ways:

    1. Saying that much of what these people attending meetings are angry about isn’t true is your opinion, not a fact. How do you presume to know what these people are angry about? What if they’re angry about the fact that Obamacare gives the government access to your financial institution records so they can take funds out of your account automatically? That, bozo, is true and anyone who wouldn’t be angry about that is stupid.

    2. Yes, Medicare is a government program (to hell with your hint, how many people who attended these meetings don’t know that). But not all government programs are equal. Medicare still allows for private sector options besides Medicare; if not immediately, then certainly in the out-years, Obamacare won’t.

    3. Please refer to the changes I made to your second (worthless) hint. That’s the real story that will exist under Obamacare.

    Carry on, tool.

  82. #82
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pm, nail49 said:

    “open-minded” time.

    rightwingmom: lgm‘s mind is always open. There is nothing but vast open space between his ears, which he proves every time he posts.

  83. #83
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    Some of you may be interested to know this. In my daily ritual of story comparison I went to see what the DUmmies have to say about the attack on Mr. Gladney. Using the DU search function, I entered his name and came up with one, count ‘em, ONE thread, that had only 6 comments although it had been posted at approx 2 a.m. Of course, the comments ranged from “false arrest” to “Authoritarian ***holes” to “Rovian tactics. Phil Parlock would be proud.”

    Oddly enough, DU is literally awash with threads about the townhall meetings, but any mention of the St. Louis one is rare. On one the arrests are mentioned with most of them wondering what side they were on (as if they really have no idea at all). On that same one they marveled at the fact that the victim and the attacker were both black as if the fact that a black man could be conservative was unimaginable. Last but not least, the last of the total of 8 commentors wondered if the racial slur used was “Uncle Tom”.

    I am still looking and reading, but it is clear there is a BIG effort to color all the demonstrators as being hired guns. Watching the news this morning it is clear they are being steered toward this group think from the top. Everyone from Obama to Pelosi to Reid on down the line to their sheep at the bottom are using the “Turfer” label to enable them to ignore the clear opposition to their plan. And none of them will be losing a moments sleep in the end. They will do what they want and say “We were willing to listen to reason.”

    I think that push is really heading to shove on this one folks.

  84. #84
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:54 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, huggybear said: “I swoop, I poop.”

    Don’t engage it.

  85. #85
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, nail49 said:

    Don’t engage it.

    happyscrapper: Roger, Wilco!

  86. #86
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pm, Major O said:

    I think that push is really heading to shove on this one folks.

    It will if we have the stomach to see it through. This is the old dilemma: right NOW things don’t seem that bad so the temptation is to say, “Oh well! We can just take over in 2010″ and hope for the best.

    Nobody, including me most of all, wants to stand vigilant and keep the pressure on with making our voices heard. It is tiring and hard to swim against the tide, but that’s what everyone will have to do in order to effect REAL “change.”

  87. #87
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:02 pm, fred5676 said:

    From the Denver story:

    U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, visiting a Denver clinic for the homeless Thursday, insisted that Democrats are united in backing health care reform …

    and

    Do we have a diversity of opinion? Yes,” she said. “But we do not have a split in the party.”

    If this is true, why didn’t Pelosi and Reid just schedule a vote and be done with it??? Hmmmmm??? After all, they control absolutely both houses of Congress (or DO they???)

  88. #88
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:02 pm, huggybear said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:54 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, huggybear said: “I swoop, I poop.”

    I admit it, I can’t resist. Sometimes it’s just too easy!

  89. #89
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:09 pm, txvet2 said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm, huggybear said:

    While much of it is informed opinion, as much as possible we try to deal in facts. You, lgm, and the rest of the leftists here deal in lies and distortions. Of course you can’t help it, because your true beliefs cannot be sustained by facts, history, or reasoned argument. Of course, there are some on the conservative side who also argue from emotion rather than fact, but they tend to be a minority. In general, people don’t try to cover the entire factual basis for their arguments in every post, because it’s redundant and unnecessary except to inform such as yourself who apparently haven’t read the underlying material and don’t understand the issues.

  90. #90
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:09 pm, Ragspierre said:

    A Republican tells a credulous audience that funding for living wills is equivalent to government mandated murder. Hint: if you’re making decisions about your own care, it’s not murder.

    This is the second or third time you’ve tried this meme.

    Tell me this, lgm. How would you feel about a Federal mandate that required that every five years, people had to be counseled to vote Republican. Any problem with that? Any chance that people would be influenced in the conservative direction?

    You are, as proven over and again, a voluntary idiot.

  91. #91
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Nobody, including me most of all, wants to stand vigilant and keep the pressure on with making our voices heard. It is tiring and hard to swim against the tide, but that’s what everyone will have to do in order to effect REAL “change.”

    There’s the deal. Frankly, being a big, tough old lawyer, I will volunteer to go to any area town hall to act as security for any conservatives there.

    If my physical self doesn’t make them think about an attack on the “mob”, my lawyer status will.

  92. #92
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, huggybear said:

    Of course, there are some on the conservative side who also argue from emotion rather than fact, but they tend to be a minority. In general, people don’t try to cover the entire factual basis for their arguments in every post, because it’s redundant and unnecessary except to inform such as yourself who apparently haven’t read the underlying material and don’t understand the issues.

    Sorry, I would love to address this but I’m busy trying to find a hiding place for my grandma. This factually-based congress-lady tells me Obama is going to kill her. We were going to send her to Canada but, well… you know.

  93. #93
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:19 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:12 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I never thought I would say this to a lawyer, Rags, but…I think I love you.

  94. #94
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Sorry, I would love to address this but I’m busy trying to find a hiding place for my grandma. This factually-based congress-lady tells me Obama is going to kill her. We were going to send her to Canada but, well… you know.

    Ha!! Now that’s better, Huggy! Some humor. We can appreciate that. Unlike the liberals who get all, “I’m offended”, etc., if you say something truly funny, we will laugh.

  95. #95
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:25 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I never thought I would say this to a lawyer, Rags, but…I think I love you.

    Back atcha, Scrappy!

  96. #96
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, Major O said:

    There’s the deal. Frankly, being a big, tough old lawyer, I will volunteer to go to any area town hall to act as security for any conservatives there.

    If my physical self doesn’t make them think about an attack on the “mob”, my lawyer status will.

    I’ve got 6’3, and 232lbs of bulk on me so I’m not exactly small either. That’s not the point for me. It’s that I tend to not want to be bothered, period. Just being honest. So it takes a lot to get me up and moving, but this has become one of those times for me.
    It’s just getting crazy!

  97. #97
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pm, Ragspierre said:

    It’s that I tend to not want to be bothered, period. Just being honest. So it takes a lot to get me up and moving, but this has become one of those times for me.
    It’s just getting crazy!

    That’s me, too, Major. I don’t like crowds…partly because I’ve seen people do stupid things that could have gotten a lot of people hurt in a crowd, and I don’t control idiots.

    I also like my own company just fine, and I really hate being lied to. So, all things being equal, the last place you’d normally find me is at politician’s bloviation-fest.

    But this…

    I’m ready to take to the streets of DC if we need to, in order to keep this monstrosity at bay.

  98. #98
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Snowfire said:

    Here is a poem that has kept me going through the years and it seems to fit our interesting times right now.

    Invictus

    Out of the night that covers me,
    Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
    I thank whatever gods may be
    For my unconquerable soul.

    In the fell clutch of circumstance
    I have not winced nor cried aloud.
    Under the bludgeonings of chance
    My head is bloody, but unbowed.

    Beyond this place of wrath and tears
    Looms but the horror of the shade,
    And yet the menace of the years
    Finds, and shall find me, unafraid.

    It matters not how strait the gate,
    How charged with punishments the scroll,
    I am the master of my fate;
    I am the captain of my soul.

    William Ernest Henley

  99. #99
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Major and Rags, your personalities are similar to mine. I don’t like crowds and it takes a lot to get me motivated. I like my own company better than anyone else does and I hate liars but I’m only 4’11″

  100. #100
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:10 pm, Major O said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, Misscheryl said:
    Major and Rags, your personalities are similar to mine. I don’t like crowds and it takes a lot to get me motivated. I like my own company better than anyone else does and I hate liars but I’m only 4′11″

    It’s ok MissCheryl, you can sit on our shoulders and watch our backs!
    I’m not wishing for violence on anyone, but I’m not going to sit by at a town hall while people are victimized. They really need to get the police involved early and the news crews need to be there to put the fear of being further “caught on tape” to the perpetrators.

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