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1. #1
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pm, JammieWearingFool said:

   Adopt a union thug today!

2. #2
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:30 pm, RobM1981 said:

   So let me get this straight…

   they HIRED “grass-roots organizers,” and yet they accuse US of being disingenuous?

   How can ANYONE taking a check be viewed as anything but a hired thug? And how can their view be considered anything but biased?

   This MoveOn crap has to make it onto Fox News and whatever other mouthpieces we have, because it’s almost beyond belief.

   Do they even know that they are openly admitting to doing what they wrongly accuse the conservatives of? Or are they too stupid to even know that?

3. #3
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:34 pm, Paul Revere said:

   Brad Miller, the NC “Representative” mentioned, is a liar. He’s a far left wing tool, and is obviously afraid to face informed constituents. I’ve yet to see Brad Miller show any proof of the death threats. HE.IS.LYING.

4. #4
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm, DagneyT said:

   At least I can agree with one thing; It’s getting ugly out there!

5. #5
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, spaceycakes said:

   using new technology to implement rapid response town hall turnout

   So, they’re twittering?

   cretins.

6. #6
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, Paul Revere said:

   Here’s BRAD MILLER‘s website. Ask him to show you the money.

   (You can use my zip code… 27615-2448 if you want)

7. #7
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:40 pm, right_on said:

   We’re entirely funded by our 5 million members—no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way.

   Yeah, no Soros…no Bing…just innocent little members!

   No big checks…uh huh, that’s right! It’s tougher to trace where “cash” comes from. Small staff?

   Yep….money divides better with smaller numbers!

   I have never wished ill for anyone with opposing views, but these people ARE dangerous, and they ARE trying to, and have gone a long way toward destroying America. I am slowly changing my view.

8. #8
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pm, jimpenny said:

   Keep up the pressure.
   Fight back. Fight hard. Fight now.
   Attend a town hall meeting near you.

9. #9
   On August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, bloodhound said:

   We’ve hired skilled grassroots organizers…”

   Don’t be silly, those terms (“hired” & “grassroots”) aren’t mutually exclusive!

10. #10
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I think the scariest element in all of this is the treasonous press’s unwillingness to report the TRUTH. Without the truth getting out there, the propaganda can hurt us big time! The cover-ups by the media are truly frightening.

11. #11
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:47 pm, letget said:

    If any here goes to these meetings and get assulted, please have video proof and get legal help. I have no idea what legal action can be taken, but get all you can get. This crud has got to be stopped! I hope those who have already been assulted, does the same.
    L

12. #12
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:47 pm, RobM1981 said:

    jimpenny,

    Any way of finding them online? I’ve checked my congressman’s website, and there’s no mention of one (I wrote and asked, too…)

13. #13
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, lgm said:

    This didn’t mention disrupting townhall meetings of Republicans. It seems that anyone working for moveon.org is, by your definition, a thug. The people organizing Republican disruptions — are those Freedom Fighters?

    Look. In a Democracy people have a say, they argue, then they vote. Americans voted in Obams and lots of Democratic Congressmen and Senators. Obama’s platform was health care, reducing carbon emissions, etc. If a minority is able to prevent these things Americans voted for from happening, that’s not Democracy.

14. #14
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, rightisright said:

    this is ugly, not nearly as ugly as it’s going to get, just watch. the libturds are scared and dangerous.

    BeAware, BePrepared.

15. #15
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:54 pm, right4life said:

    The people organizing Republican disruptions — are those Freedom Fighters

    who are these shadowy people?? hmmm?? all you do is spew left-wing talking points and lies…bet you’re a racist union thug.

16. #16
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:56 pm, rising21 said:

    I like how all of the footnotes to their “facts” lead directly to moveon.org or thinkprogress posts.

17. #17
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    The ‘hired grassroots organizers’ is why Nancy Pelosi’s claims of “astroturfing” are so dripping with irony.

    Or maybe they are dripping excess collagen and botulinum toxin type A

18. #18
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    lgm

    Obama got elected as a ‘moderate’ post-racial Hope and Change uniter.

    He is a lying sack of sh!t, a Communist, and a thug.

    He is not what Americans voted for, you tool.

19. #19
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, lgm said:

    This didn’t mention disrupting townhall meetings of Republicans. It seems that anyone working for moveon.org is, by your definition, a thug. The people organizing Republican disruptions — are those Freedom Fighters?

    Look. In a Democracy people have a say, they argue, then they vote. Americans voted in Obams and lots of Democratic Congressmen and Senators. Obama’s platform was health care, reducing carbon emissions, etc. If a minority is able to prevent these things Americans voted for from happening, that’s not Democracy.

    We’re a Republic, lgm, not a Democracy. We have rule of law here not government takeover by sob story whim. You are right about the minority having power. Righteous and inspired minorities have great power over majority apathetic and lazy moochers taking government handouts.

20. #20
    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, pianoman said:

    JammieWearingFool said:

    Do they even know that they are openly admitting to doing what they wrongly accuse the conservatives of? Or are they too stupid to even know that?

    They know exactly what they are doing. If they constantly project, speak out and out lies, and obfuscate the truth…and do it over and over relentlessly (with the help of a treasonous media), eventually all of us sheeple will short circuit and accept all the contradictions and lies as THE TRUTH.

    Mr. Orwell knew exactly what he was talking about.

21. #21
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:00 pm, rightisright said:

    my Rep. has town hall’s scheduled all over his district, a liberal by the way, actually an self proclaimed socialist years ago. Peter DeFazio, I’m going to the one in my town the 18th of Aug. taking a camera.

22. #22
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Grassroots ©
    A wholly owned subsidiary of the Demokratik Party, Inc.

23. #23
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    The only good thing about this, Obama is playing all in with his union goons and thugs acting like the SA in pre-Nazi Germany, because he knows how important nationalizing health care and making the citizens into subjects is in furthering his goal of creating a one party state with him as supreme leader.

    He, and his fellow traitors like Reid and Pelotox must sense they are losing the fight, or they would not be pushing back so hard.

24. #24
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, lgm said:

    The people organizing Republican disruptions — are those Freedom Fighters?

    You still believe that everyone opposed to Obamacare is a Republican?

    Look. In a Democracy people have a say, they argue, then they vote. Americans voted in Obams and lots of Democratic Congressmen and Senators. Obama’s platform was health care, reducing carbon emissions, etc. If a minority is able to prevent these things Americans voted for from happening, that’s not Democracy.

    That’s a long version of “I won”, but it doesn’t really mean anything. Do liberals only believe in having a minority voice when they are the minority? Look, that’s why we live in a republic and not a true democracy.

    This brand of hubris only lasts as long as the next election year. Keep telling everyone that the only ones opposed to Obamacare are Republicans. That could easily be a 2010 campaign slogan.

25. #25
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, rightisright said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, pianoman said:

    Your exactly right, these people are not stupid as many call them, they know exactly what they are doing, it’s all part of their plan to change America into a European socialist country.

    I would and will die fighting for my country rather than exist without god given freedoms.

26. #26
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, nacho475 said:

    ummm, can we secede yet???

    will this get me flagged???

27. #27
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Sorry for the redundant post. I should have guessed someone would jump on that point.

28. #28
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, JamieD said:

    This is a war between “Good” and “Bad”.

    Good people exercise their constitutional rights to let their representatives know that they are against BAD policies.

    The BAD representatives argue for the BAD policy, so naturally, the GOOD demand their voices be heard.

    So to fix this problem, the BAD hire more BAD people to silence the GOOD people.

    The BAD congress people label the GOOD as BAD to justify their own actions.

    You can take the content of these policies, along with the prior behavior and past declarations of those who are for them and immediately draw the conclusion that these are BAD policies for the average American. You can also see that these policies are GOOD for the BAD people (i.e SEIU:THUGS, Illegals:Criminals, Long term unemployed:parasites, Democratic Party:Communists).

    I thought Americans gave their life for freedom from “BAD”? Now the bad are determined to eliminate the GOOD at any cost; even at the cost of the destruction of the USA.

29. #29
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, WrshpMzshn said:

    If the shouts of the right-wing mobs are the only voices our senators and representatives hear over the recess, we’ll have a hard time passing health care and clean energy legislation.

    And that’s a good thing.

30. #30
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm, pianoman said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, lgm said:
    In a Democracy people have a say, they argue, then they vote.

    First of all, we are currently a constitutional representative republic, NOT a democracy. Schoolteacher, huh?
    Second, in said republic, elected representatives are supposed to represent the will of those who elected them. How can they argue a point when they don’t even want to HEAR the other side? How can people have a say when they are denied permission or opportunity to do so? Why am I having to explain concepts so obvious my nine-year old grandson can understand them?
    You certainly have the right to express whatever thoughts you may have in this forum, but I for one am highly offended when you utter the term “freedom fighters”. On the evidence, you have no knowledge or love of true freedom, nor what it takes to preserve it, up to and especially including fighting.

31. #31
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:10 pm, corona said:

    moveon‘s very existence prove that’s it’s a Big Lie

    Just answer one question: move on from what?

32. #32
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:16 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM: The left is just mad because they can’t do the staged “town hall meetings” with pre-approved, screened questions anymore.

33. #33
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:17 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    They are hiring professional agitators?!?!? To counter local citizens who are merely upset?

    The fuse is lit.

34. #34
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:18 pm, nail49 said:

    Heat Up Congress campaign

    Hey, I guess I can join this Move-on thing and light a fire under our CongressCritters to stop shoving this cr@p down our collective throats!

35. #35
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pm, mattm said:

    I guess it is true when their sources are themselves or other far-left blogs.

36. #36
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pm, pianoman said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, rightisright said:

    Your exactly right, these people are not stupid as many call them, they know exactly what they are doing, it’s all part of their plan to change America into a European socialist country.

    From the book The Language of the 3rd Reich, by Victor Klemperer (emphasis mine):

    “No, the most powerful influence was exerted neither by individual speeches nor by articles or flyers, posters or flags; it was not achieved by things which one had to absorb by conscious thought or conscious emotions.

    Instead Nazism permeated the flesh and blood of the people through single words, idioms and sentence structures which were imposed on them in a million repetitions and taken on board mechanically and unconsciously. . . language does not simply write and think for me, it also increasingly dictates my feelings and governs my entire spiritual being the more unquestioningly and unconsciously I abandon myself to it.

    And what happens if the cultivated language is made up of poisonous elements or has been made the bearer of poisons? Words can be like tiny doses of arsenic: they are swallowed unnoticed, appear to have no effect, and then after a little time the toxic reaction sets in after all.”

    Sound familiar?

    I would and will die fighting for my country rather than exist without god given freedoms.

    Many of us are. I hope we are enough.

37. #37
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Remember these lyrics when you go to your townhall event…

38. #38
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm, sonofdy said:

    Paul Revere:

    If you give your zip-code + the 4 digit extension, you actualy just gave anyone with the correct software your full address.

    Just so you know.

39. #39
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pm, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm, sonofdy said:

    Paul Revere:

    If you give your zip-code + the 4 digit extension, you actualy just gave anyone with the correct software your full address.

    Just so you know.

    While it does denote a smaller area, it’s not quite your full address unless you live rather far away from any of your neighbors.

40. #40
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pm, sonofdy said:

    BTW nice appartment block. Are 3 dumpsters enough? Pretty trees.

    Yes the internet is a scary place

41. #41
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, sonofdy said:

    My point is this, Watch what you post because the way things are going, ANY identifying information may soon compromise you.

42. #42
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:39 pm, Boomer said:

    To use a phrase from the fighter pilots I work with “Fights On! Fights On!”

43. #43
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, sonofdy said:

    My point is this, Watch what you post because the way things are going, ANY identifying information may soon compromise you

    Fair enough. Isn’t that was flag@whitehouse is for?

44. #44
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, nail49 said:

    “Fights On! Fights On!”

    One of our ploys was to say, “We’ll meet you in the area going 350 knots at 25,000 feet!”

    Once in the area, we would enter the fight from 35,000 going the ‘speed of stink!’

    Then the fight WOULD be on!

45. #45
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:45 pm, Ron said:

    Notice how they footnote themselves, and refer to their own hyperbole to justify their insanity? Or cite such credible sources as the Huff-n-Puff post? I live in a conservative Texas House district, and my representative is having a town hall meeting tomorrow. I’m attending, not to protest — he’s on our side — but to make sure nobody from MoveOn.org or Acorn shows up, or if they do, there’s someone to shout them down. And as for Obama’s promise to “respond” with twice the force if his lackeys are opposed, bring it on! We can double-down with the best of them when our backs are against the wall.

46. #46
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:46 pm, cheapseat said:

    astroturf personafied. move-on needs 250k to hire paid “spokespersons” to confront these extremists. but not one assault until these left spokespeople arrived and started assaulting the mob. hmmmmm. peace be upon him.

47. #47
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:47 pm, sonofdy said:

    When in death ground, fight.

    sun tzu

48. #48
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:49 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    “We’ve hired skilled grassroots organizers…”

    I hope it’s the Swedish Che-bikini Team.

49. #49
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:52 pm, traveler49 said:

    It has finally started. By the leftwing union thugs, instigated by our own government no less. I say bring it on. I will not start any violence but I will stand my ground and express my freedom of speech. This is the catalyst we need to take back our country from the socialist/marxists. It is also the only language they understand…force. I am a man of peace but I must be free. No union thug will take my freedom away from me easily.

50. #50
    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:57 pm, sonofdy said:

    Fair enough. Isn’t that was flag@whitehouse is for?

    TRUST ME, that is only the start.

51. #51
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, JohnnyD said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:49 pm, lgm said:
    The people organizing Republican disruptions — are those Freedom Fighters?

    That’s a big Hell Yeah, lgm. Freedom from the oppression of those who wish to end freedom.

    Obama’s platform was health care, reducing carbon emissions, etc. If a minority is able to prevent these things Americans voted for from happening, that’s not Democracy.

    No one voted to have a single-payer health care system and no one voted to have the lie of carbon emissions shoved down our throats.

    And finally, it is too much to expect for our representatives to read the legislatation they vote on? That’s part of the anger too if you haven’t been paying attention. I’ll bet you don’t except work from a student who hasn’t read the sylabus. It’s the same thing.

52. #52
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pm, battleaxe said:

    I think a time-honored American tradition is in order for politicians supporting this health care bill – “tar and feathering”.

53. #53
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:15 pm, spaceycakes said:

    The people organizing Republican disruptions

    Give us the proof of the ‘organizing’ part played by ‘Republicans’…

    I can wait.

    I’m doing my nails.

54. #54
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:17 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Just heard on Micheal Medved a clip of Obama wanting us to shut up and get out of the way because he’s cleaning up “our mess”.

    This thing is starting to really escalate.

55. #55
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, rplatt said:

    Liberty and freedom are gone in this country . . . control has shifted to gangs of thugs. Protect yourselves and don’t end up like the Florida protester.

56. #56
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:21 pm, traveler49 said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pm, battleaxe said:
    I think a time-honored American tradition is in order for politicians supporting this health care bill – “tar and feathering”.

    Just to update it, how about superglue and packing foam peanuts?

    By the way, I like your screen name.

57. #57
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, lgm said:

    Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said (#18):

    Obama got elected as a ‘moderate’ post-racial Hope and Change uniter.

    He is a lying sack of sh!t, a Communist, and a thug.

    Obama said his agenda loud and clear during the campaign. Health care reform was at the top of the list.

    Now, thanks in part to MM, the iamthemob people (thugs?) are threatening to bring guns to one of these townhalls. The MM Limbaugh Beck hysteria is going to get people killed.

    Now answer two questions:

    1: Does one of the health care bills call for murder of senior citizens as Republican office holders are claiming?

    2: Is Medicare a government program, as many Republican office holders are denying?

58. #58
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:29 pm, traveler49 said:

    If I carry a gun to the grocery store or a day at the beach, why wouldn’t I carry one to a townhall?

59. #59
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:34 pm, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, lgm said:

    Now, thanks in part to MM,

    That is simply intellectually dishonest. Michelle is in no way responsible for another person’s tweet and you know it.

    Don’t you ever tire of parroting or linking TalkingPointsMemo? Are you on Josh Marshall’s payroll?

    the iamthemob people (thugs?) are threatening to bring guns to one of these townhalls.

    One man does not a plural make. The left has no shortage of extremists as well. Do they define your viewpoints?

60. #60
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM: 2 things.

    1/ Did you really link to a site literaly named “the talking points memo”???

    2/ The violence has already started, by the left. We are not the jews in Germany in 1939.

61. #61
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, nail49 said:

    how about superglue and packing foam peanuts?

    Now THAT would be fun!

62. #62
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    Effigy – How many images of President Bush have we seen hanged in effigy?

    Tampa – What? No mention of the fact that there was no violence until the unions began showing up at townhall meetings?

    I’m done with the left. All of them.

    They picked the wrong nation to f*ck with.

63. #63
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:41 pm, nlebou said:

    The Obama adm is to blame for all this. They blew off honest, hardworking citizens who dared to question them. They encourage neighbors to tattle on each other but we are the ones inciting violence????

    Obama and his minions are the ones fanning the flames. This will not end good.

64. #64
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pm, traveler49 said:

    Obama and his minions are the ones fanning the flames. This will not end good.

    Oh yes it will.

65. #65
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:45 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, lgm said:

    Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said (#18):

    Obama got elected as a ‘moderate’ post-racial Hope and Change uniter.

    He is a lying sack of sh!t, a Communist, and a thug.

    Obama said his agenda loud and clear during the campaign. Health care reform was at the top of the list.

    Now, thanks in part to MM, the iamthemob people (thugs?) are threatening to bring guns to one of these townhalls. The MM Limbaugh Beck hysteria is going to get people killed.

    Now answer two questions:

    1: Does one of the health care bills call for murder of senior citizens as Republican office holders are claiming?

    2: Is Medicare a government program, as many Republican office holders are denying?

    Oh, so tpm is where you keep your brain. I always wondered where you got your ideas.

    The only “agenda” Obama propounded during the campaign was “Hope and Change” (a.k.a. “Dope and Hang”).

    MM isn’t answerable for how others use her post titles. As far as your two questions, I’ve got one for you:

    1) Why in the hell do you continue to bang the anti-Republican drum here after you’ve been repeatedly told by many posters that this is not a Republican blog?

    Go yap at the Republicans for a while, kid. You bother me.

66. #66
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, 31Bravo said:

    my Rep. has town hall’s scheduled all over his district, a liberal by the way, actually an self proclaimed socialist years ago. Peter DeFazio, I’m going to the one in my town the 18th of Aug. taking a camera.

    It’s tough being a conservative in the Peoples Republic of Oregon- I did it for more than 10 years.

    Oregon is my home, and will be until I shuffle off this mortal coil but most of the people there I can do with out.

    I’ll be back someday for good.

67. #67
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:53 pm, 31Bravo said:

    The MM Limbaugh Beck hysteria is going to get people killed.

    But a couple love taps from the SEIU in a 3 on 1 assault isn’t hurting anyone right?

68. #68
    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:55 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, Salt said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Sorry for the redundant post. I should have guessed someone would jump on that point.

    Salt,
    I just noticed that I repeated one of your points. It’s good to know that we’re on the same page and that the truth can be so obvious. …or maybe great minds just think alike?

69. #69
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:16 pm, spaceycakes said:

    still waiting.

    Now I’m polishing my jewelry.

    Oh! I found another thing whilst waiting:

    Now answer two questions

    Um. No. Still waiting on yours…

70. #70
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:18 pm, right4life said:

    2: Is Medicare a government program, as many Republican office holders are denying?

    who? post your proof you lying sack of…

71. #71
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, neocon527 said:

    I get it. You don’t want universal heathcare. You are opposed to all forms of government run healthcare (except for Medicare, I presume). But, please, the Nazi analogies, the laughable (if they weren’t so ridiculously insulting, offensive and stupid) assertions that “we are not the Jews in 1939,” have to stop. Maybe being taken seriously isn’t your top priority, but it seems amusingly, if not surprisingly hypocritical to see this behavior from the crowd that never stops ranting about how anything the left says is invalid because people on their side say ignorant and offensive things or hold up offensive and hateful signs (which they do, obviously, because unless you’ve missed it, most people don’t know how to express themselves calmly and cogently).

72. #72
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, JonB said:

    Spaceycakes, you’re going to be waiting for a looong time.

73. #73
    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm, neocon527 said:

    Spaceycakes, do Americans for Prosperity and Freedomworks count? I’m not sure what standard you require. Does it need to be organized from, say, John Boehner’s office or maybe from the RNC? If things were reversed and MoveOn was doing this, would that count as Dem organizing or would it be grassroots?

74. #74
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pm, sonofdy said:

    neocon527: Where the hell have you been for the last 8 years?

    You want the nazi references to stop? Stop acting like nazis.

75. #75
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 4:54 pm, neocon527 said:

    Spaceycakes, do Americans for Prosperity and Freedomworks count? I’m not sure what standard you require. Does it need to be organized from, say, John Boehner’s office or maybe from the RNC? If things were reversed and MoveOn was doing this, would that count as Dem organizing or would it be grassroots?

    neocon527,
    No one can prevent Republicans from organizing and attending these events. I’ll tell you this: if I attend one these farcical government health care takeover sessions, I’m going on my own or with a group of like minded friends. No one from the RNC or health care industry has contacted me or anyone I know. If I see Republicans there trying to horn in on the grassroots, I’m going to tell those opportunists to get lost. We don’t want or need their “help”. If the Congressman holding the session doesn’t answer the tough questions, if he doesn’t listen to his constituents, if he is condescending, then all bets are off as far as “shouting down”.

76. #76
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, neocon527 said:

    Wow. You got me. That was just such a great retort, I’m stunned. I mean, gee, the other side acts like jerks, so you can too! But, no, no it’s different because you do it. It’s not the same, because you say so! Hurray! I mean, seriously, if you were so outraged by the signs at demonstrations showing Bush with a Hitler mustache, why would you endorse the same behavior, in this case, putting the Hitler stache on President Obama? Do you not see that that makes no sense? Do you see that the way you probably viewed those protesters is how a lot of people now look at the protesters you’re defending or, even worse, endorsing to the point where you believe their claims are not just inflammatory for the sake of shocking people, but acutally based in some kind of fact?

    You can disagree with policy and not resort to the cheapest, childish move in the book. Your disagreement with healthcare policy does not equate you with “the Jews of 1939.” You insinuating that it does, is an insult to those still living and the memories of those not lucky enough to have escaped or survived. You could, y’know, offer alternatives to policies you disagree with. Or you could learn how to make an analogy that in any way applies to your present circumstance. But, why do that, right? You said Nazi! You win!

77. #77
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:46 pm, sonofdy said:

    neocon527, I dont care if I offend you or any other obamabot. You would understand my reference to the jews in 1939 if you cracked open a history book. The jews in nazi Germany quietly went along to their deaths, accepting thier fates with no protest. We aren’t going out that way.

    As for the protests and hitler references, I will be damn before I let some liberal hypocrite tell me what is and is not acceptable because YOU SET THE STANDARD.

    So Don’t like me, I don’t care. I will continue to call them as I see them. So why don’t you or one of your jackbooted thugs comes along to try to stop me?

    We still have the 1st amendment in this country, for now anyway.

78. #78
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, corkie said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm, lgm said:

    Obama said his agenda loud and clear during the campaign. Health care reform was at the top of the list.

    I don’t understand your point.

    Are you saying that since Obama was elected the House and Senate shouldn’t be voting on these bills?

79. #79
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, neocon527 said:

    JetJaguar,

    Fair enough. The post I was responding to seemed to imply that these protests are not being organized by conservative groups or Republicans. Which seems like an odd stance to take. I mean, why wouldn’t they be organizing these kinds of protests?

80. #80
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:52 pm, neocon527 said:

    Oh, sonofdy. Ya see, I gave you a little bit of credit there. I wasn’t going to say that you were one of these “lambs to the slaughter” types. I know my history. And, yes, many people, not able to fathom their eventual fate, “went along.” But there are numerous cases of resistance. Far braver acts than you or I will probably ever perform. But keep getting all red in the face. Keep making idle threats. It’s worked out well so far, right?

81. #81
    On August 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pm, sonofdy said:

    Not idle. I will not hit first, but I sure as hell will hit last if it comes to that.

82. #82
    On August 7th, 2009 at 6:37 pm, lgm said:

    corkie said (#78):

    Are you saying that since Obama was elected the House and Senate shouldn’t be voting on these bills?

    Good point. But remember that the house and senate are majority Democratic, and health care reform is one of the top Democratic issues too. My comment about Obama was in response to someone claiming Obama was not elected to reform health care.

83. #83
    On August 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm, Laree said:

    Never let a crisis go unexploited

84. #84
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:11 pm, JHSII said:

    My, the trolls are out in force tonight!

    Kinda expected though – as they’re discovering that they can’t silence the voice of real Americans!!

85. #85
    On August 7th, 2009 at 10:27 pm, Papa Louie said:

    lgm said:

    Obama said his agenda loud and clear during the campaign. Health care reform was at the top of the list.

    Yes, and most American’s still want to reform health care. It’s just that they want to make it better not worse!

86. #86
    On August 8th, 2009 at 1:07 am, corkie said:

    On August 7th, 2009 at 6:37 pm, lgm said:

    But remember that the house and senate are majority Democratic, and health care reform is one of the top Democratic issues too.

    What the heck are you trying to say?

    The Democrats in Congress can vote for any healthcare bill they want. How is democracy being limited?

    My comment about Obama was in response to someone claiming Obama was not elected to reform health care.

    lgm, that’s a blatant lie.

    The only claim was that Obama was elected as a moderate – not to push a trojan horse which will lead to socialized medicine.

    And that claim was in response to this comment from YOU:

    Americans voted in Obams and lots of Democratic Congressmen and Senators. Obama’s platform was health care, reducing carbon emissions, etc. If a minority is able to prevent these things Americans voted for from happening, that’s not Democracy.

    Let’s read that last sentence again.

    If a minority is able to prevent these things Americans voted for from happening, that’s not Democracy.

    What the HECK does that mean?

    Who is the “minority?” The Republicans in Congress? How can the Republicans in Congress prevent anything? If not the Republicans, then who? Who is this minority you speak of? Who is preventing Democracy?

87. #87
    On August 8th, 2009 at 11:12 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Why don’t these idiots simply ask their “dear leader” George Soros for the money?

    … of course they probably will get it from him when no one donates. These people are nuttier than fruitcakes.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

88. #88
    On August 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm, mjk said:

    Don’t forget: We are now one nation, one party, one ruler, right?

    So there will be no dissent from the plebes. No free exchange or discussion of Cap and Trade, health care reform, snitchiness.com. We are to trust that the leaders of this nation know best and that they are doing what is best for us.

    I don’t know about any of you, but I don’t trust politicians. Especially ones who act like used car salesmen and get pissed off when people question their motives.

    I am not a zombie. I do not blindly follow the “will” of whomever. I have every right in the world to question motives, question actions, read bills and decide for myself.

    However, if there are people who don’t do that, that is not my problem. I will not stop being myself and excercising my God Given ability to think for myself. I do not dance to the song the Pied piper plays nor do I ever intend to. Even if a bunch of union thugs and childish morons threaten me….