Caution: Obama’s weird scientists at work
Nature reports that all the president’s science experts met last week “mull priorities.” Heading the meeting? Eugenics-embracer and science czar John Holdren.
An elite group of 21 US researchers met publicly for the first time last week as the new advisory panel to US President Barack Obama on scientific and technical matters. But despite an enthusiastic inaugural meeting, it will take time to know how effective the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST) will be.
PCAST has already put together its first report, on the government’s H1N1 pandemic strategy. Other topics likely to be high on its agenda include how science can help the economic recovery, and how best to deliver on Obama’s ambitious climate and energy research portfolio.
Opening the meeting on 6 August, co-chair John Holdren called the council “a spectacular cast of leaders of our science, technology and innovation communities”. Holdren, who is Obama’s chief science adviser, chairs PCAST with Harold Varmus, former director of the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland, and Eric Lander, director of the Broad Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The full group boasts three Nobel laureates and 16 members of the national academies of science, engineering or medicine.
The blogosphere and alternative media are the only sources of skepticism and investigation into Holdren’s radical views. The White House czar’s office continues to stonewall. The MSM continues to yawn.
No matter.
Blogger and Internet journalist Zombie, who first posted extensive PDF images of Holdren’s mass sterilization/forced abortion tract, Ecoscience, is back with a new report on Holdren’s intellectual mentor and colleague, Harrison Brown — whose work I called attention to last month.
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Put this, link this everywhere you can think of.
These people are evil.
Hey–I thought most of the Nazis were dead by now? Did they clone some of them?
It would probably scare the daylights out of us to REALLY know what bho and team are trying to do without us knowing about it. Thanks Michelle, Beck, and so many others who are on top of this.
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Does anyone think that it’s possible that they will try to force everyone to become vaccinated against swine flu? (This is assuming that they will soon have a swine flu vaccine—one’s being tested in Australia, if I’m not mistaken).
Anyway, no way would I want to take some mass produced vaccine, that has been produced that quickly (without long term testing for side effects).
I still don’t buy into the swine flu “pandemic”.
The only weird science I’m interested in is Kelly LeBrock in a red dress…25 years ago.
Hopefully, there are real scientists on this panel who can set Holdren in a corner. Real scientist will have no tim for that wack job.
They only thing I expect out of this group of scientists is complete acceptance of Cloud Ships and the spending of billions on how to take all those cans in the land fill and use them to build a Cray 3 Super Computer.
No, only the ones young enough and/or healthy enough to contribute to the greater good.
Silly. When it starts by calling them “elite” you can be sure that they got a lot of stuff accomplished.
These people all studied under the Aldous Huxley school of thought.
Then up on deck:
Logan’s run, here we come!
Did they do a seance to raise the spirit of Margaret Sanger? Nah…they channel her every day!
spaceycakes wrote:
Operation Paperclip. It’s not just for
breakfastrocket scientists anymore.Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: [dreaming] I am not a Frankenstein. I’m a Fronkensteen. Don’t give me that. I don’t believe in fate. And I won’t say it.
[pauses]
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: All right, you win. You win. I give. I’ll say it. I’ll say it. I’ll say it. DESTINY! DESTINY! NO ESCAPING THAT FOR ME! DESTINY! DESTINY! NO ESCAPING THAT FOR ME!
Wow – Hitler would love these folks! Hitler had a number of mental patients put to death along with the Jews and others he didn’t like.
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Medical Student: Isn’t it true that Darwin preserved a piece of vermicelli in a glass case until, by some extrordinary means, it actually began to move with voluntary motion?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Are you speaking of the worm or the spaghetti?
[the class laughs]
Medical Student: Why, the worm, sir.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Yes, I did read something of that incident when I was a student, but you have to remember that a worm… with very few exceptions… is not a human being.
Medical Student: But wasn’t that the whole basis of your grandfather’s work? The reanimation of dead tissue?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: My grandfather was a very sick man.
Medical Student: But as a Fronkensteen, aren’t you the least bit curious about it? Doesn’t the bringing back to life what was once dead hold any intrigue to you?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: You are talking about the nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind! Dead is dead!
Medical Student: But look at what has been done with hearts and kidneys…
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Hearts and kidneys are tinker toys! I am talking about the central nervous system!
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: I am a scientist, not a philosopher! You have more chance of reanimating this scalpel than you have of mending a broken nervous system!
Medical Student: But what about your grandfather’s work, sir?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: My grandfather’s work was doodoo! I am not interested in death! The only thing that concerns me is the preservation of life!
[jams the scalpel into his leg, lets go of the scalpel and it sticks upright out of his leg, grasps it again, then slowly crosses his legs to block the scalpel from view]
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Class… is… dismissed.
Real actual well qualified expert scientists. Sound the alarm!
These “real scientists” must support euthanasia for the elderly and disabled, otherwise lgm wouldn’t be supporting them.
Kinda like how he doesn’t support any of the scientists (the large number of them) who have stated flatly that Global Warming is a hoax.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: From that fateful day when stinking bits of slime first crawled from the sea and shouted to the cold stars, “I am man.”, our greatest dread has always been the knowledge of our mortality. But tonight, we shall hurl the gauntlet of science into the frightful face of death itself. Tonight, we shall ascend into the heavens. We shall mock the earthquake. We shall command the thunders, and penetrate into the very womb of impervious nature herself.
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Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: [to Igor] Now that brain that you gave me. Was it Hans Delbruck’s?
Igor: [pause, then] No.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Ah! Very good. Would you mind telling me whose brain I DID put in?
Igor: Then you won’t be angry?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: I will NOT be angry.
Igor: Abby Someone.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: [pause, then] Abby Someone. Abby who?
Igor: Abby Normal.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: [pause, then] Abby Normal?
Igor: I’m almost sure that was the name.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: [chuckles, then] Are you saying that I put an abnormal brain into a seven and a half foot long, fifty-four inch wide GORILLA?
[grabs Igor and starts throttling him]
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein: Is that what you’re telling me?
I’m sure they are all talking to their fellow
weather priests, sorry, I mean “climate change scientists” in the UN to save the planet in the next four months.Right now, their agenda is rather fuzzy. If they try to dabble in intrusive population control or stick their hands deep into our pockets, that would be the time to blow the whistle. As Michelle says, pay attention.
Rogue, you writting a biography on Michelle O?
lgm said:
Yeah!! To Wit:
“The science “czar,” John Holdren, says: “The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth will ultimately develop into a human being.” He also wrote about putting sterilants in drinking water for population control.”
Enough said on this clown.
Anyone know if Peter Singer is on the panel? He’d fit right in with Holdren.
Legal immunity set for swine flu vaccine makers
By MIKE STOBBE (AP) – Jul 17, 2009
ATLANTA — The last time the government embarked on a major vaccine campaign against a new swine flu, thousands filed claims contending they suffered side effects from the shots. This time, the government has already taken steps to head that off.
Vaccine makers and federal officials will be immune from lawsuits that result from any new swine flu vaccine, under a document signed by Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, government health officials said Friday.
Since the 1980s, the government has protected vaccine makers against lawsuits over the use of childhood vaccines. Instead, a federal court handles claims and decides who will be paid from a special fund.
The document signed by Sebelius last month grants immunity to those making a swine flu vaccine, under the provisions of a 2006 law for public health emergencies. It allows for a compensation fund, if needed.
The government takes such steps to encourage drug companies to make vaccines, and it’s worked. Federal officials have contracted with five manufacturers to make a swine flu vaccine. First identified in April, swine flu has so far caused about 263 deaths, according to numbers released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Friday.
The CDC said more than 40,000 Americans have had confirmed or probable cases, but those are people who sought health care. It’s likely that more than 1 million Americans have been sickened by the flu, many with mild cases.
The virus hits younger people harder that seasonal flu, but so far hasn’t been much more deadly than the strains seen every fall and winter. But health officials believe the virus could mutate to a more dangerous form, or at least contribute to a potentially heavier flu season than usual.
“We do expect there to be an increase in influenza this fall,” with a bump in cases perhaps beginning earlier than normal, said Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.
On Friday, the Food and Drug Administration approved the regular winter flu vaccine, a final step before shipments to clinics and other vaccination sites could begin.
The last time the government faced a new swine flu virus was in 1976. Cases of swine flu in soldiers at Fort Dix, N.J., including one death, made health officials worried they might be facing a deadly pandemic like the one that killed millions around the world in 1918 and 1919.
Federal officials vaccinated 40 million Americans during a national campaign. A pandemic never materialized, but thousands who got the shots filed injury claims, saying they suffered a paralyzing condition called Guillain-Barre Syndrome or other side effects.
“The government paid out quite a bit of money,” said Stephen Sugarman, a law professor who specializes in product liability at the University of California at Berkeley.
Vaccines aren’t as profitable as other drugs for manufacturers, and without protection against lawsuits “they’re saying, ‘Do we need this?’” Sugarman said.
The move to protect makers of a swine flu didn’t go over well with Paul Pennock, a prominent New York plaintiffs attorney on medical liability cases. The government will likely call on millions of Americans to get the vaccinations to prevent the disease from spreading, he noted.
“If you’re going to ask people to do this for the common good, then let’s make sure for the common good that these people will be taken care of if something goes wrong,” Pennock said.
AP Medical Writer Lauran Neergaard contributed to this report from Washington.
On the Net:
CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/
Maybe this’ll be Holdren’s chance to put sterilants into the system after all…..
lgm – let me clue you in on something. Being the head of a “scientific” organization does not make one a scientist – it only reveals good political skills. Receiving a Nobel prize is also not a very good indicator of science – it indicates good salesmanship.
Nothing in that list of people indicates that any of them knows the first thing about real science.
Progressive Counsel Authorizing Selective Terminations
It’s science…wierd science…the discussion is over. The science is settled on the matter…whatever “it” is! If the progressive supporters/proponents of the science says it is fact, then it must be the truth. There is no room for debate on settled science. None. Nada.
Opening the door for “calm discussion” is to open the door for misinformation, deceit, and demonization of set science. If you don’t believe it, then step out of the way, and shut up….So sayeth the Obama; Savior, Soothsayer, and Omniscient Provider to all the downtrodden.
…questioning the science of “The One”, is not only RACIST, it is UN-AMERICAN, and will not be allowed to continue…until the government is retaken by patriots who believe in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
November 2010 can not come soon enough.
but it is a good indicator that the Nobel board can be bought…
Liberals like lgm and snooty faux conservatives like Michael Brooks or Peggy Noonan are so impressed with credentials — Nobel and Pulitzer prizes, ivy league degrees, appointments to this board or that committee. They look no further than the credentials to assume a well-qualified status. Conversely for these crapweasels, individuals who do not possess a blue-ribbon credential are not well-qualified for anything despite what they may have actually achieved.
I’ve seen plenty of unqualified people who possess what appear on the surface to be respectable credentials, say a Harvard law degree and a bachelor’s degree from Columbia, to know the credentials listed in what lgm referenced don’t guarantee someone is well-qualified. They might be, but without further details we don’t know.
My take is that anyone who would be willing to be in the same room with Holdren for more that 10 seconds (the time it would take to make a quick exit) is a cut from the same cloth of whackjobbery that he is.
thanks, Member-VRWC. Lovely word. Also going in my book.
lgm:”real live scientist” means practically nothing. It has been known for years by those of us in the health care industry that actually pay attention, that at least ONE-THIRD of all “medical research” is fraudulant, because of outright false/fabricated data, or by the researcher just being bought by those interested in a specific outcome. Hans Sayle (spelling?) was the only person ever to win two Nobel Prizes & his famous statement was “half the fraud in science is commited by medical men”. Those scientists you’re in such a swoon about may not be any more ethical, unbiased, or clean of corruption as any hack in any field. You must be as gullible as a new born baby seal. Here’s a last concept for you: “critical thinking is always considered cynicism by those without the capacity for clear thought.”
I will when they actually name someone who’s not part of some sorry-ass government or government-subsidized excuse for a “think-tank”.
Holdren isn’t qualified to head up a fishing expedition at the Camden Aquarium, let alone any high-level advisory panel that the socialist-in-chief should never have started in the first place.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
What if the “vaccine” is actually intended to infect people?
Is that “Tin Foil Hat” material?
Well, the government has already provided legal coverage to the vaccine manufacturers for any “unintended consequences”, and someone spent the money to literally carve the following in stone:
How do you think they plan to reduce the world population from 6+ Billion down to under 0.5 Billion?
You know they want to, and it’s probably not limited to mass sterilization and forced abortion.
If you have a DVD copy of “The Matrix”, go to the scene where Thomas Anderson is in the interrogation room with Agent Smith (roughly 18 minutes into the film).
Keep in mind that this movie was released in 1999…two years before 9/11/2001.
Watch that scene and take note of the correlation between “bringing a known terrorist to justice” and “What good is a phone call if you cannot speak?” (implying the removal of your 1st amendment rights)
Now back up and pause it at the 18:20 mark (at least that’s what it is for me). It is part of Thomas Anderson’s “file” and it shows his passport with a capitol dome and “Capital City USA”. It’s upside down, but can you make out the expiration date of Thomas Anderson’s (Neo’s) passport?
I have to admit that this freaks me out…
My copy of the DVD was purchased after 9/11/2001, so I can’t be 100% certain that this image was in the original movie.
Can someone who owns a copy of this DVD purchased before 9/11/2001 confirm that it is in fact there?
It would seem to be a mighty big “coincidence” to juxtapose that date, the word “terrorist”, and a referrence to losing free speech (a criticism of the PATRIOT act) all together in a movie scene produced two years before 9/11. I don’t know what to make of this, but it would seem to indicate there were people in the US who had foreknowledge of a planned terrorist attack on the Capitol Building in “Capital City USA” (Washington, D.C.) on 9/11/2001.
And the same people who made that movie also made “V”, where a key part of the plot involves the government intentionally infecting people with a virus…
Spacyecakes #27 has a good point. We all know Gore received the Nobel for his little propaganda film. What is not as well known is that when Watson & Crick was awarded the prize for their discovery of the double helix, it was actually the work of a woman. Watson & Crick stole it & represented it as their own. Yes, they were working on it, and were close. However, she got there first. This was known among the scientific community at the time, but Watson & Crick won anyways. Integrity in science? More like politics, greed & corruption.
I am quite sure “Dr.” Holdren would have been very much at home in “Dr.” Mengele’s laboratory.
To refer to Holdren as a “real scientist” simply displays a stunning lack of intellect or honesty or both on the part of the commentator…
These people seek raw power to reshape the USA and then the world in their twisted and evil image.
In several of his later works Michael Crichton explored the themes of corruption in the scientific world. Read Airframe, Next, Prey and State of Fear and take a look at his notes after the story ends.
Anyone who assumes “scientists” are selfless knights riding to our rescue probably also believes Obama is “post-racial” and that Olbermann is “fair and balanced” as opposed to “fairly unbalanced.”
Your welcome. Feel free to use it whenever appropriate.
And I always include an “h” with wacko or wackjob, because it’s my belief that people so described could also do with a good whacking!
Correction: “V for Vendetta“, not “V”.
Hard for me to believe these idiots would want to kill their tax base. But then, they are crazy.
Kudafa, some corrections. The man you quoted is Hans Selye. The following are double Nobelists in science: Marie Curie (physics and chemistry), John Bardeen (physics) and Frederick Sanger (chemistry). That having been said, there is a history of Nobel scientists going off the rails. Philipp von Lenard (physics) and Johannes Stark (physics) were both card-carrying Nazis, while Alexis Carrel (medicine) finished his career as the health minister in the Vichy government. Fritz Haber (chemistry) directed poison gas attacks against the allies during World War I and Werner Forssman (medicine) took part in Nazi medical experiments. There is more, but I’ll keep this posting short.
Happyscrapper, you’re giving the Liberals credit for thinking ahead. They’ve done this before, why would they do it now?
If we are heading to a Logan’s Run type of society – I’m going to be the old man with all the cats – just sayin’…
Kinda sounds like the “State Science Institute” in Atlas Shrugged. Hmm.
off topic…
go check out HR-45…this must be stopped…
That was the first thing I thought of when I read this post. “There is no sanctuary…”
Probably.
As for “real” scientists – I agree most of them must have the unborn, newly born, and elderly in the crosshairs or Obama wouldn’t embrace them so enthusiastically.
Yay for eugenics! The thing lgm forgets is that one day he’ll get old, get sick. And all those “real scientists” who chomp at the bit to turn him into fertilizer won’t seem so glorious then.
the abortion rate for babies with Down syndrome is well over 90%, when prenatally diagnosed. Already, “science” is selectively breeding out the “infirm”.
The pieces are in place,, the PEOPLE are in place, that seem to predict a lot. Zeke Emmanuel, John Holdren, Kathleen Sebelius….these are people with STRONG ties to eugenics and/abortion. John Holdren refers to The Challenge of Man’s Future in nearly every work he publishes. I would never want Dr Mengele to give me advice on healthcare, and I dont want this crew advising me on healthcare either. The thing is, it is worth knowing WHO will be calling the shots when it comes down to deciding who gets what care. Do you really want people who are avowed eugenicists having that power? Dr Tiller thrived under Kathleen Sebellius’ refusal to hold him accountable. Morality lost out bigtime. Who will close their eyes when Holder and Emmanuel start making pronouncements that are bad for our kids? Why is it that Obama’s team is made up of such hardcore critics of DIFFERENCE? Maybe its a fluke, but my radar is going ballistic.
Holdren stands to be making some BIG decisions when it comes to science and HEALTH issues. What makes him tick? Where is his head? The man he credits with forming his life views and career choices was a self proclaimed eugenicist. Some of his writings:
Is there anything that can be done to prevent the long-range degeneration of human stock? Unfortunately, at the present time there is little, other than to prevent breeding in persons who present glaring deficiencies clearly dangerous to society and which are known to be of a hereditary nature. Thus we could sterilize or in other ways discourage the mating of the feeble-minded. We could go further and systematically attempt to prune from society, by prohibiting them from breeding, persons suffering from serious inheritable forms of physical defects, such as congenital deafness, dumbness, blindness, or absence of limbs.
Although there are admittedly numerous individual fluctuations, it does appear that the feeble-minded, the morons, the dull and backward, and the lower-than-average persons in our society are outbreeding the superior ones at the present time. Indeed, it has been estimated that the average Intelligence Quotient of Western population as a whole is probably decreasing significantly with each succeeding generation.
Priorities for artificial insemination could be given to healthy women of high intelligence whose ancestors possessed no dangerous genetic defects. Conversely, priorities for abortions could be given to less intelligent persons of biologically unsound stock.
Such steps would undoubtedly contribute substantially to a slowing down of species deterioration. But it is clear that they would by no means be sufficient. A broad eugenics program would have to be formulated which would aid in the establishment of policies that would encourage able and healthy persons to have several offspring and discourage the unfit from breeding at excessive rates.
prioritize healthcare based on ABILITY. Clear as a bell, isn’t it? and we want the guy who thinks this idea is marvy to be advising
ourthe President?At last a president who is committed to science. Now that the Dems are in power we will finally get more attention paid to the long neglected areas of pyramid power, aroma therapy and personal auras. Plus we will at last get a definitive proof to show that metal subjected to extreme heat will not soften and collapse.
Any hint of what Obama intends to do with NASA?
They will be given a new mission: building and maintaining a huge solar shield to maintain the earth temperature at a balmy 75 degrees all year round.
How do you reconcile the fact that “Real actual well qualified expert scientists” (sic) are on both sides of the “climate change” argument? Is everyone’s position valid simply because they are a “real actual well qualified expert scientist” (sic)?
Then reconcile the fact that Al Gore is a “Nobel Laureate”, and got C- and D’s in the few science courses he took in college (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A37397-2000Mar18).
Peter Singer is the Ira W. DeCamp Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University, and laureate professor at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics (CAPPE), University of Melbourne. His theories are well known, advocating “quality of life” over “sanctity of life”, and author of the NYTimes article “Why we must ration health care” (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/magazine/19healthcare-t.html). Should he be an Obama adviser, since he is a “real actual well qualified expert scientist”?
conservativesRus said (#25):
So you are a better judge of science than the Nobel Prize committee. Right. Which of the recent science recipients (hint: this means physics, chemistry, biology, not peace or economics) do you think was undeserving?
Dimsdale said (#51):
There is exactly one real expert qualified scientist on the denial side of climate change, Professor Linzen of MIT. There are other good scientists who argue against global warming, but they are not experts in climate science.
Riiight.
Because AlGore is.
nbarry #40. Thanks for the correction about Seyle. Don’t understand how i could have made such a mistake. It is a cruel bit of terrible irony that Haber, himself a Jew, had his work in chemistry come back to end the lives of so many fellow Jews in WW2.
If I have posted repeatedly, my apologies, but I can’t see the results of my posts for some reason.
nbarry said (#40)
Stark was indeed a great physicist. The Stark effect is a fundamental early confirmation of quantum mechanics. Unfortunately, being a great scientist doesn’t make you a good person. Even Isaac Newton was a jerk (though not a Nazi).
I don’t know about Lenard. Is he the Lenard of “Lenard Jones potentials”?
One expert? Are you nuts? Would you like a list?
Define “expert” so I may apply it to the global warming enthusiasts.
On August 12th, 2009 at 3:46 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
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