The illustrated guide to Obamacare human props
Little Julia Hall is just the latest in-the-tank questioner with Obama campaign/Democrat ties to turn up “randomly” at presidential health care forums.
Here’s your illustrated guide to Obamacare human props.
In July, Obama hosted a White House citizen town hall that featured three face-to-face questions. The lucky three?
*Debby Smith. You remember her. She choked back tears as she talked of her battle with kidney cancer, her joblessness, and her lack of insurance. Obama hugged the trembling woman and dubbed her “Exhibit A” for his massive entitlement program.
Debby Smith, however, is no ordinary patient. While she may be “unemployed,” she has been rather busy working for the Obama campaign – as a volunteer for the DNC’s Organizing for America. Smith also identified herself as a worker for the Virginia Organizing Project, which has been coordinating lobbying trips and health care forums with HCAN. Yes, that same HCAN. In December, Smith moderated a “a community discussion on health care issues” in Appalachia, Virginia and told her local paper that the meeting “would be reported back to former Sen. Tom Daschle, who has been directed by President Elect Barack Obama to form a committee to report on health care issues.”
*Jason Rosenbaum. Rosenbaum works for the Washington, D.C.-based Health Care for America Now (HCAN). That’s the K Street Astroturf outfit with a $40 million budget to lobby for government-run health care linked to left-wing billionaire George Soros. And yes, the same HCAN directing its mob to “drown out” opponents at town hall meetings.
*SEIU member. Yes, wonder of wonders, this randomly chosen questioner just happened to be a member of the Purple Shirt Army that poured $80 million in independent expenditures into Democrat coffers, made 4.4 million phone calls for Obama, sent out more than 2.5 million Obama mailings during the 2008 campaign, and dispatched thugs to drown out town hall protesters.
Here’s how the tough exchange went down:
Q Hi, Mr. President. I’m a member of SEIU and I’m down here in Fairfax County working on Change That Works. What can I do, as a member of the union, to help you with your reform bill?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate the question..
Of course he did.
In March, the White House conducted a similar health reform town hall with more human Obamacare props (full transcript here). Five lucky questioners were chosen “randomly” to talk directly with the president in the East Room about their concerns, including:
*Linda Bock. She’s a registered nurse — and a card-carrying member of the SEIU in Prince George’s County, Maryland.
*Carlos Del Toro. Via WaPo: “In 2007, Del Toro stood as a Democratic candidate for the Virginia House of Delegates, but did not win. A supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic presidential primaries, he backed Obama against McCain in the general, endorsing him in an Oct. 24, 2008 op-ed in the Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star.”
*Tom Sawner. I’ll let him speak for himself:
Sir, I’m Tom Sawner. I’m a service-disabled veteran, small-business owner in Arlington, Virginia. My company, Educational Options, works with public schools. We serve more than 200,000 at-risk kids within public schools, providing online content, partnering with teachers, and I was honored to serve on your education platform committee.
THE PRESIDENT: Wonderful.
*Bonnee Breese. Public school teacher, prominent AFT union member, and member of the 11,626-person Pennsylvania for Obama page on Facebook.
*Sergio Salmeron. Democrat National Committee member and community blogger at Organizing for America.
Obama World: Land of Amazing Coincidences!
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Remember, people. It’s the Chicago way:
David Axelrod has long been known for his political magic. Through his AKP&D Message & Media consultancy, the campaign veteran has advised a succession of Democratic candidates since 1985, and he’s now chief strategist for Senator Barack Obama’s bid for President. But on the down low, Axelrod moonlights in the private sector.
From the same address in Chicago’s River North neighborhood, Axelrod operates a second business, ASK Public Strategies, that discreetly plots strategy and advertising campaigns for corporate clients to tilt public opinion their way. He and his partners consider virtually everything about ASK to be top secret, from its client roster and revenue to even the number of its employees. But customers and public records confirm that it has quarterbacked campaigns for the Chicago Children’s Museum, ComEd, Cablevision, and AT&T.
ASK’s predilection for operating in the shadows shows up in its work. On behalf of ComEd and Comcast, the firm helped set up front organizations that were listed as sponsors of public-issue ads. Industry insiders call such practices “Astroturfing,” a reference to manufacturing grassroots support. Alderman Brendan Reilly of the 42nd Ward, who has been battling the Children’s Museum’s relocation plans, describes ASK as “the gold standard in Astroturf organizing. This is an emerging industry, and ASK has made a name for itself in shaping public opinion and manufacturing public support.”
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With luck like this, just think what our Dear Leader could do in Vegas.
Not surprised, with David “King Astroturf” Axelrod managing all of Obama’s appearances.
Too bad the media just doesn’t seem all that interested.
I can see a full ride scholarship to Harvard in the future for Eleven-year-old Julia Hall.
I think that he is coming to realize that his is a failing direction. Here comes Bill Clinton II. All he needs is a woman in his life.
They are so stupid because they refuse to realize that the genie is out of the bottle and it isn’t going back. Americans know all they need to about this bill and he can stack every meeting from here on out it won’t matter.
Wake up Mr I Won you are about to lose this battle because there are D’s who actually want to come back in 2010 and they will fight for themselves harder then you.
His use of SEIU human props is surpassed only by the number of straw men who support the status quo, can’t stand change, just want to ‘break’ Obama, etc.
He thinks his opponents are as phoney as his supporters. Just what is real in Obama land?
Reminds me of what I studied in World War Two History: Mussolini and the Facists had their black shirts; Hitler and the Nazis, brown shirts; Imperial Japan, the Black Dragon Organisation. And yes, they all, too, had “random” questioners ask the “tough” questions to their respective leaders/candidates. The result? 50 million dead, trillions of dollars of damage, and a nation forever scarred by the use of Nuclear Weapons. And tbhis is all not to mention the tragedies of Communism in Russia, China, Cuba, VietNam, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Angola, Mongolia, Nepal, et. al. ad nauseum….
Don’t these people EVER learn?
NOPE!
I can’t imagine how miserable they must be inside, unless of course they have no insides.
Eleven-year-old Julia Hall, obviously not her 1sr exchange with dishonesty, she’s primed for indoctrinating her school mates if she hasn’t already. Isn’t that child abuse, by the way?
Even when the economy is tanking, with no end in sight, and there is literally panic in the streets, there will be these people who will say “if for not Obama, it would be 100% WORSE.”
But don’t just peg these mindless drones. The “news” media is as much in the tank for this idiotic administration as the “simple folk,” most of whom are functionally illiterate. I blame the hoards of “journalists” who simply repeat what the Obama administration tell them to “report” more any any of ‘em. The only thing that these props know is what the media tells them.
BTW, how much would any of you want to bet that every bit of this was rehearsed beforehand. THE ONE can’t take any chances of blowing it as he’s done so often in the past.
Who will turn up next? Obama’s illegal alien auntie?
I suppose now you’re going to tell me that reality TV is staged too?!
Truthfully, no matter who is in the White House, their audiences are always stacked with supporters. The difference is that the MSMs like to mention the audience is stacked when it’s a republican.
Oh phooey! And that little Julia was THIS close to changing my entire philosophy on rationed health care.
If Dear Leader gets Hanna Montana at his next health care show, like, I’ll just be sooooo psyched!
I am getting closer and closer to the point of saying “we blew it”.
This team was allowed into power because we were too lazy or indifferant to care. I did as much as I could, but it wasn’t enough.
I love this country, but for me it’s almost time to hunker down, work on protecting my family, and letting the fools destroy each other.
…..almost…..
What they don’t realize is that people aren’t just angry about the health care bill. They aren’t just angry about the ridiculous spending. They’re angry about not being truly listened to. We’re tired of sending these guys to DC and then getting form letters in response to our letters and calls. Then they pull this Kabuki theater crap to make it look like they’re listening. We’re not buying it anymore. We’re fed up. This Congress and Administration has done one good thing – their haste and over-reaching has made taxpayers realize that both parties have been doing this BS for years and enough is enough!
I wouldn’t say that. We did do all that we could, but we were up against a national media that for years did nothing but vilify the GOP and the president. When Obama came on stage, they used everything they had to support him even if it meant not reporting on things to outright lies. The people bought into it. That’s pretty hard to compete against. Now, that the people see what really happened, things will be different in 2010. Sometimes people need to learn the hard way.
hmmmm, something fishy is going on. Flag@whitehouse.gov here I come!
I guess the standing ovation Obama got was “spontaneous” too. And the “Yes We Can” chanting. How stupid does he think we are? This entire campaign to shove socialized health”care” down our throats has been carefully (but not very effectively) staged. And the left are criticizing US for our “sponsored” rallies? Sigh. Oh, well, at least he is fulfilling one of his promises…transparency. We can see right through this idiot. And no matter how planned out these things are, he still manages to say something stupid. Using the Post Office as an example? Oh really, Mr. President? Did you really mean to use that as a prop to sell your government-run health plan? Oooops!!!
When the merits of the program won’t sell it – all the staging in the world won’t sell a program which still doesn’t address the core problems with health insurance costs. BHO’s problem is that there are to merits to any of his programs.
The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise. Pass it on.
I was talking to my daughter last night, she is in the Air Force, and she said something funny and I thought I would share. Now, they are all 20 somethings and they all are saying that watching Dear Leader is like watching him in Joker makeup and miming the song The Beautiful People by Marilyn Manson.
That town hall was the epitome of phoniness. Obama is like the Wizard of Oz . . . when you strip away his facade there’s nothing left but a frightened little man trying hold things together and appear omnipotent.
The people that believe any of these staged vents probably sit on their butts 6 hours a day watching TV and believe that what they are seeing is real, or at least something close. The boob tube has ruined so many peoples ability to think for themselves it is amazing they manage to survive when they leave the house. I suppose the reason so many want more govt. is to protect them from the harsh realities of life that don’t exist in their TV fantasy land.
This is really what is going to happen:
School mate of Julia Hall: “Gee you looked like a dork on TV.”
Julia Hall: ” Ya I know. I didn’t want to do it, but my mother made me.”
FYI,
Registration is open on HA this morning.
L
Waddya expect from a narcassist? We’ve always said he is an empty suit so this is no surprise.
Faux News Alert!!!
Michael Jacksons Doctor just appointed End of Life Health Czar!!!!!
film at 11:00
That “children’s museum” in Chicago was another enormous tax-supported boondoggle the Daley administration wanted, in spite of public opinion against it. Daley wanted to build a “children’s museum” on public land, and at this point I think he’s been thwarted in his attempt. The city of Chicago has spent millions over the years fighting off special interests who want to gobble up public lakefront land, many “interests” involving high government officials. Remember: Axelrod was Daley’s “fixer” in Chicago, and was loaned to Obama during the campaign to spread the “Chicago Way” far and wide.
His events are predictable and even the most passionate believers in everything BO here at my place of employment in LA are beginning to tune him out!
Look how well-dressed they are!
Heh
This is kind of taking the concept of surrounding yourself with “yes men” to a new level.
Nobody tell him–it would be too much of a shock. But we we trying to transfer BroBama to Ice Road Truckers or Deadliest Catch–Bidet Biden and Botox Nancy too.
Now I am off to the garage to make the signs that say mean things about people who help people. I am hoping to get on Cable TV.
I wish somebody took pictures (and posted them online) of the busloads of SEIU astro-turfers arriving in Portsmouth and receiving the buttons and signs.
Woo hoo! Free Propofol for EVERYBODY!!!
sometimes , the tiniest pebble can bring down the avalanche.
MM, THIS needs to be viral.
I find very little difference between David Axelrod and Leni Riefenstahl.
Everything this administration does is an exercise in deceiptful packaging. If they were selling food products, they would be brought up on charges by the FDA.
And again (broken record) the only reason they are allowed to get away with this kind of nonsense is that the media is in bed with them.
Staging for this empty suit has been going on for months. Styrofoam Greek columns bring back any memories? I knew from the get-go, when I first observed his head swinging left-to-right speeches that something was wrong, even prior to the now standard TOTUS references. Reading the words of a speech is not the same as understanding the words. Regardless of the staging, practicing and stacked audience Q&A, time and time again this poser still cannot deliver a cohesive thought on his own without screwing up. Sorry Mr. President, but staging is not necessary if your message is passionate and truthful.
props and bs. zero and his lackeys young and old. this so called town hall meeting was a joke. substance and credibilty was non existent. zero tries to cover up the crap, but the stentch is always there.
an article (from whom and where i don’t know) was a q&a about obamacare. one q was does the bill have a death bureau as portrayed by palin and the right. a was no. q well what’s all the fuss about? a the bill contains medicare payments to doctors to counsel end of life issues with patients, and it was written by the democrat representative from oregon. now check me if i’m wrong, but doesn’t oregon have euthanasia laws no doubt endorsed by this human pile of feces. so what is the counsel “gee, you’re going to die and need to get your affairs in order.” “well doc, how long do i have?” “well that depends, if we pay for this $250k operation, maybe another 5 – 10 years, or if you take this free pill maybe another 5 – 10 minutes, but the odds we will allow a 70 year old to have that expensive operation is slim to none. btw tomorrow the cost of the pill will be $5k which we will deduct from your bank account.”
How long before you finish the sequel? By the end of this administration, there could be a whole library of books on corruption.
Reminds me of the King novel – The Shining — The Book would be titled, Democrats are Corruption and the whole book would be just those 3 words for say a 1000 pages?
I’m not surprised at any of this. If you think about it, these are people who ‘self select’ to participate, and you have to be on a mailing list to even know the event is going to take place.
In other words, these are people interested in politics at some level, and know someone, or are known by and invited by someone. Seeing an audience that has an affiliation with one side or the other, and seeing that side over represented is a natural result.
Conservatives by nature and inclination wouldn’t presume to infiltrate or dominate an opposition sponsored event. It’s the leftists activists who have done that for years.
If conservatives do attend, it is as silent observers.
Shills. That’s all they are. The liberals will say “Boooosh dunnit” but that doesn’t fly. If he did, at least he was good at it. Obambi can’t even make his staged press conferences look real: he reads off the prepared list of handpicked reporters with their handpicked questions.
The Obamateur lied, America died.
For the first time in a while, more Americans are paying attention, and the politicians who fail to take heed will eventually be swept away. As Bob Dylan sang, “The Times They are a Changing.”
Obama’s fifth column.
Poor “Joe the Plumber” was out of his league.
I’m thinking that it’s nearly time, due to the unwarranted negativity being thrown at Our Leader over DeathCare, Cap&Tax, AmeriKKKaLast speeches overseas and now planted questioners at meetings, for Mr. Axelrod to recommend a good old-fashioned war with Canada. We could take ‘em in a couple of days, they have no weapons at all so no one would get hurt, and we could annex just those parts that are rightfully American because the people, if not being held down by the Frenchies, would GLADLY be Americans and both look and talk like us. We could then lay claim to the Canadian health-care system, which we all know is fanTABulous, and we could name it Mutual of Obama. Catchy, yes? I could get behind THAT. /sarc/
ajmontana–snort!
The question dying to ask itself is:
If Obama’s policies are so bloody brilliant, why does the Democrat Party have to fake the popular support, not just occasionally, but every time?
Let the Impostor in Chief continue his charade.
The facade is cracking around the edges as they lose polling points daily to outraged Americans who know what time it is regarding the “debate”.
With Medicare facing imminent decapitation, the Impostor in Chief is about to alienate the seniors who vote in congressional elections.
Say goodnite Dhimmicrats. Lack of substance and the inability to read your own legislation, so you can sell it to your constituencies, combines now reactively with the smell of yourselves wafting out of every Townhall nook and cranny with the Magic Kenyan unable to contain the stench.
My fellow patriots, stay positive and keep faxing your congressional reps and senators. Let them know their butts are on the line if they intend on backing this pork-addicted tinpot wannabe dictator.
Every time I see the Magic Kenyan walking with “world leaders” or opening his pie hole for some feckless sound byte, I have the same thought “He is going to fail. All we have to do is resist his sham voodoo.”
The Magic Kenyan is out of tricks. He should have been careful about what he wished for. He got it and it is eating his free lunch.
MObama? Get ready to move sweetheart. He has done quite enough to get impeached.
I’ll take butter and strawberry jam on my toast, thank you.
Bear1909 out
Anyone can win with a stacked deck and a friendly dealer.
Not only that, but when the donkeys have the White House and both houses of Congress, why do they need public support or Republican votes to do anything? Why couldn’t they just go ahead and pass the bill?
I see predictions of failure but I see the heath care bill passing the house. They have the votes. If every republican votes against it, how many democrats have to defect for it to fail? My guess is more than will. The ones that do will be selectively given permission by Pelosi.
The Senate is a different story. Has the Senate passed cap & tax yet?
…”the AARP is on board”, another blatant lie from the Pretender. The President of AARP disclaimed Obama’s assertion saying that AARP has not endorsed any part of the OBAMACARE.. FOXNEWS Radio.
Pathetic. The MM crowd wouldn’t know an actual issue if it came out of the mouth of Rush Limbaugh himself.
The fact is that our health care is fantastically inefficient. It costs twice as much as those of other advanced countries and is no better. This is the fact independent of what your oppo-researchers turn up about a person asking a question at a townhall.
lgm said:
Mr. Potato Head, Mr. Potato Head is that why people from Canada come here for treatment? Why people from UK are telling all of us not to go down this road? These Talking points from Huffy Puffy post have already been discounted. Dream up something else.
Words fail me. Facts fail you.
Care to share some of those facts you speak of?
And WTF is an “oppo-researcher”? Something playing on the word “opposition”, maybe?
Can’t help but recall over a decade ago there was a TV show called “American Gladiators” – stupid early “reality” TV. They had crowd noise on the soundtrack but if you looked closely at the wide shots it was clear that the stands were filled with cardboard silhouettes – grey human shapes stuffed in the seats with a few family members in the front row.
How long before we’ll see town halls in this format. Why bother with real people….they’re not inviting real people as it is.
I had to look it up.
Democrats = 259
Republicans = 176
Doesn’t that mean about 84 democrats have to jump ship. That will never happen. You will probably see 82 jump to protect their behinds which is pure deception. Hmm. Democrats deceiving the public. Who would have thought?
All this August stuff is purely for show to demonize further oppostion to any of the democrats plans. They will pass this.
Hey dufus,
It costs twice as much. If a Doctor in another country can live in high style off of $10,000 a year because of differences in the cost of living between countries, then he doesn’t have to charge the same amount. Do the math simpleton.
It is no better. You have no facts to support this statement other than your biased personal views. You want it to be this way so it fits your narrative. I contend that the health care in America is extremely better than in other countries. Our Doctors are very well trained and our facilities are top notch. I would rather go to a doctor here than one in Nigeria or France or even… Canada.
Hmmm. I wonder how many Canadian Doctors went to Medical school in the US to get the best medical training and how many are leaving Canada to practice in the US? Who’s the pathetic one here?
lgm says:
“Fantastically inefficient”? Tell that to my father-in-law and my father’s wife who both have had hip replacement’s in the past 18 months. In and out of surgery within hours and walking within days, now moving with freedom and pain-free, with a co-pay that is more like a good investment in their health than some pre-set government annual premium of 7 per cent of their fixed incomes PLUS a co-payment on a surgery that there may not be doctors to perform.
Also, lgm, you complete in-the-tank neo-fascist hairbrain, health care is a made up term for bureaucratically challenged ngo’s and washington toilet bowl politicians like Pelosi Galore to bandy about in order to obfuscate what is right about US MEDICAL CARE.
But this is lost on you. The Lefties want to get the government into the health insurance business and in the process ruin the medical care industry.
It has yet to be proven that government run “health care” can work on the masses. And it has yet to be proven that profit incentivized medical care *DOES NOT* work.
Maybe if you got your side of the aisle to just start dealing with facts, nix the fuzzy nomenclature, and tell YOUR PRESIDENT to shut his lying pie hole for ten minutes, there might actually be an honest debate about the future of medical care, the medical industry, medical research, and a host of allied issues which would keep the US population as one of the best-served in the world.
And while you are at it, why not take on your neo-fascist cronies on the blogs you infest and challenge them to “advocate” cutting off medical services at US hospitals for Mexican nationals who are in the country illegally. That is fantastically inefficient as you say: so why not deal with the facts and help your country out in the process.
Bear1909 out.
words.fail.me.
oh, wait. Check that.
Words.fail.lgm.
I’m holding out on the hope the “health care” bill wont make it through both houses of congress by end of the year.
I am sensing a futher financial meltdown calamity before the bill is passed, on a massive scale which will make the last one look like a hiccup.
That will change the political wind significantly for dems and pubbies alike as the pressure to show some kind of fiscal constraint– even by honoring the old adage ‘if it aint broke dont fixit’– in front of key voter blocks (elderly and privately insured) who will be most dramatically affected by this turd-in-the-punch-bowl “health care” bill.
On paper the “votes” may be there. But there are political insiders who are on talk radio saying that support can be eroded over the next few weeks.
Public opinion has swung against King Rat Bastard’s agenda on medical care.
He is losing points daily. And once he loses the elderly voters (who tend to vote in mid-term elections)that will have an impact on the final vote on this pig of a bill.
It’s not over til it’s over.
Bear1909 out.
T-Bone said:
Very few. The US is a new importer of doctors. We train fewer than we need. We keep (almost) all we train.
A reasonable number. You can find it on the google if you’re persistent.
bear1909 said (#63):
Hip replacements are great. And they are just as good in Europe, only they cost half the price. Remember, the price is more than the co-pay.
Hey LGM, I did look it up. That was the point. And I know the reasons too.
Only 42 Democrats have to go against Pelosi if the Republicans are 100% opposed. You need 218 to pass a bill.
I would still bet against us. All Democrat politicians are rotten by nature. When the chips are down they can be counted on to do the wrong thing.
lgm said:
Crap!! I have been to Singapore and 99% of their Doctors are either trained in the US or all of their advanced medical Training is done here in the US. Try again.
Obama has learned the wrong lesson from Arlen Specter’s wild get-togethers; rather than concede that maybe his plan needs additional work, he is trying to stage his own shows of support to make his sheeple THINK that he really cares about them.
lgm do you think his town hall was real,honest? You had to have tickets to get in. Has he looked at the bill?
Save money, have split screen and he can ask HIMSELF QUESTIONS!
LGM, Are you including the money taken from peoples paychecks in places like Norway, Sweden, Freance, etc that subsidize the direct out of pocket costs of health care? Norway, Cuba, Holland, and Sweden take about 1/2 of your paycheck in income taxes. Denmark takes about 63%. And with payroll taxes those countries take more than 70% of what people earn. Proper math of costs includes all those variables as well.
And I know you didn’t account for those if you make a claim that other countries cost less. Factor that in and then tell me other countires cost less. You can’t do it. Your claim is false and misleading. I am reporting you to the white house so expect a tax audit next year and possible FBI surveillance.
Astroturfing at its very best.
Also professionals in projection. They know they could never fire up grassroots like the opposition does. They have to rely on astroturfing and pretending everyone does it, too. Only problem, they would not even admit to doing it, even when caught red-handed, over and over again.
They forget that pointing a finger at another means three of the fingers of that same hand point back at the pretender!
Wow. No wonder this guy was elected. No matter how random the sample, it always comes out 100% Obama supporters. I can’t figure out how McCain got 47% of the vote when everyone in America is an Obama supporter. Must have been the evil Diebold.
On
Your whole premise is irrelevant.
Your criticisms of the current system is like complaining that the patient is anemic. Yes, he may be and there are several treatments that will cure him of his anemia.
However, a government run socialist healthcare solution is the equivalent of bleeding the patient. It’s stupid, idiotic and destructive.
Therefore, it’s pointless to discuss anything with you if your assumption is government healthcare is the solution.
He has a solution. Unfortunately, neither he, Obama, or the Democrats can define the problem they have the solution for.
If you don’t know what the problem is you are trying to fix, you are just pissing into the wind.
Is the problem health care, is it insurance, is it millions not insured, is it millions without care, is it people making bad choices, is it unfortunate instances, is it preexisting conditions, is it that people get catastrophic illnesses?
What is it please? You must define the problem before you can suggest alternatives for solving it.
The problem as Dems see it has nothing to do with health care. It has everything to do with Democrats in power controlling whatever they want to.
Sheeples like LGM have bought into the Dems suggestion that health care is bad and they are the ones to fix it by increasing their control and power over people. Just plain common sense will tell you that is absurd.
The master of liberal crocodile tears and faux supporter of our military is going to lecture us on actual issues? Rush Limbaugh must scare the hell out of you is he’s the only thing you can use in your “argument.” Make sure you “share” your thoughts with all those independents and Dems who don’t share your trust in government healthcare.
That fact is that government programs like the military HMO Tricare and the VA system aren’t only fantastically inefficient but loaded with fraud, waste, abuse, and incompetence. I’d rather go to Walmart for my medication than have to be on a Tricare medication waitlist like I would’ve done had I not gone to the private sector. My husband really shouldn’t have to see a different doctor every time they check him out to see if he’s medically ready for deployment or have to use a freaking interpreter because the military would rather import foreign doctors instead of investing in more home grown ones.
Tricare is so fantastically inefficient that there is little transparency in their claims process. Because many military families move every few years, there’s always the possibility that Tricare will stiff the private providers and then whatever balance is left on a medical bill, if not discovered or weeded through in time, ends up on one’s credit report. I discovered this painful reality after my husband and I moved, Tricare did not reimburse the provider and communicate this fact to me, and I found out the amount owed was given to a collection agency looking for me. It took me a year to unsort this mess and restore my credit.
Then, there are the stories of government healthcare that don’t get enough mention… such as the airmen who lost his two legs after a botched gall bladder operation. I’m sure you can google it since you’re the master of all things google.
You, and your fellow liberal luminaries can hunt up every sob story and hard case scenario about our “fantastically inefficient” healthcare system, but they’ll never beat what military families encounter. We don’t need a new healthcare system, we need structural changes to the current one.
Trust that the only liberal solution to a problem is to create a new system to sweep the old problems into. Yeah, that sounds like the ticket.
stillontheroad said (#69):
Maybe not 99%.
T-Bone said (#72):
Yes, health care costs include those paid from tax money. They include all money spent by anyone on health care in that country.