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		<title>By: AARP Losing Memberships: Seniors and Military Vets Oppose Socialized ObamaCare, Glenn Beck Interviews AARP Rep (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/17/time-to-ration-health-care-for-illegal-aliens/comment-page-2/#comment-787002</link>
		<dc:creator>AARP Losing Memberships: Seniors and Military Vets Oppose Socialized ObamaCare, Glenn Beck Interviews AARP Rep (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] take from the drug lobby again?!?! and Death panels? What death panels? Oh, those death panels and Time to ration health care for illegal aliens and Democrat Rep. Betsy Markey, etiquette czarina and Profile in congressional cowardice and  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: President Obama: Reform Thyself &#171; Lighthouse Patriot Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>President Obama: Reform Thyself &#171; Lighthouse Patriot Journal</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: No Chaos at Oklahoma Townhall Meeting on ObamaCare: Sen. Coburn Addresses &#8220;End of Life&#8221; Question &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Chaos at Oklahoma Townhall Meeting on ObamaCare: Sen. Coburn Addresses &#8220;End of Life&#8221; Question &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] take from the drug lobby again?!?! and Death panels? What death panels? Oh, those death panels and Time to ration health care for illegal aliens and Democrat Rep. Betsy Markey, etiquette czarina and Profile in congressional cowardice and White [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Barney Frank&#8217;s Wacky Town Hall Circus: Says He&#8217;ll Vote the Way HE Think Is Best on ObamaCare, Will Likely Ignore Majority of Voters (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/17/time-to-ration-health-care-for-illegal-aliens/comment-page-2/#comment-782433</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Frank&#8217;s Wacky Town Hall Circus: Says He&#8217;ll Vote the Way HE Think Is Best on ObamaCare, Will Likely Ignore Majority of Voters (video) &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] take from the drug lobby again?!?! and Death panels? What death panels? Oh, those death panels and Time to ration health care for illegal aliens and Democrat Rep. Betsy Markey, etiquette czarina and Profile in congressional cowardice and White [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Weary Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weary Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My vote, by the way wasn’t “mindless”.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Actually, you are wrong. See, you pulled the lever for the &quot;r&quot; &quot;mindlessly&quot; because, well, he isn&#039;t a &quot;d&quot;. I actually looked at all the options and decided there were better candidates than the &quot;r&quot; this time around. Which takes more effort?


&lt;blockquote&gt;If the only difference you can see between McCain and Obama up to this point is health care, maybe you should open your eyes and take a closer look.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Prove it. I will give him the nod on the military, but that&#039;s it. Mcamensty&#039;s past record shows he has no trouble &quot;reaching across the asile&quot; and telling conservatives to screw off on social and domestic issues. Just what has ahppened so far that mcamensty would have done better? I trust the SOB about as far as I can throw him.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Meanwhile, the entire country’s heading to hell in a handbasket&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha. With mcamensty we get a train ride to h*ll. WIth obummer we get a plane ride. Either way, the republican party under current managment is taking us there as well. open your eyes.

&lt;blockquote&gt;but in the end I voted for the better of two terrible candidates&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, no matter what, you will ALWAYS vote for the &quot;r&quot; as long as he/she is 1 degree better than the &quot;d&quot;? If not, when do you say &quot;I just can&#039;t support his paltform any longer&quot;? See, I reached that point. I figure it is better to address the issu now rather than later because both parties are moving further left each year. Again, how in the world does voting for a bad candidate, because he is not as bad as the other, in any way send a message to the gop that the recent past platform and actions were misguided and an affront to conservative pronciples? Answer. It doesn&#039;t. It validates those misguided strategies.

Look, if either of you think you are stating anything not stated here before, you are sorely mistaken. This has been rehashed 500 times between others like myself and die hard, party first, republicans. I voted 3rd party and would do it again. And if the idiots trot out a mcamnesty type candidate in 2012, I will do it again. Vote for who you like, but I will no longer vote purely because they have an &quot;r&quot; next to their name. Put a decent candidate up that has not proven their disdain for conservatives opposed to amnesty/2nd amendment/balanced budgets and I will vote for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My vote, by the way wasn’t “mindless”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, you are wrong. See, you pulled the lever for the &#8220;r&#8221; &#8220;mindlessly&#8221; because, well, he isn&#8217;t a &#8220;d&#8221;. I actually looked at all the options and decided there were better candidates than the &#8220;r&#8221; this time around. Which takes more effort?</p>
<blockquote><p>If the only difference you can see between McCain and Obama up to this point is health care, maybe you should open your eyes and take a closer look.</p></blockquote>
<p>Prove it. I will give him the nod on the military, but that&#8217;s it. Mcamensty&#8217;s past record shows he has no trouble &#8220;reaching across the asile&#8221; and telling conservatives to screw off on social and domestic issues. Just what has ahppened so far that mcamensty would have done better? I trust the SOB about as far as I can throw him.</p>
<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, the entire country’s heading to hell in a handbasket</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha. With mcamensty we get a train ride to h*ll. WIth obummer we get a plane ride. Either way, the republican party under current managment is taking us there as well. open your eyes.</p>
<blockquote><p>but in the end I voted for the better of two terrible candidates</p></blockquote>
<p>So, no matter what, you will ALWAYS vote for the &#8220;r&#8221; as long as he/she is 1 degree better than the &#8220;d&#8221;? If not, when do you say &#8220;I just can&#8217;t support his paltform any longer&#8221;? See, I reached that point. I figure it is better to address the issu now rather than later because both parties are moving further left each year. Again, how in the world does voting for a bad candidate, because he is not as bad as the other, in any way send a message to the gop that the recent past platform and actions were misguided and an affront to conservative pronciples? Answer. It doesn&#8217;t. It validates those misguided strategies.</p>
<p>Look, if either of you think you are stating anything not stated here before, you are sorely mistaken. This has been rehashed 500 times between others like myself and die hard, party first, republicans. I voted 3rd party and would do it again. And if the idiots trot out a mcamnesty type candidate in 2012, I will do it again. Vote for who you like, but I will no longer vote purely because they have an &#8220;r&#8221; next to their name. Put a decent candidate up that has not proven their disdain for conservatives opposed to amnesty/2nd amendment/balanced budgets and I will vote for them.</p>
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		<title>By: ObamaCare Money Grab: &#8216;Taxing Your Mere Existence,&#8217; by William A. Jacobson &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ObamaCare Money Grab: &#8216;Taxing Your Mere Existence,&#8217; by William A. Jacobson &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] take from the drug lobby again?!?! and Death panels? What death panels? Oh, those death panels and Time to ration health care for illegal aliens and Democrat Rep. Betsy Markey, etiquette czarina and Profile in congressional cowardice and White [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DogBreath</title>
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		<dc:creator>DogBreath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On August 18th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, Weary Citizen said: 

If the gop wants my vote, they will start abiding by conservative pronciples in general and denounce amnesty....Not mindlessly pull the handle for the “r”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Great strategy.  You really taught them nasty GOPers a lesson.  Meanwhile, the entire country&#039;s heading to hell in a handbasket.  Just take your ball, go home and pout.  

If you want pure conservative candidates you&#039;ve got to grow them from seed.  Idealism is great, priciples are great, but reality is where we all have to live.  

I considered staying home, voting for a third party candidate or writing in my choice, but in the end I voted for the better of two terrible candidates.  Even though, in WA State, I knew there was no chance in Hades of McCain getting the nod.

Thanks Bob.

DB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On August 18th, 2009 at 2:08 pm, Weary Citizen said: </p>
<p>If the gop wants my vote, they will start abiding by conservative pronciples in general and denounce amnesty&#8230;.Not mindlessly pull the handle for the “r”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Great strategy.  You really taught them nasty GOPers a lesson.  Meanwhile, the entire country&#8217;s heading to hell in a handbasket.  Just take your ball, go home and pout.  </p>
<p>If you want pure conservative candidates you&#8217;ve got to grow them from seed.  Idealism is great, priciples are great, but reality is where we all have to live.  </p>
<p>I considered staying home, voting for a third party candidate or writing in my choice, but in the end I voted for the better of two terrible candidates.  Even though, in WA State, I knew there was no chance in Hades of McCain getting the nod.</p>
<p>Thanks Bob.</p>
<p>DB</p>
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		<title>By: BOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weary Citizen...turns out it didn&#039;t matter who either of us voted for. My vote, by the way wasn&#039;t &quot;mindless&quot;. I refused to do anything that would increase the probability of Obama being elected. If the only difference you can see between McCain and Obama up to this point is health care, maybe you should open your eyes and take a closer look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weary Citizen&#8230;turns out it didn&#8217;t matter who either of us voted for. My vote, by the way wasn&#8217;t &#8220;mindless&#8221;. I refused to do anything that would increase the probability of Obama being elected. If the only difference you can see between McCain and Obama up to this point is health care, maybe you should open your eyes and take a closer look.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/17/time-to-ration-health-care-for-illegal-aliens/comment-page-1/#comment-781943</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errah the solution is so simple.  Offer them a free bus ride to free health care in their home country.  Problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errah the solution is so simple.  Offer them a free bus ride to free health care in their home country.  Problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: BOB</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/17/time-to-ration-health-care-for-illegal-aliens/comment-page-1/#comment-781756</link>
		<dc:creator>BOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On August 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pm, theporch said: 
And if you think illegals from south of the border is a problem, look out for the muslim population growth in this country. They are encouraged to have multiple wives and all the children possible. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;They will take over this country without firing a shot.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The illegal Mexicans won&#039;t give it up easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On August 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pm, theporch said:<br />
And if you think illegals from south of the border is a problem, look out for the muslim population growth in this country. They are encouraged to have multiple wives and all the children possible. <strong><em>They will take over this country without firing a shot.</em></strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The illegal Mexicans won&#8217;t give it up easily.</p>
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		<title>By: theporch</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/17/time-to-ration-health-care-for-illegal-aliens/comment-page-1/#comment-781722</link>
		<dc:creator>theporch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you think illegals from south of the border is a problem, look out for the muslim population growth in this country. They are encouraged to have multiple wives and all the children possible. They will take over this country without firing a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you think illegals from south of the border is a problem, look out for the muslim population growth in this country. They are encouraged to have multiple wives and all the children possible. They will take over this country without firing a shot.</p>
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		<title>By: theporch</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/17/time-to-ration-health-care-for-illegal-aliens/comment-page-1/#comment-781719</link>
		<dc:creator>theporch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tarpon--- you have it 100% correct about tort reform and blocking illegals and sending them home for health care.  I think if just one politician stood up and yelled this it would be a miracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tarpon&#8212; you have it 100% correct about tort reform and blocking illegals and sending them home for health care.  I think if just one politician stood up and yelled this it would be a miracle.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Citizens: Did You Vote for This Extravagant Wi-Fi Installation at SF Bus Stops? &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Francisco Citizens: Did You Vote for This Extravagant Wi-Fi Installation at SF Bus Stops? &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1849-2009 San Francisco Chronicle, SFGate: State cuts tax exemptions for kids Michelle Malkin: Time to ration health care for illegal aliens and Caution: Lindsay Grahamnesty at work; Update: Obama says wait until next year and Catching up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Citizens: Did You Vote for This Extravagant Wi-Fi Installation at SF Bus Stops? &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Francisco Citizens: Did You Vote for This Extravagant Wi-Fi Installation at SF Bus Stops? &#171; Frugal Café Blog Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1849-2009 San Francisco Chronicle, SFGate: State cuts tax exemptions for kids Michelle Malkin: Time to ration health care for illegal aliens and Caution: Lindsay Grahamnesty at work; Update: Obama says wait until next year and Catching up [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 1849-2009 San Francisco Chronicle, SFGate: State cuts tax exemptions for kids Michelle Malkin: Time to ration health care for illegal aliens and Caution: Lindsay Grahamnesty at work; Update: Obama says wait until next year and Catching up [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fix the 14th Amendment: make citizenship follow the parents.  If your mother or father or both are U.S. citizens, then you are a citizen.  If not, you take the citizenship of the country of one or the other, but you do not assume citizenship by simply being born here.

This is one of the things France has right: as in most other countries, but differing from the US, children born in France to tourists or short term visitors do not acquire French citizenship by virtue of birth in France: residency must be proven.

If we must catch up with the rest of the world, as the Dems are fond of saying, then let it begin here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fix the 14th Amendment: make citizenship follow the parents.  If your mother or father or both are U.S. citizens, then you are a citizen.  If not, you take the citizenship of the country of one or the other, but you do not assume citizenship by simply being born here.</p>
<p>This is one of the things France has right: as in most other countries, but differing from the US, children born in France to tourists or short term visitors do not acquire French citizenship by virtue of birth in France: residency must be proven.</p>
<p>If we must catch up with the rest of the world, as the Dems are fond of saying, then let it begin here.</p>
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