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1. #1
   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:44 pm, Old Tanker said:

   My state is turning into a big freakin’ circus.

2. #2
   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:48 pm, behiker said:

   What an outrage to even consider closing Gitmo to bring them here. You may as well put a bullseye on any location holding the detainees. It will immediately become a terrorist target where other terrorists will be trying to free these captives.

3. #3
   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:49 pm, et said:

   What could go wrong. Just think of the employment opportunities for the unemployed Islamic youth of Dearborn.

4. #4
   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, hawkeye54 said:

   So, how near is Standish to Dearbornistan? Seems to me putting Jihadists anywhere near a large islamic population, let alone anywhere on the North American continent, is a bad idea.

5. #5
   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, hawkeye54 said:

   My state is turning into a big freakin’ circus.

   My sympathies to you, but my state of CA has been one for quite some time now.

6. #6
   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:53 pm, NJRepublican said:

   When I heard they were making room for Gitmo guys in MI, I thought they really must be trying to turn the state into a hell hole. Between the high unemployment, high taxes and now Gitmo, could Michigan get any worse? (not that NJ is much better!) Hey, maybe they should put them in NJ and let them live with our multitude of corrupt politicians that have been put away.

7. #7
   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:56 pm, hawkeye54 said:

   could Michigan get any worse

   Well, It could become North America’s first Caliphite, Michiganistan – How’s that for worse.

8. #8
   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:59 pm, rjbjrirish said:

   On August 19th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, hawkeye54 said:
   So, how near is Standish to Dearbornistan? Seems to me putting Jihadists anywhere near a large islamic population, let alone anywhere on the North American continent, is a bad idea.

   Roughly 150 miles, according to Mapquest.

9. #9
   On August 19th, 2009 at 4:00 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

   Can someone explain how Ahmed from Kandahar who knows nobody and speaks no English is more dangerous than, say, Cliff from Flint who’s in jail for murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy to traffic cocaine?

   Maybe Ahmed was more dangerous 8 years ago, but what exactly are supposed to be afraid of now?

10. #10
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:02 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Seems to me putting Jihadists anywhere near a large islamic population, let alone anywhere on the North American continent, is a bad idea.

    Hear, hear. Just to be safe, let’s round up all law-abiding naturalized Muslims and throw them in jail.

11. #11
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:05 pm, DanMan said:

    How about setting them free on one of the hunting leases at the King Ranch? Two bag limit to spread the fun.

12. #12
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:06 pm, love2rumba said:

    Can someone explain how Ahmed from Kandahar who knows nobody and speaks no English is more dangerous than, say, Cliff from Flint who’s in jail for murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy to traffic cocaine?

    That is because you are selectively ignorant no matter what facts are laid on the table.

13. #13
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Mal: “Well, you were right about this being a bad idea.”
    Zoe: “Thanks for sayin’, sir.”

14. #14
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pm, Mister P said:

    Where are the NEW prisoners? I haven’t heard of any. Are they being killed rather than captured maybe? I guess that is fine with the Left Wing. I think they see it as a form of euthanasia.

15. #15
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:11 pm, Hangfire said:

    A State representative from the Big Island of Hawaii says that the Gitmo detainees should be sent to Hawaii.

    Once the prisoners are shown true “Aloha”, they will no longer be dangerous. They are just misunderstood guys that need a break.

    Sheeeeee…..

16. #16
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:16 pm, Mister P said:

    Pe’le will take care of them

17. #17
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    That is because you are selectively deliberately ignorant no matter what facts are laid on the table.

    FIFY

18. #18
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    A State representative from the Big Island of Hawaii says that the Gitmo detainees should be sent to Hawaii.

    I understand there’s an area once used as a leper colony on Molokai. Would be appropriate, though I wouldn’t wish any Jihadists on the current residents of the island.

19. #19
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm, conservativesRus said:

    RSS chooses to be ignorant. Completely unaware that the belief system is ANY non-muslim is an infidel and deserves to die and there are “bonus points” if they send you to hell early.

20. #20
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:21 pm, cheapseat said:

    rss, maybe the problem is these terrorists are not fighters, they are bombers. they can spend their hours teaching all those black muslim converts just how to make an ied with shaped charge to maximize deaths. could detroit be improved by not drive by shooting, but by car bombs? what fun.

21. #21
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:00 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    Can someone explain how Ahmed from Kandahar who knows nobody and speaks no English is more dangerous than, say, Cliff from Flint who’s in jail for murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy to traffic cocaine?

    Maybe Ahmed was more dangerous 8 years ago, but what exactly are supposed to be afraid of now?

    Cliff from Flint doesn’t have friends who are willing to die in an attempt to bust him out of prison. Since our government has yet to secure our borders*, Ahmed has friends who can enter the US and make the attempt. Without secure borders, Ahmed’s friends can bring in machineguns, real AK’s, and RPGs to assault the prison.

    Before you scoff, Islamic terrorists have attacked prisons elsewhere to free their compatriots. A prison in the US would be a real coup.

    Clear?

    ECS

    *(This includes the “Dubya” and earlier administrations as well as the Obama administration.)

22. #22
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:30 pm, txvet2 said:

    I don’t have any problem with Hawaii, if they want them. Maybe a nice little island all their own, with boats sailing around it chumming the sharks….

23. #23
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, Dave Turson said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 3:56 pm, hawkeye54 said:
    could Michigan get any worse
    Well, It could become North America’s first Caliphite, Michiganistan – How’s that for worse.

    I’m not worried. The Constitution states that the “United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; …” Islamists would have to take over three-quarters of the country to change the Constitution — good luck with that one.

24. #24
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:31 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:02 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Seems to me putting Jihadists anywhere near a large islamic population, let alone anywhere on the North American continent, is a bad idea.

    Hear, hear. Just to be safe, let’s round up all law-abiding naturalized Muslims and throw them in jail.

    Red State, I know what you are saying and I agree. However, having a facility close to a place like Dearborn provides a community that provides cover for anyone wanting to “blend in,” stage, supply, prepare for, recon, rehearse, and conduct an operation later.

    The target will not be the prison. If you want to know the target, it can described in one word; Beslan

    “Give us the prisoners or …………..”

    The Chicago Thugs have no idea what a REAL thug is. They are about to.

25. #25
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:32 pm, right4life said:

    put em in DETROIT…that should be punishment enough!!!

26. #26
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, rusty_armor said:

    Not in MY back yard.
    Not in MY front yard.
    Not in MY neighborhood
    and
    Not in MY country.

27. #27
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Since our government has yet to secure our borders*, Ahmed has friends who can enter the US and make the attempt. Without secure borders, Ahmed’s friends can bring in machineguns, real AK’s, and RPGs to assault the prison.

    Do you seriously think it would be worth it to a Qaeda operative to sneak into the U.S., go to Michigan, and bomb a prison just to get an old compatriot or two? Wouldn’t it be more destructive to, say, just bomb an embassy. Or if you make the effort to get into the U.S., bomb a federal building?

    I don’t buy it.

28. #28
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:38 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Sorry, meant to link here.

29. #29
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:39 pm, Southpaw said:

    Nice, Obama. Locate dangerous terrorists as close to an unguarded Canadian border as possible. I don’t think I’ll be driving across the Mackinac Bridge anytime soon.

30. #30
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:43 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Three times is the charm.

31. #31
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:51 pm, T-Bone said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Red State Skeptic said:
    Do you seriously think it would be worth it to a Qaeda operative to sneak into the U.S., go to Michigan

    Hint to skeptic. They are there already and they didn’t have to sneak into the country.

32. #32
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Hint to skeptic. They are there already and they didn’t have to sneak into the country.

    They who? Al Qaeda is in Michigan?

33. #33
    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, docflash said:

    How many elementary schools are in that area where hostages can be used to trade for Jihads?Or maybe daycares.

34. #34
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:02 pm, groundhunter said:

    RSS isn’t buying. Who said anyone was selling.

35. #35
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, battleaxe said:

    On the bright side, if they get them into a Detroit facility, it will very temporarily increase the population of that sinking ship.

    Will the last person out of Detroit please turn off the lights? Thanks.

36. #36
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:05 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    How many elementary schools are in that area where hostages can be used to trade for Jihads?Or maybe daycares.

    Why can’t you hold kids hostage in exchange for Gitmo detainees? Y’all are a little fuzzy on details here.

37. #37
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pm, groundhunter said:

    RSS isn’t buying.
    Rss is in denial.
    Rss is a little fuzzy.

    yawn!

38. #38
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pm, txvet2 said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:37 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    I don’t buy it.

    Who cares?

39. #39
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pm, jbh45 said:

    Yep I remember during Carter years that the economy was so bad several communities in Illinois fighting over where to build a secure medium security prison for the worst offenders. The various towns were all hoping for the prison (and the jobs it would bring).

    Yep, you can tell a dem is in the WH once again.

40. #40
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, T-Bone said:

    Oh, you are right. There are no terrorists left in the US. Bush took care of that and Obama kept it that way.

41. #41
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, Dave Turson said:

    at 5:03 pm, battleaxe said:
    On the bright side, if they get them into a Detroit facility, it will very temporarily increase the population of that sinking ship.
    Will the last person out of Detroit please turn off the lights? Thanks.

    What’s so great about Louisiana? The Donald does not want a piece of Detroit for nothing. He who laughs last laughs best.

42. #42
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, conservative in europe said:

    Hey RSS – I can tell you the difference between foriegn Terrorists and “Cliff from Flint”.. We have a CHOICE when it comes to the Terrorists. If we could get rid of “Cliff” we would – but you Liberals would probably petition for him to be released in to the public and placed on welfare.

    Hang them all – on television. Then, sew them in to pig skins and bury the bodies after nightfall. Then place a sign on the grave that says, “Your fate awaits – Don’t Tread on Me!”

    It is a dream I have – but the DemoCommies will never let it happen – they want to bring these murdering cowards to the USA where they can be paroled on to the street. Maybe, just maybe, some Liberal Politician’s daughter will sart dating one of these guys – then you will see how quickly the “live and let live” mantra (excluding Conservatives, of course) these fools rant about holds water.

43. #43
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, docflash said:

    RSS,they can use kids anytime but it might be kids of people who work at the prison in this case.

44. #44
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Why can’t you hold kids hostage in exchange for Gitmo detainees? Y’all are a little fuzzy on details here.

    Think Mogadishu.

    No hostages. Just a truck bomb next to each school denotated simultaneously followed by bloody assaults on any sfot target they have resources to hit.

    Then wait for CNN.

    They know the people in D.C. are weak and will fold just like Bill Clinton did in 1993.

45. #45
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, txvet2 said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    We have enough Muslim clerics et al preaching jihad to receptive audiences in this country that it wouldn’t be a long stretch to surmise that some malcontents might be recruited to commit terrorist acts either in an attempt to free those al Qaeda, or merely to act in sympathy with them.

    My concern, however, is that once they were brought to such a facility, the Obamidiots would feel obligated to extend them full constitutional rights, including exclusion of any and all evidence obtained without warrants, any statements obtained without Miranda warnings, etc, until there was no case against any of them, at which point, liberalidiots being liberalidiots, they would undoubtedly be released into the general population – at which time they would no longer be a theoretical threat, but an actual, imminent one.

46. #46
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, Misscheryl said:

    As an Oklahoman, I have only one question. Can we secede yet?

47. #47
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Standish Prison is .6 miles from I-75, on a US highway, with 2 other highways approaching into the area, an airport one mile away, and heavily wooded Terrain in the area.

    TRANSLATION: Lots of high speed avenues of approach, escape routes, cover and concealment.

    Lovely, if you are wanting to conduct an operation, especially a one way operation.

48. #48
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, Misscheryl said:
    As an Oklahoman, I have only one question. Can we secede yet?

    Texahoma?

49. #49
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:27 pm, granite said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 4:29 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Cliff from Flint doesn’t have

    a worldwide network of

    friends who are willing to die in an attempt to bust him out of prison. Since our government has yet to secure our borders*, Ahmed has friends who can enter the US and make the attempt. Without secure borders, Ahmed’s friends can bring in machineguns, real AK’s, and RPGs to assault the prison.

    Exactly.

    Please allow my small addition.

50. #50
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:37 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    My concern, however, is that once they were brought to such a facility, the Obamidiots would feel obligated to extend them full constitutional rights, including exclusion of any and all evidence obtained without warrants, any statements obtained without Miranda warnings, etc, until there was no case against any of them, at which point, liberalidiots being liberalidiots, they would undoubtedly be released into the general population – at which time they would no longer be a theoretical threat, but an actual, imminent one.

    Nothing like fear of the untrue to gin up paranoia. Much to the chagrin of liberalidiots such as myself, Obama’s actual detainee policy is so draconian that it would make Dick Cheney blush. Look it up.

51. #51
    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:58 pm, zorro said:

    I’ll tell you, these Chicago Thugs have no idea what they are doing. None, zero, zip.

    I agree with txvet #45. The fools who comprise the Obama regime will bungle this, expose our intelligence methods in open court endangering our fighting men and women still on the field of battle.

    May God the Almighty help us all.

52. #52
    On August 19th, 2009 at 6:09 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, Misscheryl said:
    As an Oklahoman, I have only one question. Can we secede yet?

    Texahoma?

    If it comes to that, we’ll need the Texas seaports. Of course, we’d probably take a good chunk out of the middle of the United States with us.

    ECS

53. #53
    On August 19th, 2009 at 6:21 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

    What is the problem with leaving them where they are? One prison is as good (bad?) as the next. I thought closing Gitmo was all about releasing “detainees”…ones who were not guilty of anything. (yeah right) If they cannot be housed in Gitmo because of all the whining and crying, shoot them or send them home. Prison is still Prison. WTF?

54. #54
    On August 19th, 2009 at 6:41 pm, William said:

    Michigan, including Dearbornistan, Michigan, is a nexus point for Islamism.

    What difference will it make if a few more Muslims, including a few more Jihadis are added to the mix?

    No one will even notice.

    Political correctness has already spread to Michigan, and people just don’t give a dam#.

    People are in a slumber and such things don’t mean spit to them.

    In contrast to hat I am happy to see that someone is taking some action, as per Michelle’s news item.

55. #55
    On August 19th, 2009 at 7:10 pm, md1964 said:

    Well the move to Michigan will make it real easy for the Deerbornistan community to just drive over and break their terrorist heroes out of prison.

    Sickening how bad Obama is making America look weak, in the eyes of the people who feed on weakness.

56. #56
    On August 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Well the move to Michigan will make it real easy for the Deerbornistan community to just drive over and break their terrorist heroes out of prison.

    Won’t have to. Once in the states, AG Holder will just dismiss their charges and let ‘em go, and recruit them for ACORN with automatic democrat voter regisitration (if they haven’t already been registered) and SEIU membership. for the last, they are more than qualified.

57. #57
    On August 19th, 2009 at 9:01 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Can someone explain how Ahmed from Kandahar who knows nobody and speaks no English is more dangerous than, say, Cliff from Flint who’s in jail for murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy to traffic cocaine?

    Maybe Ahmed was more dangerous 8 years ago, but what exactly are supposed to be afraid of now?

    Oh, are you offering to take in some of these jihadists, then? Seeing as they’re not dangerous and all that…

58. #58
    On August 20th, 2009 at 1:10 am, Living in the PSRK said:

    Revenge of the ‘Shoe Bomber’:
    The terrorist sues to resume his jihad from prison. The Obama administration caves in.
    By DEBRA BURLINGAME
    WSJ.com

    On June 17, at the Administrative Maximum (ADX) penitentiary in Florence, Colo., one of those albatrosses, inmate number 24079-038, began his day with a whole new range of possibilities. Eight days earlier, the U.S. Attorney’s office in Denver filed notice in federal court that the Special Administrative Measures (SAMs) which applied to that prisoner—Richard C. Reid, a.k.a. the “Shoe Bomber”—were being allowed to expire. SAMs are security directives, renewable yearly, issued by the attorney general when “there is a substantial risk that a prisoner’s communications, correspondence or contacts with persons could result in death or serious bodily injury” to others.

    Reid was arrested in 2001 for attempting to blow up American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami with 197 passengers and crew on board. Why had Attorney General Eric Holder decided not to renew his security measures, kept in place since 2002? …
    According to court documents filed in a 2007 civil lawsuit against the government, Reid claimed that SAMs violated his First Amendment right of free speech and free exercise of religion. In a hand-written complaint, he asserted that he was being illegally prevented from performing daily “group prayers in a manner prescribed by my religion.” Yet the list of Reid’s potential fellow congregants at ADX Florence reads like a Who’s Who of al Qaeda’s most dangerous members: Ramzi Yousef and his three co-conspirators in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui; “Millennium bomber” Ahmed Ressam; “Dirty bomber” Jose Padilla; Wadih el-Hage, Osama Bin Laden’s personal secretary, convicted in the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombing that killed 247 people.

    In December 2008, the Department of Justice filed a motion to dismiss Reid’s lawsuit. It cited the example of ADX inmate Ahmed Ajaj as an illustration of “the dangers inherent in permitting a group of inmates, of like mind in their opposition to the United States, to congregate for a prayer service conducted in a language not understood by most correctional officers.”

59. #59
    On August 20th, 2009 at 1:10 am, Living in the PSRK said:

    Whew! Aren’t you gladObamahas our backside?

    /sarc off

60. #60
    On August 20th, 2009 at 8:26 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Instead of Standish Obama could put our Gitmo Guests in converted auto factories in Flint and Detroit. That might help the economies of those two cities and Michael Moore could make a movie “Mohamed and Me”. Security? Would YOU try to break prison in Detroit or Flint?

    It is a win win.

    God Bless America
    Except for the Blue States

61. #61
    On August 20th, 2009 at 8:53 am, happyscrapper said:

    Why not send them to Hyannis Port? When Teddy dies, they can help to install those windmills in his neighborhood, and then they can get a condo nearby.

62. #62
    On August 20th, 2009 at 9:10 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On August 20th, 2009 at 8:53 am, happyscrapper said:

    Why not send them to Hyannis Port? When Teddy dies, they can help to install those windmills in his neighborhood, and then they can get a condo nearby.

    

63. #63
    On August 20th, 2009 at 10:12 am, walterc said:

    Red State Skeptic said:

    Hint to skeptic. They are there already and they didn’t have to sneak into the country.

    They who? Al Qaeda is in Michigan?

    Who do you think is recruiting suicide bombers in Somalia from Michigan?

    FBI investigating numerous cases of kids born in the USA, scholorship in hand, giving it up to go to Somalia and blow themselves up.

    No matter how you paint it, this is a disaster in the making.

64. #64
    On August 20th, 2009 at 10:15 am, spaceycakes said:

    Isn’t Dearborn already under Shari’a?

65. #65
    On August 20th, 2009 at 10:42 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    Oh, are you offering to take in some of these jihadists, then? Seeing as they’re not dangerous and all that…

    Absolutely. They can stay on my aero bed. We can make popcorn and watch John Hughes movies!

66. #66
    On August 20th, 2009 at 10:53 am, spaceycakes said:

    RSS–see how they’ll react to your copy of ‘Priscilla, Queen of the Desert’.

67. #67
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:08 am, ErinF said:

    I’m surprised they didn’t automatically start dumping them in red states.

68. #68
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:09 am, MtsEdge said:

    Why not lodge ‘em @ the White House? I hear there’s plenty of room.

69. #69
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:10 am, ErinF said:

    Why not lodge ‘em @ the White House? I hear there’s plenty of room.

    obama says NIMBY. So do the kennedys and clintons.

70. #70
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:11 am, Jimmie said:

    The first and foremost good reason to have the terrorist in Gitmo is…security….what is that…they are in a SECURE location….that is BEYOND the reach of their fellow creatures. So for no apparent reason ( but to undo something the evil hitler Bush clone did) ….we will CHANGE their location and put them within reach. And we will HOPE that not to many people die as a result. Be prepared for the liberal outrage when a nearby grammar school is taken over ….they will damn us for even suggesting that this CHANGE resulted in the deaths of so many children…..for they NEVER intended….and that is their thing they lack the ability to think through their actions….they pick an action that sounds “good and compassionate” and that is as far as they can go with the thought………

71. #71
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:13 am, MtsEdge said:

    obama says NIMBY. So do the kennedys and clintons.

    Who said anything about putting them in the back yard?

72. #72
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:14 am, Major O said:

    On August 19th, 2009 at 6:21 pm, UberInfidel67 said:
    What is the problem with leaving them where they are? One prison is as good (bad?) as the next. I thought closing Gitmo was all about releasing “detainees”…ones who were not guilty of anything. (yeah right) If they cannot be housed in Gitmo because of all the whining and crying, shoot them or send them home. Prison is still Prison. WTF?

    This is really the crux of the current issue. Gitmo was cried up like it was 1000 times worse than the Japanese internment camp not just because of the supposed injustices heaped on the helpless detainees, but because the detainees were being HELD IN PRISON INDEFINITELY (and underlying that was the sometimes explicit but always implicit suggestion that the detainees are innocent). How the devil is holding them indefinitely in Michigan any different? It’s a distinction without a difference done ONLY to make it look like Obama “listened” to those who wanted the policies of the hated Bush overturned. If you really cared about the detainees in the way the opposition claimed, there would be a HUGE backlash against moving them TO ANY PRISON.

    This is why I say if those on the conservative side care enough, it will inevitably us to either civil war or something close to it; because it’s NOT about the policies, per se. It’s about criminalizing the conservative side’s viewpoint and being so mindlessly partisan that it no longer matters WHAT Obama does as long as he opposes the Right on just about ANY issue and actively works to turn out or even punish those on the Right. That’s making so many of his actions incoherent, irrational, and sometimes, flat out dangerous.

    How could anyone on the Left say with a straight face that somehow holding someone forever in Michigan is substantially different than holding them forever at Gitmo? Many of them are only silent because THEIR MAN is at the helm now, so that makes whatever he does acceptable.

    You just can’t peacefully coexist with that kind of “my-side-at-all-costs” (even at the cost of coherence and national security) type of mentality. It’s too irrational to reason with and too overbearing and overreaching to ignore. It will come down to a conflict unless God spares us, IMO.

73. #73
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:16 am, lgm said:

    Republican oppo experts have a remarkable ability to find the worst in Americans. From “death panels” to “pull the plug on grandma” to worrying that detainees, some of whom probably were terrorists seven years ago, will escape a maximum security prison and blow up buildings in rural Michigan.

    Congratulations, you’ve done it again.

74. #74
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:18 am, Red State Skeptic said:

    RSS–see how they’ll react to your copy of ‘Priscilla, Queen of the Desert’.

    lol!

75. #75
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:22 am, spaceycakes said:

    Congratulations, you’ve done it again.

    why, thank you.

    dipsh1t

76. #76
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:26 am, Jimmie said:

    One more thing….there is an upside to this CHANGE….it will be a great boon to the legal system…MILLIONS of dollars will be made available for the defense. Investigations into the backgrounds…were all legal procedures followed to the letter in the arrest and confinement …..we, or I should say our legal system will leave no dollar unturned in the effort to set FREE these unfortunates….

77. #77
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:34 am, Flyoverman said:

    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:16 am, lgm said:

    Beslan

78. #78
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:42 am, Roland said:

    Beslan

    Oh, but that kind of thing could never happen here, Flyoverman. Until it does.

    And when it does we will ‘all pull together’ with our President to ‘fix this terrible mess’ that was the result of BUSH’S war in Iraq.

    You can’t fix stupid.

79. #79
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:42 am, cheapseat said:

    lgm, i didn’t say they would “escape and blow up things in rural michigan. i said they would teach black muslim converts who are there for merely killing, raping and mayhem, and as such will be back on the streets of detroit within a few years, the fine art of effective ied construction so these fine yutes of detroit don’t have to merely take a chance on an effective kill with a drive by shooting, but can blow their target and the whole block to hell. i was congratulating you liberals for helping to speed up urban renewal and control the gang population at the same time.

80. #80
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:48 am, DBNinKY said:

    Democrats berate and belittle their constituents in town hall meetings, betray their trust in the halls of Congress, and show total disregard for the safety of those serving in the armed forces by holding up funding and protective gear in a pointless grudge-match against the opposition party.

    So is it any wonder that Americans do not trust them to bring terrorists prisoners to our shores and house them securely?

    And like I’ve said a number of times before – it’s not the terrorists themselves that are of concern, but their ability to spread their message of hate among the prison populations and the elements they’ll attract outside the prisons to these small communities.

81. #81
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:48 am, MtsEdge said:

    MajorO, hear, hear!

    I do not believe that these people give a HOOT about what is best for this country.

82. #82
    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:49 am, Pat said:

    Is this the quid pro quo for feeding bailout money to the auto unions/companies?

83. #83
    On August 20th, 2009 at 12:04 pm, Major O said:

    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:16 am, lgm said:
    Republican oppo experts have a remarkable ability to find the worst in Americans. From “death panels” to “pull the plug on grandma” to worrying that detainees, some of whom probably were terrorists seven years ago, will escape a maximum security prison and blow up buildings in rural Michigan.

    Congratulations, you’ve done it again.

    What, disagree with the stupidity that seems to rule the Obama administration?

    Think you’d be used to it now. Did you even read #58 above? Do you have a rational response to it, or is this the standard opposition for opposition’s sake response you are known for?

    1. Any proof or demonstration of who the Republican “oppo experts” are and how they tie into this? Or are you accusing Debra Burlingame, WHOSE BROTHER WAS KILLED BY AL QUAEDA ON 9/11 of being some kind of cynical political operative? If so, you should have enough integrity as a man to explicitly say so. No skin in the game for her in this; no, just raw political opportunism. Oh, and don’t forget to tell the Standish community what a bunch of shifty operatives they are, too.

    2. It’s not “Americans” but certain Americans, notably represented by you, who offer these utterly stupid and dangerous ideas and who never engage the actual arguments of those that disagree with you, but just toss out terms like “oppo experts” with no shred of substantiation. And both common sense and experience argue the simple fact that there are Americans who really DO have “the worst” in them. Being an American citizen doesn’t exempt you from being a cynical, misguided, and reckless fool. Consider Nancy Pelosi…

    3. So you can read the hearts of the detainees from the comfort of your home and know that “some” of the detainees were terrorists 7 years ago, but now they’re not?

    4. If you bothered to actually read all of the arguments against this move, the concerns are MORE than just them escaping, but my guess is that you don’t bother to read everything. Or if you do, you pick the argument you find easiest to fight against and ignore the others.

84. #84
    On August 20th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, Bulldogger said:

    Red State Skeptic said:

    Do you seriously think it would be worth it to a Qaeda operative to sneak into the U.S., go to drive 150 miles from Dearborn Michigan, and bomb a prison just to get an old compatriot or two? Wouldn’t it be more destructive to, say, just bomb an embassy. Or if you make the effort to get into the U.S., bomb a federal building?

    I don’t buy it.

    FIFY!

85. #85
    On August 20th, 2009 at 12:27 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On August 20th, 2009 at 11:42 am, Roland said:

    What is amazing is that lgm lives in NYC. Simply mind-boggling.

86. #86
    On August 20th, 2009 at 12:41 pm, happyscrapper said:

    lgm said: …some of whom probably were terrorists seven years ago

    What does that even mean??? That they are now rehabilitated and should be given another chance? That is the same kind of thinking that Obama has with his “I was only 5 years old when Bill Ayers blew up those buildings”. Once a terrorist, always one. And they should be executed.

87. #87
    On August 20th, 2009 at 12:50 pm, MtsEdge said:

    On August 20th, 2009 at 12:41 pm, happyscrapper said:
    lgm said: …some of whom probably were terrorists seven years ago
    What does that even mean??? That they are now rehabilitated and should be given another chance? That is the same kind of thinking that Obama has with his “I was only 5 years old when Bill Ayers blew up those buildings”. Once a terrorist, always one. And they should be executed.

    Exactly!! Being a terrorist isn’t like wearing a hat that you can put on and take off, it is their lifetime conviction – kill or die trying.

    And I don’t know about you, but I am sick to death of Obama’s non sequitur about being “5 years old” when Bill Ayers committed his treasonous acts. He was most certainly a (chronological) adult when he met and befriended Ayers and used him to launch his political career.

88. #88
    On August 20th, 2009 at 1:18 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Those of us with a brain judged Obama by the company he kept. Unfortunately, the MSM didn’t report on any of it. So the uninformed citizens were taken in by this thug. The MSM is treasonous. Bring the pitchforks to their headquarters and let them know we are mad as hell. And their days of treason are coming to an end.

89. #89
    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:22 pm, lgm said:

    In a related story, Rush Limbaugh literally was doing the Devil’s work this morning. He took the position of Cain in the G-d/Cain dispute — I am not my brother’s keeper. He quoted this from the Bible and agreed with it.

90. #90
    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:24 pm, nosheep said:

    As Major O said, the MAIN problem is what rights these terrorists have once we put them on American soil, not any security concerns about escaping, although those points are valid as well…They were put in Club Gitmo for that very reason(not American soil). It’s been pointed out before. You cannot give prisoners of war our constitutional rights and access to our legal system and the team of top liberal lawyers waiting in the aisle. It’s called common sense and RSS and lgm must not have any and so I understand their attitude towards this.
    Sugarland Texas Tea Party sign: I would rather be a right wing extremist with common sense than a Harvard grad with none…

91. #91
    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, T-Bone said:

    You listen to someone as smart as Rush and still have such stupidity. My gosh, you are dense.

92. #92
    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:28 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Off Topic, but of interest.

    Watch LIVE at 2:30 P.M. Eastern: Strategy Meeting with the President

    President Obama will be holding a special strategy meeting today at 2:30 p.m. Eastern Time for all Organizing for America supporters. UPDATED: Click here to watch the program live online.

    (the below note was sent to SEIU members at …………….redacted by Flyoverman

    Thanks again for signing up to be a part of the OFA National Health Care Forum with President Obama.

    The event is today (Thursday, August 20th) at 2:30 p.m. ET/ 1:30 p.m. CT/ 12:30 p.m. MT/ 11:30 a.m. PT.
    You can watch the forum live at:

    http://my.barackobama.com/watch

    This is an incredible opportunity to huddle with the President and discuss how we’re going to pass real health insurance reform this year. Glad you can make it.

93. #93
    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:41 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:22 pm, lgm said:
    He quoted this from the Bible and agreed with it.

    Actually lgm, I prefer the story in First Samuel 8:4-18. It’s your future.

    ******************************************
    4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. 5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways; now appoint a king to lead [a] us, such as all the other nations have.”

    6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD. 7 And the LORD told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do.”

    10 Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle [b] and donkeys he will take for his own use.

    17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.”

94. #94
    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:51 pm, Salt said:

    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:27 pm, T-Bone said:

    My favorite part of that comment was where he started with “In a related story” and proceeded with something not at all related to the topic.

    Although, he did remind me to tune into Rush, so kudos to him for that.

95. #95
    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:56 pm, Trop said:

    Why such a scardy-cat Ms. Malkin??? Do you realize how weak this makes the USA look…? Like those guys are too much of a menace to be on our territory?

    Wuss!

    Just stop it with the “I’m all scared” bs and let’s be the tough Americans we are. Sheesh! Bunch of babies.

    We’re Americans. We’re bad asses. Let’s start acting like it. Send those Guantanamo detainees to the states. Bring it on.

96. #96
    On August 20th, 2009 at 3:04 pm, atheling said:

    Why don’t we send them to lgm’s and RSS’s homes?

    I’m willing to bet that lgm won’t have a head after one day.

    Willing, lgm?

97. #97
    On August 20th, 2009 at 3:20 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Send those Guantanamo detainees to the states. Bring it on.

    Tough talk, but not all of us are bad a***s. Think especially of the elderly and children.

98. #98
    On August 20th, 2009 at 3:23 pm, Salt said:

    On August 20th, 2009 at 2:56 pm, Trop said:

    I can’t tell if that’s sarcasm or not.

    Why should we, the taxpayer, pay to move them out of Gitmo? Why should we put America’s enemies within our borders? Why should we give them the opportunity to try and recruit from the criminal populace? That’s not fear, that’s just good tactical sense. They don’t belong in our criminal system.

99. #99
    On August 20th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, T-Bone said:

    The following are just a few examples of homegrown Islamic extremism in the U.S. alone in 2008:

    • A convert from Long Island joined al-Qaida (disclosed this past week) and gave the group information about Long Island trains and New York City’s subways.

    • A plot to kill hundreds of soldiers at Fort Dix formulated by assimilated American Muslims who have lived here for 25 years (all convicted).

    • A plot to operate a terrorist training camp in Oregon (pleaded guilty).

    • A plot to blow up two synagogues and a National Guard plane in upstate New York by prison converts (scheduled for trial).

    • A plot to blow up buildings by the Liberty City 7 (all convicted).

    • The cases of young Somali teenagers raised in the U.S. going overseas to become suicide bombers.

    And these are just some of the ones that were caught. There are many other sympathizers and potential threats out there. Oh but there are no Al Qaeda terrorists in the US according to some ignorants of reality. Talk about a giant hit to credibility. Slugged out of the park.

100. #100
     On August 20th, 2009 at 4:02 pm, GraniteMan said:

     You don’t have to be a Harvard grad or Editor of the Harvard Law Review to figure out a rose by any other name is still a rose.
     A prison in Michigan will get the same nasty comments from those who dislike the USA as Gitmo…….DuuuuuuuH!