Sen. Edward Kennedy has died

By Michelle Malkin  •  August 26, 2009 01:32 AM

The U.S. Senator from Massachusetts succumbed to brain cancer at the age of 77 tonight. Put aside your ideological differences for an appropriate moment and mark this passing with solemnity.

There is a time and place for political analysis and criticism. Not now.

Yes, there will be a nauseating excess of MSM hagiographies and lionizations — and crass calls to pass the health care takeover to memorialize his death.

That’s no excuse to demonstrate the same lack of restraint in the other direction. Not now.

ABC News reports:

Sen. Ted Kennedy died shortly before midnight Tuesday at his home in Hyannis Port, Mass., at age 77.

The man known as the “liberal lion of the Senate” had fought a more than year-long battle with brain cancer, and according to his son had lived longer with the disease than his doctors expected him to…

..A hardworking, well-liked politician who became the standard-bearer of his brothers’ liberal causes, his career was clouded by allegations of personal immorality and accusations that his family’s clout helped him avoid the consequences of an accident that left a young woman dead.

But for the younger members of the Kennedy clan, from his own three children to those of his brothers JFK and RFK, Ted Kennedy — once seen as the youngest and least talented in a family of glamorous overachievers — was both a surrogate father and the center of the family.

And certainly it was Ted Kennedy who bore many of the tragedies of the family — the violent deaths of four of his siblings, his son’s battle with cancer, and the death of his nephew John F. Kennedy Jr. in a plane crash.

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The Kennedy family statement is here.

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From De Profundis, Psalm 130

Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.
Let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplication.
If Thou, O Lord, shalt observe iniquities; Lord, who shall endure it?
For with Thee there is merciful forgiveness:
and by reason of Thy law, I have waited for Thee, O Lord.
My soul hath relied on His word; my soul hath hoped in the Lord…

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The Anchoress has the best reflection and round-up on Kennedy’s death I’ve read.

Also must-read: Baseball Crank reflects on a Senate workhouse. Plus: Bonus video!

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  1. #301
    On August 26th, 2009 at 4:22 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    did I miss it or was their no “lgm” glowing dribble posted?

  2. #302
    On August 26th, 2009 at 4:47 pm, frontierguy said:

    We all know the left is absent of class, their jubilations on left blogs when Jesse Helms died showed that. All I know is that it is true, when you don’t have anything good to say the best thing is to stay quiet. I think I will exercise that now

  3. #303
    On August 26th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, MacEamonn said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, RetFireman said:

    Thank you. Would you share what the forum is?

    RecceNet Forum

  4. #304
    On August 26th, 2009 at 5:59 pm, purplepeep said:

    Vickisoup said:

    Sorry, purplepeep; I meant to add a note of gratitude for your compassion back on 5/21/08; not to hold that comment as evidence of disdain. Please forgive.

    Since I totally missed being offended no apology is necessary, Vickisoup! But thank you anyway.

    I believe it’s as the Book says (and as Michelle says here) – to everything there is a season; there are both the right times & right places and the wrong times & wrong places.

  5. #305
    On August 26th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, purplepeep said:

    Jason L. said:

    What purplepeep and others in her eforget is that the left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) actually DID do that to President Reagan: I watched Chris Matthews smear him

    You’re certainly welcome to emulate the lunatic fringe left and Chris Matthews if you so desire, Jason. There are even the headcases who protest at funerals to cite as role models, if you wish.

    As I alluded before, I’m sadly used to a generation of males lacking even such basic civilities as opening doors for women or taking one’s hat-cap off when entering a house of worship.

    Remember that, purplepeeps and others who ask us to “tone it down”. Let’s have the straight and correct record, shall we?

    Usually when someone intones the Royal “We” I wondering if it’s a case of worms or what, but I digress. (Conjoined twins, mayhaps?)

    Obviously you either refused to, or were unable to, read what our hostess wrote above and instead you just went off on a series of Pavlovian political emotional explosions solely as a result of seeing the word “Kennedy”.

  6. #306
    On August 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, oldbuckaroo said:

    My vivid memories of Teddy include his actions, in collusion with his liberal colleagues Mansfield, Church, et.al., that prompted our nation to abandon an ally and waste the efforts of the 58,000 brave Americans that made the supreme sacrifice in Vietnam. I can only hope he’s now confronting each and every one of them, face to face, to answer to them for his decision to sell them and their legacy of bravery down the river in the name of political expedience.

    Just another vet, II Field Force Vietnam 1969-70.

  7. #307
    On August 26th, 2009 at 6:40 pm, shimauma2 said:

    So was the opinion of Mary Jo on the death of kennedy asked about yet? Usually, she’s unavailable for comment whenever this guy gets media….

  8. #308
    On August 26th, 2009 at 6:42 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Kennedy was a Globalist. Open borders, and spending American tax money for projects in Boston. It should read it on his grave stone.

    I do not wish his family any ill will, but Ted was no Lion for America. Maybe, the North American Union.

  9. #309
    On August 26th, 2009 at 6:53 pm, TigerLady said:

    Well, Leatherneck, I believe Teddy was lyin’ for America and therein may be the confusion.

  10. #310
    On August 26th, 2009 at 6:55 pm, Bill M said:

    Reading Culture of Corruption now. As usual, you’ve hit the nail on the head!

  11. #311
    On August 26th, 2009 at 7:02 pm, rotarymunkey said:

    Teddy Kennedy died a Senator and a life-long politician, unwilling to retire with grace and dignity… and perhaps that’s the most vile thing anyone can say about him.

  12. #312
    On August 26th, 2009 at 7:19 pm, jamesgreenidge said:

    zer said:

    No, I simply do not believe there’s equal reverence for the dead, that’s all. Were that true we should all grant Hitler’s passing the same pious reverence as we do the Pope. The Kennedys helped foster ‘compassionate’ “kill ‘em with kindness” social polices that helped replace dad in black families and crippled the sense of self-relience and self-esteem the black community was nurturing very well up to the mid-fifties. This would’ve been a very different country had the black community earned its own balls in managing its affairs and youth and civic pride. We are paying and will pay for such lib acts of “social conscience” for many generations to come. This issue brings up a bitter chapter way back in my great-great-great grandmother’s East Texas rice plantation (no, she didn’t own it). The planter’s son was notorious for whipping out the cat-o’-nine-tails and doing Cain to the backs of almost a dozen blacks in his time, eventually killing two and crippling another due to infection. When he broke his neck checking out a well, planter papa ordered everyone out the digs to kneel and pray for his “pure immortal soul.” Now they had to kneel else incur repercussions to their families, but if I was there it’d take a shotgun kneecapping to make mine kiss the dirt.

    James Greenidge
    Queens NY

  13. #313
    On August 26th, 2009 at 7:22 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    the gratitude campaign…how to say thanks without saying anything…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSfFYxSdKdo

  14. #314
    On August 26th, 2009 at 7:48 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    In honor of RetFireman: I will refrain for posting anything negative about Senator Ted Kennedy for 24 Hours.

    If this had been Honorable Clarance Thomas, GWB or any conservative then there would be cheers throughout our nations “newsrooms” with the most vilest of comments.

    Now pardon me, I have my nightly job search to continue with.

    GSP
    I will say a prayer for the Kennedy family tonight.

  15. #315
    On August 26th, 2009 at 8:31 pm, Prince Consort said:

    Redpill:

    Saw your comment from 12:48 pm. The Bible you have has several books missing.

  16. #316
    On August 26th, 2009 at 8:54 pm, RetFireman said:

    Whether a king, a Senator, or a lowly street sweeper, sooner or later we all dance with The Reaper!

  17. #317
    On August 26th, 2009 at 8:58 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Prince Consort,
    Please link to the verse(s) in your Bible that mention “purgatory”.

  18. #318
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:11 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    purplepeep,

    You are a sanctimonious pain up the butt with your repeated badgering of poster after poster for a long day with your interpretation of what our host wants. (I expect that I am about to hear it again.)

    I read what MM wrote. I also read her standard statement that posters failing to comply with terms of use may lose their their posting privileges.

    What I did not see was where she authorized a posse of eager volunteers to try to nag to death every poster who they don’t approve of it.

    Why don’t you get a life and respond to the substance of what people say or just ignore them. It is not for you to police the forum and spend the whole day telling people to shut up.

  19. #319
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:12 pm, rooster said:

    Finally!!!
    I know his family love and miss him, but I am sure glad the good Lord has taken this parasite to finally answer for his sins.
    May God bless his family in their time of grief and sorrow.

  20. #320
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:32 pm, nyk said:

    rooster wrote:

    Finally!!!
    I am sure glad the good Lord has taken this parasite to finally answer for his sins.

    I hope the same about you. You are — even with the distance of the Internet providing you anonymity — such a horrible person.

  21. #321
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:35 pm, Jimmie said:

    Talk about vile and disgusting….How ‘bout the liberals already dancing in glee, before the body assumes room temperature … “now we can pass the KENNEDY Health Care Bill” and best yet we still don’t have to read it!!!! These….THE PEOPLE ….are really so stupid that they will now let us convert to Socialism because Ted is Dead????….

  22. #322
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:38 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:35 pm, Jimmie said:

    Talk about vile and disgusting….How ‘bout the liberals already dancing in glee, before the body assumes room temperature … “now we can pass the KENNEDY Health Care Bill” and best yet we still don’t have to read it!!!! These….THE PEOPLE ….are really so stupid that they will now let us convert to Socialism because Ted is Dead????….

    Not surprising. Remember the Paul Wellstone Pep Rally when he died?

  23. #323
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:38 pm, purplepeep said:

    purplepeep,

    You are a sanctimonious pain up the butt with your repeated badgering of poster after poster for a long day with your interpretation of what our host wants. (I expect that I am about to hear it again.)

    Actually, since you haven’t even bothered to yet read what Michelle wrote you’ll be reading it for the first time. Here’s the core – but, trust me, Michelle’s post in it’s entirety just isn’t all that long or too time consuming to read – I recommend you do so:

    Michelle wrote -
    “There is a time and place for political analysis and criticism. Not now.

    Yes, there will be a nauseating excess of MSM hagiographies and lionizations — and crass calls to pass the health care takeover to memorialize his death.

    That’s no excuse to demonstrate the same lack of restraint in the other direction. Not now.”

    So, the question for you then is: What part of that are you having such difficulty in comprehending and instead somehow interpret it to mean “Please rant like uncivilized, ill-mannered psychotics”?

    And, sorry, but I don’t apologize for respecting Michelle while I’m a guest in her house. You’ll just “have to deal”, as they say.

  24. #324
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:42 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    God I am so sick of the wall-to-wall EMK coverage already. And is going to go on for at least the next week? I need a pill that will put me out for a week without killing me.

  25. #325
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:44 pm, purplepeep said:

    nyk said:

    “rooster wrote:

    Finally!!!
    I am sure glad the good Lord has taken this parasite to finally answer for his sins.”

    I hope the same about you. You are — even with the distance of the Internet providing you anonymity — such a horrible person.

    Setting aside who’s “horrible or not horrible”, we are all destined to answer for our sins – as Michelle quoted from the Psalm:

    “If Thou, O Lord, shalt observe iniquities; Lord, who shall endure it?”

  26. #326
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    purplepeep >> And, sorry, but I don’t apologize for respecting Michelle while I’m a guest in her house.

    You’re doing a lot more than respecting MM and being a a guest in her house. You’re trying to be the boss of her house, you prig. (I bet you’re the one who always reminded the teacher that she forgot to collect the homework.)

    And, yes, I am dealing with it. I am dealing with it by getting in your face and pointing out what a righteous little busybody you are.

  27. #327
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm, purplepeep said:

    Pasadena Phil said:

    God I am so sick of the wall-to-wall EMK coverage already

    When I turn on the telly at times like this it’s only to watch reruns of shows like “Frazier” or “King Of Queens”. Otherwise that infernal machine ain’t on much. Can get the weather report – the only real important thing, lol, online anytime.

  28. #328
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:51 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    purplepeep, you are wise to keep the telly off. With the heavy burden that you have taken on your shoulders as the self-appointed MM assistant, you can not afford to be distracted. Someone could put up another unsuitable post at any moment!

  29. #329
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:54 pm, rooster said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:32 pm, nyk said:

    I hope the same about you. You are — even with the distance of the Internet providing you anonymity — such a horrible person.

    Good liberal moron you are nyk. I can’t say anything bad about a man who got away with murder,lived off the backs of honest taxpayers his whole life, but you,in your liberal, forgiving, loving, give peace a chance heart know that I am a horrible person.
    Go jump in a lake hypocrite.

  30. #330
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:54 pm, purplepeep said:

    Ignatius Reilly said:
    I am dealing with it.

    You’re still having a major problem dealing with this, as evidenced by your obvious embarrassment to address it:

    Michelle wrote -
    “There is a time and place for political analysis and criticism. Not now.

    Yes, there will be a nauseating excess of MSM hagiographies and lionizations — and crass calls to pass the health care takeover to memorialize his death.

    That’s no excuse to demonstrate the same lack of restraint in the other direction. Not now.”

    How do you read that to mean anything other than what it very clearly says, IR? Is there some “it depends on what is is” meaning you’re reading instead?

  31. #331
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:54 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    I’m going to bed, purplepeep.

    Do you think you could produce a summary in the morning of overnight unsuitable posting activity? That would be very helpful. I want to stay informed of how many bad posters you have sanctioned.

  32. #332
    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:55 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 9:42 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    God I am so sick of the wall-to-wall EMK coverage already. And is going to go on for at least the next week? I need a pill that will put me out for a week without killing me.

    It will go on much longer than that….certainly as long as they need to try guilt-trip people into supporting socialized health care “for Ted”.

  33. #333
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pm, purplepeep said:

    Ignatius Reilly said:
    I’m going to bed, purplepeep.

    Good idea, IR – lack of sleep causes crankiness and taking a nap is certainly much, much easier than addressing the question you are totally confused about here re: what Michelle wrote.

  34. #334
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:07 pm, purplepeep said:

    Republicanvet said:
    It will go on much longer than that….certainly as long as they need to try guilt-trip people into supporting socialized health care “for Ted”.

    I’m thinking that could backfire bigtime. It would have more meaning to the good ol’ boy D&R political class than the public at large. I can see the Wellstone Memorial Effect coming into play if they push it too far. Unintended consequences, y’know.

  35. #335
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:07 pm, Prince Consort said:

    Find one in yours that mentions “Trinity” and defines the doctrine as done in Nicea AD 325.

    Prayers for the dead, believed by every apostolically founded Christian Church (Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic, Armenian, the Church established by Thomas in India,and others), has its Scriptural basis in 2 Maccabees 12:42-45, which is also considered canon by the same Churches:

    and they turned to prayer, beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out. And the noble Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves free from sin, for they had seen with their own eyes what had happened because of the sin of those who had fallen.
    He also took up a collection, man by man, to the amount of two thousand drachmas of silver, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably, taking account of the resurrection.
    For if he were not expecting that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead.
    But if he was looking to the splendid reward that is laid up for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.

    This passage indicates that there is a state which would allow for such a process to happen. While the non-Catholic churches do not have as specific a definition of Purgatory, they do leave open the possibility of a final cleansing, so that one enters Heaven without stain. Holy Writ does not mention “Purgatory” as such; however, it mentions “saved as though through fire”, and the impossibility of anything unclean or impure entering Heaven.

    In the same way, “Trinity” does not appear in Scripture, nor is it defined very clearly. It took a Church Council to do so in the fourth century, against a man (Arius) who used Scripture to contend that “there was a time that the Word was not.”

    Conclusion: it does not take the word itself to appear in the Bible for the concept to be present.

  36. #336
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:12 pm, purplepeep said:

    Prince Consort said:

    Find one in yours that mentions “Trinity” and defines the doctrine as done in Nicea AD 325.

    Interesting diversion from death&politics talk, Prince. I’d hazard a guess the majority of non-creedal, non-orthodox (small “o”) Christian folks don’t have a grasp of just how much of what they believe was formulated and codified over the years. Just my guess, tho.

  37. #337
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:15 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:07 pm, purplepeep said:

    I’m thinking that could backfire bigtime. It would have more meaning to the good ol’ boy D&R political class than the public at large. I can see the Wellstone Memorial Effect coming into play if they push it too far. Unintended consequences, y’know.

    These nitwits in Washington don’t care, as evidenced by the head nitwit Pelosi in waiting only a couple hours to try capitalize on his death.

    They will go flat-out, complete with bussed in SEIU thugs to ram this through.

  38. #338
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:15 pm, Prince Consort said:

    I also wish to add that that is all I am going to say on the subject here for two reasons:

    1) I have no wish hijack this thread, and

    2) I have other, more important things to do, such as getting ready for the birth of Child #2 tomorrow morning (for those who don’t know, I’m english_queen’s husband – hence the name). I would suggest taking this topic to its source, which is the Anchoress’ blog. Posters there will be more than happy to discuss the matter.

    Lastly, for redpill: I hope I’m being respectful, since while we differ in this matter, I want any debate to be done in a courteous manner, and I always fear that I’ll step over the line. God bless, and good night to all.

  39. #339
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:16 pm, realitycheck said:

    Death is God’s way of imposing term limits on Congress, since the American People don’t have that power.

    My respects to his family.

  40. #340
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:18 pm, Prince Consort said:

    Boy, am I getting tired.

    The matter is purgatory (other comments in between), I have no wish to hijack this thread, and I need to get some sleep. Lord knows that’ll be scarce for a while…

  41. #341
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:24 pm, nlebou said:

    I haven’t read all these posts but can someone please tell me how in the he!! can they bury this man in Arlington Cemetery?

  42. #342
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:26 pm, purplepeep said:

    Republicanvet:
    These nitwits in Washington don’t care, as evidenced by the head nitwit Pelosi in waiting only a couple hours to try capitalize on his death.

    I agree, Republicanvet. The passing of TK will crassly embolden them.

    They will go flat-out, complete with bussed in SEIU thugs to ram this through.

    Yeah, but they have to move the American populace as a whole – and the populace is headed the other way. I think what will need to be done is note it’s still “a skunk by any other name” and keep on the attack of the specific awful underpinnings of the proposed gov’t healthcare takeover. It’ll be a battle that’ll carry on for awhile yet.

  43. #343
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:28 pm, KVal57 said:

    Sorry, Michelle: I detest the man as much in death as in life.

    Ted, your legacy can be boiled down to THIS:
    “Women are for groping and raping; Republicans are weak, but make great targets. An illegal Mexican in every trailer park and a blonde in every pond”.
    God may forgive you, but I am not in the mood.
    I hope your family chooses not to cremate you, as the subsequent explosion will be heard in China.

  44. #344
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:32 pm, swede said:

    I haven’t read all these posts but can someone please tell me how in the he!! can they bury this man in Arlington Cemetery?

    With a backhoe and some shovels. I think his public (dis)service gives him the right to be interred there.

  45. #345
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:37 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:24 pm, nlebou said:

    I haven’t read all these posts but can someone please tell me how in the he!! can they bury this man in Arlington Cemetery?

    He’s JFK’s brother so there will be political h@11 to pay if he is not.

    I hear you. The pilot of UA FLight 77 who died on 9/11 was a Marine Pilot for 8 years. Somehow they found some of his remains. He was denied an Arlington Cemetary burial.

  46. #346
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:39 pm, purplepeep said:

    nlebou said:

    I haven’t read all these posts but can someone please tell me how in the he!! can they bury this man in Arlington Cemetery?

    Among the various Arlington interment criteria is:
    “Any former member of the Armed Forces who served on active duty (other than for training) and who held any of the following positions:

    An elective office of the U.S. Government (such as a term in Congress).”

    His military career consisted pretty much of being an honor guard in the USA and he mustered out as a PFC.

    At any rate, I think it’s covered legally one way or another. If you’re asking if he deserves to be laid to rest there is a whole different matter, of course.

  47. #347
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:39 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Prince Consort,

    1) Thank you for your response.

    2) I’m praying for everything to go smoothly for your wife and second child. Congratulations!

    3) I don’t know if/when you’ll get back to seeing this, but I agree with you that the word “Trinity” does not appear in Scripture and it does not take the word itself to appear in the Bible for the concept to be present. The concept is present here:

    Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

    Matthew 28:19 (New King James Version)

  48. #348
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:45 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:24 pm, nlebou said:

    I haven’t read all these posts but can someone please tell me how in the he!! can they bury this man in Arlington Cemetery?

    Arlington Cemetery being for veterans is so passe on the left.

    Remember Clinton giving burial plots there to big donors in the late 90′s?

    He’s likely to be planted there next to JFK….while the rest of the cemetery is running out of space.

  49. #349
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:49 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Very interesting…

    The following reconstruction, developed from general descriptions of the scene, numerous eyewitness interviews, investigative reports, and Kennedy’s statements that have been published in newspapers and magazines, explains why events unfolded as they did.

    This approach demonstrates conclusively that the only hypothesis that fits the overall picture is that there were three people in the car. This theory has been mentioned in the media from time to time. For instance, Herb Caen, a well-known columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle, noted in his column of July 9, 1981, that locals have come to believe that this was the case. In a step-by-step process, however, this reconstruction shows for the first time exactly how such a theory is the only credible explanation.

  50. #350
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:52 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:26 pm, purplepeep said:

    Yeah, but they have to move the American populace as a whole – and the populace is headed the other way. I think what will need to be done is note it’s still “a skunk by any other name” and keep on the attack of the specific awful underpinnings of the proposed gov’t healthcare takeover. It’ll be a battle that’ll carry on for awhile yet.

    It’s been clear for a while they don’t give a tinkers d@mn about the populace.

    The past couple days have been headlines, leaked emails, leaked coordination plans, etc., about how they will be staging town halls will their selected union thugs.

    The media will fall right in line and start declaring the populace changed their mind because of Kennedy, and now support socialized health care.

    Keep this in mind. A couple days ago, the Obamunist said it was no longer about health care reform, but insurance reform.

    Kennedy died, and every leftist within media earshot has been talking about his support for HEALTH CARE reform…nothing about insurance, and that is what they will push.

    I hate to sound defeatist given the public’s response in town halls already, but the media had nobody to point to for supporting it because Obama’s thugs have not been organized to any great extent yet.

    I guess it takes time to organize street money, bus charters, reserving union halls, printing signs, getting purple shirts from the cleaners, etc.

  51. #351
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:56 pm, graysonret said:

    They say we should honor Kennedy by passing the health insurance bill. It strikes me as odd, using the word “honor” and “Kennedy” in the same sentence. Well, let the dead remain in peace, whoever they were. It may not be too much longer before I take the trip too. He will be a man that no-one will remember 20 years from now. Students will regard him as another name to memorize for a test and forget. There were many “memorable” senators before, but are not remembered, today. He will be in the shadow of his brother, John, who will be remembered, in the future, as an assassinated President only, much like Garfield and McKinley. Only students of history, like myself, will know who he was, and what he did or did not accomplish and whether, in the end, he had any influence on the country or not. The political atmosphere of the future will judge him, as worthwhile to know or not. Perhaps he will be consigned to history as W.E.B. Du Bois; the name is familiar, but the man is not.

  52. #352
    On August 26th, 2009 at 10:58 pm, joao1960 said:

    someone asked me what i thought Teddy’s legacy kwould be. I answered in two words, “Mary Jo.”

  53. #353
    On August 27th, 2009 at 12:00 am, purplepeep said:

    graysonret said:
    He will be in the shadow of his brother, John, who will be remembered, in the future, as an assassinated President only, much like Garfield and McKinley.

    I’d disagree re:JFK, graysonnet. I think you’re missing at least one very important factor. The national media did not exist in Garfield & McKinley’s time. I think there may be a few snippets of silent, herky jerky moving images but nothing such as the first televised Presidential debate between Nixon & Kennedy.

    Certainly the only other assassinated president, Lincoln, hasn’t been forgotten. What people will remember in years to come can be tricky to predict, as we can see from Lincoln himself. In the Gettysburg Address he declared “the world will little note nor long remember what we say here”. Obviously, he got that wrong.

  54. #354
    On August 27th, 2009 at 12:22 am, bansharia said:

    OT:
    Prince Consort,
    Prayers are with you and EnglishQueen
    in your time of such joy.
    ,B

  55. #355
    On August 27th, 2009 at 12:41 am, graysonret said:

    Purplepeep, Lincoln was involved in a civil war that changed the whole country. It changed the power of the country from states to national government. Of course, he would be remembered. He is “worshipped” today, despite his faults. But, this blog isn’t about the civil war. The national media did exist at that time; don’t forget Hearst. Newspapers were the “media” then. John Kennedy will be remembered, 50 years from now, as a President who was assassinated. Nothing else. Bay of Pigs will be forgotten. Does anyone remember his speech to the Economic Club of N.Y., in 1963, which he stated that the “parodox of economics” was to reduce taxes in order to increase revenue to the government? I doubt it. It won’t be remembered, because it doesn’t fit the mold and is contradictory to the political philosophy today. McKinley and Garfield died in a time, quite different than our own. Does anyone, other than a student of history, know that McKinley got us out of the panic of 1893, or was the President during the Spanish-American War? No, most remember him as a President who was assassinated. That’s it. To equate John Kennedy with Lincoln is ridiculous. His importance in the overall history of the country is minimal, as regarded 50 years from now. Ted Kennedy will be forgotten.

  56. #356
    On August 27th, 2009 at 1:56 am, purplepeep said:

    graysonret said:

    To equate John Kennedy with Lincoln is ridiculous.

    I wasn’t making an equation, graysonret, just pointing out that I think it’s a risky proposition trying to predict who\what will be remembered next year, much less 50 years from now. As I mentioned even Abe got it wrong.

    I think it’s easy and pretty normal to bring one’s personal political bias factor influence such predictions. But that’s subjective ground, not objective-based. I expect someone who favors a liberal worldview would come up with polar opposite “future histories”. It’s an interesting IMHO intellectual exercise, though. I suspect such speculations have always been made by folks throughout history.

    Bay of Pigs will be forgotten.

    Could be, but it’s already nearly 50 years out and we’re still talking about it.

    Does anyone remember his speech to the Economic Club of N.Y., in 1963, which he stated that the “parodox of economics” was to reduce taxes in order to increase revenue to the government?

    I do – and ,in fact, that speech is one reason why Rush states that JFK was a “dittohead”.

    Newspapers were the “media” then.

    You’re missing my point, graysonret. With the onset of the ability to preserve audio and video came a sort of “immortality”. People keep impressions and they remember “soundbites”, a constantly present, realtime media that’s delivered in devices such as blackberries just reinforces the memories and soundbites.

    Folks can be see a JFK speech in a matter of seconds and a few clicks. I’d venture that not very many people have heard a speech by McKinley or Garfield, though I think there might be a rare old disc recording or two.

    On the other hand, their memory clicks on at seeing – or just hearing the audio – of:
    “Ich bin ein Berliner” or “Tear down this wall”.

    If I run off just a top o’ my head list re: JFK, I come up with Bay of Pigs, Cuban missile crisis, Peace Corps, military expansion/involvement in Vietnam, that West Berlin speech, the “Torch has been passed”/”Ask not” inaugural speech, the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, civil rights, the space program.

    It’s pretty hard to forget the time when the world was on the brink of nuclear war. Or the first moon landing in 1969, as JFK proposed.

    At any rate, I think this is an “agree to disagree area”. The nice thing is that neither one of us will be able to prove the other wrong come 2100 – unless Obamacare is promising eternal youth, of course.

  57. #357
    On August 27th, 2009 at 3:14 am, Jason L. said:

    On August 26th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, purplepeep said:

    You’re certainly welcome to emulate the lunatic fringe left and Chris Matthews if you so desire, Jason. There are even the headcases who protest at funerals to cite as role models, if you wish.

    Thanks for twisting my words and their meanings, puprplepeeps. I never said anything, nor alluded to, protesting anyone’s funeral, nor using the same venom and slather that Matthews and his ilk tend to use towards conservatives. What I meant was that I have no intention of eulogizing a man who is responsible for the deaths of millions, whose political and governmental decisions have made the U.S. of A. a much worse place, and who helped to open the floodgates for illegal immigration. And just so you know, purple, I did read Ms. Malkin’s request, and I ahve been cordial in my dissent towards Se. K’s eulogizing by the left. Take or leave it, my friend.

    As I alluded before, I’m sadly used to a generation of males lacking even such basic civilities as opening doors for women or taking one’s hat-cap off when entering a house of worship.

    So am I. But if you are going to accuse me of uncivility, then just have at it, come on out and od it, but be prepared for a rebuttal to your opinion, and please, do go back and read my posts, and feel free to point out any uncivility I’ve shown. In the words of one of my Football Coachss, “Put up or shut up…”

    Usually when someone intones the Royal “We” I wondering if it’s a case of worms or what, but I digress. (Conjoined twins, mayhaps?)

    Since you seem to be addressing more than one person, is it not grammatically appropos to use the first person plural we? And, again, thanks for dragging this discussion we are having down to an inappropriate level. Tacking liberally in a discussion is not really a wise course of action.

    Obviously you either refused to, or were unable to, read what our hostess wrote above and instead you just went off on a series of Pavlovian political emotional explosions solely as a result of seeing the word “Kennedy”.

    Yes, yes, when you have nothign else in your “bag of ‘tricks’”, why not attack a person’s intelligence? That always *cough* “works” (and is, sadly, another trick of liberals and the left: attack the messenger, not the message [usually because they can't attack the message]). Yes, purple, as I mentioned above, I did read Ms. Malkin’s request. Now, if you will, please point out where I have been uncivil. Again, “put up or shut up”. And, quite in an opposite flow to your assumptions (never assume: ’tis always dangerous), I admire Ted Kennedy’s elder brothers. They were far more conservative than Sen. Kennedey was. Thanks for asking though….

  58. #358
    On August 27th, 2009 at 4:25 am, purplepeep said:

    Jason L. said:
    I never said anything, nor alluded to, protesting anyone’s funeral, nor using the same venom and slather that Matthews and his ilk tend to use towards conservatives.

    Let’s look at the context, Jason:

    What purplepeep and others in her eforget is that the left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) actually DID do that to President Reagan: I watched Chris Matthews smear him.

    To which I replied with basically a “so what’s that to you here”? I agree with Michelle’s view that “Well, they do it, too!” is usually a pretty bad excuse. If Michelle had written a entry about media hypocrisy where everyone was having at the media your off-topic complaint might fight in. But that’s not the case here.

    I have no intention of eulogizing a man who is responsible for the deaths of millions

    Again, that’s just so much total emotional hyperbole strawmen. Can you point out where anyone, much less Michelle, even suggested you to “eulogize” anyone??

    By the way, assuming you’re speaking of abortion there;it was legalized under President Nixon and most of the Presidents of our country since that time have been Republican/Conservative. So when you’re looking for comparison points on which to build self-righteousness you have a whole lotta people to point fingers at. I’d say the same to self-righteous loony lefties who go off on derangement syndrome tirades about GOP leaders who’ve “killed millions” (e.g. Bush killing a million+ Iraqis)

    Since you seem to be addressing more than one person, is it not grammatically appropos to use the first person plural we?

    I have no idea what you’re saying there, Jason. I can only comment to one person at a time, e.g. you-now-here. It makes me giggle when anyone other than the Queen of England employs the term instead of “I” or “me”. But I believe even the Queen has dropped the usage.

    “you just went off on a series of Pavlovian political emotional explosions solely as a result of seeing the word “Kennedy”.”

    Yes, yes, when you have nothign else in your “bag of ‘tricks’”, why not attack a person’s intelligence?

    Nope, that’s speaking to emotionalism, not intelligence. Knee-jerk reactions are not wrong in and of themselves. When they come out at the wrong time and place, that’s wrong. In this case, more to the point, it’s disrespectful to Michelle’s extremely clear plea to set aside the knee-jerk reaction for a day. It was your emotional reasoning that somehow incorrectly processed her plea into a demand for a eulogy.

    I admire Ted Kennedy’s elder brothers.

    I believe I noted it was some other commenter’s – not yours – own over-the-top emotional reaction that was, quite frankly, not just incredibly disrespectful but truly mentally unbalanced re: the Kennedy brothers.

  59. #359
    On August 27th, 2009 at 4:45 am, bansharia said:

    Hmmm 27 hours and purp is still being rude guest in MM’s house.
    a hoot

  60. #360
    On August 27th, 2009 at 9:14 am, Ignatius Reilly said:

    On August 27th, 2009 at 4:45 am, bansharia said:

    Hmmm 27 hours and purp is still being rude guest in MM’s house.
    a hoot

    LOL

    I’ve just had my first look of the day and see that the manic forum monitor, purplepeep, looks to have gone through a second night without sleep, so important is her self-appointed role as assistant to MM.

    Have you gone off your meds, purplepeep?

    I have seen some pajamed lunatics in my years on the internet, but I think you may be the ne plus ultra.

    I’ll bet all those cats are really getting agitated. You better stir yourself to put out some food for them.

  61. #361
    On August 27th, 2009 at 10:47 am, Tazed and Confused said:

    “The Bible teaches plainly that what we are when we die, whether converted or unconverted, whether believers or unbelievers, whether godly or ungodly, so shall we rise again when the last trumpet sounds. There is no repentance in the grave: there is no conversion after the last breath is drawn. Now is the time to believe in Christ, and to lay hold of eternal life.”

    — JC Ryle

  62. #362
    On August 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am, RetFireman said:

    Oh look…my self imposed 24 hour moritorium has expired.

  63. #363
    On August 27th, 2009 at 2:40 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    Since its been over 24 hours since Teddy Kennedy has died, its now to speak about the dearly departed:

    I hope you are enjoying your time in He11 while Mary Jo is safely in the arms of her loving Lord.

    I have not, will not show any more respect for this POS of a Senator than has been shown to far greater men and women that he wasn’t worthy to shine their boots or step a foot on a ship-of-war.

    Teddy is a prime example of what the desire for power leads too: A double standard, shredding the US Constitution, giving aid and comfort to our enemies and looking after himself while the rest of us suffer due to the laws he helped write.

    So if there is a sense of justice in the next life, it would be this:
    a) He gets a warm spot in hades with a bunkmate that calls him “Beiotch” (I heard Sadam Hussein’s cell is available)
    b) That he is repeatedly waterboarded in he11′s swimming pool-8 feet deep and covered in molten lava rather than Martha’s finest vineyard.
    c) Teddy saves a spot for the four animals that murdered Christian and Newsome and that he becomes one of these animals next “Beoitch”
    d) That he recieves the same amount of compassion that he showed Mary Jo Kopechne ie NONE!

    GSP
    :P

  64. #364
    On August 27th, 2009 at 3:58 pm, purplepeep said:

    Ignatius Reilly said:
    I’ve just had my first look of the day and see that the manic forum monitor, purplepeep

    I’m honored that I made you feel guilty for both refusing to read what Michelle wrote and for disrespecting her. Next time you’ll think twice and won’t need to feel so ashamed and embarrassed again.

    You’re welcome for the lesson, IR. It steams you now, but your parent(s) should have taught you about basic manners a long time ago. But better late than never!

  65. #365
    On August 28th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, RetFireman said:

    There are an awful lot of waitresses in WAshington who now can feel safe about going to work without being groped, accosted, and “sandwiched” as well as any number of women on the beaches as well as nightclubs and elsewhere in Kennebunkport and elsewhee who no longer need fear being fondled, accosted and raped by Uncle Teddy and his nephews that he was dhowing the ropes to.

  66. #366
    On August 28th, 2009 at 11:04 pm, Jason L. said:

    Purplepeeps, nice duck-and-dodge, regarding my question asking you when and where I said anything about protesting Sen. Kennedy’s funeral. Again, typical liberal tactic: when the accusations cannot be proven, duck and dodge, or shriek and flail.

    If we are going to talk about moral grounds, then lets talk moral grounds, purplepeeps: which of the 1973 judges on the Supreme Court did republican presidents nominate? More specifically, which ones that voted up or down? Further, how many of the Wars of the 20th Century were started under Democrats’ watch, and which ones did Republican Presidents have to clean up? If we are going to talk moral high ground, the njust come out and do it, purplepeeps, because Democratic Presidents have been responsible for the US of A becoming involved in both World Wars, Korea, and VietNam, and in the last two, it took Republican Presidents to clean up the mess left over by the democrat predecessors. And the abortion issue? How many of those Republican Presidents had Democrat Majorities in Congress, which promised to KO any anti-abortion bill proposed by the sitting GOP President? Go ahead and look it up; I’ll wait. What was that, again, about a “strawman”?

    I’m mnot asurprised you don’t understand the use of the word “we” in this instance, purplepeeps, so since oyu seem to be a bit ignorant about the use of proper English Grammar, let me educate you: Since you are attacking and rebutting Conservatives in general, purplepeeps, who are taking this time to dissent (notice, I typed DISSENT, not “protest”) agaisnt Sen. Kennedy, it is entirely proper for me to use the plural 1st person “we”. The reason you don’t seem to understand, and are going off on needless and senseless grammatical tangents is because your arguments don’t hold water, and you must obfuscate the point by adding confusatory dalliance in order to make up for your position’s weak stance.

    Finally, knee-jerk reaction it is not. Sen. Kennedy is known for his uber-liberal stances, his selling out of the allies the US of A promised ot defend, and opening the borders to the illegal laines of 1965 giving us the problem we have otday. My reaction is not a “knee jerk” reaction as you erroneously imply, but a well thought out response to the sainting that is being carried out by the MSM.

    And to end with, again, the charge that conservatives are somehow mentally unbalanced is another trick by the left when there is no sound, resourced argument to proffer. President Kennedy, and Attorney General Kennedy were far more conservative than Sen. Kennedy ever was, and that is just the plain truth….

  67. #367
    On August 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am, pdigaudio said:

    As any of my regular readers know, I didn’t show one iota of restraint when The Swimmer assumed room temperature. Hell, did their side show any restraint let alone compassion when Ronald Reagan died? Tony Snow? Bob Novak? Charlton Heston?

    Not just no, but HELL NO! Talk about true hate. And what do you think their side will do when Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and Rush Limbaugh die?

    As for the late Senator from Chappaquiddick being the Lion of the Senate who drew bipartisan consensus, what bipartisan on anything, unless you define bipartisan as RINOs dropping principles to agree with him (John McCain, call your office). Every time a Republican and The Swimmer came to an agreement, it was always on The Swimmer’s terms and principles.

    The only reason he’s being buried at Arlington is they need the fat and the booze in him to keep the eternal flame burning. His military service? Submarine duty at Chappaquiddick.

    And once again, Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.

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