Worshipping power only works on earth. Learning that worshipping power is an evil thing is your assigned task.

….Pol Pot, Stalin, Castro, Guevara, Tung, among others, could not have agreed more….
Trolls never live in peace.
Rio
Semper Fi!

Speak for yourself.

Your intentions are meaningless to your God, because he is so ‘perfect.’ No, your intentions do not matter, only your weakness. The weakness he BUILT you with. And your compulsions. The compulsions he BUILT you with.

So ALMIGHTY GOD that suffers NO FEAR, and NEVER HAS, judges YOU who has already been condemned at your creation to live in a state of constant fear (at varying levels) for three score and ten. It does not matter to that monstrous being how hard you try to overcome the weaknessess and compulsions he forced on you.

IT judges YOU. Because IT has the POWER.

Your God is a MONSTER, JS. But then, volcano Gods always are.

If there really is a God, YOUR sick image of ‘God’ will be ruling only in HELL.

You and your ilk worship THE POWER. Worship of the Power WILL burn you in Hell if there really is a Good God.

Worshipping power only works on earth. Learning that worshipping power is an evil thing is your assigned task.

YOU are FAILING.

So just how do you want to react to the truth that Jesus Christ’s death on the cross purchased a forgiveness that is available even to this sorry excuse of a human being? That from God’s point of view we are all equally guilty and in need of the same sacrifice of His Son in exactly the same way as this slime, as Jeffrey Dahlmer and Mother Theresa.

And the way I know a person understands that is when they fall to their knees overwhelmed by God’s grace and mercy.

Yes execution is more than warranted. But throwing around “Christian compassion” as you have is sadly ignorant and demonstrates a lack of understanding of your own sin and position before a perfectly and infinitely Holy God.

Roland said:
Do you really understand it, Emjem? If you do, would you please tell me how to say what I am saying in a way “the ladies in this forum don’t take it the wrong way” instead of just accusing me of being offensive? I keep repeating I am not talking about individual women, yet you all here keep taking it as if I am talking about YOU, the individual.

Uggghhh, Roland, I do undestand. I’ve taken many women’s studies classes only to find how one-sided much of feminist history can be. It just feels like you’re generalizing is all about a whole group of people that, on the outside, look similar, but think very differently when given a closer look.

I want to ask you something, Roland. Do you know what it’s like to be dismissed just based on your gender? There are some men who will never look beyond the surface to see the person inside. When you have people like your own father and grandfather dismiss you because you weren’t born a boy, it stays with you.

Or are you simply saying men should not speak some unpleasant political truths around women because it hurts their feelings? Egad. How liberal.

No, I’m not suggesting it in the slightest way. Yes, there are unpleasant political truths about women that I’ve become painfully aware of. I have problems with the women in my own family. Some women, like my mother, do not like confrontation or to hurt anybody else’s feelings but feel safe enabling unhealthy behaviors. Some women, like my sister, will always treat other women, like me, like bugs under their shoe because they’re competitive, spiteful wenches.

I’m not liberal. If anything, I wish polls would stop using the whole gender bloc voting question. Or at least split it up to give the gender question some diversity. When you live in a world where a PC-driven media wants you to think, act, and vote like everybody else, you’d understand where I’m coming from.

BTW, when I brought this up I thought I was pointing out the obvious. I thought everyone here knew about the gender gap. It was not my intention to hijack the thread. So I’ll shut up now. Deeply disappointed.

I don’t think you intentionally tried to hijack but brought up something to think about. However, I don’t think the gender gap is a fully fleshed out reason why women and men approach the death penalty differently. Please, do not feel discouraged. I’m gladdened that men (and women) think about such things.

I think men (and women) have more in common than they might think. Yet, they still act and feel differently. I wouldn’t have it any other way. I just wish we were more honest with one another and got past the gender stereotypes that still have stuck around just like I wish our society could get beyond a PC-driven culture that pushes a false homogeneity.
That is all.

BOB said:
I think the problem is that it’s impossible to say what I am quoting here from the Gallup Poll that I referenced without someone misinterpreting the purpose:

“Although a majority of both men and women support the death penalty, men are much more likely to do so than are women. More than 7 in 10 men (74%) support the death penalty, compared with 62% of women.”

Look, Bob, I think that you need to clarify what you’re saying. Now, there will definitely be some feminists out there who will say, “you’re a sexist pig, Bob.” I’m not one of them.

When these statistics are quoted, some individuals believe it is being said that they must be soft on the death penalty. There are all kinds of statistics that define what different groups of people say, in polls, about many different subjects, are their beliefs. In no case do the results of these polls mean that every person in the group being polled thinks the same way. Some of the responses here seem to miss that very important point.

I’m not missing anything. I get what you’re saying, like I tried to say in my previous response. I’m not railing against you. However, what bugs me is that there are some, and I mean some, folks out there who look at women and dismiss them. I’ve gotten that my entire life, even by fellow women. There are women out there who are just as sexist as there are men. Sad to say.

The Gallup poll is the only one I actually looked at, and yes the fact that it shows men 74% to women 62% who say they favor the death penality surprized me. I would have thought the difference was larger. Still, as the poll said, it is statistally significant.

I’m glad you brought up this poll, Bob. Yes, there is a slightly bigger percentage of men that support the death penality than women but I really don’t think it’s as significant as you do. I would like to see this poll broken down more such as what the percentage of married versus single women who support the death penalty. I would like to see that analyzed.

Once again though, this poll and/or any other poll has nothing to do with what an individual thinks about the death penalty or anything else.

Seems clear and without controversy to me.

I also undestand this. Statistical exercises like polls can only reveal so much. What is controversial is, perhaps, why Gallup cannot, perhaps, break up the polls into specific groups more such as married/single status. However, sometimes marriage doesn’t change a woman. Some women, like my liberal sister, still think everybody is their friend, and it’s a cumbaya world.

I just think, in some ways, that women are enclosed in voting blocs a little too much. I have nothing in common with many liberal women (and believe me I’ve had liberal girlfriends) except gender. I have some of the biggest problems with women because of how they treat other women. In the workplace, I’ve become acquainted with some women who are the biggest backstabbers and ingrates whereas men have never given me any trouble.

I hate to sound a tired old meme, but women are a lot more complex, though I’m gladdened that there are a lot more of us who have our heads on straight. I just wonder how many who support the death penalty would actually see it through or if they voice support to feel better about having some kind of control over the animals that do stuff like Cobbins.

Polls don’t reveal everything. Gallup needs to have a question such as: “Would you vote for the death penalty if you found a preponderance of evidence indicated that a murderer was not only elibible but you found yourself on a jury of their peers.” Something like that.

I pity the teacher…

GSP
“This is Sparta!”

Food for thought: The best-selling author and former Manhattan Sex Crimes Prosecutor, Linda Fairstein, referenced stats in one of her her books, that women judge the victims in rape trials more harshly than men, which is different than saying they are more ‘lenient.’ (I can’t remember if that included rape/murder trials.) I tried to find the reference but it was not readily available and I have to go to work.

Cobbins’ trial was held in Knoxville; the jury was shipped in from Nashville. It was comprised of four black women, two black men, one Asian man, three white men and two white women.

Cobbins’ sisters and aunts were shipped in from Memphis to plead for his life (hadn’t seen him in eight years) and many around here think that’s what turned the trick with the jury. It only took one.

rowsdower said:
Letalvis Cobbins got life without parole
So that means he should be out in time to be a 2012 Democrat campaign worker and poll watcher.

…and nominee for Czar of Race Relations during the second term.

I just made myself sick…gonna puke, then go to work. Y’all have a good day.

The trial of the black thugs who raped and murdered Channon Christian and Chris Newsom, a white couple in Knoxville, Tennessee has been going on for some time now…

Letalvis Cobbins got life without parole

So that means he should be out in time to be a 2012 Democrat campaign worker and poll watcher.