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1. #1
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:06 am, RobM1981 said:

   Sounds good to me. Let them speak. It’s a free country.

   Just make sure that if they say something you disagree with, you ask the Pastor (or Rabbi, or Priest, etc.) to give you equal time.

   Now… if you don’t GET that equal time, then it’s time to make a stink.

2. #2
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:10 am, stillontheroad said:

   This is so typical of the Liberal Wad, demonize Christianity, belittle everything associated with religion except when it comes to pushing an agenda. Now the Wad is Holier than thou and religion is just another name for Union. This tack and behavior makes me sick on so many levels I cannot begin to count em.

3. #3
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:14 am, b-cat said:

   I have been to many local churches in this very left wing town. Most of them preach liberalism not scripture.

   One verse is read, followed by preaching for the better part of an hour about something completely different.

4. #4
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:16 am, RedDog said:

   Union = communists acquiring political power outside the democratic process…. and make the masses think it’s all for the benefit of the “poor”.

5. #5
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:16 am, sonofdy said:

   Those shared goals create a natural bond between us. That bond is even stronger this year as we stand poised to bring about real change in our country from reforming health care to stopping wage theft and making our workplaces more democratic.

   And everywhere that they manage to do that, the factories close and move to China. You would think they would notice the trend.

6. #6
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am, RobM1981 said:

   b-cat,

   Did you ever stand up and say “baloney?”

   I’m past the point of extending respect to people who trample on the truth, or my rights – even if they are “of the cloth.”

   Just make sure you know your Bible verses…

7. #7
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:20 am, Dexter Alarius said:

   Every major religion teaches respect for work and the moral duty to care for the poor and foster social justice-the same goals that the union movement holds.

   Oh, sorry. I thought the union movement’s goals were to bully and claw every bit of benefit and wage increase they can extort from the companies they work for. In the case of the UAW, committing murder-suicide in the process.

8. #8
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:23 am, HomeoftheBrave said:

   Those shared goals create a natural bond between us. That bond is even stronger this year as we stand poised to bring about real change in our country from reforming health care to stopping wage theft and making our workplaces more democratic.

   Gee, unions talking about “stopping wage theft”…. now THERE is an oxymoron, spouted by a moron.

9. #9
   On September 1st, 2009 at 10:23 am, RobM1981 said:

   Care for the poor? Yes.

   Social justice? First please define that, and then show me where in the Bible “social justice” is mentioned as being a duty of government.

   We have obligations to other believers. If you are a Christian or a Jew the Bible is loaded with references of how we are to care for other believers.

   But I don’t recall “big government” and “organized labor” being mentioned.

10. #10
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:25 am, njrazd said:

    Every major religion teaches respect for work and the moral duty to care for the poor and foster social justice.

    From your own treasure, not from the government largesse. It means sharing your good fortune as an individual and through the efforts of your church.

    So I guess *they* get to determine when the separation-of-church-and-state line gets crossed. Seems that any talk at all about politics should remove that church from the tax shelter, regardless of what side you’re espousing.

11. #11
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:25 am, Freddy said:

    Is there any word of when they will be appearing at the Trinity United Church of Christ?

12. #12
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:32 am, Kingfish said:

    The way I see it is Jug Ears already has the Bully Pulpit, so why should this be any different?

13. #13
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:34 am, pueblo1032 said:

    All US animals in the barnyard are equal… Only, some are more equal than others… Truer words were never written…

14. #14
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:35 am, conservativesRus said:

    stopping wage theft

    So I guess the unions are against withholding tax? And against “graduated” tax systems. I guess they should then also be against sameness in wages (every honest person knows some workers work harder and accomplish more than other workers – paying them the same is theft from the one who accomplishes more).

15. #15
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:35 am, TooMuchTime said:

    Hold the phone, Central!

    Didn’t the unions get a bailout? I’m sure that if you “follow the (TARP) money” you’ll find the unions have a pretty good portion.

    If so, then that makes them beholden to the gov’t. Separation of church and state anyone?

16. #16
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:43 am, battleaxe said:

    What about the moral duty not to skim union dues for golf courses and congressional bribes?

17. #17
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:52 am, iamsaved said:

    If my observation while in attendance at Bible believing, Bible teaching churches is correct, you won’t find any liberal speakers getting up in front of those congregations. The vast majority are very conservative both spiritually, socially and politically. A liberal in one of these churches is as rare as a born again Christian in a homosexual lead liberal denomination.

18. #18
    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:57 am, cheapseat said:

    cover up communist takeover of america with platitudes of religion when the world knows that the first thing outlawed under communism is religion. why do you suppose that for the last 50 plus years the looney left has been trying to rewrite the constitution to say freedom FROM religion, not freedom OF religion. (of course that rule only applies to you white christian bible totoin, gun totin, rednecks) not to black liberal churches where they been politickin from the pulpit for generations, eh reverand wright, jackson, and sharpton.

19. #19
    On September 1st, 2009 at 11:01 am, Flyoverman said:

    Most anyone who had kids has been subjected to be guilted into doing something. YAWN….. knock yourselves out guys!

20. #20
    On September 1st, 2009 at 11:04 am, Flyoverman said:

    and making our workplaces more democratic.

    Just so you know that expression is Marxist code language. It has to do with implementing Marxism, not democracy.

21. #21
    On September 1st, 2009 at 11:07 am, beenthere said:

    Definitely look for the union label on the rock. Then turn the rock over. You might just find a Democrat functionary underneath. Now, for those who are cool with that, fine. Head on over this Sunday and knock yourself out.

    [Personally, I would prefer to avoid the Purple Monster or at the very least, think twice about it, but that's just me.]

    As an example, here is how the local Univeralist Unitarian church describes its upcoming (9/6) Sunday Sermon:

    A group of citizens from Snohomish County has worked together for more than a year to draft a human rights ordinance for Snohomish County. This ordinance provides tools for individuals to use when they feel they have been the victims of any sort of discrimination. It seeks to bring parties together through dispute resolution methods rather than expensive and divisive litigation.

    [Emphasis mine.]

    Now here is the presenter (from wikipedia.org):

    Luis Moscoso is the Director of Government Relations for the Washington Public Employees Association/UFCW Local 365 in Olympia, Washington. He oversees and coordinates the WPEA’s Legislative-Political program and issues advocacy agendas. He is responsible for evaluating and facilitating the union’s strategic, operations and education programs. Mr. Moscoso is serving his second term as Secretary of the Washington State Democratic Party.

    Have a question what his “dispute resolution methods” are? Come to the party and ask away.

22. #22
    On September 1st, 2009 at 11:08 am, 7thson said:

    The fools who believe that they can live any way they want while their pastors preach from the Oprah book of the month and still be “Christians” are the same fools who believe the union dogma. Just give money and the union takes care of this life; the liberal “church” takes care of the next life. They will be sadly mistaken believing in either.

23. #23
    On September 1st, 2009 at 11:25 am, b-cat said:

    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am, RobM1981 said:
    b-cat,

    Did you ever stand up and say “baloney?”

    Yes, more than once. Sorry it took awhile to get back, guitar practice.

24. #24
    On September 1st, 2009 at 11:39 am, txvet2 said:

    Meanwhile, a coach and a principal are facing criminal charges in Florida for conducting a prayer prior to a meeting at their school.

25. #25
    On September 1st, 2009 at 12:08 pm, tre said:

    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:14 am, b-cat said:
    I have been to many local churches in this very left wing town. Most of them preach liberalism not scripture.

    One verse is read, followed by preaching for the better part of an hour about something completely different

    Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    Quote those verses to those “False Prophet”, b-cat.

26. #26
    On September 1st, 2009 at 12:09 pm, no2pcbs1 said:

    unions much like the administration no longer serve any useful purpose. they have become parasites depending on democrats to steal money from taxpayers to support their addiction to other’s money. unions are money junkies, stop the money theft and unions die.

27. #27
    On September 1st, 2009 at 12:32 pm, vickisoup said:

    …a new vision for justice in our communities.

    This is code-speak for reparations, and it’s not a very secret code.
    

28. #28
    On September 1st, 2009 at 12:37 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    On September 1st, 2009 at 11:25 am, b-cat said:

    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am, RobM1981 said:
    b-cat,

    Did you ever stand up and say “baloney?”

    Yes, more than once. Sorry it took awhile to get back, guitar practice.

    Wow! What happened after that? Did you walk out or did an argument ensue?

29. #29
    On September 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pm, b-cat said:

    Wow! What happened after that? Did you walk out or did an argument ensue?

    Walk out. Not worth my time to attend. Not looking for an argument.

30. #30
    On September 1st, 2009 at 1:00 pm, RobM1981 said:

    It’s a shame that you didn’t stay long enough to at least exchange ideas. Let the congregation have a voice (if just through applause).

31. #31
    On September 1st, 2009 at 4:23 pm, happyscrapper said:

    The churches are tax-exempt. If they speak about politics and take sides, they need to be reported. They should lose their tax-exempt status. If my pastor started spewing liberal garbage from the pulpit, I would tell him, privately, that if I hear it again, I will report him to the IRS. Fortunately, I haven’t heard anything like that. However, now that my synod has approved gays in committed relationships being pastors, I will probably be leaving that church anyway. Sigh.

32. #32
    On September 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm, Peddler said:

    So, what else is new? Obama has been preaching from the day he started campaigning except from the Alinski book, not the Bible. He only uses the Bible when it suits his purpose and wants to get the congregation fired up.

    Can I get a “hallelujah” anyone? Maybe an “amen” or two. Praise Obama and pass the stimulus money on down. Let’s not hear any jingling in the collection plate, only the rustle of high denomination bills and checks. There you go brothers and sisters. Remember, I throw the money against the wall after every service. What sticks to the wall belongs to the church, what don’t is mine! Praise be!!!