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		<title>By: It&#8217;s An Astroturf World &#171; NWI Patriots Blog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/01/union-politicking-at-the-pulpit/comment-page-1/#comment-796578</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s An Astroturf World &#171; NWI Patriots Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin,The AFL-CIO helping spread the big government Obamacare message:  Take Part in Labor in the Pulpits this Labor Day Weekend Labor in the Pulpits /on the Bimah /in the Minbar expresses in a very clear way the bonds between [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peddler</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/01/union-politicking-at-the-pulpit/comment-page-1/#comment-796529</link>
		<dc:creator>Peddler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what else is new?  Obama has been preaching from the day he started campaigning except from the Alinski book, not the Bible.  He only uses the Bible when it suits his purpose and wants to get the congregation fired up.  

Can I get a &quot;hallelujah&quot; anyone?  Maybe an &quot;amen&quot; or two.  Praise Obama and pass the stimulus money on down.  Let&#039;s not hear any jingling in the collection plate, only the rustle of high denomination bills and checks.  There you go brothers and sisters.  Remember, I throw the money against the wall after every service.  What sticks to the wall belongs to the church, what don&#039;t is mine!  Praise be!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what else is new?  Obama has been preaching from the day he started campaigning except from the Alinski book, not the Bible.  He only uses the Bible when it suits his purpose and wants to get the congregation fired up.  </p>
<p>Can I get a &#8220;hallelujah&#8221; anyone?  Maybe an &#8220;amen&#8221; or two.  Praise Obama and pass the stimulus money on down.  Let&#8217;s not hear any jingling in the collection plate, only the rustle of high denomination bills and checks.  There you go brothers and sisters.  Remember, I throw the money against the wall after every service.  What sticks to the wall belongs to the church, what don&#8217;t is mine!  Praise be!!!</p>
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		<title>By: happyscrapper</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/01/union-politicking-at-the-pulpit/comment-page-1/#comment-796465</link>
		<dc:creator>happyscrapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The churches are tax-exempt.  If they speak about politics and take sides, they need to be reported.  They should lose their tax-exempt status.  If my pastor started spewing liberal garbage from the pulpit, I would tell him, privately, that if I hear it again, I will report him to the IRS. Fortunately, I haven&#039;t heard anything like that.  However, now that my synod has approved gays in committed relationships being pastors, I will probably be leaving that church anyway.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The churches are tax-exempt.  If they speak about politics and take sides, they need to be reported.  They should lose their tax-exempt status.  If my pastor started spewing liberal garbage from the pulpit, I would tell him, privately, that if I hear it again, I will report him to the IRS. Fortunately, I haven&#8217;t heard anything like that.  However, now that my synod has approved gays in committed relationships being pastors, I will probably be leaving that church anyway.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: RobM1981</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/01/union-politicking-at-the-pulpit/comment-page-1/#comment-796134</link>
		<dc:creator>RobM1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that you didn&#039;t stay long enough to at least exchange ideas.  Let the congregation have a voice (if just through applause).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that you didn&#8217;t stay long enough to at least exchange ideas.  Let the congregation have a voice (if just through applause).</p>
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		<title>By: b-cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>b-cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow! What happened after that? Did you walk out or did an argument ensue?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Walk out. Not worth my time to attend. Not looking for an argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wow! What happened after that? Did you walk out or did an argument ensue?</p></blockquote>
<p>Walk out. Not worth my time to attend. Not looking for an argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Jet Jaguar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jet Jaguar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On September 1st, 2009 at 11:25 am, b-cat said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am, RobM1981 said:
    b-cat,

    Did you ever stand up and say “baloney?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, more than once. Sorry it took awhile to get back, guitar practice.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow! What happened after that? Did you walk out or did an argument ensue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On September 1st, 2009 at 11:25 am, b-cat said:</p>
<blockquote><p>    On September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am, RobM1981 said:<br />
    b-cat,</p>
<p>    Did you ever stand up and say “baloney?”</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, more than once. Sorry it took awhile to get back, guitar practice.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow! What happened after that? Did you walk out or did an argument ensue?</p>
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		<title>By: vickisoup</title>
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		<dc:creator>vickisoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...a new vision for justice in our communities.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is code-speak for reparations, and it&#039;s not a very secret code.
:shock:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;a new vision for justice in our communities.
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<p>This is code-speak for reparations, and it&#8217;s not a very secret code.<br />
 <img src='http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: no2pcbs1</title>
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		<dc:creator>no2pcbs1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unions much like the administration no longer serve any useful purpose. they have become parasites depending on democrats to steal money from taxpayers to support their addiction to other&#039;s money. unions are money junkies, stop the money theft and unions die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unions much like the administration no longer serve any useful purpose. they have become parasites depending on democrats to steal money from taxpayers to support their addiction to other&#8217;s money. unions are money junkies, stop the money theft and unions die.</p>
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		<title>By: tre</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/01/union-politicking-at-the-pulpit/comment-page-1/#comment-796032</link>
		<dc:creator>tre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On September 1st, 2009 at 10:14 am, b-cat said: 
I have been to many local churches in this very left wing town. Most of them preach liberalism not scripture.

One verse is read, followed by preaching for the better part of an hour about something completely different
&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


Quote those verses to those &quot;False Prophet&quot;, b-cat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On September 1st, 2009 at 10:14 am, b-cat said:<br />
I have been to many local churches in this very left wing town. Most of them preach liberalism not scripture.</p>
<p>One verse is read, followed by preaching for the better part of an hour about something completely different
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<p>Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?</p>
<p>Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!</p>
<p>Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.</p>
<p>Quote those verses to those &#8220;False Prophet&#8221;, b-cat.</p>
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		<title>By: txvet2</title>
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		<dc:creator>txvet2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, a coach and a principal are facing criminal charges in Florida for conducting a prayer prior to a meeting at their school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, a coach and a principal are facing criminal charges in Florida for conducting a prayer prior to a meeting at their school.</p>
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		<title>By: Are unions taking over the country? &#171; Nebraska Redneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are unions taking over the country? &#171; Nebraska Redneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] working the religious angle [via Michelle Malkin]: Each Labor Day weekend, Interfaith Worker Justice (IWJ) and the AFL-CIO sponsor the Labor in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ADF Alliance Alert &#187; Union politicking at the pulpit</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/01/union-politicking-at-the-pulpit/comment-page-1/#comment-795954</link>
		<dc:creator>ADF Alliance Alert &#187; Union politicking at the pulpit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin: &#8220;Check out the AFL-CIO’s latest initiative to preach Obamacare at houses of faith across the count . . . &#8220; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: b-cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/01/union-politicking-at-the-pulpit/comment-page-1/#comment-795946</link>
		<dc:creator>b-cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am, RobM1981 said: 
b-cat,

Did you ever stand up and say “baloney?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, more than once. Sorry it took awhile to get back, guitar practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On September 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am, RobM1981 said:<br />
b-cat,</p>
<p>Did you ever stand up and say “baloney?”</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, more than once. Sorry it took awhile to get back, guitar practice.</p>
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		<title>By: 7thson</title>
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		<dc:creator>7thson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fools who believe that they can live any way they want while their pastors preach from the Oprah book of the month and still be &quot;Christians&quot; are the same fools who believe the union dogma.  Just give money and the union takes care of this life; the liberal &quot;church&quot; takes care of the next life.  They will be sadly mistaken believing in either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fools who believe that they can live any way they want while their pastors preach from the Oprah book of the month and still be &#8220;Christians&#8221; are the same fools who believe the union dogma.  Just give money and the union takes care of this life; the liberal &#8220;church&#8221; takes care of the next life.  They will be sadly mistaken believing in either.</p>
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		<title>By: beenthere</title>
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		<dc:creator>beenthere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely look for the union label on the rock.  Then turn the rock over.  You might just find a Democrat functionary underneath.  Now, for those who are cool with that, fine.  Head on over this Sunday and knock yourself out.  

[Personally, I would prefer to avoid the Purple Monster or at the very least, think twice about it, but that&#039;s just me.]

As an example, here is how the local Univeralist Unitarian church describes its upcoming (9/6) Sunday Sermon:
&lt;blockquote&gt;A group of citizens from Snohomish County has worked together for more than a year to draft a human rights ordinance for Snohomish County. This ordinance provides tools for individuals to use when they &lt;em&gt;feel they have been the victims of any sort of discrimination&lt;/em&gt;. It seeks to bring parties together through &lt;em&gt;dispute resolution methods&lt;/em&gt; rather than expensive and divisive litigation. &lt;/blockquote&gt;  [Emphasis mine.]

Now here is the presenter (from wikipedia.org):
&lt;blockquote&gt;Luis Moscoso is the Director of Government Relations for the Washington Public Employees Association/UFCW Local 365 in Olympia, Washington. He oversees and coordinates the WPEA&#039;s Legislative-Political program and issues advocacy agendas. He is responsible for evaluating and facilitating the union&#039;s strategic, operations and education programs.  &lt;em&gt;Mr. Moscoso is serving his second term as Secretary of the Washington State Democratic Party.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Have a question what his &quot;dispute resolution methods&quot; are?  Come to the party and ask away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely look for the union label on the rock.  Then turn the rock over.  You might just find a Democrat functionary underneath.  Now, for those who are cool with that, fine.  Head on over this Sunday and knock yourself out.  </p>
<p>[Personally, I would prefer to avoid the Purple Monster or at the very least, think twice about it, but that's just me.]</p>
<p>As an example, here is how the local Univeralist Unitarian church describes its upcoming (9/6) Sunday Sermon:</p>
<blockquote><p>A group of citizens from Snohomish County has worked together for more than a year to draft a human rights ordinance for Snohomish County. This ordinance provides tools for individuals to use when they <em>feel they have been the victims of any sort of discrimination</em>. It seeks to bring parties together through <em>dispute resolution methods</em> rather than expensive and divisive litigation. </p></blockquote>
<p>  [Emphasis mine.]</p>
<p>Now here is the presenter (from wikipedia.org):</p>
<blockquote><p>Luis Moscoso is the Director of Government Relations for the Washington Public Employees Association/UFCW Local 365 in Olympia, Washington. He oversees and coordinates the WPEA&#8217;s Legislative-Political program and issues advocacy agendas. He is responsible for evaluating and facilitating the union&#8217;s strategic, operations and education programs.  <em>Mr. Moscoso is serving his second term as Secretary of the Washington State Democratic Party.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Have a question what his &#8220;dispute resolution methods&#8221; are?  Come to the party and ask away.</p>
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