The era of post-racialism is dead
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So much for freedom of speech in the house.
RSS: Are you saying the Wright brothers were Southerners?
What fantasy world has the Wright family being from a Southern state? Wilbur Wright was born near Millville, Indiana in 1867; Orville in Dayton, Ohio in 1871. They lived in Ohio most of their adult lives. No way could they be called Southerners!
Although they did first achieve powered flight in the south (Kitty Hawk, NC) and they set up the military’s first flying school in the south (Montgomery, AL), it is foolish to consider them Southerners.
They just censured Wilson.
I just donated money to him.
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Wow – that’s a bit of a stretch. Yelling “you lie” at a guy with a Pinocchio nose that’s wildly smacking people all the way in California has somehow morphed into an imagined army of KKK cavalry galloping around the countryside.
If these black caucus democrats can’t deal with the reality the rest of the country lives in, why should we let them anywhere near our governmental chambers, much less our health care? Lock them up in the loony bin!
Whoever is the next POTUS needs to give him a Medal of Freedom!
The current one has neither the class nor the guts — he lets San Fran Nan do his walkin’ and talkin’ for him!
Yep, because the best way to discourage partisan division is to have a partisan split vote chastising behavior on only one side of the aisle.
…because they believe the American public can’t see right through that little waste of time and money.
I’ll tell you what Obama has succeeded in doing, and that’s to take all the sting out of the term racist. If it has no meaning other than that applied by these airheads, who can object to being called racist? If words have meaning, they must be applied correctly, and trying to shroud (cloak, sheet) all criticism of Obama’s statist policies as racism effectively makes that charge meaningless.
rss, you obviously know very little about the civil war. probably due to your public school education. look at the facts of the civil wars start. new england christian do gooders flocked to kansas to assure it was a “free” state. reminds me of todays libs crossing the country voting in contended states. they then proceeded to go into missouri and steal slaves and move them north. the missouri folks got mad and burned lawrence to the ground, because lawrence was the center of the new england carpetbaggers enclave. but the war was about economics, not slaves. it was about new england cotton mills and tobacco factories needing the bounty of the south. was new england ever an agricultural area? the south wanted to sell it’s products to england, hence the blockade of charleston and new orleans. those fine nonracist new yorkers had a huge riot in new york because they wouldn’t go fight for those southern negroes. in the south they call the civil war the war of northern aggression. democrats from new england have a very ugly history during that time and the decades after, which is why we have the outlaws of the 1870 and 80’s cole younger, jesse james etc, were all southern soldiers whose property and livelihoods were stolen during the war.
I think just like with the boy who cried wolf; every time there is another hysterical irrational claim of racism, fewer people take it seriously, and those accused and their supporters are becoming more vocal in calling out the race baiters. It’s about time.
Did you guys see the latest ACORN video?
Cheap, enjoyed your history lesson. But, you’re wasting your time trying to tell RSS anything. He’s only here to stir it up and get his kicks. He’s like a broken record “but what about Vitter?” and “it’s Bushhhhhhh’s fault”.
Hope you’re enjoying the gorgeous Missouri weather today. My favorite time of year.
All right. My paternal ancestors lived in South Carolina, did not own slaves, and fought for the Confederacy. They did not fight to preserve slavery but to preserve the rights of states to control their own internal processes, and because they were South Carolinians and, to their minds, the state, their friends, and their family were endangered by the Federal Government.
Misguided? Maybe, considering the current intrusion of the Federal Government into state and local jurisdictions. Dishonorable? Hardly.
ECS
Holy……wow. That woman is crazy. This is the best one yet!
I’m not going to address the person who posted the comment about Joe Wilson’s defense of the Confederacy. I am going to make a comment that, as far as my own knowledge of history is concerned, is a fair statement.
For starters, we were lied to in school when we were taught that the American Civil War was fought over slavery. Yes, that was a part of the debate – a considerable part of it.
But the primary reason the southern states seceded from the Union was the issue of states rights.
I could go on at length about the ways in which our beloved Abraham Lincoln trod on the Constitution – and please understand, if he had not, the United States might not exist. Nor, might I add, would the Confederacy. European powers were watching eagerly for the least sign of weakness in the still young country that is our home. The European empires were still looking to acquire more and more territory, and the riches of the North American continent were more than enough enticement for them to want to see the dissolution of the Union.
Therefore I am of the opinion that he was right to act as he did, for the preservation of the country. As he said, quoting/paraphrasing Scripture, a house divided against itself cannot stand.
As a New Englander, from a long line that traces back to before the founding of this country, I can understand how it is that many persons of Southern heritage still view the conflict between the states as a battle for the Constitutionally guaranteed rights of the states vs the federal government. So I’m not going to assume that Joe Wilson wishes for a return to slavery just because he defends the Confederate flag.
Nor should anyone else.
This is all so disappointing. I was looking forward to the day when crackers like me could sit down at the table of Peace with the oppressed likes of Van Jones, Sharpton and Jackson and communicate our passions for a re-made America that Obama is striving so hard to achieve for our collective good. Who would have thought Joe Wilson could have shattered the Dream?
You said it far more succinctly than I.
pwned!
*Definition here for the uninitiated.
Wayfaring, from what I have read, there seems to have been as much hatred from northern liberals toward Lincoln then as modern liberals have for Bush today. After locking up Maryland’s legislators and suspending habeus corpus, it is a wonder that the north was able to work together long enough to preserve the union.
I haven’t had a chance to read the posts yet, but I just have to comment and hope I don’t repeat someone. This black President was groomed by Soros to be The One who would lead this country into socialism/marxism. They needed a black man who was great with oratory, etc. The reason they needed a black was so that they could use the race card whenever anyone opposed him. It is so clear to me now!!! What they didn’t count on was the majority of Americans catching on and refusing to allow political correctness to intimidate us!! Unfortunately, the race/ideology war is officially on and there doesn’t seem to be any way to stop it. God help us because they have the black panthers and the unions, and those folks play rough.
Thank you so much for this. I have been wondering for some time now what the heck that meant but I didn’t want to ask…lol
I believe in giving credit where it’s due; this one you got right.
There has been some discussion about rules and protocol, but given the outbursts by other politicians in the past (some, as you say, long past), Wilson’s two syllable interruption of BO’s speech doesn’t deserve the level of criticism that it’s received.
Yes, I’ve read much along the same lines. Newspaper editors were scathing in their criticisms of Lincoln (he was, in their opinion, stupid, ignorant, etc., etc.). The contemporary commentary on his now immortal Gettysburg address was mainly on how disappointing it was (and short – for which countless schoolchildren, tasked with memorizing it, have been grateful)
RSS was right to note that the level of discourse in the modern day Congress is more civil than it often was back in, oh, say Andrew Jackson’s day. IIRC there was a beating with a cane/walking stick that occurred within the hallowed hall of Congress.
Yes, the economics definitely played a part too – and we ought not forget that many Northerners were bigoted in their attitudes and behavior toward blacks (the animosity between the Irish and the blacks is infamous in Boston).
It is a fact that not all Northerners were abolitionists, and not all Southerners were slave holders (nor supporters of slavery). Generalizations are not conducive to honest examinations of history and social anthropology.
Donated to Representative Joe Wilson. With much gusto.
Anyone who really believed that electing the reincarnation of Malcolm X masquerading as a younger, hipper Bill Cosby would somehow cause black subculture in this country to grow up overnight was delusional. At best.
As long as their “leadership caste” remains comprised of people like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the Congressional Black Caucus, too many blacks will never have any incentive to take responsibility for themselves, and every incentive to keep Whitey on the hook.
Hope-a-Dope rode the racial spoils gravy-train all the way to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, but that’s the end of the line. And everyone stupid enough to have thought that this would make any difference in race relations now has a choice:
- Admit that they got snookered into believing a fairy tale; or
- Go on blaming Whitey for everything that doesn’t measure up in Hope-a-Dope’s Utopia.
Pretty easy to figure out the option that they’ll choose…
Seven Republicans voted “yes” on the censure vote. Can’t find anything on who they are yet.
Well, it’s dead when you have a racist in the white house, who spouts off vulgarities and associates with scum with every turn…
What a sad role model he offers to black youth… Just as Bill Clinton taught the country that morals are old-fashioned. Obama’s godless behavior is corrupting the country at many levels.
It’s time to close out this regime and bring real hope to our nation.
Politico has the list:
Even though the vote was largely partisan, there were a few departures from party loyalty. Seven Republicans voted to rebuke Wilson: Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana, Jo Ann Emerson of Missouri, Jeff Flake of Arizona, Walter Jones of North Carolina, Tom Petri of Wisconsin, Dana Rohrabacher of California and fellow South Carolinian Bob Inglis.
But 12 Democrats voted no on the resolution: Michael Arcuri of New York, Bill Delahunt of Massachusetts, Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona, Maurice Hinchey of New York, Paul Hodes of New Hampshire, Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, Dan Maffei of New York, Eric Massa of New York, James McDermott of Washington, Gwen Moore of Wisconsin, Gene Taylor of Mississippi and Harry Teague of New Mexico.
Article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27194.html
As a Central New Yorker, I’m pleasantly surprised at Maffei’s “no” vote, as well as Arcuri.
Big “Et tu, Brute” to Joseph Cao…
Flake (AZ)!!!!!, Rohrbacher (CA), Cao (LA), Emerson (MO), Jones (NC), Inglis (SC), Petri (WI) are the Republicans who voted “yes”. I don’t EVER want to hear the name Jeff Flake as a conservative again. He makes John McCain seem principled.
You have yet to prove that he is a racist and in any way connect that to what he said. The fact that he argued in favor of the confederate flag and supported Thurmond is tenuous at best. Following that course of logic, Thurmond’s black mistress was also a racist.
To expound on Spacey’s comment, I will ask you a simple question.
Do you denounce Robert Byrd, an admitted member of the KKK?
Baucus also announced that the Dems will proceed without GOP support on the Obamacare bill. Gov. Duval of MA has also announced that he will appoint an interim replacement for EMK’s vacant seat giving the Dems a theoretically filibuster-proof majority.
Go ahead Dems. Do it! (Won’t happen).
We’ll finally get to see whether McCain’s “Gang of 14″ works both ways.
A perfectly ridiculous statement this congressman made.
Btw, sir, the only KKK running around in your area is in the United States Senate and he sits on the Democrat side.
(do dems not realize how silly they look calling everyone else racist while they have a real one sitting in their own political party?)
Here’s a real curiosity: CBS announced that Mark Levin’s book just broke a million in sales. The headline includes “Never reviewed by NYT or WaPo…”. What is everyone else waiting for?
Is Barry O also a racist for calling Kayne West a Jacka$$? Perhaps congress will pass a resolution of disapproval.
Things is gettin’ loopier by the minute.
Flake (AZ), Rohrbacher (CA), both Grand Old Pals…out with them next year. Someone help me here will you, why the hell would a republican vote to censure Joe Wilson for calling it as it is? May not have been the most appropo place and time, but the dems themselves have done the same or worst in the same type of Congressoinal meeting without any action. Oh yeah, that’s right RINOs’ have no balls. I’m sure that’s no surprise to anyone here with the exception of the resident trolls.
We need to clearly clean house by removing any and all republican’s that even smell like a middle of the roader, aisle reacher or what ever you want to call them.
Feloe posters, you want to really piss off the trolls, DO NOT REPLY TO THEIR STUPID COMMENTS.
That was suppose to be…”Fellow posters…” hit the wrong key, obviously.
Back to reality, these trolls could care less what you say or how, they only want to get your goat nothing more. Not sure why you even reply in the 1st place you all have to know what I said above. Let’s try it till the end of the month and see what happens, how ’bout it.
I’m not real fond of chap, but he is not of the same clothe as lgm, rss and the others. He will discuss and argue with valid statements and correct facts on occasion, he will not type out something irrational just to get someones ire up. Being a lawyer he’s probably just looking for and argument, not just make slanderous outrageous comments.
Racist.
see how ya are, chap.
All one has to do is watch television ads and you clearly see the divide of races in this country. Ryan Howard’s new commercial shows him violently shutting up a white bad singer.
There was a commercial of a white guy on a treadmill next to a black guy. The white guy was telling him about a cell phone that he stole, the black guy then causes him to violently hit the floor, since the phone was his.
These advertisements send a clear message, if you are black then violence is a perfectly legitimate means if you are being bothered or if you are wronged. Don’t worry about the law, just handle it yourself, its okay.
if we are racist because we despise his policies, then I guess a LOT of us are racist? Frankly, he is half black, and half WHITE. His race is exactly zero percent of why I dislike him so much. But, I wonder how we recover from the charge of racism, and how exactly “you lie” is even remotely racist? Disappointed in my fellow Americans right now.
And even worse, it was implied, if not taught in school that America was the only country to ever engage in slavery.
Can we assume that any black who voted to reprimand Wilson is a racist?
WDS
If we don’t censure Joe Wilson, Robert Byrd will ride again!
After the Gates fiasco, I’m afraid that Obama and all of his supporters have forfeited the high ground when it comes to “post-racialism.” It would be nice to see the Kanye West story framed, as it should be, as racist too – but I’m not holding my breath.
Obama is a racist. A bald-faced racist.
If you support him; so are you.
Everyones a racist. Whites don’t like Obamas black half. Blacks don’t like Obamas white half.
Conclusion: Everyone hates Obama. How the hell did this guy get elected?
Personally, I don’t see the world in black and white. I see a lot of gray.
I hate gray. I’m a gray racist.
Ya know, I don’t think I’m going to get an answer.
JDeaux–I didn’t get an answer either, even when I asked it a different way:
spacey,
I just wanted it to be explicit so there was no confusion.
Kudos to you for keying in on the Byrd comparison right from the get-go.