The House of Hypocrisy rebukes Joe Wilson
So, the House officially “rebuked” GOP Rep. Joe Wilson for calling out President Obama’s health care lie and another Kabuki moment of manufactured outrage is over:
On a largely party-line vote, the House voted 240 to 179 to ratify a “resolution of disapproval” against Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) for interrupting Obama’s speech last week before a joint session of Congress. Just 12 Democrats opposed the resolution against Wilson, while seven Republicans supported the disapproval motion. Five Democrats voted “present,” rather than cast a yes or no vote.
During the hour-long debate, Wilson refused to apologize, saying his private phone call to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel was sufficient because Obama himself said the matter was closed the day after his speech.
“It is clear to the American people that there are far more important issues than what we are dealing with now. . . . [Obama] graciously accepted my apology, and this issue is over,” Wilson said in brief remarks.
I like GOP Rep. John Carter’s characterization last night of the Democrats’ chamber — he called it the House of Hypocrisy.
Nary a peep about corruptocrat Charlie Rangel or CIA-smearing Nancy Pelosi or unhinged Pete Stark Raving Mad, etc., etc. etc.
But now we have revised rules of decorum dictating which insults are acceptable and which are forbidden.
The House Democrats refuse to police unethical behavior, but they are all for policing Republicans’ sharp tongues.
The Etiquette Czar approves.
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The seven Republicans who voted for rebuke:
Cao
Emerson
Flake
Jones (NC)
Petri
Rohrabacher
Inglis
The twelve Democrats who opposed the rebuke:
Arcuri
Delahunt
Giffords
Hinchey
Hodes
Kucinich
Maffei
Massa
McDermott
Moore
Taylor
Teague
The Democrats voting present:
Engel
Foster
Frank (MA)
Shea-Porter
The members not voting:
Democrats…
Ackerman
Lynch
Sestak
Tanner
Republicans…
Barrett (SC)
Conaway
Hoekstra
McHugh
Sestak
Tanner
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VERY anxious to see who the Republicans supporting were…. I am afraid it is going to be the same players.
I added this over in the comments over in the related story, but I might as well include it here. Politico has the names of the seven traitors…
Even though the vote was largely partisan, there were a few departures from party loyalty. Seven Republicans voted to rebuke Wilson: Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana, Jo Ann Emerson of Missouri, Jeff Flake of Arizona, Walter Jones of North Carolina, Tom Petri of Wisconsin, Dana Rohrabacher of California and fellow South Carolinian Bob Inglis.
…as well as the twelve Democrat “no” votes.
But 12 Democrats voted no on the resolution: Michael Arcuri of New York, Bill Delahunt of Massachusetts, Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona, Maurice Hinchey of New York, Paul Hodes of New Hampshire, Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, Dan Maffei of New York, Eric Massa of New York, James McDermott of Washington, Gwen Moore of Wisconsin, Gene Taylor of Mississippi and Harry Teague of New Mexico.
At last! civility and decorum will be restored to that hallowed hall by the swift and just punishment of that uncouth villain Joe Wilson. May the great work of the House to establish health care for all and other noble causes carry forth unimpeded by such scandalous affairs.
The politburo at work.
I am personally pleased the distinguished body spent the entire afternoon on this important measure, as while so engaged they were not spending more of our money.
I understand tomorrow they may debate whether the law of gravity is constitutional.
Knock yourselves out, O wacky ones.
In defense of the Rs who voted to rebuke, I suspect that they did so in order to have the moral authority to bring up future rebukes to Democrats who may do same. Because Flake, as far as I know, is one of the Reaganite good guys.
By the way, this may be a fitting occasion to point out to the people of South Carolina’s 4th District that State Senator David Thomas is running against Inglis.
http://www.thomas2010.com/
Just sayin’…
Very interested to see that Dan Maffei voted No. He’s been quite a party line liberal for NY-25. No from Arcuri as well. Is there a running fear that a Giuliani vs. Paterson race is going to show strength down the ticket for Republicans in Upstate NY?
Rep. Kanye Wilson is a jacka**.
I never EVER want to hear the name Jeff Flake mentioned as a serious candidate for anything again. He is a notorious back stabber on conservative issues and now he is not even a good Republican. This guy has fewer principles than another despicable Arizonan, John McCain.
These idiots don’t have time to read Obama’s devastating healthcare aberration but they’ll gladly waste a day on this garbage. Forget it Joe, this vote was cast by fools and means nothing.
BTW, if you must contribute money because of Joe Wilson, give it directly to his campaign. I’ve gotten a couple of Senate Conservative Committee solicitations on this from Jim DeMint.
I have no intention of donating ANYTHING to any GOP party anything, especially in the Senate. The Senate is hopeless. The power and traction for conservatives in in the House and can be maximized only by targeting contributions to very specific conservative members.
while these nimrods are spending their time rebuking wilson, they aren’t passing some dangerous freedom quenching legislation, so rebuke your little butt off nancy.
I consider the yes-voting Repubs’ actions inexcusable.
My representative (Rohrabacher) voted “yea” and I have sent him an email rebuking him. I hope it was only one of thousands, and I hope he will offer some sort of explanation.
With so many in the House guilty of repeated shameless actions — Pelosi, Bahney Fwank, Rangel and Conyers leading the way — what Wilson did was, at worst, the equivalent of uttering a muffled belch.
Not to worry Joe, we American’s have your back. Thank you for saying what many know about bho, team, and the dc bunch.
L
Barney Frank voted “no”.
And just now from RCP, Jimmuh is citing “a racist tone against Obama”.
That is a last gasp coward’s argument. We are winning in a rout. Let’s not succumb to feeling pity for these worms. Let’s beat them into the ground and then burn the ground itself to destroy the DNA.
Wear it as a badge of honor Rep. Wilson. Thank you Joe.
…or…”They Lie!”
Rep Wilson’s lack of decorum and violation of the House rules, while in the House, earned him the rebuke.
There is no hypocrisy.
Saying, or doing, something at a town hall meeting, or in a political ad, that insults, or is offensive to, another politician is one thing. Doing it in the House, or Senate, is entirely different.
There are rules and they must be followed.
The continuing inability of the GOP House to keep it’s RINOs in line and to join in speaking up and supporting getting the message out about Obummers lies is just another reason not to send any money to the RNC or it’s Congressional fund raisers.
Time to rebuke these arrogant out-of-touch with the public cockroaches. What a waste of time.
Wielding power is very easy when you have it…getting people to follow you is much, much more difficult.
I’m willing give Delahunt credit for not going along with this political sham, but my other half knows him from way back and says he isn’t to be trusted.
But I don’t put my trust in politicians anyway.
One of my favorite lines from a 1950′s era play about Elizabeth I (and later a novel by the same husband and wife team that wrote the play) was uttered by the young Elizabeth:
Put not your trust in princes.
That’s a reference to Psalm 146, and it’s as applicable now as it was back in ancient times.
Apparently, you don’t remember the Dems booing Bush during his 2005 State of the Union address.
You need to look up the definition of hypocrisy.
+1.
ECS
Wilson is whistling all the way to the bank.
Heh! Being rebuked by these clowns is not exactly something I would take seriously. They are all scum. Actually, I take that back. Scum has a purpose.
He could really make hay out of this and sell autographed copies of the resolution for either his campaign or some charity he supports.
Call it what you will but as a result of his outburst they felt compelled to add language ensuring the lie becomes the truth. Thank you Joe Wilson.
For any Republicans trying to throw him under the bus, you just might find yourself taking his place. We conservatives prefer our representatives be non-castrated.
Perhaps the best response from the people is a soar in donations to Representative Joe Wilson’s campaign.
(I made a donation myself today too – so my money is where my mouth is
)
I cannot believe Bob Inglis voted for the rebuke. Actually I should not be surprised, since he voted for the Iraq surrender resolution.
It is sad though. He used to be a conservative who actually stuck to his term limits pledge back in the day, but I guess he caught the wanttobeliked fever from Lindsay Graham.
Sestak didnt vote am sure pat toomey will say he would have voted to hang Joe Wilson if he was there, being in his I gotta be an ass mode to get elected that he is.
SPIT
Nope, I do remember. There are often boistrous outbursts, negative and positive. If the House wanted to rebuke those members, at that time, then they should have. And, being consistent, I would agree.
When you break the rules, you must suffer the consequences of your actions. Do you agree?
R + “liar” = outrage
D + crime = pass
Why are we not all D’s?
I wonder what kind of response Wilson would have gotten if he had shouted out something more appropriate like,
“BULLSH*T!!!”
Apparently, there are 240 half baked nitwits in the House that don’t understand what the first amendment says.
This is priceless. I can’t wait until a Dem calls a GOP president a liar. Then we’ll see hypocrisy.
*When P-BO rebukes(and means it) Rev. Wright, Bill Ayres, Calypso Louie, Acorn, CAIR, Iran, North Korea, his entire Communist Clown Cluster, and especially Jimma Carter, then we’ll have a rebuke worth talking about; Until then, I’ll support worthy candidates across the country that target any of the numerous rat bastards for removal from office in 2010, regardless of party.
Too late. It already happened.
Let’s hope next time is sooner rather than later.
If you truly believe that, why did you say they weren’t hypocritical? Sorry, but you sound like you are CYA.
This resolution is just pure politics, and has absolutely nothing to do with rules. If it were about rules, it would be applied equally to Dems and Republicans, so don’t go there.
This is about punishing Wilson for forcing the issue of Obama’s lie about illegal aliens. It brought attention to it and they can only deal with the truth by using the politics of distraction which is in play right here before our very eyes.
If this were truly about the rules, I would agree, but as we all know, that’s not the real issue.
I was stunned to see where my representative, Jo Ann Emerson, voted for the rebuke. Well, this may be her last term anyway; I have talked to many in our district who are ready to find her replacement.
Shame on you, Jo Ann. You missed out on our contribution to your compaign; it went to Joe Wilson!
Good for them. That just prompted me to donate a hundred bucks to Joe’s campaign war chest.
Yawn……
I presume any black Congressmen who voted for this is a racist.
House Resloution = 1 Censored Joe Wilson
travlinman’s donation to Wilson = $100.00
Wilson Re-elected = Priceless
https://secure.piryx.com/donate/WzJc4e8g/joewilson/video
BTW: Over $1.64 million dollars donated thus far. I hope the Dummocrats censor every conservative in the House.
Nope. It is called reading comprehension.
MM compared conduct done in the House to conduct not done in the House, and one being taken to task and the other not being taken to task. I said this is not hypocrisy, and why it wasn’t, in my original post # 807178. Re-read it.
I did not go there, you went there and I addressed your statement about Pres Bush being booed. I said, at the risk of repeating myself, that I would agree to rebuke each instance.
I asked if you agree, but you did not answer a simple straight forward question. Go figure, you liberals never fail to surprise me.
We simply disagree about following rules and what is politics. I believe there are consequences for not following rules. As a liberal, you don’t.
Nope. You violate the rules, you suffer the consequences. But, you being a liberal do not know about taking responsibility for your actions.
As for the illegal alien stuff, read the bill. However, I will grant the current language is reactive rather than proactive.
I believe it is about the rules, and good behaviour. So, we disagree, such is life.
If this were true more then 1/2 the dems serving in Congress now would not be serving in congress, jail maybe, not Congress.
Does Wilson have a mailing addy to send money to as I don’t trust paypal since the last time I donated on line my card got hacked?
Why are Sestak and Tanner listed under both parties?
I agree. Targeting specific candidates is better, otherwise my money might be divvied up for people like McCain or Grahamnesty
I read an article the other day suggesting the Senate GOP was behind the ‘Crats in fund raising.
Uh, gee, maybe the morons will figure it out before the next election.
Wow, another powerful day of whining and rebuking in Congress. I am so very proud. What momumental and lofty ideals will they debate tomorrow? Perhaps the fragrance of urinal cakes in the congressional bathrooms? Or maybe wiring individual House Members seats to a control board so that Pelosi can administer varying degrees of shocks to future offenders of House Protocol. How shall I sleep tonight with such excitement awaiting me.
Soooooo, when will you be calling on Ninny Peloosi to hurry along Rangels ethics investigation?
Can you post your letter to the Maryland AG demanding she prosecute the ACORNuts caught on video breaking the law?
When you do, post your letter to Holder demanding he reopen the case of the thugs intimidating voters in Philly, and what RICO investigation he is planning for ACORN.
Inglis didn’t “honor” his pledge. Jim DeMint did it for him, defeating him in the primary. When DeMint ran for Strom Thurmond’s seat, Inglis ran again, and we haven’t been able to remove that blight on our area since. I will actively work for his efeat in the primary this go ’round.
As a politically active voter, with no party affiliation, this sort of pimp and circumstance politics is precisely why we need to clean house completely in Washington.
At a time when we need substantive, meaningful work deregulating and displacing government out of the way of itself and the economy, Washington dithers on more BS, while avoiding the real issues that need addressing.
Arrogant ass-hats.
Time to empty the trash.
Let’s just show our rebuke for these gutless wonders by voting them out of office.
I agree with you 100%.
Additionally, if I was a member of the House I probably would have voted for rebuke. It’s a good rule that shouldn’t be broken.
But, I’m very, very, very happy that Wilson did what he did!
A bit of a tangent, but OK.
I did not write, or call, anyone to have Rep Wilson taken to task for his lack of decorum. I gave my opinion on a BLOG.
As for the items you mentioned, absolutely take them to task for their wrong doing. See, I did it again. Gave my opinion on a BLOG.
Now. Do you agree, or disgree, that people should be held accountable for their actions when they have done wrong?
Next time Obama speaks in the House or Senate I hope that someone passes a very loud and extended gas. Hey, these things happen.
I hope there is a REAL Republican among the current crop of RINO, who keeps tabs on blatant hypocrisy from the Democrats.
When the tables are turned, these loons must be given a dose or two of their own medicine.
Zyzzyg:
If rules actually applied in this instance, we’d see more Congress critters doing jail time, wouldn’t we?
In a world of absolutes, I’m seeing that Congressman Wilson is being used to illustrate a larger point. Decorum means nothing when you sit on your hands while a sitting president tells LIES (or keeps switching the rules).
I’d like to live in your world of absolutes where people were punished when they broke a rule. When I was a teacher, I wanted the school district to punish the students who made my teaching life miserable and all they got was a 1 or 2 day suspension. Then they go back to not learning in my classes. It would be nice if rules were followed, but when so many people (of both parties) no longer adhere to rules to begin with, then what is the point?
Please, stop lecturing us about rules and the consequences of breaking them. Get over yourself.
I cannot wait for next year’s mid-terms!!!
The only thing the U.S. House of Representatives and their Democrat leaders did was bring shame to that institution by their political posturing in this shameful episode of making Joe Wilson pay for his so-called affront.
Jefferson’s rules may not condone calling the President a liar from the floor of the House, but do those same rules state the President can walk in and call the citizenry who are against his policies liars?
They waste time displaying their false indignation while more grievous offenses by Charlie Rangel and others have the Dems scratching their heads – not as to whether or not to investigate Rangel, but how to get around it.
They all acted and sounded like a bunch of second graders (no offense, children) who have been in office too long. If it delays a health bill the people don’t want, that’s a good thing.
Heaven forbid the GOP gets back into power. There will be much pay back time. So go ahead DEMwits, keep digging your hole deeper. All that you did to Bush if ever repeated with a new GOP President will unleash a tidalwave of discipline onto your shoulders.
I can’t wait till 2010. all incumbants are getting fired from Congress. UNless ACORN stacks the deck again in the election.
Oh boy, do you take liberties with statements. I don’t know where you get that I’m a liberal because that doesn’t reflect at all in my post. As a matter of fact, I’m conservative to the core, but I also believe that if you are going to enforce a rule, enforce it equally or shut up.
I did, most certainly, answer your question, but you didn’t want to accept the answer. I said that if it were about rules, I would agree, but this rebuke is not about rules. It’s a waste of the taxpayers’ time and is all about politics.
I don’t disagree that people should suffer the consequences of their actions, but this resolution is not about the rules, no matter how much you want to say it is. It’s pure politics and is a waste of time.
Again, you need to look up the definition of hypocrisy.
Regardless of what you say you mean by hyprocrisy, that’s what it means. The dems are engaged in it with this resolution, period. This resolution is akin to expelling a student for carrying an aspirin because it’s a “drug”. It’s overkill, they know it, and it’s pure politics.
zyzzyg:
So 2 words gets you a rebuke but years of tax fraud and evasion gets you…. nothing.
Yeah this is all about rules…
What is really sad is that the 1st amendment does not apply to you if you are actually sitting in congress.
Just sent this to Walter Jones:
‘Mr. Jones,
I see that you voted for the “resolution of disapproval” against Joe Wilson. Mr. Wilson merely said what a lot of us out here are thinking: the President is a liar.
I’ll be sending Mr. Wilson a campaign contribution because of his stand. I will NOT be sending you one based on your vote.
Regards,’
zyzzyg said:
And what did Wilson do that was wrong?
Bad behaviour, a lack of decorum and breaking rules gets you a rebuke. Tax fraud and evasion will get you prison. Note the future tense in the previous sentence.
How long did it take Rep Jefferson (D) LA to get his comeuppence? He got his and Rep Rangel (D) NY will also get his.
I’ll say it again, very slowly, everyone is responsible for their action and must suffer the consequences, thereof.
And, yes when the rules are broken, you pay the price. Unfortunately some rule and law breaking takes more time to prosecute than others.
You obviously did not re-read, and more importantly did not understand, my first post in this thread.
It is about the venue.
Comparing bad behaviour on the floor of the House to bad behaviour elsewhere have two different sets of rules. It is apples and oranges. There is no comparison and therefore, there is no hypocrisy.
On September 16th, 2009 at 12:07 am, zyzzyg said:
Sure do! And that’s exactly what Wilson was doing. Or do you think it is *not* wrong for the CIC to lie to the American people?
Oh, and I have to steal a comment I saw over at Gateway Pundit. Maybe Wilson should have just thrown a shoe at PBO. (The media LOVED it when it happened to Bush!)
I’m with zyzzyg on this one. Let them censure him, rebuke him, and call him bad names. Those are the rules, and he should live by them.
Of course, like so many others here I’d mock Congress. If I were Joe Wilson I’d get a button made saying “I speak truth to power,” or something like that.
Rangel, Jefferson and others don’t have that liberty. In fact, unless the system is more corrupt than even WE claim it is, they won’t have any liberty at all.
Careful picking up the soap, Charlie.
Am I missing something?
Which specific rule did Wilson break?
If there was already a rule against what he did, why did they have to revise the decorum rules to include “you can’t call the President a liar”??
Surely by adding that line item, the implication is that it wasn’t there to begin with!
“The House Blacks spur racism against Wilson.” Seems to me that they and their comrads (Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpten and the NAACP) are the ones spawning racism, they make a profit out of it.
Now Carter is getting involved calling Wilson a “racist”. There’s a man who needs to retire to Georgia, sit on his porch, take his pills, and remember his days in the navy. Perhaps he can restart “Billy Beer” again.
Seems to me it’s okay for Dems to hiss and boo a Republican President as many times as they like, but it is racist for any show of emotion by any Republican when a Democrat President speaks (and it doesn’t seem to matter whether that Democrat President is speaking in the well of Congress or at one of his pre-staged Town Halls). Just give me a freakin’ break! This rebuke has “degrade the Republicans” written all over it!!
Say it ain’t so Joe!
Rebuke rhymes with…
And whats the difference between a “boo” statement and a “you lie” statement?
And if I can’t use the word liar in a meeting full of liars, can I use “willing suspension of disbelief” or “facilitator of dishonest politics”?
How stupid to ban a word when the same meaning can be equally presented in an infinite number of alternative ways? Who do they think they are fooling other than zyzzyg?
Well, I guess that is what they were trying to do. This smells of partisan politics but apparently some of the Republicans still have their head in the sand.
Decorum rules violate amendment #1. Surely there are a few left in Congress familiar with the Constitution? Of course, they don’t read the bills they vote on, why would they know anything about any previous laws?
Emily Post: “Fargin iceholes! This be fargin war!”
I think that this statement is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard coming from a former president. But, looking at his record of mis-accomplishments during his one term, I am not surprized. Stick to peanuts Jimmah.
Don’t you all wish the Democrats would let the race issue go? They just keep it alive and well in this country.
This article by a black man on the Tea Party Express says it all – his experience with racism came from the liberals, not the Tea Party Patriots.
Libs, stop the racism accusations! They’re getting old and worn out. Most people are at the point of saturation and don’t care anymore.
We have an interesting situation in AZ–
Jeff Flake R-D5 voted against Wilson–I sent him a scathing letter for being just another RINO.
Gabrielle Giffords D-8, my Rep, who is Pelousy clone voted NO. Go figure.
The truth is that it really didn’t mean anything one way or the other just grandstanding—I for one have had enough!!! Throw them all out:
Flip the House 2010!!!
Blow Out Congress
Get Out Of Our House
Plenty of orgs to help with the overturning of Congress–they ALL have to go 2010!!!
prendad:
Lloyd Marcus would rouse the Tea Partiers as the Tea Party Express crossed the US when his first statement was:
“I am NOT and African-American I am an American!!!”
There is no such thing as a hyphenated American and that needs to be ingrained in the “skulls with mush”.
My husband and I only refer to ourselves as Americans–no hyphenation, no, no, no. Get with the program, libs.