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1. #1
   On September 21st, 2009 at 12:46 pm, POTUS said:

   If it’s only collected from a certain percentage of Americans is it really a tax, or a fee?

   Just another subsidy for many.

2. #2
   On September 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pm, rightwingrocker said:

   Enough of this stuff.

   Barack and his gang of criminals won’t stop until every penny anyone has has been distributed to them by the government. It’s going to be up to Americans to stop them. Keep the Tea Parties rolling!

   RWR
   http://www.rightwingrocker.com

3. #3
   On September 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pm, MTNEER said:

   When IS a tax not a tax? That must depend on what your definition of IS is. Now where have I heard that before?

4. #4
   On September 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pm, rightwingrocker said:

   OBAMA: George, the fact that you looked up Merriam’s Dictionary, the definition of tax increase, indicates to me that you’re stretching a little bit right now. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have gone to the dictionary to check on the definition. I mean what…

   HAHA

   So now Merriam-Webster is part of a vast right-wing conspiracy to discredit Barack Obama?!?!?

   This is RICH!

   RWR
   http://www.rightwingrocker.com

5. #5
   On September 21st, 2009 at 12:52 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

   So, if I can’t afford coverage (and I can’t) the IRS will collect a fee from me on my tax return? For this fee I get?

   I would love just one stinking liberal to debate this issue here on this blog.

   Yep, it is just like auto insurance – to come. No auto insurance – the IRS will get you. No matter if you do not drive.

   Next up, a diet fee on your IRS form if you are over weight?

   How about an airline fee on your IRS form if you do not fly?

   Not a tax?

   Flippin liar!

   Put that on my IRS form.

6. #6
   On September 21st, 2009 at 12:56 pm, Drained Brain said:

   The more he talks off-teleprompter, the more these little gems will slip out.

   It’s amazing how many people here and abroad are picking up on Hillary’s devastating “he gave a speech once” comment.

   I give her full credit for being correct on that point.

7. #7
   On September 21st, 2009 at 1:08 pm, cicerokid said:

   “Read my lips: know new taxes.”

8. #8
   On September 21st, 2009 at 1:18 pm, inspiredhome said:

   In a general sense, all contributions imposed by the government upon individuals for the service of the state, are called taxes, by whatever name they may be known, whether by the name of tribute, tythe, tallage, impost, duty, gabel, custom, subsidy, aid, supply, excise, or other name.
   ~ Joseph Story 1833 – Commentaries on the Constitution

9. #9
   On September 21st, 2009 at 1:19 pm, iamsaved said:

   It all depends on what the meaning of is is…

10. #10
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:19 pm, beenthere said:

    It’s amazing how many people here and abroad are picking up on Hillary’s devastating “he gave a speech once” comment.

    One of Obama’s many problems is that he is either all talk and no action, or all action and no talk (no debate, no deliberation, no public discussion.) It is hard to think of a worse combination.

11. #11
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:23 pm, cheapseat said:

    anything that confiscates (takes) your money from your pocket and delivers it to gubmint coffers is a tax. fees, fines and levies are all things lawyers (spinmasters) have coined to not call a tax a tax. total b.s. this last week i heard a report in st louis that they were going to have to lay off some folks because the fees from the gambling boathouses hadn’t taken in as much as they hoped for. NEVER MIND THAT MO. CONSTITUTION MANDATES ALL GAMBLING TAXES WOULD GO EXCLUSIVELY TO OUR SCHOOLS!

12. #12
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:29 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    “The consequence for not maintaining insurance would be an excise tax….The excise tax would be assessed through the tax code and applied as an additional amount of Federal tax owed.”

    Obama grew up in Hawaii where we have an excise tax – not a sales tax – but I bet he doesn’t know that, and I bet he can’t explain what it is without getting his own dictionary…

13. #13
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:41 pm, vinny said:

    Logic aside, the word “tax” has a derogatory meaning these days. Therefore, our AOTUS (Acorn of…) is simply complying with PC speech regulations and avoiding the use of derogatory or inflammatory language. Wouldn’t it be funny if he actually believed himself?

14. #14
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:47 pm, sonofdy said:

    Clearly you being forced to give money to the government based on your income is not tax.

    Its a a a,…. hmmm… DONATION thats it yeah, a donation.

    

15. #15
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:47 pm, dan708 said:

    Incredible. How many opponents of his plan are likely to be swayed by his semantic sleight of hand? Just TELL THE TRUTH for once, BHO!

16. #16
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    Obama’s definition of “tax” is thus:

    “Government laying claim to what is theirs, and THAT is essentially EVERYTHING.”

17. #17
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:50 pm, J S Ragman said:

    Groucho: “But I saw it with my own two eyes!”

    Chico: “Well, who you gonna’ believe, me, or your own two eyes?”

18. #18
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:54 pm, RedDog said:

    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:49 pm, yohannbiimu said:
    Obama’s definition of “tax” is thus:

    “Government laying claim to what is theirs, and THAT is essentially EVERYTHING.”

    There it is. All things are the property of the State, and by extension, Obama himself. Be grateful you are permitted to keep anything you pitiful wretches.

19. #19
    On September 21st, 2009 at 1:58 pm, RedDog said:

    Sooner or later, the American people will wise up. State legislatures and the people will eventually derail Little Napoleon and his Communist Congress.

20. #20
    On September 21st, 2009 at 2:02 pm, TigerLady said:

    sonofdy said:
    Clearly you being forced to give money to the government based on your income is not tax.
    Its a a a,…. hmmm… DONATION thats it yeah, a donatio

    Why don’t we just cut to the chase and call it what it is: theft.

    I had a lib try to tell me that even if The Won passes his health care bill it will not raise taxes on the middle class. He made some inane statement about finally rectifying the tax break that Busssssshhhhh gave to the rich.
    I laughed and walked away. Idiot sheep.

21. #21
    On September 21st, 2009 at 2:04 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    All your “donations” are blonging to us.

22. #22
    On September 21st, 2009 at 2:06 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Did not watch that interveiw, but Stephanopolous is not a particularly good interviewer. He is often unprepared. I recall him asking Pres Bush about ‘stay the course’ on Iraq and the President responded that he was never ‘stay the course’ on Iraq.

    What Stephanopolous should have done is read from the bill itself and not from the dictionary. This is not to defend Pres Obama but to demonstrate how much of a wet noodle Stephanopolous is.

    This would have never happened with Tim Russert.

23. #23
    On September 21st, 2009 at 2:10 pm, J S Ragman said:

    He made some inane statement about finally rectifying the tax break that Busssssshhhhh gave to the rich.

    Now, TigerLady, let’s be realistic here. Dropping the highest marginal tax rate from 38% to 35% was a travesty. The fact that the top 5% of earners in this country pay 59% of the tax dollars collected is not enough. How are we ever going to incent people to take risks and go out and make a fortune if we continue to do stupid stuff like letting them keep that money?

    Do I really need the sarc/ tag?

24. #24
    On September 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm, TigerLady said:

    J S Ragman said:

    Do I really need the sarc/ tag?

    LOL. Not for me.

25. #25
    On September 21st, 2009 at 2:16 pm, tre said:

    On September 21st, 2009 at 12:52 pm, On-my-soap-box said:
    So, if I can’t afford coverage (and I can’t) the IRS will collect a fee from me on my tax return?

    Sorta reminds me of the fine one pays on bounced checks: it’s a fine for not having enough money.

26. #26
    On September 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm, J S Ragman said:

    Based on the available evidence, one would have to conclude that Barry Soetoro must be running for President of the World, where the combined wealth of the most successful capitalist countries must be either eliminated or redistributed to third world backwaters, like, Kenya for example. Otherwise, why would he want to stifle the creativity and vitality of America’s best and brightest?

    Example: Universal Health Care (subsidized by those who already have health care).

    Example: Automaker bailouts (majority ownership given to the unions who ran the industry into the ground).

    Example: Cap and Trade (denying the use of our own natural resources, and forcing us to burn our own food).

    Somebody please tell this wingnut that there is no higher job than President of the United States.

27. #27
    On September 21st, 2009 at 2:48 pm, Mister P said:

    If they can change the definition of marriage, why not tax?

28. #28
    On September 21st, 2009 at 3:17 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    It really is like that movie.
    

    Well, first of all, there’s 17¢ new-in-town tax, and there’s 45¢ rowboat-under-the-wharf tax, and one dollar leaving-your-junk-lying-around-the-wharf tax, so all together, you owe the Commodore $1.87.

29. #29
    On September 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    n September 21st, 2009 at 1:58 pm, RedDog said:

    Sooner or later, the American people will wise up. State legislatures and the people will eventually derail Little Napoleon and his Communist Congress.

    they’d better hurry…frankly they should have listened to dear leader more closely while he was campaigning…he said exactly what he’d do and now look at what he is trying to do…

    obviously he has a different dictionary than we do..any extra tacked onto any product or service that is added to the cost of the product or service charged by the provider is a tax….

30. #30
    On September 21st, 2009 at 5:55 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    Didn’t VP Joe Biden say that it was our “patriotic duty” to pay more “contributions”?
    ***
    Like the character in ALICE IN WONDERLAND said, “Words mean anything I want them to mean!”
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

31. #31
    On September 21st, 2009 at 7:46 pm, shimauma2 said:

    maybe barry thought he meant “tacks” instead of tax….in which case he got agitated about the idea of a bunch of tacks sitting on his chair….

32. #32
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 4:29 am, Papa Louie said:

    When Obama decides to increase income taxes on the middle class, he will again deny that he is breaking his campaign promise. He will simply call it an income fee instead of an income tax. His supporters will agree with him because liberals hate capitalism and would have no problem with people being fined for making money. The more money you make by being productive, the more you will be fined for your misbehavior.

    In Obamaland Non-workers who receive welfare from the government are behaving properly because they are not evil capitalists, so they will not have to pay any income fees. And, of course, elite liberals who fail to report their full income and fail to pay income fees will be forgiven and made Czars.

33. #33
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:48 am, Mostly Annoyed said:

    I can’t believe anyone in their right mind would believe this is not a tax and I don’t think this is the right direction. If Obama is so concerned about the uninsured, perhaps he should prohibit healthcare providers from charging uninsured more than medicare or insurance companies.

    My cost without insurance for an MRI is $1,000. the insurance company paid $120 to the provider. My son’s hospital bill a few years ago came to over $50,000 yet the insurance company paid less than $15,000. I paid $1,000 out of my pocket and the Hospital tried to collect over $35,000 from me, untill I reported it to my insurance company.

    It may be legal and somewhat fair to grant insurance companies huge discounts, but that would make healthcare more affordable to uninsured without any new government infrastructure or taxes.