Cali’s man-caused drought: Senate rejects water restoration effort; Feinstein moans about “Pearl Harbor”

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 22, 2009 10:53 PM

Last week, FNC’s Sean Hannity traveled to the San Joaquin Valley to report on the man-made drought that’s wreaking havoc on farmers in the name of saving the Delta smelt:

Max Schulz has an excellent piece in this month’s issue of the American Spectator on the crisis — and the MSM’s unwillingness to confront it:

As California farmers lose their jobs by the tens of thousands to protect a tiny fish, the sad irony is that the delta smelt may not be faring much better. That’s not because of inadequate protections against humans offered by state and federal officials, but rather because those officials seem incapable of saving the delta smelt from nature’s predators. The smelt rarely grows much longer than three inches, and it is prey for any number of other creatures that inhabit the rivers of the San Joaquin Valley. As Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA), noted at a recent congressional hearing, the water diversions have not helped the delta smelt populations. There are quite a few officials who believe that the delta smelt is on Darwin’s fast track to extinction, despite the feel-good efforts of human environmentalists. McClintock’s congressional colleague, George Radanovich, is even rooting it on, calling the smelt “a worthless little worm that needs to go the way of the dinosaur.”

For their part, environmentalists who sue on behalf of the delta smelt consider the tiny fish to be an absolutely critical part of the food chain, feeding on plankton and in turn serving as food for larger fish and birds. If the delta smelt disappears, they warn ominously, the local food chain collapses. Whether that’s true or not, what the policies boil down to should be a matter of picking your calamity: should the fish (and others in the food chain) suffer, or should humans?

PERHAPS THE MOST MYSTIFYING ELEMENT of California’s farms-versus-fish imbroglio is the unwillingness of the media and the state’s political establishment (other than the elected representatives of the region) to confront the issue head-on. Sidestepping the tough questions involved, they refer instead to California’s lengthy drought as the cause of much of the state’s misfortune.

“California is in its third year of drought, and many farmers in the state’s crop-rich Central Valley are looking at dusty fields, or worse, are cutting down their orchards before the trees die,” according to National Public Radio in a report typical of the media coverage. “This year, farmers have been told they are getting only a small fraction of the water they need.” The alarm over California’s drought spread on both coasts. In Sacramento, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency, while in Washington Congress held hearings at which Democrats decried “California’s Katrina.”

Not surprisingly, global warming is being blamed for California’s drought. California’s drought was regularly invoked on Capitol Hill as Congress debated cap and trade legislation this summer. Energy Secretary Steven Chu gave this storyline a boost in February when he warned that drought will cause California’s vineyards and farms to vanish by the end of the 21st century if we fail to combat warming. “We’re looking at a scenario where there’s no more agriculture in California,” he told the Los Angeles Times.

The only problem with the idea of drought driving California’s misery is that it is largely a fiction.

Earlier tonight, GOP South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint tried to turn the water back on. The Senate voted down his amendment, 61-36. Here’s the roll call vote.

And here’s Sen. Feinstein’s bizarre statement in opposition to DeMint’s attempt to save farmers from eco-hysteria — in which she compares water restoration to, um, Pearl Harbor:

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  1. #1
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm, chapoutier said:

    Come on. We all know this is being caused by Noah Cross and his cronies at the Albacore Club.

  2. #2
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 pm, tiefelj said:

    Vote these people out of office

  3. #3
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Despicable that both Boxer and Feinstein would vote against this IN THEIR OWN STATE!

    What’s even more galling is typical of the RINO’s Snowe and Collins to vote against it as well. Why don’t they just do us a favor and just switch parties. I have NO idea what of them is Republican.

  4. #4
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    what “part” of them is Republican.

  5. #5
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:15 pm, onefed said:

    Hey, ya get what you vote for. Suck it up or move. Sorry, I’ve little sympathy for John Q. Public these days. These politicians did not appear ex nihilio. They came from the hole punch at the ballot box (setting aside voter fraud). We voted them in, their a reflection on our representative republic, we deserve every ounce of spanking we’re going to get until 2010 and 2012: state and national. Deal.

  6. #6
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:18 pm, Speakup said:

    California will finally return to red state status and Ca. Hispanics will never vote Democrat again.

    Arnie RINO eco whacko himself which is the ONLY reason this is happening.

    Another gov. would send the Ca. guard, turn the pumps on and dare anybody to turn them off again, but hey remember how glad Arnie was to get ALL the Fed stimulus money he could possibly grovel for and then gladly signed away any and all rights to control the operation of the state to the Feds President and eco religionists?

  7. #7
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:22 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    I am sure the farmers in the San Joaquin Valley did not vote for DiFi and The Boob Boxer, while the idiots in the blue parts of the state did. Wait until their food prices skyrocket…but ooohh wait Obama is President and they don’t have to worry about food because the One will miraculously feed them.

    We are screwed!

  8. #8
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 pm, txvet2 said:

    These farmers don’t count. DiFi got elected by the boobs who dwell in the cesspools and swamps of LA and San Francisco, just like the senators from every other state, and they’ll only stay in office as long as the free cash and benefits flow to the slums.

  9. #9
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 pm, Right By-The-Sea said:

    This is a national tragedy playing out on a California stage. A nation does not exist without its food supply, and the Leftist, enviro-f@&%$, in collusion with our Commie politicians, are doing this ON PURPOSE. Cut off the food and the energy supplies…control the population.

    For the record, I’ve lived here in CA for 3 years and voted against Feinstein last year, and will be voting [and working] against Boxer in her bid to keep her seat. People in the Central Valley are standing in lines to get donated food supplies in order to be able to eat, and these two horrible pieces of sh!# are voting to starve and impoverish their own constituents.

    Hey, Paul Rodriguez…still wanna give Obama and the Demoncraps the “benefit of the doubt?”

  10. #10
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 pm, BuckeyeSam said:

    What’s wrong with these people? How do independent voters allow these idiots to hold us hostage? This is unbelievable.

    Not that it matters, and I suppose I can expect this nonsense from Snowe and Collins, but what are Alexander (TN) and my Ohioan Voinovich thinking?

  11. #11
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:34 pm, ThunderHawkk said:

    BLOW UP THE DAMS! Or, whatever water system is that is damming the water.

    What madness!

    BLOW UP THE DAMS! Free us from tyranny!

  12. #12
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:35 pm, prendad said:

    Well, she is comparing Pearl Harbor to something. . .what I do not know. Maybe too many gins and tonic for lunch, or maybe breakfast? She sounds just like Pelosi. Read it, it makes no sense:

    “In a way this is a kind of Pearl Harbor, when everything we are trying to do, which is to work together, to put Interior in the lead, not to handcuff Interior, and that is the reason I objected to the amendment”.

    So, Pearl Harbor is like putting Interior in the lead without handcuffs?

  13. #13
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:35 pm, vickisoup said:

    It strikes me as completely ironic that the people who feel the strongest about Darwin’s theory, particularly the “survival of the fittest”, are the ones who would bankrupt and starve humans to save a smelt.
    Am I crazy, or isn’t that interfering with the natural order of things just a tad?
    :shock:

  14. #14
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm, USCitizen said:

    I would suggest the people of the San Joaquin Valley band together to turn the water on themselves – then stand guard over the valves against “the enforcers”.

    I would be proud to take the first guard shift.

  15. #15
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:39 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    If I recall, there was no shortage of water in Pearl Harbor.

    But really, let me get this right. They are trying to save fish by turning off the water? I seem to recall Snail Darters would be instinct if a damn was built to build up their natural habitat – WATER!!!! Later it turned out the fish were everywhere!

    I am supremely confused. I thought that Dems were the champions for the people? Am I missing something?

    It makes me wonder though, how many of these people who voted for “hope and change” realize they are facing the same “change” I face – no job for the first time in 30+ years!!!

    GAWD Dems are stooooopid! :roll:

  16. #16
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:42 pm, ThunderHawkk said:

    I can’t believe it. It was basically a party line vote.

    It appears that EVERY Demonrat voted NOT to turn the water back on and preserve the livilihood of all these farmers. I can’t take it anymore. And Demonrats are the party of the little guy?

    I WANT KATIE COURIC to tell me why she won’t cover this story and why Demonrats have the reputation of being for the little guy!!!

    I’m getting MAD!

  17. #17
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:44 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    I suggest diverting the water from San Francisco and Los Angeles to the farmers. Why do the folks in the city need to wash their cars and waste water on movie making and theme parks?

    Whats more important food or recreation?

  18. #18
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:45 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    I see both Dimocraps from Maine voted to keep the water off.

  19. #19
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:49 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    It’s all about power and control. That’s why libtards keep voting for Boxer and Feinstein. God knows I’ve tried…battling a huge uphill battle. And people wonder why I’m looking to move to NV?

    THIS IS WHY.

  20. #20
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:55 pm, lonecanoeist said:

    Term Limits

  21. #21
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 am, JustAThought said:

    And people wonder why I’m looking to move to NV?

    So you can work to get rid of that Idiot-Without-A-Village Harry Reid? ;)

  22. #22
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 am, d1carter said:

    Something tells me that this is about something other than the Delta Smelt.

  23. #23
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 am, Hangfire said:

    From what I understand, the water used in the fields in the San Joaquin valley comes from the mountains via aqueducts, and the farmers must use pumps to bring the water up from the aqueducts into their fields. This little fishy is too dumb to stay out of the pumps, and they die in the pump filters.

    So, if a bird or turtle eats the little smelt, it’s natural selection. But if humans kill the smelt, it’s raping mother earth, destroying critical eco-systems, harming Gaia, blah blah blah….

  24. #24
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 am, SpeakEasy said:

    The sooner CA falls off the edge of the US the better. They have nothing I need and represent everything wrong in this country. Good riddance.

  25. #25
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 am, SpeakEasy said:

    Someone should hold the water supply for Pelosi’s vineyard hostage until they turn the water back on for the San Joaquin Valley farmers.

  26. #26
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 am, ThunderHawkk said:

    Term limits? Well, yes, in theory that sounds like something. But, if some liberal idiot Senator is due to leave anyway, then what influence can we have over them? It seems to me that the only way we were able to stop the insanity of the health care bill was to threaten the bastards with non-reelection. If they were termed out, they’d just vote for the health care bill and tell us to blow off.

    Am I wrong?

  27. #27
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 am, tbear44 said:

    Smelt? Since when are they more important than humans?

  28. #28
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:57 am, LC said:

    SpeakEasy – nothing you need, huh? How much are you willing to bet that computer you’re sitting in front of wasn’t designed and developed in CA?

    Look, if you want to make statements about the obvious ineptitude of CA legislators, go right ahead. But please don’t take it out on the hard-working people of this state. The only reason this cesspool welfare state has not yet collapsed is because of the taxes of the few that work so diligently to carry the American Dream anyway they can.

  29. #29
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:00 am, guitarguy said:

    The delta smelt is like Macbeth’s ghost….or something….

    I’m dumber for having read this:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2007/oct/21/opinion/op-slack21

  30. #30
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:04 am, greenLibertarian said:

    This is typical clueless eco-activism by liberal politicians. They do nothing to prevent population growth, in fact they encourage it by welcoming mass immigration from people from high-birthrate countries, and then don’t support the farmers we need to sustain the resultant larger population. If our population were not so large, we would not be at the edge of disaster due to not having any more water reserves in California.

  31. #31
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:31 am, Defector01 said:

    Between this and environuts fighting construction of solar plants in the mojave desert (have you been out there? its INHOSPITABLE!), can we FINALLY stop claiming these environmentalist groups are really just trying to save the earth and are instead obviously a bunch of no growth anti human liberal nutjobs?

  32. #32
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:43 am, yohannbiimu said:

    I looked carefully at Senator Feinstein’s face as she was doing her incoherent rant, and I couldn’t tell whether she was insane or demon possessed–but regardless, she’s one or the other.

  33. #33
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:03 am, Freddy said:

    I thought Feinstein was very clear.

    She stated that water usage was a very compicated issue.

    She said that it was possible that this action could result in more lawsuits that needed to be avoided.

    What she did not say, was that she cares in any way about the farmers and farmworkers lives that are being destroyed by the current court system.

    She did not say that the starvation and death caused by not farming matters in any way to her.

    She thinks she can be the next governor of California.

  34. #34
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 am, greenLibertarian said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:31 am, Defector01 said:

    Between this and environuts fighting construction of solar plants in the mojave desert (have you been out there? its INHOSPITABLE!), can we FINALLY stop claiming these environmentalist groups are really just trying to save the earth and are instead obviously a bunch of no growth anti human liberal nutjobs?

    Here, here, should have mentioned that, and the Kennedys fighting wind farms off ‘their’ coast. These fake environmentalists seemingly prefer that we peons breathe dirty air to having ‘their’ eco-areas be compromised even slightly.

  35. #35
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:45 am, ajmontana said:

    This should be reported to the Odopey “Fishy web site”
    It Smelt awfully fishy to me. :roll:

  36. #36
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:17 am, jdtruly said:

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:35 pm, vickisoup said:
    It strikes me as completely ironic that the people who feel the strongest about Darwin’s theory, particularly the “survival of the fittest”, are the ones who would bankrupt and starve humans to save a smelt.

    How true. In order for “natural selection” to work, some species have to become extinct. The smelt seems like a good start.

  37. #37
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:22 am, omnipotent said:
  38. #38
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 am, papertiger said:

    This is linked to solar power projects, but not in the Mojave. There’s a place in Northern Caliornia called the Imperial Valley where the farmers grow organic foods (the same stuff they grow down in San Joaquin – except with more weeds and bugs) to cater to the needs of pretentious Marin County liberals.
    That’s the rich part of Cali. Those people don’t mind paying extra for the privilege of claiming they’re eco-conscious.
    They have a world to save and dammit, it doesn’t matter how many Latinos they have to kill to do it.

    But back to the Imperial Valley. Organic produce costs a bit more then regular, and it doesn’t take as much work.
    What it doesn’t do is pay enough extra so that organic farmers can afford to purchase on site solar power to run their operations.
    Unless they cut out the competition, with drives up the prices for the Imperial crops. The extra money coupled with Federal and State subsidies just about cover the cost of taking Imperial Valley completely off the grid.
    As long as the farmer doesn’t want to do an extra load of laundry or use the toaster.

  39. #39
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 am, papertiger said:

    So you turn off the spigot on your competition. Sounds like it would be hard to do considering the spigot is run by state water agency.

    they had to find plausible deniability. Say if there were a few inches less rain then usual they could call it a drought. That means an emergency. People do all sorts of stupid things in an emergency.

    But even Al Gore can’t control the rain. So how to do it?

    First you mandate that water flow is maintained at constant high rates never allowing the reservoirs to fill during the wet season.

    Then since 30 years of weather is imprinted in the publics mind as the definition of climate you search the records for the wettest 30 y period in history to use that as the measuring stick the current rainfall is judged by.
    Here in Sacramento back in the 80′s the average annual rainfall was 17.25 inches. From 94 to 2004 I watched it slowly creep up until today the paper claims the average annual rain total to be 19.87 inches. That’s a whole extra March worth of rain, totally fictional. Just on paper.
    So what do we get?
    If we get 16.8 inches of rain in a year – like last year – back in the 80′s it’s like “so what”, but here in 2009 that’s call the third year of drought.

    Now that still isn’t going to turn off the pumps. There has to be someone willing to file suit on behalf of the delta smelt.
    Lucky thing those organic farmers know so many people in Marin County.

  40. #40
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 4:36 am, papertiger said:

    seems like a good place to stick this.

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  41. #41
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 5:44 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    The loss of the some finest agricultural land in the United States is horrifying–we in Arizona are worried Yuma is on the Obaminites EcoFreak radar. But then PBHO did not lie to us-Paul Rodriquez should have been listening when Presidential Candidate B. Hussein Obama told us “We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times … and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,”

    Obama and friends constituency is the World, not the Central Valley. California pumps water over one mountain range after another to get water to Los Angeles. Now is B. Hussien would cut off that water I might believe him. We could say elections have consequences–but I fear Global Warming McCain would have shut off the water too.

  42. #42
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    How about let’s turn off the water inside the DC beltway and stop nuturing these monsters that that trample our Constitution.

    Can a single liberal out there describe to me HOW it can be that they are all for the natural selection aspect of evolutionary principle which allows for the demise and extinction of one species by way of the rise and dominance of another species …. unless that other species happens to be homo sapien?

    The Dodo bird isn’t around anymore and I’m really really sorry about it – but I fail to see how its erradication made any difference on a planet where over NINTY PERCENT OF ALL SPECIES BECAME EXTINCT BEFORE HUMANS EVEN WALKED ON IT?

    This one won’t either.

  43. #43
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 am, ctmom said:

    Obviously the lobbyists for the No. Cal. fishermen pay bigger bribes than the So. Cal. farmers do.

  44. #44
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 am, J.J. Sefton said:

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm, chapoutier said:
    Come on. We all know this is being caused by Noah Cross and his cronies at the Albacore Club.

    Great reference to one of my favorite films.

    In all seriousness, I think it’s time for the Governor to declare a state of emergency, call in the National Guard to protect the pumping stations and turn on the damned spigots. If not, then the farmers themselves should band together do it on their own in the interest of self-preservation. This insanity has gone on long enough with dire consequences for the farmers and for all Americans. Time for action, people.

  45. #45
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 7:34 am, jangar said:

    You all have this very wrong. The Dems are not stupid. They are all sold out to whatever movement and/or policy they can highjack to stay in power and grow government. It’s not about the people, America, environment, nat security, policy. It is about personal profit, and profit for the party. They ‘serve’ to be served.

  46. #46
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 7:36 am, MacEamonn said:

    Feinstein, and all Dimocrats like her, prove every day that the only thing that matters to them is the Dimocrat Party. It is Party over Country, Party over State, and Party over the people. What’s really sad is that there are still enough stupid people in California that she can be elected Governor anyway.

  47. #47
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:05 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    This sounds a little like the other man-made disaster in California back around the turn of the century (1900). The Salton Sea. That was a federal project if I recall correctly but California sure does like to mess with rivers…. to their own peril.

    Feinstein, Boxer and Pelosi. It’s a remarkable feat that one state could produce these three woman and send them to Washington. That’s sorta like being the Typhoid Mary of politics.

  48. #48
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:06 am, cabrerski said:

    This will be the new Bread and Fishes Miracle by the new Messiah as reported by historical revisionists and a doting media…

    “After teaching the people on five networks (except for the Fox – Satan – Network), ObamaMessiah realized he had to feed the masses. Rather than sending them out of the newly formed San Joaquin Desert, He took two river smelts, five loaves of bread, and a slew of food stamps and cash grants. He distributed the goods among the masses. After the crowds helped themselves, the disciples from Interior and Agriculture passed baskets into the crowds for scraps. They returned with the two smelts and the five loaves of bread – proving that He could create food to the faithful with such miniscule physical represntations.

    Two hundred followers fainted at the site of the Miracle and nine months later, all children born that month were named Obama.

    As he ventured forth, ObamaMessiah was overheard saying “Just you wait until you see my Healthcare Miracle”.

  49. #49
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:16 am, erbarker said:

    The San Joaquin Valley would be a good place to spend some of Obama’s stimulus money. A large desalination plant would solve the water problem and save the etty bitty fishy. It would also put people to work. Obumer, sorry Obama if you really want to help, here’s you chance.

  50. #50
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:29 am, beachmom said:

    I just called Snowe and Collins and left them very strong messages.
    I asked them what in the world they were thinking when they voted to keep the water off.
    First of all, being from ME they know as well as anyone that fishermen can use more than one kind of fish for bait.
    Second of all, they are putting the life of a 6″ bait fish over the lives of people.
    I asked Snowe where her head is at.

    These people are lbidiots and nothing more.

  51. #51
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:33 am, cabrerski said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:29 am, beachmom said:
    I asked Snowe where her head is at.

    Sorry, but where her head is currently situated, her hearing is just about shot. If you were a concerned constituent, perhaps you could send her a little bottle of Windex. That way she could keep her belly button clean and be able to see as she walked forward.

  52. #52
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:34 am, rplatt said:

    This current crop of Democrat politicians and few RINOs are absolutely insane. If the people don’t dump these idiots during the next two election cycles then they deserve their fate.

  53. #53
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:57 am, sonofdy said:

    This amazed me when I first heard it and it still does everytime I do.

    Ayn Rand was a Prophet.

  54. #54
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:58 am, orlandocajun said:

    Hey, California…this is what you get when you continue to elect corrupt liberal sell-outs to Congress. How much more suffering do you need to endure in order to see Pelosi, Feinstein and Boxer for the whores that they are. The farmers don’t have the campaign money to give them, so they sell out to the wackos on the environmental front.

    The liberals in your state government have bankrupted the state and the liberals in Washington are providing the assault from the left flank.

    You can pay for a few million more illegal aliens, watch business (taxpayers) leave the state in droves, watch the crop fields systematically destroyed and listen to the celebrities there blame George Bush, or you can warm up to Hunter and Rohrbacher. They might be the only two politicians left in the state who have integrity and care about you. Then, you just might have a shot at survival. Otherwise, the worst is yet to come.

  55. #55
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 8:59 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    If they care so much, how come they ordered pizza with anchovies for lunch?!

  56. #56
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 am, md1964 said:

    Remove God from our lives, and man becomes equal to a freaking 2 inch minnow. Great Job (Sarcasm) US Govt.

  57. #57
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 am, TigerLady said:

    ctmom said:
    Obviously the lobbyists for the No. Cal. fishermen pay bigger bribes than the So. Cal. farmers do.

    Did anyone see Sean’s show about the farmer’s plight? I only caught part of it where he interviewed a man who was talking about the salmon industry and that if the water was turned back on it would threaten them. I didn’t catch enough of the story to fully understand his point. It seemed it was more about the water supply than the smelt.

    I think we are headed for a revolution that is going to be more violent than anything we’ve witnessed (or been a part of) in our lifetime. How long will people in the San Joaquin valley stand and watch?

    Scary stuff. I think I’ve said this before: time to buy a gun.

  58. #58
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 am, happyscrapper said:

    Sounds like they tried to bail out the smelt when they should have just let it go bankrupt.

    I believe in Natural Selection…and the democrats are going to be extinct in about 1 year.

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 am, md1964 said:
    Remove God from our lives, and man becomes equal to a freaking 2 inch minnow.

    So true!!!

  59. #59
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 am, cntryjoe said:

    Does anyone have insight on why the Ca National Guard can or can’t be ordered to turn on the spigots? Is it a spineless, double-talking eco-governator refusing to do so? Or is it more complicated than that?
    Thanks.

  60. #60
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 am, happyscrapper said:

    I agree with whoever said they should call in the National Guard, turn on the water, then stand against anyone who tries to interfere. This is war. The environwackos seem to have been winning thus far, but we must take back our country!! The fight is on for our very existence.

  61. #61
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 am, Mojave Mark said:

    California, your votes have finally come home to roost. This is what happens when you vote for liberals and are ruled by liberals. Next time vote conservative. This entire story is utterly absurd. The fact that the Democrat media complex won’t cover it is equally absurd.

  62. #62
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 am, happyscrapper said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 am, cntryjoe said:

    Sorry…we posted at the same time about the National Guard. It does seem like a good solution, but I also don’t know if there are other ramifications to doing that!!

  63. #63
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 am, happyscrapper said:

    Perhaps the liberal media will start reporting on this when they find their arugula suppy all dried up! :roll:

  64. #64
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:31 am, zyzzyg said:

    Some bailouts and subsidies are better than others, I suppose.

  65. #65
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 am, swede said:

    The water issue in the San Juaquin Valley is way more complex than this little fishy. I spent a few months in Fresno six years ago, and happened to be there during an election cycle. There is one, and only one issue during elections there. Water.

    San Juaquin Valley has it, LA and SF want it. Big time.

    The draught is a factor, but a large percentage of the water in the valley is runoff from the snow melt in the Sierra’s, retained in huge resevoirs. The snowfall last winter was above average.

    The San Juaquin River and tributaries empty into SF Bay. I rather suspect the minnows are mostly a diversion to get more fresh water into SF. Somebody from the area could probably give a better analysis, but I’d bet this has more to do with water supply politics than minnows.

  66. #66
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:33 am, no2pcbs1 said:

    the only drought is in any liberal’s brain activity, it has been lacking for years to the point where critical thinking is extinct.

  67. #67
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am, pabarge said:

    I feel sorry for the California farmers but dudes, both their senators voted to keep the water turned off.

    Note that only two Republicans voted to keep the water turned off and both those Republicans were the two RINO-twins from Maine, Snowe and Collins.

    Not one Democrat voted to turn the water back on. Not one. Let me repeat myself: NOT ONE.

    If you are a farmer in California, you are quite simply and totally F’ed.

    So sorry.

  68. #68
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 am, PhredE said:

    ” On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:04 am, greenLibertarian said:

    This is typical clueless eco-activism by liberal politicians. They do nothing to prevent population growth, in fact they encourage it by welcoming mass immigration from people from high-birthrate countries, and then don’t support the farmers we need to sustain the resultant larger population. If our population were not so large, we would not be at the edge of disaster due to not having any more water reserves in California.”

    Indeed. I’m glad another poster pointed out the inherent ambiguity by those seemingly contradictory but concurrent positions.

    The latest population projection by the Census Bureau (adjusted by comparison with past trends, current growth rates, etc) places the US total in the high end of available estimates. Assuming current trends continue, the US population will rise to 1.1 BILLION persons at year 2100 (from the current 307 million). You say, ‘you’re joking, right’? Nada.

    Most of the net population growth comes from illegal and legal immigration (directly) and the children born to immigrants. We take in more immigrants than any other country on the planet.
    But… we can’t be the safety valve for everyone from everywhere

    (Let me recommend Roy Beck’s / NumbersUSA “Immigration Gumballs” Video – he makes the point simply and graphically for all to see).

  69. #69
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am, graysonret said:

    From LA:

    The City Council on Tuesday passed an ordinance that—with few exceptions—allows only one rooster per property. It was spurred by complaints over noise and hygiene and concerns over illegal cockfighting.

    As you can see, there are more important things to discuss than protecting farmers. :)

  70. #70
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 am, rplatt said:

    This country is run by senseless idiots and is spiraling down the sewer at warp speed.

  71. #71
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:47 am, MarcoPolo said:

    I agree – they need to march their liberal butts up there and turn the valves back on themselves.

    These people won’t even fight for their own water?

  72. #72
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    happyscrapper said: …This is war…

    Or at least a good place for CA to stand it’s ground on the Tenth Amendment.

    There’s nothing in the Constitution about smelt rights- I doubled checked!

  73. #73
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am, MarcoPolo said:

    If you are a farmer in California, you are quite simply and totally F’ed.

    Apparently Pelosi’s vineyards aren’t in that valley?

  74. #74
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 am, happyscrapper said:

    Maybe if we make it clear that destroying all that farmland puts a lot of illegal aliens out of work…the liberals will see the light and turn on the water. That kind of logic might get to them. :roll:

  75. #75
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 am, stillontheroad said:

    When the libtards can’t eat fresh veggies and arugala or what ever that weed is – then lets see what happens.

  76. #76
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 am, stillontheroad said:

    In the winter I should add

  77. #77
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    PhredE said: (Let me recommend Roy Beck’s / NumbersUSA “Immigration Gumballs” Video – he makes the point simply and graphically for all to see).

    Good point – here’s a link to one of Roy’s excellent videos. His work should be shown in every classroom in the USA.

  78. #78
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am, cntryjoe said:

    According to Wikipedia’s account of the presidential election: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:California_Presidential_Election_Results_by_County,_2008.svg
    This shows that the San Joaquin Valley was mostly red, so this could explain why the Dems want to starve these people. Disgusting.

  79. #79
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 10:05 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    happyscrapper said:..puts a lot of illegal aliens out of work ..

    Because libs are RACISTS!

  80. #80
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am, ThackerAgency said:

    The whole country would be better off without DC trying to ‘help’ us.

    The fact that Feinstein doesn’t see this as an emergency for her constituents shows me that people in DC become constituents of DC. . . they no longer represent the people in their districts.

  81. #81
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am, Jimmie said:

    Is it not strange that Ms. Di Fi has to lie stupidly and play the part of the fool unless…..the water that we are talking about, that now belongs to farmers, has already been given to others ( guess South California). This water is now fairly expensive….but after many delays and feet dragging…the telling of absurd lies…. “pear harbor” ….give me a break….the farmers go bankrupt….their water and their land will be very cheep…and we all will have forgotten about it when Di Fi’s buddies or maybe HerSelf….quietly buys up the land and water rights of the farms that have gone to foreclosure It has Nothing to do with fish…when the water rights have been taken the fish will be forgotten. and the water will flow to those “who really deserve it?”

  82. #82
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 am, Mister P said:

    It is all about stealing the farmers land. It is right out of Lenin’s play book.

  83. #83
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Jimmie said:… and the water will flow to those “who really deserve it?”

    I. E. all people will have an equal share of water but some people are more equal than others.

  84. #84
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 11:58 am, yohannbiimu said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 am, PhredE said:

    The latest population projection by the Census Bureau (adjusted by comparison with past trends, current growth rates, etc) places the US total in the high end of available estimates. Assuming current trends continue, the US population will rise to 1.1 BILLION persons at year 2100 (from the current 307 million). You say, ‘you’re joking, right’? Nada.

    Most of the net population growth comes from illegal and legal immigration (directly) and the children born to immigrants. We take in more immigrants than any other country on the planet.
    But… we can’t be the safety valve for everyone from everywhere…

    This is not correct, in terms of what you say about “most” of the population grow comes from illegal and legal immigration. ALL of the grown (what there is) is coming from non-citizens.

    Also, our TOTAL growth rate in terms of babies being born is only 2.01, so that means that American citizens aren’t baring children, so there isn’t going to be this enormous population grown. In fact, as our economy and culture is denigrated, I do not see this rate to continue, because the fatality rate will undoubtedly increase astronomically as the government ceases to be able to handle their nanny-statist “responsibilities.”

    The left is taking humanity to a point where we will be only fending for ourselves, because civilization is being broken down, and societies are being rendered non-existent. When this happens, our population will plummet, because selfish personal survival will be the only thing that matters, and in the end, that will destroy our future as a nation.

  85. #85
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm, Southpaw said:

    Heh, heh. I live in a very red part of California. We have a new reservoir, a new gas fired power plant, all the sunshine needed for Obamas idiotic green revolution. We are also building a new pipeline to steal more water from the blue part of the state. All of the illegals are leaving and their jobs are being taken by Americans.

    We’ll see you NIMBY liberals when you come begging….

  86. #86
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm, Flyoverman said:

    What is the scale of human misery that the MSM is willing to accept to provide cover for the Democrat party and their special interests?

    I am beginning to think not reporting on sending undersireable people to “showers” and then burning their remains in furnaces will be acceptable to them, if it promotes the cause.

  87. #87
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm, Right By-The-Sea said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 am, Mister P said:
    It is all about stealing the farmers land. It is right out of Lenin’s play book.

    Bullseye!! :-)

  88. #88
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm, mattm said:

    So let the humans starve to(maybe) save soem fish. Got it. Where have our elected officials goen wrong?

  89. #89
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm, battleaxe said:

    I guess I don’t understand liberal double-think. They swear by Darwin and cause holy hell if you suggest a prime mover. They go even more crazy when you suggest that we let Darwin’s theory take its course and actually allow a species to go extinct.

    Do they really understand and believe Darwin’s theory or are they just paying lip-service to Darwin in order to cause economic and religious havoc?

  90. #90
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm, rightwingmom said:

    GOP Senators who refuse to help farmers!

    Alexander (TN) 202-224-4944
    Collins (ME) 202-224-2523
    Snowe (ME) 202-224-5344

    Call and give them your (respectful) opinion that humans and the economy are more important than a bait fish!

  91. #91
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Here are the CA Senator’s numbers:

    Boxer 202-224-3553
    Feinstein 202-224-3841

    Respectfully load up their voice mail.
    (I’m assuming you won’t get a human when you call!)

  92. #92
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:28 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    LC, nope. One of them is made in Japan and the other in China. Most of the parts are manufactured in Taiwan. California still has nothing I need, Unless I find myself in need of A-holes.

    Look, I know not all Californians are bad people but I believe in personal responsibility. They (including you I guess) let their state get out of control. So fix it – yourselves. It certainly is not my responsibility, nor that of taxpayers from other states, to fix your ineptitude.

    jdtruly: I would add Californians to that list. But perhaps they can “evolve?”

  93. #93
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    One word California voters: recall.

    If not now, when?

  94. #94
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:46 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Who’s buying the farmer’s land?

    Would we be surprised to see GE solar panels on this land in a few years???

  95. #95
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Southpaw said:

    It gets a little tiring. Every time Michelle Malkin posts a topic about California, people feel the need here to dump on all Californians. Seems petty.

  96. #96
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm, The Ugly American said:

    C’mon Diane….you’re usually the rare voice of reason from the liberal side of our state.

    What the hell is she thinking?

  97. #97
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Sounds like loaves and fishes have been replaced by fishy loafers.

    ECS

  98. #98
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Southpaw said:
    It gets a little tiring. Every time Michelle Malkin posts a topic about California, people feel the need here to dump on all Californians. Seems petty.

    I agree, and I can relate. They do that to Minnesota too. I guess we have to develope a thicker skin. But it does hurt sometimes. There are plenty of good people in the moonbat states, who can’t leave for many reasons. I would hope people would be a bit kinder, especially our friends on these threads.

  99. #99
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Southpaw, Guilty as charged but then you (collectively) are low hanging fruit(s). We have every right to call you out collectively when we, the taxpayers from other states, have to bail out your reckless and feckless behavior. Sucks to be you.

  100. #100
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Sorry, SpeakEasy…I’m just not real fond of your tone here. A bit more civility to your fellow conservatives would be nice. We are on the same side, and we get enough crap from the libs. Just my opinion.

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