Hollywood & MoveOn.org’s insurance industry-bashing video

By Michelle Malkin  •  September 22, 2009 11:54 AM

Make a note of the Hollywood celebrities featured in this health insurance industry-bashing joint production from MoveOn.org and Will Ferrell, Jon Hamm, Olivia Wilde, et al.

No word yet on whether they’ll be making a protest video about the fund-raiser for Nancy Pelosi in Washington, D.C. being hosted by UnitedHealth care lobbyist Steve Elmendorf — or targeting the Washington, D.C. law and lobbying offices of Alston & Bird, where Obama health care advisor Tom Daschle consults for UnitedHealth.

Like I always say:

Corporate Shills for Hope and Change get a pass.

***

Related: MoveOn’s Maryland chapter is holding a mock “funeral” targeting UnitedHealth:

In Maryland, they plan to drive a hearse through downtown Rockville and place a casket at the door of the office of United Health care Insurance Company. They say United is a member of a national organization representing health insurance companies that has spent millions opposing healthcare reform.

No word on whether the procession will head to Pelosi and Daschle’s offices…

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  1. #1
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 11:57 am, b-cat said:

    Will Ferrell is making it real hard to like Will Ferrell.

  2. #2
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm, twiggman said:

    NO..Not Olivia Wilde… Damm…

  3. #3
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm, Pat said:

    Hollywood doubles down on the “demonization” bet. They ignore the true issue that drives America’s objection to the public option: insurance companies are not great but government is WORSE.

    Keep mocking us, Hollywood, keep digging that hole.

  4. #4
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    I haven’t laughed at Will Farrell in a long time.

    Are these Hollywood types so dense they can’t connect the dots between the money that funds their jobs and supports their lifestyles and “artistic” desires comes from profits? Comes from investments from places such as these dreaded insurance companies?

    The stupidity on display is astounding.

  5. #5
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm, letget said:

    I hate to say, but I have never heard of these people and really do not care what they have to say. My trusty mute button will do.
    L

  6. #6
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 pm, tonyr951 said:

    80% support the public option?

    If 80% supported the public option they would not have wasted their time making this video.

  7. #7
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:07 pm, rambler said:

    More over payed Hollywood types who think they are relevant. They haven’t a clue how to fix the health care problems.

  8. #8
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Everyone has their own agenda and how they express it, whether with humor, pointing out tenuous associations, or the coverage of their clothes, is fair game depending on their point of veiw. People take shots, and sometimes they are cheap ones.

    Such is the level of political discourse.

  9. #9
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm, spaceycakes said:

    As my mom always said,
    ‘if you don’t have anything to do, I can find you something to do…’

    Don’t these cretins have TV programs to make? A talk show to show up on? Some party at Elton John’s house where there’s some awesome amylnitrate poppers being passed around?

  10. #10
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    They got the 80% support right. 80% of the American people like their insurance and don’t trust the government.

  11. #11
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 pm, vickisoup said:

    I’m not giving up my Talladega Nights or my Blades of Glory DVD’s. I just won’t. But I may skip his next one…..

  12. #12
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm, cicerokid said:

    okeedokee.
    Insurance company profit-bad.
    Film company profit-good.

  13. #13
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I can’t find my reading glasses. I can’t remember the last time I needed them.

  14. #14
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:26 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    What about Hollywood actors’ “obscene profits”???

  15. #15
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm, Salt said:

    I wouldn’t mind movie insurance. Why should I have to pay out-of-pocket for much of the garbage released by Hollywood these days?

    Are actors going to reduce their salaries for the diminished quality of their work?

  16. #16
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:31 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Will Ferrell is one of the least funny people in America. He is an ignoramus of the first magnitude.

    He was on SNL recently and bombed on every skit he was in. In fact, the only humor on the show was when Tom Hanks made a cameo appearance on the Jeopardy skit. Ferrell was awful! Why do people pay any attention to what he says or does anyone? Even Ben Affleck makes more sense than Ferrell…

  17. #17
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    80% of Americans support a public option? Uhhhh… I don’t think so chief.

    Don’t these brainless actors know they can’t trust anything used in an Obama speech?

    Those who Can…. Do…

    Those who Can’t…. become actors…

  18. #18
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 pm, Veretax said:

    Is it me or were all of these ‘actors’ and ‘actresses’ employee’s of NBC?

    Btw, where are they getting this ridiculous 80% support a public option number?

  19. #19
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm, Salt said:

    Ultimately, this video won’t make a dent in the on-going arguments. Let the union actors think they’ve made a difference.

  20. #20
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Oh noooo! Not Ricky Bobby! If you’re not first, you’re last!

  21. #21
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm, maisy said:

    SHUT UP and ACT!!!

    If you ask me these people are very OVERPAID!!!

  22. #22
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

    Will Ferrell needs to shut his yap….he lives in frakkin’ SWEDEN with his wife and kids.

  23. #23
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm, tre said:

    As Laura Ingraham said,

    Shut Up And Sing

  24. #24
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm, John Deaux said:

    Et tu, Lt. Dangle?

  25. #25
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm, happy2behere said:

    I actually have United Health Care as my insurance provider and they’re not bad. They had the best deal for our employees, that’s why we bought it.

    Yes, I know we are paying higher premiums beacuse 1 in 6 Coloradoans have no health insurance and that’s a problem. But why would I want to trade universal health care in exchange for my freedom?

  26. #26
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 12:59 pm, glockomatic said:

    Who’s Will Ferrell and why should I care what he thinks?

    *yawn*

  27. #27
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:10 pm, greenfairie said:

    Oh, Hiro, how could you??

    Of course these Hollywood schumucks like socialist health care. They won’t have to wait in line with the rest of the peasants the next time they have a drug overdose or a bad herpes outbreak. Either they pull a “do you know who I am” and get put first in line or they hightail it to some foreign private clinic out of the country on their Gulfstream.

  28. #28
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:19 pm, Gorebot said:

    Dang! I played that video forgetting to turn off my proprietary Stupid-O-Meter, and the darn thing exploded!!!

    I need – I have a right to — “Affordable Device Insurance” for when single-celled amoebas like these break my stuff.

    This is an outrage!!!

  29. #29
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Veretax said:

    Btw, where are they getting this ridiculous 80% support a public option number?

    They just make it up.

    But you can ask a question in a survey to illicit a particular result. Then mangle the information to make it appear to match your agenda.

    ie. Carve out a scenario that will garner few objections, then generalize and say it represents the broader issue.

  30. #30
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    and what’s up with the text?????

  31. #31
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    So the average income of these celebrities is probably more than all of us here combined.

    Why aren’t THEY giving away THEIR wealth for “health care reform”? Oh…that’s right. They know that they’ll be able to afford private care while the common folk languish in dirty hospitals. Just like the poor Cubans whose dear leader they love so much.

    Biggest bunch of hypocrites ever. These people made a living off the very kind free market system we have in this country. And when I say “made a living” I mean made a fortune. Just like that ego-maniac Michael Moore…if capitalism is so bloody evil, why are you releasing a film expecting to make a PROFIT on it?

    I think it’s high time we started boycotting television shows and movies and sponsors of the same whenever stars who take for granted our country get involved in stupid drivel like this. I know when Obama’s tax hikes come through, my entertainment budget is the first to go…

  32. #32
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Villans and Victims; the lifeblood of the Left.

    They have a lock majority in Congress, but it is the Republicans, crazy tea party zealots and EVIL insurance companies who are at fault. We cannot jsut be wrong; we have to be vilified.

    The Nazi’s depended on this approach.

    I wrote my Congressman and told him I hoped they passed Obamacare, because I want to be able to watch the entire Democrat Congress drive to work in one minivan after the election.

    Bring it.

  33. #33
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:31 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:21 pm, NJ-Aviator said:
    and what’s up with the text?????

    Oh so it’s not just me. I thought I was going blind!

  34. #34
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:39 pm, Gorebot said:

    Well, now we’ve reached yet another milestone of congenital idiocy.

    Here we have Hollywood millionaires, who reap fortunes regurgitating endless loops of what often is no more than vapid trash, villifying millionaire insurance excutives who (while not saints) are at least providing something essential to a significant majority of the population.

    This is all so warped it makes even a pretzel dizzy!

  35. #35
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:41 pm, cheapseat said:

    SHUT UP PERIOD. FARRELL NEVER COULD ACT, SO MOVE ON RICKY MORON.

  36. #36
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:43 pm, tre said:

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:26 pm, englishqueen01 said:
    So the average income of these celebrities is probably more than all of us here combined.

    Our favorite Crockumentary maker hopes to make a million bucks off of his crockumentary bashing people for making a million bucks.

  37. #37
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    Maybe the Hollyleft actors will make a movie about the old doofuss guys like me who were forced to pay into Medi”Care” and Social “Security” for 40 or 50 years–and will see the rug pulled out from under us soon as benefits are cut and doctors refuse to accept Medicare patients.
    ***
    Or when the benefits are taxed. Or when “means tests” raise our costs. Or when our 401(K) and IRA’s are taken over by the socialists / statists / communists as they “socialize” the new U.S.S.A. Dog food and rice anyone? As we are forced to pay thousands of dollars more into ObamaCare.
    ***
    Hope and Change will occur in 2010 and 2012–but it will be a rough ride waiting to get rid of these clowns.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  38. #38
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Average cable TV package is around $65.00 per month.

    12 months X $65.00 = $780.00.

    Buy a health care plan instead. Spend more time outside exercising and playing with kids, pets, significant other. Life will improve.

  39. #39
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm, Jeddite said:

    People still think Will Ferrell is funny?

    Are these the same people who still find Tom Greene and Adam Sandler funny?

  40. #40
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:49 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    I didn’t know Will Farrell was capable of uttering a coherent sentence…and who are these other irrelevant people?

  41. #41
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:50 pm, jbh45 said:

    will farrell: another loser from USC.

  42. #42
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm, RetFireman said:

    Funny or Die conviniently left out the fact this is a paid ad from Moveon.org when they Twittered it this morning. See, I was watching it and couldn’t figure out where they got their erroneous information from, such as 80% of the population wanting the Public Option, when in actuality tje Obama Healthcare Plan has bern polling at greater than 52% NOT wanting the plan at all.

    In fact, there are only 58% of UNINSURED that want this plan, where not surprisingly, 48% of those are Dems and only 26% Republican.

    So, this is nothing but a failed attempt at humor coupled with the standard Hollywood idiots demonstrating that they are not only uninformed, but are easily fooled into believing anything they are told as long as it goes along with their emotions, as well as yet another demonstration of Moveon.org lying to the public to get the Liberal/Socialist agenda by any means possible.

    Anyone buying into their crap only demonstrates their own stupidity along with their laziness at gathering their own information.

  43. #43
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm, chapoutier said:

    Buy a health care plan instead

    You wanna let us in on where you can buy a health insurance plan for your family for $780.00 a year when the average monthly premium is about $380?

    And is anyone else’s font really small for this page only?

  44. #44
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:11 pm, tre said:

    And is anyone else’s font really small for this page only?

    Chappy, I know, absitively, posilutely that it’s a plot by the Obama administration to silence Michelle.

  45. #45
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm, prendad said:

    This might be Will Ferrell’s first funny movie in years.

  46. #46
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm, RobM1981 said:

    And if you can’t believe Will Ferrell, who can you believe?

    Will Ferrell is “jumping the shark” incarnate. Put him on your hollywood project and, poof, you have a guaranteed dud.

    He’s Jerry Lewis, without the brains, business acumen or humanity.

  47. #47
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm, Salt said:

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm, chapoutier said:

    And is anyone else’s font really small for this page only?

    Yep. It’s due to the div tag just before the “***” in Michelle’s update. The font-size is set to x-small.

    You wanna let us in on where you can buy a health insurance plan for your family for $780.00 a year when the average monthly premium is about $380?

    Sure. Just as soon as President Obama explains how the government will be able to do this based wholly on premiums and without raising the deficit (with verification from the CBO).

  48. #48
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:14 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    As usual, Chappy intentionally misrepresents what was said. Only a failed, left-wing, ambulance chasing lawyer could so willfully twist the words in this fashion. Chappy must be starting on that Wild Irish Rose “Sidecar” early today…

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 1:47 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Average cable TV package is around $65.00 per month.

    12 months X $65.00 = $780.00.

    Buy a health care plan instead. Spend more time outside exercising and playing with kids, pets, significant other. Life will improve.

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:07 pm, chapoutier said:

    Buy a health care plan instead

    You wanna let us in on where you can buy a health insurance plan for your family for $780.00 a year when the average monthly premium is about $380?

    And is anyone else’s font really small for this page only?

  49. #49
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:15 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I’ll take ‘Anal Bum Cover’ for $200, Alex.

  50. #50
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:17 pm, chapoutier said:

    Only a failed, left-wing, ambulance chasing lawyer could so willfully twist the words in this fashio

    How did I misrepresent? Please be specific.

  51. #51
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:27 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Read my post, you illiterate, dissembling ambulance chaser! I deliberately posted the original post and your dissimulating response just so it would be obvious, even to you. Read it again, very slowly and your prevarication should be obvious even to an intoxicated, failed, ambulance chaser like you.

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:17 pm, chapoutier said:

    Only a failed, left-wing, ambulance chasing lawyer could so willfully twist the words in this fashio

    How did I misrepresent? Please be specific.

  52. #52
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:30 pm, chapoutier said:

    Read my post, you illiterate, dissembling ambulance chaser! I deliberately posted the original post and your dissimulating response just so it would be obvious, even to you. Read it again, very slowly and your prevarication should be obvious even to an intoxicated, failed, ambulance chaser like you.

    That was kind of you. But if you could be so kind as to specifically point out what you feel I misrepresented we could save ourselves a lot of this unnecessary back and forth. If it is so obvious it wouldn’t take you too long to simply humor me.

  53. #53
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:31 pm, vsatt said:

    Sorry WarEagle (and you don’t know how it pains me to disagree with anyone who goes by that screenname) but I’m with Chap on this one (that was a little painful too). I’m not seeing where saving $65 a month pays for someone’s health plan. It would cover my family’s dental premium but our medical is still another $500 a month and that’s from my husband’s employer — a large, national department-store chain. When we were self-employed, comparable insurance was a couple hundred a month higher.

  54. #54
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:41 pm, Gorebot said:

    Folks, the answer to this problem of “exhorbitant” health care premiums is to PERMIT insurance companies to:

    1). Operate across state lines; and,
    2). Sell whatever sells (as oppossed to the current situation where the liberal mindset has caused virtually every state to require “what’s covered” and “what’s not”; which, of course, is absurd).

    If Obambi & Co. were to allow just these changes, then premiums would decrease substantially.

    But of course, “affordability” and “choise” are not what the ObamaTrons really want.

    What they really want is … CONTROL!

  55. #55
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm, sbw999 said:

    I’m conservative, and I don’t favor a public option. I am in favor of inter state private competition, that will mean real competition. I want tort reform as well. I DO favor regulation of abusive practices by insurance companies. I will tell you this: insurance companies are the biggest effing thieves on the face of the planet. I have worked with them professionally and personally, and have seen them engage in bad faith so many times, I’ve lost count.

    On a personal level, I just had an experience where I bought a policy with a well known health insurance company. Then I had the audacity to actually use my coverage, and lo and behold, I get a letter of termination for alleged failure to disclose a medical condition in my initial application. I had actually disclosed the condition to my insurance agent who for the reasons below stated decided not to put the info in the application. That condition (sleep apnea) had in fact been treated with the usual course of treatment (a CPAP machine to assist in night time breathing) two years prior to my application. I had received no further treatment for sleep apnea. My current treatment was for something wholly unrelated to sleep apnea and of course unknown at the time of the application. Yet after going through 3 levels of appeal with this company, I was still tossed out. This type of thing is repeated over and over again all over the Country. There are people employed by insurance companies that are paid to do this to people. I have since gotten insurance elsewhere. But to me, insurance companies are unethical, premium hogs. For once, Hollywood knuckleheads got it right, at least on the nature of thieving insurance companies.

  56. #56
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:48 pm, rightwingmom said:

    John Stossel “Insurance Makes Healthcare Far More Expensive”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnS96NVlMI&feature=player_embedded

    Health Care capitalism is bad but Hollywood capitalism is good???
    How much $$$ will Farrell get for his next movie?
    More than my husband in his lifetime!
    Shut up and act!

  57. #57
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm, chapoutier said:

    How much $$$ will Farrell get for his next movie?

    Less than he did prior to “Land of the Lost”, no doubt.

  58. #58
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm, traveler49 said:

    Stooges…I pity the foos.

  59. #59
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm, Bruce said:

    How the hell can anyone take seriously words that emanate from the mouths of idiots who live in a fairytale world? They exist in worlds of their own creation! Other people tell they what words to speak, where to stand, what to do with their hands while talking. If any of these idiots had a cogent thought it would be too lonesome to understand.

    Talk about irrelevance? WHO CARES what these people have to say!

  60. #60
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm, LauraC said:

    Other than than old guy who was in the cowbell skit on SNL and that lame Elf movie, I don’t know who any of those people are.

    As to whether people can afford insurance… yes, they can, most of them.

    With an average income of about $63,000, families spend $2853 on health care. Interestingly, these strapped, financially burdened people who can’t possibly pay more for their health care do manage to squeeze out $2698 for entertainment, $323 on tobacco and another $457 on alcohol. That’s a total of $3478, or about $290 a month. Call me crazy, but I say most people can afford to pay for more healthcare if they really needed to. They’re just calling themselves victims and demanding to be protected from the consequences of their financial choices.

  61. #61
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 pm, chapoutier said:

    As to whether people can afford insurance… yes, they can, most of them.

    This is true. most people CAN afford health insurance and most people DO have it. I don’t think anyone is denying that.

    But those figures don’t really say much about what to do with the people that are below average with respect to earnings, does it?

  62. #62
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 3:20 pm, Desert Dave said:

    When funny people start taking themselves too seriously its really a turnoff. Robin Williams, jim carrey are good examples. Who are the others? Linda Cardellini played a nurse on ER, Olivia Wilde is a DR. on House, so I guess that makes them qualified to discuss health care. 80% want a Public Option?? These people must really think we’re morons just because we watch their movies, TV shows. And it really sounds re-donkulous coming from these people who can get gold star health care without making a dent in their bank accounts. Please stick to what you know!

  63. #63
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm, LauraC said:

    But those figures don’t really say much about what to do with the people that are below average with respect to earnings, does it?

    All the legislation I’ve read includes people who are solid middle earners, $50k and up. There is absolutely no reason to subsidize people who should be taking care of themselves but instead choose to live a better lifestyle than they can afford. For people who are below average, there are adequate safety nets. I know, because at times I’ve been in them, including being on welfare and Medicaid.

    All lifestyle choices should not be equally rewarded. If I am on food stamps and blow my budget on expensive food (chips, sodas, pre-processed food) then no one should feel sorry for me if I’m hungry until the next month. (Google “food stamp diet” for ample proof that food stamp allowances are adequate.) If I make $50k a year and spend money on entertainment and luxuries, why should taxpayers take care of my basic needs when I refuse to?

    Few people argue with having some kind of safety net. But it is unsustainable to make the net so large most of society qualifies for it.

  64. #64
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm, chapoutier said:

    All the legislation I’ve read includes people who are solid middle earners, $50k and up.

    Includes people in what, exactly?

  65. #65
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm, ErinF said:

    Ferrell is, was, and always will be a big ass.

    These dolts will never stop squawking! Their dictator-wanna-be won, and they’re squawking!

  66. #66
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm, LauraC said:

    Sorry to be unclear, chap – subsidizes them. In fact, the figure I saw most and was able to quickly find a link with more info was 400% above poverty level – which is about $100k.

    And recall, SCHIP targeted the solidly middle class at 300% of the poverty level.

    Here’s a good roundup of the current bills – most Dem plans subsidize at 300-400% of poverty level.

  67. #67
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 pm, chapoutier said:

    Sorry to be unclear, chap – subsidizes them.

    Subsidizes? Or provides a tax credit for the purchase?

  68. #68
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I get the fact that Chappy wants to dissemble on these issues. But the simple fact is that original post only indicated how a family might save over $700 a year to use toward health insurance.

    Nowhere in the post did the commentator indicate that single adjustment was sufficient in and of itself to cover the cost of health care insurance. Yet Chappy dissembled and argued against a point the original post did not make.

    Cut your cable TV. Turn down the thermostat on your AC or heat. Stop eating out as much as you do now. Stop spending money on luxury items and the many people without health insurance may indeed find they can save enough money to cover some form of health insurance if they want to. That was obviously the point of the original post.

    Chappy likes to set up straw man arguments and then pretend that he is not doing so. He is a left-wing, ambulance chaser of the first order. Don’t fall for his dissembling.

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 2:31 pm, vsatt said:

    Sorry WarEagle (and you don’t know how it pains me to disagree with anyone who goes by that screenname) but I’m with Chap on this one (that was a little painful too). I’m not seeing where saving $65 a month pays for someone’s health plan. It would cover my family’s dental premium but our medical is still another $500 a month and that’s from my husband’s employer — a large, national department-store chain. When we were self-employed, comparable insurance was a couple hundred a month higher.

  69. #69
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm, chapoutier said:

    Respectfully, WarEagle, I disagree.

    The original poster mentioned no other source of possible savings. The poster made no other mention of any other sources of savings being necessary. That is you projecting something on the post that was never there.

    Were we to accept your interpretation, one could just as validly post:

    The average person chews $1.45 worth of bubble gum a month.

    12 x $1.45 = $5.40 a year.

    Go buy a health plan instead.

    But that sort of post would be, rightfully, mocked.

    Thank you for carefully explaining your point of view. I hope that my example served to explain why I believe your interpretation of the post is flawed.

    Regards,

    chapoutier

  70. #70
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm, chapoutier said:

    12 x $1.45 = $5.40 a year.

    Pardon me. Of course I meant $17.40. But I am sure we would both agree the point still stands.

  71. #71
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm, long_haired_conservative said:

    I know it’s a small, petty thing, but something that makes a big impression with me. When all this trouble and effort and expense is made to produce such a serious video, why wouldn’t they be more careful about their spelling in the credits at the end? I dunno, it just makes me think they’re not as competent as they’d like us to believe.

  72. #72
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    No, Chappy, the fact that no other specific spending reductions were mentioned in the original post is irrelevant. The one cost saving measure was insufficient for the annual premium was obvious.

    Yet it was equally obvious that the one cost saving measure was sufficient for 2 months of the average premium you quoted earlier. One cut, 1/6th of the annual premium accounted for. Obvious, except to you.

    We don’t need to screw up the entire health care system for hundreds of millions of Americans because a very small percentage won’t buy health insurance even when they could.

    You are a dissembling leftist. Go chase a parked ambulance and you might have a chance of catching it.

  73. #73
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm, chapoutier said:

    No, Chappy, the fact that no other specific spending reductions were mentioned in the original post is irrelevant. The one cost saving measure was insufficient for the annual premium was obvious.

    I do not think it is too much of a stretch that someone may not know the true cost of life insurance. At best, you are making excuses for someone’s sloppy posting. I would hate to think you were doing that simply because I personally took issue with it.

    But in any case, I think I may have discovered a new revenue raiser. We’ll just impose a $1 per use tax on WarEagle’s use of the word “dissemble.” We’ll have deficit trimmed in no time.

  74. #74
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:43 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Like I have said several other times. Read the original post and Chappy’s response. It is obvious Chappy is setting up his usual straw man argument.

    I am excusing nothing, especially your obvious attempts to lie and distort the truth. But, you are a left-wing, ambulance chasing lawyer. What else are we to expect from you…

  75. #75
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:46 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah is Obama taxing font sizes now?

  76. #76
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm, chapoutier said:

    Like I have said several other times. Read the original post and Chappy’s response. It is obvious Chappy is setting up his usual straw man argument.

    My friend,

    I am merely reacting to the words actually written. If there was some unwritten subtext that you read into it, that is well and good. But please, good sir. Do not assume to know the true intentions of my post.

    But no doubt others grow weary of our amusing little tete-a-tete. We shall simply have to agree to disagree. I do appreciate you explaining your perspective.

  77. #77
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm, purealchemy said:

    Chaps, seems like you are taking a beating here.

    I’d like to think the change in font size means WordPress is getting closer to fixing everything else that is screwed up.

  78. #78
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm, beachmom said:

    Maybe Ferrell can take some of the $67 million he earned for those stupid movies and pay for some poor people to have insurance.

    This was a lame, poor attempt at sarcasm.
    They must have written it themselves.

  79. #79
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm, purealchemy said:

    That Elf movie was really lame.

  80. #80
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm, chapoutier said:

    Chaps, seems like you are taking a beating here.

    Not so. Just having a nice conversation with WarEagle. I have my opinion and he certainly has his. But such is the nature of discourse, no?

    I’d like to think the change in font size means WordPress is getting closer to fixing everything else that is screwed up.

    You have to accept it’s gone, purealchemy. It’s gone and never coming back. And you are going to have to move on. That is the only way the healing can begin. Maybe someday, you will learn to love another thread again.

  81. #81
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Chappy, I will always know the true intention of your posts. You are here to advance a statist/leftist agenda that deprives Americans of our God-given rights and changes us from self-governing citizens into serfs ruled over by some self-proclaimed and self-serving elite.

    I think most of us here understand your intentions.

  82. #82
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm, chapoutier said:

    Chappy, I will always know the true intention of your posts. You are here to advance a statist/leftist agenda that deprives Americans of our God-given rights and changes us from self-governing citizens into serfs ruled over by some self-proclaimed and self-serving elite.

    My oh my! And here I was thinking this was simply an amusing way to while the hours away! And maybe learn a thing or two and meet some interesting people in the process.

    I’m off to dinner.

    Toodles, WE82!

  83. #83
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm, purealchemy said:

    Let’s not get condescending,

  84. #84
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Another straw man argument from Chappy.

    You are supposed to deny everything, blame Bush and then excuse yourself. I guess your teleprompter is broken. Careful about going off-script or Rahm will give you the evil eye!

    Now go and drink your dinner and stagger off to your favorite alley in DuPont Circle to sleep it off…

  85. #85
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:17 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Is that just the font size or is chap going to eat noodles?

  86. #86
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:18 pm, purealchemy said:

    Coward! heh

  87. #87
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 pm, purealchemy said:

    I’m sure he would never eat generic noodles.

  88. #88
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    My main concern is that Chap is the kind of guy who once in power will willingly give those who disagree with him “The Noodle.” Or as they call it in the PRC, “Acute Lead Poisoning.”

  89. #89
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:34 pm, happy2behere said:

    Who’s gonna take advice on chosing a healthcare plan from the guy who played an elf? Is Rudolf in the video too? I know, Obama must be Santa Claus.

  90. #90
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm, happy2behere said:

    War Eagle, lighten up.

  91. #91
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:05 pm, deepdriller said:

    My lovely wife just made the observation that the people pushing this mess are all wealthy enough to go out and purchase whatever medical procedure they could possibly want, insurance or not.

  92. #92
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:13 pm, purealchemy said:

    You have to accept it’s gone, purealchemy. It’s gone and never coming back. And you are going to have to move on. That is the only way the healing can begin. Maybe someday, you will learn to love another thread again

    Chaps, Do I detect a veiled, sparkly reference there?
    Is your Napoleonic complex flaring up again?

  93. #93
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:26 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I have lived in the former Soviet Union. I have been treated in Russian “state owned” hospitals. I have seen the ugly work of Communism and Islam first-hand.

    I have stood on the grounds of KZ-Gedenkstätte near Munich.

    I have had nearly a dozen friends murdered by Islamic or communist terrorists. I will not see it happen here.

    You lighten up, buddy.

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm, happy2behere said:

    War Eagle, lighten up.

  94. #94
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 pm, purealchemy said:

    War Eagle, I believe you!

    I don’t appreciate anyone telling you to lighten up and I don’t appreciate anyone telling me something’s never coming back.

  95. #95
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:41 pm, chapoutier said:

    My main concern is that Chap is the kind of guy who once in power will willingly give those who disagree with him “The Noodle.” Or as they call it in the PRC, “Acute Lead Poisoning.”

    I thought us libs were too pantywaist to use guns. At least be consistent in your smears, WE.

    I have lived in the former Soviet Union. I have been treated in Russian “state owned” hospitals. I have seen the ugly work of Communism and Islam first-hand.

    I have stood on the grounds of KZ-Gedenkstätte near Munich.

    I have had nearly a dozen friends murdered by Islamic or communist terrorists.

    Pssst…None of that makes you any less insufferable.

    Sidenote:

    If anyone ever finds themselves in Silver Spring, MD, there is a steakhouse called “Ray’s the Classics.” I just came from there and had a ridiculously good meal. If you sit in the bar area, you can get the Petit Bistro Special. That means your choice of about 6 different soups or salads (I had the crab bisque which was loaded with crab), a 10oz top cut sirloin with grilled onion and mushroom, a huge portion of mashed potatoes and creamed spinach, and your choice of any dessert (I had a very generous portion of the house-made key lime pie). For less than $19 dollars. Their wine list is really good and well thought out as well. They had probably 30 different wines by the glass for between $7-11 dollars.

    WE82, you are in NoVa, right? You should come up and we could “hug it out” over a nice steak and glass of Malbec.

  96. #96
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm, chapoutier said:

    I’m sure he would never eat generic noodles.

    I heart noodles! Just some butter and parsley’s all ya need!

    Chaps, Do I detect a veiled, sparkly reference there?

    Huh?

  97. #97
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Once again, Chappy goes for the straw man argument. I have never speculated on Chappy’s willingness to use firearms. In fact, leftist atheists have demonstrated throughout the 20th century a remarkable willingness to take guns away from law abiding citizens to use against them.

    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:41 pm, chapoutier said:

    I thought us libs were too pantywaist to use guns. At least be consistent in your smears, WE.

    Talk about insufferable? You would probably try to stick me with the bill. I’ll keep my money and spend it here in the Commonwealth of Virginia and not in the Peoples Republic of Maryland.

    You are going to have to find someone else to mooch off of…

    Pssst…None of that makes you any less insufferable.

  98. #98
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm, chapoutier said:

    have never speculated on Chappy’s willingness to use firearms.

    Except for the time you said I would be willing to give someone “acute lead poisoning.” And then the time in the very next sentence that you claim liberal atheists like to use guns against people. But other than those two times, you are right. Or maybe I missed some of that unspoken subtext you seem so fond of.

    You would probably try to stick me with the bill.

    I am a gracious host. I’ll pay so long as you don’t order your steak medium well or well done.

  99. #99
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 8:17 pm, RTater said:

    Here’s a simple solution – a 5,000% tax on movie tickets.

  100. #100
    On September 22nd, 2009 at 8:24 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I don’t claim panty waisted lib atheists like to use guns against people. Your heroes like Stalin, Mao, Che, Fidel, Big & Lil Kim, et. al have proven it time and time again throughout the last 100 years.

    I may have said panty waisted libs love to take them away from other citizens and use them against them. There is a bit of a difference there. There is that darned straw man you are so fond of. You must be the Wizard of Oz or something. Or is it the Lion…

    I am sure you are about as gracious as Obama as he spends taxpayer money to buy his ridiculously expensive steaks at White House parties…

    And I NEVER order a steak past medium unless it is for my kids…

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