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1. #1
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm, b-cat said:

   Deception and fraud are hallmarks of the Great Left Way. They like to pass laws that the people don’t understand until its too late. Then of course, they lay the blame on the GOP.

2. #2
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

   Reality! What a concept?!

3. #3
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm, willie peter said:

   The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others

4. #4
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

   “Let’s be honest about it, most people don’t read the legislative language,” Sen. John Kerry said.

   Let’s be honest about it, you suck!

5. #5
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm, MBuck said:

   “You don’t need that republic. Here, let us take care of that for you. No, really, you wouldn’t know what to do with it anyway.”

6. #6
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm, J S Ragman said:

   “Let’s be honest about it, most people don’t read the legislative language aren’t smart enough to avoid ending up in Iraq, so they need us superior beings to tell them what to do anyway,” Sen. John Kerry said.

7. #7
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm, mattm said:

   Wow. They are not even pretendign to care about campaign promises amymore.

8. #8
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm, Sanddog said:

   Brilliant idea. Let’s pass vague legislation and then work out the details later.

9. #9
   On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:01 pm, Truesoldier said:

   “Let’s be honest about it, most people don’t read the legislative language,” Sen. John Kerry said.

   He must be refering to members of Congress as the town hall meetings proved that the average American knew more about what was in the bill than their representatives.

10. #10
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:01 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Democrats argued that waiting for the legislative languange to be written, and for the CBO to evaluate it, would needlessly delay the process by weeks.

    Translation: Let’s pass this before the CBO can tell the American Taxpayer what this monstrosity will actually cost.

11. #11
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm, letget said:

    I guess they don’t want to put the bill up so American’s can read it because of all the ‘pork’ in it. Afterall, we ‘children’ can’t read all that legal stuff!
    L

12. #12
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Someone (Fox news, are you listening?) needs to confront each and every one of those who voted to obscure the details and make them explain themselves to their constituents. Then they can start packing their offices.

13. #13
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm, tre said:

    “Let’s be honest about it, most people don’t read the legislative language,” Sen. John Kerry said.

    We know they sure don’t. But, they pass it anyway.

14. #14
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:15 pm, Wyatt Earp said:

    Wow, honesty gets thrown under the bus. I would hate to be the guy who has to pick up all of The Zero’s roadkill. It could take months.

15. #15
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Conceptual Language = Ruling Party’s Talking Points

    Oh ya, I feel real good about that approach.

    /sarc

16. #16
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm, Southpaw said:

    “conceptual language”….I have some conceptual language for the United States Senate, but being in polite company, I shall refrain.

17. #17
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    The elites’ ways are above our ways – their thoughts over ours. Why should the masters bother to provide rationale and details to the slaves? We should just do what they say, and everything will be fine ….THEY WISH!!! They’re going to find out soon enough that the tables will be turned. Pride goes before the fall.

18. #18
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    My my, they lied to us. Can we get ManBearPig to scream about it:
    HE WHO HAS COME LIED TO US, HE WHO HAS COME PLAYED ON OUR FEARS! Scream ManBearPig, America needs you. Scream laddie, scream.

    The Senate majority’s contempt for the American people means this must be Wednesday.

19. #19
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm, battleaxe said:

    “Let’s be honest about it, I can’t be bothered to do my oath-bound duty to this country, I have a re-election campaign to think about,” Sen. John Kerry said.

20. #20
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm, 24Klady said:

    If the Repubs haven’t woke up yet that they absolutely must vote NO against anything/everything proposed by this criminal outfit I certainly don’t know what it’ll take. Every other bill they cut and paste together from wish lists 40 years old will be the same. Packed full of constitutional busting laws and programs that will only benefit a few, but require the funding by all.

    Repubs – if you want another single vote from your base I’d suggest you let the Dems own every single bill from here on out. If you can’t stand up and defend conservatives, why do we need you? The results would be the same even if you weren’t there. We don’t need/want Dem light.

21. #21
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pm, Regulus said:

    What’s not to understand in the donks’ reluctance here? After all, it’s pretty hard to cold-cock someone when you have to telegraph your intention three days out.

22. #22
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm, maisy said:

    They don’t write the bills
    And they don’t read the bills…
    So why are they collecting a paycheck???

23. #23
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:07 pm, right_on said:

    Democrats accepted an alternate amendment to make conceptual language available online before a vote.

    Here’s a concept…

    No one who has a history of far-left ideology, or who espouses anything other than strict constitutional governance will be allowed to serve in any public office, nor shall be allowed to be appointed to any position by any elected official.

    Vote them all out! This air of superiority, and “I know best” attitude by elected public servants , cannot, and must not be permitted to continue. November 2010 is a year away, but it cannot come soon enough for me!

24. #24
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm, maisy said:

    They don’t write the bills
    And they don’t read the bills…
    So why are they collecting a paycheck???

    very good point….2010/2012 refresh the entire bunch and do it every single election cycle….and place big signs at all congressional doors:

    Rule 1: no lobbyists/no special interest groups beyond this point

    Rule 2: refer to Rule 1 failure to comply will result in a life sentence.

25. #25
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm, spaceycakes said:

    What do you expect from Kerry?!

    He wouldn’t even ask TeRAYza how she was able to hide that pineapple under her skirt…

26. #26
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm, prendad said:

    CYA wins again! The democratic congressional creed: “We will pass no partisan legislation before we have a chance to sneak what we want into it in the wee hours of the morning and prevent anyone from seeing what we are doing until it is too late to change and we end up getting whatever we want”.

27. #27
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm, Little Ma said:

    2010 will come too late.

28. #28
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    More clear evidence that Democrats want to conceal what they do from American citizen until after it’s too late to object to it. Their claims of the amendment being a delay tactic is utter bull####.

    Even if waiting for legislative language AND a CBO cost estimate set a vote back by a few weeks, so friggin’ what? This is a big deal and Americans need to know what the hell these brainless fools are doing and what it’s going to cost. What’s a few more weeks?

    Their real motive is to get a vote done before anyone can see what the bill really says or really costs.

    Irresponsible, slimy pieces of filth.

29. #29
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:45 pm, happyscrapper said:

    The dems can get anything passed that they want, without republican votes. I pray that every single republican will boycott ANY bills in this administration. Let the dems own it ALL. If they force their treason on this country, let them OWN it!!

30. #30
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm, redbug70 said:

    Who do we think we are? We have no business asking questions or wanting more information on the health care bill. Our leaders know what is best for us.

31. #31
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm, vcallaway said:

    Let me see if I get this right.

    They want to vote on a bill that is not really a bill but an idea. Someone else down the road is going to actually write the law AFTER they vote for it?

32. #32
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    Is it just me, or is it almost surreal to see a senior member of Congress openly scoff at the concept of reading legislaton before voting on it.

    And we re-elect these clowns 92% of the time.

33. #33
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    With all due respect (which isn’t much), this was a promise Obama made during the campaign.

    It was a good idea, but even if Obama meant to deliver, it seems his own party wants to keep it from happening.

    Do you think we’ll hear from Obama on the matter?

    I’m not holding my breath.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

34. #34
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:21 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Is it just me, or is it almost surreal to see a senior member of Congress openly scoff at the concept of reading legislaton before voting on it.

    Nope. It’s not just you.

    And not only do they scoff at the concept of THEIR reading the legislation, they also scoff at the idea of YOUR reading it as well.

    I can’t remember the last time I voted for an incumbent legislator. They’re not getting re-elected on MY vote (Andrews, Lautenberg, and Menendez take note).

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

35. #35
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    2010 will come too late.

    Possibly not.

    This whole Obamacare thing has opened a can of worms so rank in its flavor that the people may force its repeal in 2011 after forcing these clowns out of office.

    Even the “nuclear option” will have its drawbacks for the incumbents.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

36. #36
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Are there restrictions preventing any Senator from posting the documents on-line?

    Yep, it is a good idea to post such things for public viewing. This type of document is akin to posting the letters of the Founders discussing the Constitution. These documents aren’t the final legislation but are more like source information that reveals notional information. Kind of like the Federal Papers.

    Much ado about nothing, unless a Senator voting for this amendment lacks the courage of their convictions and does not post the documents online themselves.

    When there are no restrictions there should be no problem doing what you think is right. And, even there were restrictions, and you believe you are doing the right thing, step up to the plate, grow a pair, and suffer the consequences of what you believe in.

    Ummm, that is of course, unless you are playing politics.

    Bottomline – Put the documents where your votes and mouths are, out in public and online.

37. #37
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm, Roland said:

    Possibly not.

    If the people do not become generally aware the mainstream media has turned itself into a propaganda whore for the anti-American collectivists, i.e. leftwing Democrats and other globalist scum, then nothing can help us. The people will look up briefly, adjust a bit next election, and then go back to sleep, lulled by the bread and circuses and the soothing sounds of more media lies.

38. #38
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm, By Choice said:

    Apparently they DIDN’T hear the 1.8-2million people that were in DC on the 12th. Perhaps it is time to do it again while they are in session and stand on the steps of the House and surround the building and not let them out until they stop this stupidity.

    202-224-3121 if you want to get really frustrated. Call Pelosi and tell her we are coming again……

39. #39
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pm, By Choice said:
    Apparently they DIDN’T hear the 1.8-2million people that were in DC on the 12th.

    MSM said only 60-70 K, and I know they wouldn’t lie.

40. #40
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:53 pm, MBuck said:

    vcallaway said:
    Let me see if I get this right.

    They want to vote on a bill that is not really a bill but an idea. Someone else down the road is going to actually write the law AFTER they vote for it?

    Vhat do you mean Dere iss no bill to sign, Comrade? Sign it ANYvay. NOW, Comrade. Da. Much better.

41. #41
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    the Fringe Media lies just as much if not more than dear leader and congress…

42. #42
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 4:02 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Even the “nuclear option” will have its drawbacks for the incumbents.

    If the Senate goes with the “nuclear option” all who vote “Yea” will expose themselves to 10,000 RADS of political radioactivity.

    There is a part of me that hopes that they do.

43. #43
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 4:32 pm, Freddy said:

    “Let’s be honest about it, most people don’t read the legislative language,” Sen. John Kerry said.

    I hope this little gem is available on audio and video for the 2010 election campaigns.

44. #44
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm, James Otis said:

    The Democrats noted that unlike other committees, the Finance Committee works off conceptual language that describes policies — instead of legislative language that ultimately becomes law, and which the GOP amendment would have required.

    Democrats accepted an alternate amendment to make conceptual language available online before a vote.

    Get it? The Dems are willing to put out conceptual explanations of the bill’s conceptual language. Can they be more insulting? Duh.

45. #45
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm, cabrerski said:

    I was chatting with a liberal neighbor of mine (good guy). We were discussing this very thing and I asked him what was so important about passing a final draft of a bill in less than 72 hours after it was presented when the bill would not come into effect until 2013? He agreed that this was fairly close to insane.

    See, we can get the decent people (regardless of political stripe) in the country to view good selected arguments and concerns. It is too hard to defeat logic, so select your arguments well.

46. #46
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm, xler8bmw said:

    demcrats gone in 2010 in 3….2…..1…

47. #47
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm, cicerokid said:

    what was so important about passing a final draft of a bill in less than 72 hours after it was presented when the bill would not come into effect until 2013?

    Because glade air-freshner (AKA obamabreath) will only keep this turd smelling fresh for that long, that’s why cabrerski.

48. #48
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm, maisy said:

    Let’s face it Senator Kerry, you don’t know how to read……

49. #49
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 pm, realitycheck said:

    At what point in the history of our country, did the concept of the government serving the people become the people serving the government.

    On so many levels, the will of the majority is being ignored, in favor of the agenda of the few.

50. #50
    On September 24th, 2009 at 12:15 pm, Dimsdale said:

    #
    On September 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    (snip)

    Bottomline – Put the documents where your votes and mouths are, out in public and online.

    They prefer to keep it away from the rabble in a deep dark place out of sight of reason and logic.

    Probably the same place they have their heads…

51. #51
    On September 25th, 2009 at 8:04 am, BOB said:

    My useless Senator, Blanche Lincoln, has apparently been given permission to go into her “one year till election” mode and vote like her constituents want.

    Happens every election…and, sadly, works every time.