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requiring proof of citizenship

Let’s hope that doesn’t simply mean producing a SS card/number.

Ridiculous circle jerk.

Either you desire to play on the the word ‘valid’ or you are very, very naive.

Fair point, which is probably why

[Update, Sept. 12] White House offocials told reporters late on Sept 11 that the president now favors requiring proof of citizenship before someone could purchase insurance through the exchange.

They’re adding an additional screen to filter out undocumented aliens. I doubt all 12 million people in the country illegally have fake SSNs, but surely some do. Regardless, subsidizing their insurance it’s still a lot cheaper than paying for them to utilize emergency services as we do right now.

I told you so.

Want to debate abortions will be a part of the bill? I will take the “yes” and you take the “no”.

in order to have a valid SSN, you must be in the country legally.

Either you desire to play on the the word ‘valid’ or you are very, very naive.

it’s unfair to bar illegal immigrants from paying their own way in a government-sponsored exchange

For starters, a correction: “Paying their own way” and “government-sponsored exchange” are mutually exclusive. Either you “pay your own way” or the “government sponsors” you with tax subsidies. And in order to receive tax subsidies, you must have a valid SSN; in order to have a valid SSN, you must be in the country legally. So by design, no one in the country illegally will be able to reap the benefits of a government-sponsored exchange.

This is about whether anyone will be able to purchase government-issued insurance (‘the public option,’ which will be self-sustaining and not funded by taxpayer dollars; government assistance is a separate program altogether) if they want to. This is no different than the way things work right now on the private market: you do not need to prove citizenship in order to purchase coverage. More to the point, by barring illegal aliens from purchasing insurance, you all but guarantee any medical costs they incur while in our country will be paid for by the taxpayers.

You see, in 1986 Reagan signed EMTALA into law, which states that any person on US soil, regardless of citizenship or ability to pay, has a right to emergency medical care and cannot be turned away if they seek it (this is what is crippling border hospitals by the way, so remember to thank Reagan for that in your prayers tonight). Hospitals are reimbursed for those who are not covered through federal grants, and this includes people in the country illegally. So… if illegal aliens purchase the public option, they pay for their own medical costs. No insurance? The status quo holds (bless you, St. Reagan!) and your tax dollars pay for it.

1) My son, a Border Patrol Agent, works daily in an effort to secure our borders and protect the American people from drug smugglers and other violent people, too include mere low-life “illegals,” as many fight rather than give up when captured.

2) If said low-life gets away, either by deception or by murdering a Border Patrol Agent, that illegal gets a free pass to American health care.

Sheesh. . .the rats really are insane and are not looking out for the interests of the American people. Their allegiance is to illegals and criminals.