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		<title>By: PianoTrade</title>
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		<dc:creator>PianoTrade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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[...] Good piano performance. Thanks heaps for this!... if anyone else has anything it would be much appreciated. Great website http://www.en.Grand-Pianos.org Enjoy!...</description>
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<p>[...] Good piano performance. Thanks heaps for this!&#8230; if anyone else has anything it would be much appreciated. Great website <a href="http://www.en.Grand-Pianos.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.en.Grand-Pianos.org</a> Enjoy!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;in my humble opinion, i believe our teachers should have to take a proficiency test before they can become teachers. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I really think it is wrong to blame the teachers.... watch that video of those thug kids in Chicago killing that boy... THOSE are the &quot;students&quot; that are sitting in classrooms around this country... How would YOU like to be trying to control a classroom full of those a-holes and illegal aliens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>in my humble opinion, i believe our teachers should have to take a proficiency test before they can become teachers. </p></blockquote>
<p>I really think it is wrong to blame the teachers&#8230;. watch that video of those thug kids in Chicago killing that boy&#8230; THOSE are the &#8220;students&#8221; that are sitting in classrooms around this country&#8230; How would YOU like to be trying to control a classroom full of those a-holes and illegal aliens?</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingrocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingrocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;in my humble opinion, i believe our teachers should have to take a proficiency test before they can become teachers. &lt;/blockquote&gt;They already do.

It&#039;s called the Praxis, and most states use it.  Some older teachers may know it by its previous name, the NTE.

RWR
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>in my humble opinion, i believe our teachers should have to take a proficiency test before they can become teachers. </p></blockquote>
<p>They already do.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called the Praxis, and most states use it.  Some older teachers may know it by its previous name, the NTE.</p>
<p>RWR<br />
<a href="http://www.rightwingrocker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rightwingrocker.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: DavidHughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidHughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve taken those tests in three states (Indiana, Illinois, and Texas), and passed all three without a problem. When I went for the two most recent (TX and IL) there were people in line who were there for their 4th or 5th time, attempting to pass. Unbelievable! These folks will eventually end up &quot;teaching&quot; your kids. 

About 15 years ago, a union steward asked me to break down my hourly pay for bargaining. It came out to something like $6.25/hr. I work all summer, most weekends, and at least three nights a week, though, until 9:00pm. The same can&#039;t be said of a lot of my colleagues. Such is the life of a band director, I guess. But according to them (the other staff members), all I do is wave my arms for a living. Never mind the fact that I have had class sizes as large as 300 (in the room at the same time), have to teach the kids from the bottom, up, and have a side job similar to being an athletic director (scheduling, etc), have to teach theory classes, get extra duties they don&#039;t want dumped on them, and so on. I have never really complained about it, because I love my job, and have always loved the kids under my instruction. Seventeen years later I probably make about $15-20 an hour, but I&#039;d still rather do this than other jobs I&#039;ve had (machine operator, truck driver, factory worker, etc). Seems like it means a lot more when I see the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken those tests in three states (Indiana, Illinois, and Texas), and passed all three without a problem. When I went for the two most recent (TX and IL) there were people in line who were there for their 4th or 5th time, attempting to pass. Unbelievable! These folks will eventually end up &#8220;teaching&#8221; your kids. </p>
<p>About 15 years ago, a union steward asked me to break down my hourly pay for bargaining. It came out to something like $6.25/hr. I work all summer, most weekends, and at least three nights a week, though, until 9:00pm. The same can&#8217;t be said of a lot of my colleagues. Such is the life of a band director, I guess. But according to them (the other staff members), all I do is wave my arms for a living. Never mind the fact that I have had class sizes as large as 300 (in the room at the same time), have to teach the kids from the bottom, up, and have a side job similar to being an athletic director (scheduling, etc), have to teach theory classes, get extra duties they don&#8217;t want dumped on them, and so on. I have never really complained about it, because I love my job, and have always loved the kids under my instruction. Seventeen years later I probably make about $15-20 an hour, but I&#8217;d still rather do this than other jobs I&#8217;ve had (machine operator, truck driver, factory worker, etc). Seems like it means a lot more when I see the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Films</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Films</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sunshinerbray</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshinerbray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teachers do have to take proficiency tests.  In Texas, where I work, it&#039;s called the TExES test.  We have to take two of them, one in the content area, and one on pedagogy.  Once you&#039;re certified, you have to renew certification every 5 years.  In order to renew, you have to have 30 continuing education hours each year for a total of 150.

You can go to http://www.texes.ets.org/ for information on testing in the state of Texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teachers do have to take proficiency tests.  In Texas, where I work, it&#8217;s called the TExES test.  We have to take two of them, one in the content area, and one on pedagogy.  Once you&#8217;re certified, you have to renew certification every 5 years.  In order to renew, you have to have 30 continuing education hours each year for a total of 150.</p>
<p>You can go to <a href="http://www.texes.ets.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.texes.ets.org/</a> for information on testing in the state of Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: cheapseat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in my humble opinion, i believe our teachers should have to take a proficiency test before they can become teachers.  how about an sat test that already exists, and they must score average or above, meaning at least 1000 on the sat.  after all, the average high school senior scores that, so shouldn&#039;t their teacher know at least as much as them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my humble opinion, i believe our teachers should have to take a proficiency test before they can become teachers.  how about an sat test that already exists, and they must score average or above, meaning at least 1000 on the sat.  after all, the average high school senior scores that, so shouldn&#8217;t their teacher know at least as much as them?</p>
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		<title>By: RobM1981</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some links that indicate our kids spend less time in the classroom:

http://www.factmonster.com/spot/schoolyear1.html

http://www.seanpaune.com/2009/09/27/obama-school-hours/

What&#039;s fun is if you really dig a bit deeper.  Compare how Germans educate their children with Americans.  This is fascinating:

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/klein.356/school_hierarchy

Teachers get paid more, because teachers do more - and there is FAR less &quot;administrative&quot; BS to drain valuable $&#039;s away from the kids.

Plus, as said here, a lot less non-essential stuff is taught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some links that indicate our kids spend less time in the classroom:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.factmonster.com/spot/schoolyear1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.factmonster.com/spot/schoolyear1.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.seanpaune.com/2009/09/27/obama-school-hours/" rel="nofollow">http://www.seanpaune.com/2009/09/27/obama-school-hours/</a></p>
<p>What&#8217;s fun is if you really dig a bit deeper.  Compare how Germans educate their children with Americans.  This is fascinating:</p>
<p><a href="http://sitemaker.umich.edu/klein.356/school_hierarchy" rel="nofollow">http://sitemaker.umich.edu/klein.356/school_hierarchy</a></p>
<p>Teachers get paid more, because teachers do more &#8211; and there is FAR less &#8220;administrative&#8221; BS to drain valuable $&#8217;s away from the kids.</p>
<p>Plus, as said here, a lot less non-essential stuff is taught.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingrocker</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/28/obama-plays-summer-school-czar/comment-page-1/#comment-813652</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingrocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I just did the math, and I make about $21 an hour, hardly excessive for someone with a college degree.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You must be some sort of racist for saying this.

RWR
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I just did the math, and I make about $21 an hour, hardly excessive for someone with a college degree.</p></blockquote>
<p>You must be some sort of racist for saying this.</p>
<p>RWR<br />
<a href="http://www.rightwingrocker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rightwingrocker.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: sunshinerbray</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshinerbray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Our teachers are already paid the same salaries that people who work 2,000/hours a year are paid. Let’s see them actually work those hours…&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Actually, teachers are paid on a 10 month scale, it&#039;s just divided into 12 months so we get a check during the summer, too.  I usually work about a 50-hour week, not counting the homebound student I teach, the extra-curricular programs I sponsor, or the additional duties, like chaperoning dances, that are a required part of the job.  I just did the math, and I make about $21 an hour, hardly excessive for someone with a college degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Our teachers are already paid the same salaries that people who work 2,000/hours a year are paid. Let’s see them actually work those hours…</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, teachers are paid on a 10 month scale, it&#8217;s just divided into 12 months so we get a check during the summer, too.  I usually work about a 50-hour week, not counting the homebound student I teach, the extra-curricular programs I sponsor, or the additional duties, like chaperoning dances, that are a required part of the job.  I just did the math, and I make about $21 an hour, hardly excessive for someone with a college degree.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingrocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingrocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Both parties are essentially the same.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Which is why I support neither.

RWR
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Both parties are essentially the same.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is why I support neither.</p>
<p>RWR<br />
<a href="http://www.rightwingrocker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rightwingrocker.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: dan708</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan708</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we could be assured that the extra classroom time was spent on EDUCATION, I could get behind this idea. But too much time is spent on Democratic indoctrination for me to ever trust Obama&#039;s true intentions.

Mmm, mmm, mmm!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we could be assured that the extra classroom time was spent on EDUCATION, I could get behind this idea. But too much time is spent on Democratic indoctrination for me to ever trust Obama&#8217;s true intentions.</p>
<p>Mmm, mmm, mmm!</p>
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		<title>By: prendad</title>
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		<dc:creator>prendad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. President:
     Good morning and I am sure you are having a wonderful day in the white house or in air force one flying all over to grace the world with your diatribe.  But, here in MY world, those of us who have to live with your government&#039;s stupid actions would like you to stay out of the schools and stop trying to influence the education system.  Thank yo soooo much.  Or, in other words:
HEY STUPID, KEEP YOUR GRABBY HANDS OFF OF MY KIDS. I, REPEAT I, WILL EDUCATE THEM AS I, REPEAT I, SEE FIT.  GET IT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. President:<br />
     Good morning and I am sure you are having a wonderful day in the white house or in air force one flying all over to grace the world with your diatribe.  But, here in MY world, those of us who have to live with your government&#8217;s stupid actions would like you to stay out of the schools and stop trying to influence the education system.  Thank yo soooo much.  Or, in other words:<br />
HEY STUPID, KEEP YOUR GRABBY HANDS OFF OF MY KIDS. I, REPEAT I, WILL EDUCATE THEM AS I, REPEAT I, SEE FIT.  GET IT?</p>
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		<title>By: 7thson</title>
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		<dc:creator>7thson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Patronedheart said: 
The average of public school teacher’s salary is $51,009. If you divide that over a year at 9 hours a day, 9 months a year (2430 hours), you get an hourly rate of $21.00 an hour.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
PH, 39 weeks @ 45 hours per week = 1,755, not 2,430, which = $29.06/hr.  Deduct another month for &lt;strike&gt;Chistmas &amp; Easter&lt;/strike&gt;, I mean Winter &amp; Spring breaks and the rate is $32.70.  Oh yeah, then there&#039;s MLK day, President&#039;s day, Earth day...what a racket!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Patronedheart said:<br />
The average of public school teacher’s salary is $51,009. If you divide that over a year at 9 hours a day, 9 months a year (2430 hours), you get an hourly rate of $21.00 an hour.</p></blockquote>
<p>PH, 39 weeks @ 45 hours per week = 1,755, not 2,430, which = $29.06/hr.  Deduct another month for <strike>Chistmas &amp; Easter</strike>, I mean Winter &amp; Spring breaks and the rate is $32.70.  Oh yeah, then there&#8217;s MLK day, President&#8217;s day, Earth day&#8230;what a racket!</p>
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		<title>By: LiMa</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiMa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s going to have a mob of sugar crazed kids chasing him down with their pencil sharpeners. He needs to keep his opinion to himself. I doubt his daughters would agree.  Homeschool rules!! We teach all year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s going to have a mob of sugar crazed kids chasing him down with their pencil sharpeners. He needs to keep his opinion to himself. I doubt his daughters would agree.  Homeschool rules!! We teach all year.</p>
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