Public option goes down…for now
Down, but not out:
A key Senate panel on Tuesday voted against creating a new government health insurance plan to compete with the private market.
The 15-to-8 vote in the Senate Finance Committee could forecast the fate of the public option in the Senate as a whole…Five committee Democrats, including Chairman Max Baucus, joined with all 10 committee Republicans to defeat the measure by Democratic Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia.
The panel then began debating amore conservative public option amendment from Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.
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Just like shamnesty. It’ll keep turning up like a bad penny (or $1000 with Obama’s monetary skills)
Need to put a stake in its heart or, like a vampire, it will rise from the grave.
No worry, it’ll find its way back into the consolidated House-Senate bill that’ll go to Hope-a-Dope for signature. You don’t need radar to see this coming from hundreds of miles away.
I’m in favor of always either using mock quotes for “Public Option” or employing the correct term; Government Run Healthcare.
At any rate, it’s still remains in “Kill Bill” status!
They will pass something, good/bad right or wrong. We have one chance, and one only. The elections in 2010 – we need to send all those who voted for the monster back to Podunk, never to be heard from again. 2012 is will be too late!
Start now putting your congresscritters on notice, they must vote NO on any variation or be sent home.
I’ll bet you’re against HEALTHCARE REFORM too. You, you conservative…
MM has this wonderful little button called “Preview” which I keep forgetting to use. After 2012 the word ‘is’ should be sent to the scrapheap.
Looks like O’Reilly may have called it.
Still, the whole point of doing this, from the Donks’ perspective, is to have the public option in place for the purpose of eventually putting private insurers out of business.
Don’t expect this to be the end of the story!
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Now, if we can just get rid of the stupid Akaka Bill…..
this is a public vote, the committee reconciliation process is behind closed doors, and when the house says yes, and the senate says no, reconciliation is a must. don’t get excited these are democrats. they vote publically one way and privately another.
The public option is one part of a bill that is garbage through and through. Don’t let them sidetrack us into believing we won. They are still trying for the public option and they won’t let it go that easily. They want to pass something, anything just to say they got healthcare reform. This bill has to DIE…the whole thing, not just one part. They need to address the important issues first…tort reform, competition across state lines, eliminate waste and fraud in the current system. THEN and only THEN should they be allowed to start on a decent healthcare reform bill. That is a long way off. Geez…no wonder they wanted to cram it down our throats before we had a chance to actually see it! How corrupt and sleazy is that?? These people have no moral values whatsoever, and We the People are getting the shaft.
Would i’twere flip-flopping on votes were solely a Dem politician trait, cheapseat…..
It will keep coming back to get the Hispanic illegal ACORN vote.
I don’t think it took much clairvoyance on the Leprechaun’s part.
It’s down like Jason. But it’ll be back.
Keep up the fight and stay vigilant there’s more to come . . . these leftist Democrats are insidious like a cancer and the’ll keep coming back.
Happyscrapper is right. It all needs to go away. Again.
Then we can get back to fighting off Cap & Trade and Amnesty.
The blue hairs really must get more engaged in this debate since they’re one step away from the coming death panels.
I find it difficult to process the thought that Chuck Schumer can create anything even remotely conservative.
In other words, the committee will change two or three words of Rockefeller’s public option language. The dems have put all their political capital into this monster and now they are stuck between their radical base that funds their campaigns that wants them to pass the public option and the “angry mob” that will vote them out if they do.
It is all relative. Full blown socialism is slightly more conservative than full blown Marxism.
the democratic vote is a ruse, they will not let this piece of pile die without a fight of everything they have and don’t every think other wise. He who does will never see the truth. Remember this is not the democrat party of 40 years ago, these Vultures wait to eat another victim tax payer.
I have one reply to this idea of government health care…Keep Your Hands Off My Health Care!
“For now” being the operative phrase. As soon as they think we are distracted, it will be back, no doubt with a make over but the essence unchanged. These guys are 24/7. We have to be too.
Chucky Shumer vowed to keep fighting. Sounds good. Let’s see what he’s got.
Sea change.
The word Conservative should never be used in refering to the “public option.
Mo’ better.
Schumer Public Option REJECTED 10-13.
Down, for now. Keep the pressure on through 2010, 2012 and beyond. Demand a REPEAL PLATFORM of any Republican/Conservative candidate if/when any of these atrocities becomes law.
Lib heads popping like champagne corks!
“…Lay low, nobody move until I say so
Limo tint rollin’ deep like the President
See, I don’t go to clubs, I never chase a b*tch
I’m here to bang that gangsta sh*t to the Apocalypse…”
Snoop & Dre with Nate Dogg
Yes! Chuck Schumer gave my brain a “pre stress fracture”.
Keep the public debate going to determine just how much of what I earn is the government entitled to confiscate for other people. The Democratic party was, is and always will be the party of slavery.
Definition of Improve:
to make better; “The editor improved the manuscript with his changes”
to make something better.
to increase the value or productivity (of something);
to become better
Definition of Reform:
make changes for improvement in order to remove abuse and injustices; “reform a political system”
bring, lead, or force to abandon a wrong or evil course of life, conduct, and adopt a right one; “The Church reformed me”; “reform your conduct”
a change for the better as a result of correcting abuses; “justice was for sale before the reform of the law courts”
improve by alteration or correction of errors or defects and put into a better condition; “reform the health system in this country”
a campaign aimed to correct abuses or malpractices; “the reforms he proposed were too radical for the politicians”
change for the better; “The lazy student promised to reform”; “the habitual cheater finally saw the light”
self-improvement in behavior or morals by abandoning some vice; “the family rejoiced in the drunkard’s reform”
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Why do we keep using the word reform? Per the definitions above reform means to fix abuses & injustices in something inherently bad or evil.
I don’t see the US healthcare system as bad or evil. I think we are really just looking for improvement. The question is whether the improvement is needed in heathcare or healthcare insurance?
Democrats demonize the heathcare and insurance industiries to be able to fundamentally “change” them. I think they just need improvements as noted by some commentators here. Don’t make something evil or bad just because some people want it for free and some politician wants to give out freebies for votes.
Its the politicians that need reform.
GOOD NEWS-they are going to use a duller knife to skin us! Oh wow, I must write home about that-for now.
They’re not trying to sell it as socialism or even full-blown Marxism. They’re selling is as Marxism lite.
Just a sprinkle of socialism, a dash of fascism, fold in “Hope ‘n Change” and, voila’! The end of the free market.
Another problem today, is the mandatory swine flu vaccination. Healthcare workers in NY are “revolting”. In a time of an epidemic/pandemic, requiring vaccines should be mandatory; however, in this case, I don’t see the need. Regular flu shots are not required and that kills 30K plus Americans a year, without a peep from the government. Swine flu hysteria has the politicians seeing an opportunity to profit as well as the MSM.
Kingfish said: “Just like Shamnesty”
First comment out of the box naiked it. These plans are harder to kill than a roach.
“nailed”…..LOL
Were it not for recent protests peoples’ contacting their representatives, HR 3200 would have passed in late July, and we would be well on the way to government run health care.
We must maintain the pressure for at least the next four years and begin to advocate workable alternatives to current proposals. Negativity combined with positive options at least gives a chance for success.
Rules For Radicals works for the right too.
It may not be solely a Dem politician trait, but it most certainly is a LIBERAL politician trait.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
More like “less liberal”.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
I liked it better the other way
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Workable alternatives would never pass the current legislatures.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com