The Boxer-Kerry green boondoggle

Expensive eco-hysterics take to the Senate floor today. Democrat Sens. Barbara Boxer and John Kerry are set to unveil their “climate change” plan this morning.
The Institute for Energy Research has posted the two advance drafts of the bill and provides helpful analysis.
Except, of course, for the parts where Boxer and Kerry have inserted numerous placeholders — a phenomenon we saw in the House version of the cap-and-tax bill:
From these drafts it appears that the Boxer-Kerry bill will dramatically increase regulation, provide new entitlements to politically-connected groups, and give corporate rent-seekers a new source of Federal dollars. As a result of Boxer-Kerry, the American people will be forced to endure higher energy prices and onerous regulation.
Apparently, Senators Boxer and Kerry understand the difficulties they will face in passing a cap-and-trade bill this year. It seems that, in order to create leverage to secure more votes, the drafts do not completely spell out how the carbon dioxide allowances will be allocated. Instead the draft bills contain many placeholders…
…After the first draft bill was leaked, and appeared in a story in Greenwire, an updated draft was leaked. This second draft did not contain as many placeholders as the first, instead it gives the EPA Administrator discretion to allocate many of the allowances. This still gives Senators Boxer and Kerry bargaining power to allocate allowances to politically preferred groups.
But it also raises an important question—if Congress needs to act to limit the damage of EPA regulating carbon dioxide under the Clean Air Act, how is the second Boxer-Kerry draft an improvement over EPA regulation? This is especially important because the Boxer-Kerry draft does not limit EPA authority to regulate greenhouse gases using the Clean Air Act.
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In case you missed Boxer vs. Harry Alford, Round 2, the video is here.
Here’s a round-up of reaction to the “radioactive” Boxer-Kerry proposal.
And via the Green Hell blog, here’s how Boxer’s paying off GE:
Section 821(c) requires that, by December 12, 2012, the EPA set standards for greenhouse gas emissions from “new aircraft and new engines used in new aircraft.”
General Electric is the world’s largest manufacturer of commercial and military jet engines, a business worth about $12 billion in annual revenues.
So the Boxer bill would compel airlines and the military, when purchasing new aircraft and new aircraft engines, to purchase more expensive “green” engines made by GE, according to standards set by the current and GE-lobbied Obama administration.
Keep in mind that GE CEO Jeff Immelt is member of President Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Council.
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I would really like to see someone in Congress (regardless of party) put forth a bill that would make placeholders illegal. For that matter, are placeholders even constitutional?
Kerry: “At first I didn’t know what a Cap an Trade engineer was, now I are one!”
The opposition to this fraud should get lots of airtime on NBC/MSNBC. This is a bigger fraud on the American people than the health care reform. Let me be one of the first to say, “Kill this bill!”
We need to limit the influence of Boxer and Kerry. Isn’t there a couple of old school democrats with enough sanity and smarts to figure out how to oust these two banes of society?
Kerry is a political disaster. Somehow, the people of Massachusetts keep electing him and Barney Fwank. Mind-boggling ignorance up there. And Boxer… you have to just shake your head about her and Pelosi. Who are the people that pull the lever for these idiots?
No, Rogue Cheddar, he said this:
Au début je n’ai pas su ce qu’était un chapeau un ingénieur commercial, maintenant I ai un ans!
This is a bit disingenuous. Pratt & Whitney also makes jet engines, as does Rolls-Royce. Are they saying the engines are costlier because they’re “green”? I kind of doubt that given the amount of engineering that goes into them.
If they’re saying the only reason they’re pushing the bill is so GE will sell more engines, then this is the same kind of incorrect connection people made with Halliburton and the Iraq war.
who says two brain cells can’t be corrupt and moronic at the same time, kerry and boxer are proof that lower life forms can be.
Don’t look now, but it seems as if another climate hockey stick might have had its blade broken. And it’s kinda hard to sell the AGW fraud without hockey sticks.
The wheels of AGW will be broken soon – I just hope it will be in time to stop serious damage.
I hate them. I truly hate them. If I ever was in a room alone with these two idiots…
After a report released that over regulation through California’s personal version of cap and trade killed millions of jobs in the state, caused a significant amount of tax payers to flee and basically bankrupted the state, she of course wants to take it nationally. These people are purposefully trying their best to destroy the economy of this country. They are stopping creation of wealth to ensure that only a small group benefits. Hopefully Boxer is not going to survive, her numbers are not where an incumbent’s should be. I will be happy to say good-bye.
Not all jet engines are created equally. You just write your standards so that only GE engines qualify.
Teresa Heinz Kerry’s face already looks like it’s melting. Global warming will make her look like the Germans in Raiders of the Lost Ark!
Out Cap & Trade. In ‘Pollution Reduction‘ Bill.
John Effing Kerry is a piece of garbage that is stuck to the bottom of my shoe. And to think he might have actually been elected POTUS! Of course, he may have done less damage to our country than Obama. Where are these strange, evil creatures coming from? I can hardly look at that man without getting a serious case of creeping nausea. And remember the great combination of Gore-Edwards?? How would that have worked out for us? Is there no liberal democrat in this world who isn’t tainted by corruption or insanity?? Spit.
You’re right, it’s better in French.
Kerry: “Je pourrais avoir été président ! J’ai été vissé ! Vissé je vous dis !”
Who votes for these jerks, anyway?
txvet2,
I know it can be done, but is it? The article makes no mention of any specificities regarding the engines. All it says is that new emissions requirements will be put in place for any new purchases. GE has to meet those requirements, as do P&W and RR. Without any details this just looks like unjustified speculation.
Thank goodness those two never mated…
I wish they’d hurry. Had to start a fire in the fireplace this morning to keep warm.
“Green” is relative. I’ll bet there are many products that are called “green” but the manufacturers did nothing to change the ingredients or process.
In the 1970s it was “natural.” Anheuser-Busch created Anheuser Busch Natural Lite beer. There was nothing different about their ingredients or process, except for adding a bit more water to their beer and hanging the “natural” tag on it.
“Green” is just the 21st century version of B.S.
Kerry
“Je suis un traître backstabbing, qui a menti au sujet de mes soldats semblables, et ai donné des conseils aux chefs vietnamiens du nord avant les entretiens de paix de Paris. Je n’ai accompli presque rien à dans le sénat, excepté trouver des riches et légèrement mentalement – femme malade être ma sucre-maman.”
“Arrêtez-moi avant que je légifère encore !”
My fingers are so cold I can hardly type. Yes, climate change is once again rearing its ugly head. October. The leaves are falling. Frost warnings here in Minnesota last night. I have taken my dainty plants back into the house for the winter. Darn that climate change!! We need Cap and Tax…NOW!! And don’t you DARE try reading the bill.
These two pukes…Dumb and Dumber.
“Green” engines for the military? Are they Effing joking? I’m no expert but that can’t be a good thing.
On the other hand, it will make our adversaries have to change their “heat” seeking missiles to “green” seeking ones. Might take them quite awhile to catch up, right?
That other hand of mine is always so sarcastic!
Hey, clueless bimbo Boxer: Why don’t you take a trip to where I live in CA today and see how it’s 23 degrees BELOW normal and freeze your butt off?
Someone please tell Boxer before she embaresses herself further that military engines only come in olive drab, not green.
Since the EPA will regulate CO2, the government regulated health care death panels can be pushed into the EPA. “I’m sorry sir, you’ve expelled your life limit of CO2. Please step into the Patriotic Suicide Chamber.”
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Jet engines have gotten a lot “cleaner” throughout the years of improvements.
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30 years ago the first Patriot missile site at White Sands was “attacked” by lots of Air Force and Air Guard aircraft at 8 AM. Another flight did it again in the late afternoon. Some of the planes overflew our site at 100 meter altitude.
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When the aircraft first showed up on the radar I used binoculars to try to spot the planes–they came in as groups of 4 planes. The first ones sighted visually at much closer ranges had greasy smoke trails behind them–they were the F4 Phantoms. The other newer types of planes around the F4′s were not seen easily “head on” since their engines did not put out visible smoke.
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I don’t think the Obama administration needs to worry about pollution from military aircraft engines. When PRE-EMPTIVE SURRENDER is the new defense plan for the U.S.S.A. no steeeenking jets will be needed. Just a sign that says WE QUIT will do.
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John Bibb
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It takes a lot of hubris for someone to to think they can control the weather.
Obama may be able to do it since he is the second coming and is the one but Kerry, Boxer, and Gore?
Thanks for that link. It’ll come in handy the next time one of the GW hysterics fills up my whiteboard (on another website) with his hockeystick blather.
What are Lurch & Morticia doing at the top of this page?
If this pass this crap, I want to see every single person, company and industry to just say- Nope, not going to do it and blow it out your ear Feds.
As Mark Steyn once said,
Interesting that they can control the weather BUT they CANNOT control the border!
Picture your basic 350 pound barnyard sow wearing a pink bikini jumping out of a huge cake.
Used to be the saying “If you don’t like the weather, just wait, it will change.”
Now the saying is, “If you don’t like the weather, just call Gore, Kerry, or Boxer and they will change it for you.”
Why not? Bush did it when he directed Katrina to the black part of New Orleans because, according to the genius Kanye West, he hates black people.
So if you have a political enemy, just conjure up a tornado or two. Watch out Sarah Palin. Kerrys gone rogue.
And then throwing some other hog’s blue ribbon over the fence.
Steve McIntyre has just recently slain the ‘son of hockey stick’.
It turns out that tree ring data used to convince us that the Medieval Warming Period never happened, (or was just some spurious local weather event, etc.), and that the last 20 years has been warming faster than ever before – data the IPCC foisted on the world as being the truth – WAS COMPLETELY CHERRY PICKED
(Here is good a place to start if you want more detail.)
With hundreds of tree ring data sets available they used only about a dozen – the only ones that supported their agenda of climate alarmism. It’s just another example of OUTRAGEOUS
SOCIALISTCOMMIE LIES.You can take this to the bank – AGW IS NOW A DEAD THEORY (Why is anyone still talking about it as though there was ANY hope that it had even a sliver of truth to it?)
Still no ‘hot spot’!
Bangladesh still gaining land at the coast
Arctic sea ice extent rebounding for a third year.
polar bear population has never been better (can’t say the same for polar bear researchers who deny AGW)
Antarctica just keeps getting more ice and snow cover
No net warming of the atmosphere for last 10 years (cooling for the last seven)
No correlation between warming and hurricanes.
CO2 keeps going up and is enriching plant life
Even the IPCC admits sea level rise remains unchanged
They’re creepy and they’re kooky,
Mysterious and spooky,
They’re all together ooky…
I can’t think of a more apt description of the Boxer/Kerry combination…
Watch for this boondoggle to get news positive coverage, while the destruction of Al Gore’s hockey stick is ignored. The fake science will be pointed at, but not the revelations of the fakery.
Please, can’t Kerry keep his “placeholders” at home?
Does his wife have to put new green engines on the red jet?
They’re creepy and they’re kooky,
Mysterious and spooky,
They’re all together ooky…
Because green is important in a life-or-death situation – not performance.
I second that assertion! Of course the answer is money. Just like the Endowment of the Arts, liberals need to find new ways of funneling money to people who can not compete in a capitalist society. Somehow, the masters all managed to produce art unrivalled by modern artists without the NEA. Private sponsors, yes. Tax payers, no.
Don’t look any climate change legislation as legal regulation, look at it for it’s investment potential for those in Congress, and big businesses connected to them who already have their toes in the water.
As with most legislation, it is no longer about actions that protect and enhance the lives of American citizens, but about new opportunities for elected greed to facilitate their own cash flows, and capital positions.
Don’t look at the front end, look at the end game. One has to have money to make money!
Thism should nail the environuts to a plank: This is a huge scandal:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/29/yamal_scandal/
Hey John! Why the long face?
Barbara Boxer and John Kerry should just get a room – in an insane asylum!
Yeah, I’m still laughing at that cocept. Forget thrust to weight ratio…. we want fuel efficiency!!!! LOL
Not to mention that Green Jet Engines is an Oxymoron.
Gee, I didn’t think Boxer would have any time to be involved with green legislation as she is so busy constantly excusing congressmen and dropping charges against them in her cozy little Ethics Committee job. And Kerry, I think that they must have pinned his first purple heart to his brain, the one he got for the hemmoraging mosquito bite. And wouldn’t you think that two congressional veterans would be able to figure out how to prioritize things? I don’t think that the planet will die tomorrow or next week but we sure could use some help on getting some people some jobs and getting some relief to small business owners so Americans can put food on their plates. I guess your staffs are too busy collecting campaign contributions or something.
Well I checked and, big surprise, he AIN’T on the list.
Chuck DeVore for United States Senate – 2010
Official campaign website of Conservative Republican Chuck DeVore running for the US Senate against California Senator Barbara Boxer in 2010. Chuck is a true conservative with new …
Al Gore attacks Chuck DeVore for Barbara Boxer!
A friend of our campaign just forwarded a remarkable email to us. It was from Al Gore. The email from the former Vice President was a financial appeal to Barbara Boxer’s supporters.
Al Gore says this about Chuck DeVore: “Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, is already campaigning hard across California. He voted against AB 32, the landmark global warming legislation…”
Al Gore is right, Chuck DeVore voted against AB 32 – and debated against it – and fought tooth and nail against its implementation every step of the way. Because, unlike Al Gore, Chuck DeVore understands that neither California, nor America, can solve a global issue on the backs of hard working Americans.
You know when Al Gore is attacking him, Chuck is on the right track. Defeating Barbara Boxer in 2010 would have the same effect as a truck running over Al Gore’s climate change.
California shocker: Chuck Devore Ahead of Fiorina In Race Against Boxer
Chuck has Huffpo nervous too!
(#815685 oops! – sorry, wrong thread!)
This confirms my earlier statement about the tenuous GE connection.
Ah yes, Kerry and Boxer,the senate brain trust . . . good lord this country is sick.