Iran gets taken to the woodshed…but there’s no paddle
World “leaders” will meet with Iran to “talk” about its rogue nuclear activities.
The “leaders” say this will not be talk for talk’s sake.
But the Obama administration says sanctions are not on the table.
Just really, really tough talk.
Iran gets taken to the woodshed. But there’s no paddle. Just chit-chat.
Michael Ledeen is right: “We’ve Been Talking to Iran for 30 Years.”
And yes, it’s comfy chair time again!
C.E.H. Weidel tweets: “This administration needs Super Nanny.”
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That’s it! Bring out the “Comfy Chair”!
[JARRING CHORD]
[The door flies open and Cardinal Ximinez of Spain [Palin] enters, flanked by two junior cardinals. Cardinal Biggles [Jones] has goggles pushed over his forehead. Cardinal Fang [Gilliam] is just Cardinal Fang]
Ximinez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. Our two weapons are fear and surprise…and ruthless efficiency…. Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency…and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope…. Our *four*…no… *Amongst* our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again.
[The Inquisition exits]
Time to walk away from the talks.
I’m sure the Iranians are shaking in their sandals.
The purpose of talking to Iran is not to get Iran to do anything. The purpose is to soothe the mentally challenged American voter into believing Obama is ‘doing something’ about the rising danger. That’s all.
Iran will get nukes. The Arab world will arm up in response. With nukes all over the place, terrorists will be getting their hands on some. Cities will be lost. Government cameras will be everywhere.
Nuclear terror is a problem well down the road, perhaps a decade or so. That is clearly not Obama’s problem. Some lucky guy in the future gets to use that crisis.
Yep, just added.
Anyone surprised??
We are dealing with an Administration formed by a beta-male who voted “Present” on many of the bills, instead of being a man & standing FOR somethingby at least voting Aye or Ney on issues.
I was thinking more along the lines of Team America:
Let Israel handle it.
Now it seems that the Obama administration is divided on what to do in Afghanistan:
I can just imagine how this went.
Obama: Come on guys help me out. This is really tough. I mean it took me months to pick a dog and I still haven’t picked a new church. Please help me decide this one.
O.T…I notice that Obama decided to finally address the issue of Afghanistan after The People got on his case. Maybe he is listening to us after all! Or, he checked his poll numbers. It certainly isn’t because he really cares about the troops. I question the timing of the meeting yesterday…sandwiched in between his TV appearances and his trip to Denmark. I previously questioned his patriotism…but that question has been answered.
As for Iran…nothing will happen until it is too late. They will have nukes and Israel will be in dire peril. This country has sold Israel out, thanks to our muslum POTUS. I just hope the Jews in this country are finally waking up, and will stop voting for the liberals who want their homeland destroyed.
The only advantage Israel will have is that Iran will have to test one first. Israel will then HAVE to act. And quickly.
The Jews in this country do not give a damn about the Jews in Israel. If they did, they would never have voted for Obama.
Believe actions, not words.
Exactly.
Liberal ideology trumps theology
Roland, that is in fact hard to comprehend. But yeah. That seems to be the case.
and one more thing…
OBAMA = WEAK
You have entered the world of “medical wonders” no brains, no guts and no backbone.
Obama needs to quickly get back to Letterman, and maybe bring A-jad with him, and get this mess hashed out.
Yep, that would work
/sarc
The unfortunate reality is that Iran is a sovereign nation, and like all sovereign nations, will do what is in their best interest.
And ‘paddle’ is a euphemism for what exactly?
Obama, is actually making the French look like tough guys.
Our enemies know they can’t beat us in a battle with planes, tanks and soldiers. So they resorted to a covert op of rotting us from the inside out. Remember how these people operate. A 100 year plan.
Now go away or we shall taunt you a second time.
Begging to differ.
Obama = New World Order, One World Government. He’s selling us all out at lightening speed. Watch for him to move to dissolve the dollar before the end of his term.
Everyone MUST get their ‘houses’ in order NOW.
How is wiping out Israel in their best interest?
And assuming America’s president actually had any guts, how would Iran brandishing nukes be in it’s best interest? More likely, it would mean their demise. But then you have Obama. So that threat is zero.
JDAMs, F/A18D’s, 25 kiloton nukes… take your pick…
Further… going to a negotiation table in a case like this without a military threat looming in the background, makes the negotiations pointless for the side looking to win concessions.
And Obama’s cabinet has all but said that the US has zero intention of using a military option. In fact, it has given signals that it would try to prevent Israel from using a military strike.
And don’t forget that Iran has been a cancer to the US for more than 30 years. This stuff does not go away over night
I don’t disagree. I was referring to his stance towards aggressors.
Domestically, he is a socialist juggernaut.
Perhaps all of this chit-chat is just a diversion to get them to let down their guard while Israel takes care of business. They’ve done it before.
And is bent on the destruction of our sovereignty. Don’t look for him to move toward doing anything that might upset any provocative nation of the world, except Israel.
Ditto.
Stealth bomber kinda’ looks like a paddle.
Tomorrow night (Oct. 2) begins Sukkot. Sounds like a good time for the tribe of Judah to thrash some Aryan backside.
Yup. The number of fronts he is advancing on is disturbing. Most people probably don’t realize how many moves he and his gang are making.
Take Puerto Rico statehood. While it’s been a liberal issue for some time, they have now crafted a bill that attempts to bamboozle voters in Puerto Rico into voting for statehood, when repeatedly they have rejected it.
Essentially, they are putting forth a “When did you stop beating your wife” question to voters.
I’ll go into if anyone wants to know more, but you can google it as well.
The motive of course is two more Dem Senators and bunch of Dem congressman and a lot of Dem voters.
It’s all about power and control. It has nothing to do with the well being of citizens.
I can see the balerina behind this as well.
I think, like England and Chanberlain, everyone is scared of another world war. The next one will be much worse, of course, than the last one. But, there comes a time to know when you’re being “led on” and fooled, and put true pressure on these rogues. That’s the mark of a true statesman. Too many so-called “leaders” are more interested in themselves than solving world problems. So, nothing new on the world stage. A lot of people are going to die, needlessly, including some of these “leaders”, because of the “touchy-feely” mentality in the West today. History will, once again, repeat itself, as it has done countless times, due to ignorance. I fear for my children and grandchildren.
Just as predators, parasites, rapists, murderers, thieves, etc. do what is in their best interest.
What is your point?
I don’t know whether to ignore, or laugh out loud at, that question.
Do you even have a point, aside from contentiousness?
even the comfy chair would be too harsh for liberals to consider, so taking on iran, is a joke. this administration does not have the intestinal fortitude to do anthing against iran, courage escapes zero and his lackey’s.
I take it they would go no further than using the soft pillow, then.
It goes beyond their cowardice.
They actually favor Iran over us.
They think we are at fault, and are a bad nation.
I don’t know. That is Iran’s question to answer.
Again, I do not know. Iran has to be asked why they think having nukes is in their best interest. Iran has to be told that the response to their having nukes is their annihilation. Then the question becomes, who will annihilate Iran for having nukes? We did not, and have not, annihilate North Korea for having nukes.
OK.
And, I repeat, we did not take action against North Korea. And what about Pakistani nukes? India nukes? What were our concerns when those countries were developing nukes? What did we say then, and what did we do after the got them?
Agreed.
After Iran nukes Israel, controls the Gulf oil states and brings Europe to Her knees all will be well and we can all get along. Patience good people, patience.
May your flocks, herds and harems all prosper. Comrade Ayatollah B. Hussein Obama is on top of it.
They will say (and have always maintained) they are not making nuclear weapons, they only want cheap power.
Which they know will not happen, especially when they have nukes too.
I might point out that this simply does not matter to Eichmanndidajob in particular. He belongs to the Mahdi sect, and actually desires a world wide blood bath to usher in the Mahdi, the Muslim end times leader depicted in their prophecies. This is not Christ.
The point is that the obvious must be stated.
And, you obviously agree that any entity will do what is in their best interest, regardless of the consequences of their actions. Of course, we will do what is in our best interests, too.
Do exactly what you want, but stand up, take a position and answer the question. Others have. Grow a pair and skip the diplo-speak dance around reality and go ‘all in.’ Say what you mean and mean what you say.
Since when does making a statement of fact become contentious? And, asking a question is only contentious when the reponder does not know whether to laugh, or ignore it, because they do not have an answer. A question is contentious because it shuts down the responder who does not have an answer other than blather, and responding with a question rather than an answer.
Your posts give the impression that you believe that you are smarter than others here; I guarantee you that you are not.
The only question that you had posed in the post to which I had referred was:
The answer most likely is the credible threat of, preparation for, and the consequences of, military force.
“Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments.”
Frederick the Great
king of Prussia 1740-1786 (1712 – 1786)
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/34507.html
But, you knew that.
All of us here know that you knew that.
I’d like to make it perfectly clear to everyone that what is in a country’s best interest is very dependent upon who is sitting in the White House.
Iran was doing what was in its best interest in the early part of Jan 1981. Then towards the end of Jan 1981 it decided that something different was in its best interest. Nobody should suggest that the American people can’t effect the “best interest” decision of any sovereign nation.
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Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu will be providing the “paddle” as soon as their excellent intelligence agency decides that the Iranian NUKE is near completion.
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As far as Iran needing a test–intelligence agency guesses are that Israel has at least 100 nukes. They have never tested one. Hollow steel spheres (instead of the real plutonium or uranium pits) are crushed with explosive “lenses” to verify proper operation.
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The really hard part of getting nukes is getting the proper weapons grade fissile material. After that Mr. Kahn of Pakistan has provided all the other details needed.
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John Bibb
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oh re-heh-heally?
Been reading up on our Freud have we?
Well, fine; I’m ‘all in’ the game too!
Sounds like someone has a little pee-pee envy.
Great. Another chance for implementing the ‘Obama Doctrine’:
Undermine our friends,
Embolden our enemies,
Diminish our country.
Granite…it is clear that zzy is a troll, somewhat in the same category as lgm, but more wordy. This particular troll gets very very nasty, and belittles every point you try to make. These threads have had some great debates, including those between people who don’t agree on the issues. But when the debate becomes snarly and the poster thinks he is some brainy intellectual who knows better than you, it is time to stop feeding the troll.
Why don’t we skip all of this pretending and just lay it out:
Iran will never stop enriching Uranium no matter how much “talking”, “meeting”, and arm twisting occurs.
The minute that Obama or Hillary Clinton declares that we have blockaded refined gas shipments from Iran, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard will immediately blockade the straits of Hormuz and bring all crude oil shipments out of the Gulf to a complete standstill. Now, who is blockading who and who is hurting who the most?
Israel will end up attacking Iran and hopefully destroying the Iranian nuclear option. Nobody else will quit squabbling and “talking” long enough to do this. Israel is the only nation in the Middle East fearing it’s own existence on this planet and that is quite a motivator.
The only way for Israel to survive is to attack Iran. Even Israel has a limit to it’s patience. That limit will be reached very soon, within a few months to be sure. The time for talking will run out and the cornered Israelites will strike. Whether we or anybody else backs them up with anything else than words remains to be seen. I doubt that our limp-wristed president will commit.
I remember a few years ago when Congressional morons were talking about negotiating with terrorist groups a soldier with the 82nd Airborne called Rush Limbaugh. He said they were negotiating with them.
Lets send the 82nd Airborne to talk to Iran.
The sad thing is, Israel probably won’t be successful in bombing the nuclear plant. They will either get pushed back, or will not be able to penetrate the underground facility. We definitely have a HUGE problem here, and Obama is totaly incapable of dealing with it. Too bad his organizing skills won’t help him here because he is really good at that.
Your impression are your own. And, I will guarantee you that I am not smarter than others here. Never sais so and never suggested it.
I state my opinions based on the issues raised by MM. I rarely initiate discussions with other posters, but will respond to others who initiate a discussion with me, as you did. I ask questions, hope I get answers, and respond to those who take me to task. I avoid casting perjoratives, assigning motives, suggesting what someone knows or does not know, and agree with others on ocaission.
Yeah, but your response was not an answer. You told me how you felt, and your physical response.
Yep, that is an answer. ‘Paddle’ is a euphemism for ‘military force’. Why didn’t you say so sooner?
[Snark: Do you mean a capella?]
Excellant quote. And, no I did not know that. I am more familiar with Clauswitz, (paraphrasing) ‘War is an extension of diplomacy.’
Ummm, so how do you know what everyone knows I know? Reading responses to MM’s various posts on Iran, ‘paddle’ has been characterized as severe sanctions to all out war to tactical military strikes. Therefore, my definition of ‘paddle’ could be among those same responses given by other posters.
Try avoiding speculation and guessing, and just ask a question.
Ooh, my money’s on Spacy!
Aguado stomps on a cockroach to provoke Ventura]
Aguado: Homicide, Ventura. Now how ya gonna solve that one?
Ace Ventura: Good question, Aguado. First, I’d establish a motive. In this case the killer saw the size of the bug’s D!CK and became insanely jealous. Then I’d lose 30 pounds… PORKIN’ his wife.
I’m sure the Iranians are picturing Obama in their minds as wearing a Jimmy Carter mask. He is the answer to all their prayers…..someone they will be able to play with and string along for as long as neccessary.
a shiny nickel for the guy in the yellow hat!
“Stop! … or I’ll say ‘Stop’ again. Don’t make me write you another sternly worded letter!”
Paddle does not necessarily have to mean military intervention, but it should mean something more than just more talking.