I received a call from the Ontario PC Party, asking whether or not I would vote for Tim Hudak in the upcoming provincial election. Being a registered Liberal, having voted for McGuinty in the past, I said that I didn’t know who I would vote for, …

Maybe its the topic that’s bothering me and not the poster(s) comments. It’s very unsettling that more than one person here would publicly rationlize Hay’s comments in support of Nambla, because Hay did other good things.

That is the problem. NO ONE is rationalizing Hays support of NAMBLA. No one. I don’t know how many more ways that can be any more clear. What we are talking about is the ability to ignore one’s evil deeds or beliefs when assessing something else he did that was admirable. People here are always criticizing the notion of moral relativism and accusing liberals of engaging in it. But unless you accept that concept, you have to admit slavery is every bit as evil in 1770 as it is today. Yet people are able to compartmentalize Jefferson’s evil because they find other aspects of his life incredibly inspiring. I do not see why Hay, who was a legitimate gay rights pioneer in the 1950s (far before NAMBLA) deserves any less or more. It is nothing but hypocrisy.

Then compare and contrast Jenning’s actions when a 15/16 year-old kid at the school where Jennings was an administrator confessed a sexual relationship with a 44 year-old man that he hooked up with in a bus station restroom.

The kid was 16, which was age of consent. Admittedly, Jennings apparently thought at the time that it was illegal and did not report it. But do you really not see a reason why a gay adult would be reluctant to publicly out a closeted gay teen? Do you not think Jennings probably had some idea of all the confusion and fear that boy felt? Maybe went through it himself? Did Jennings make the wrong decision in not reporting? Probably. But to equate a very difficult decision with very real and potentially catastrophic consequences to the affected youth with active support of pederasty or pedophilia is wrong.

People on this thread have tried to make the argument that it is possible Jennings did not know about Hays’ comments. Well, the comments were easy for ME to find.

As I said, you have the benefit of this amazing tool called the internet. In 1997, when Jennings made those comments, did google exist? But either way, even if he did know about them, he commented about Hay specifically in the sense that he was a gay rights pioneer, not that he was a NAMBLA supporter. Again, I don’t know why he is not given the same benefit of the doubt that leads me to not believe you support slavery just because you dig Jefferson.

Oh.  Wait a minute.  He isn’t a Czar now…they are all COUNCELORS now.  I wonder if we have any COUNCELORS in the United States Constitution.
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I want to respond to your latest comment, but do not have enough time to give it the answer it deserves. If you read this, check in again tomorrow and I will have some thoughts.

Maybe its the topic that’s bothering me and not the poster(s) comments. It’s very unsettling that more than one person here would publicly rationlize Hay’s comments in support of Nambla, because Hay did other good things. Especially when you look at what Hay said, “If the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what 13,14,15 year-old kids need more than anything else in the world.” Look at that statement in light of Nambla’s stated goal, to eliminate age of consent laws. Then compare and contrast Jenning’s actions when a 15/16 year-old kid at the school where Jennings was an administrator confessed a sexual realtionship with a 44 year-old man that he hooked up with in a bus station restroom. What kind of educator couldn’t recognize the cry for psycological help that confession was? Only one who would condone a 15 year-old having sex with an older man. Jennings reply to wear a condom confirmed his support.

People on this thread have tried to make the argument that it is possible Jennings did not know about Hays’ comments. Well, the comments were easy for ME to find. I can’t believe an educated man like Jennings, who has written about gays in society, endorsed books about them and worked in the field, did not know such a key piece of history about the founder of the gay rights movement.

If Obama’s intent was to make schools safer for LGBT kids, that makes sense as those children are often picked apart by others and need protection. But Jenning is too radical and polarizing a figure to be effective. Jennings should step aside and Obama should find someone else.

All The President’s Scandals.

More like “throwing under the bus” is elevated to an Olympic event.

I’ll take it.