Bob Dole reminds me again why I voted for Harry Browne in 1996
Big government conservative and Beltway lobbyist Bob Dole prattled on yesterday about the “need” for “bipartisan” health care “reform.”
The Kansas City Star article about his speech failed to mention that Dole is on the dole of Alston & Bird, the D.C. law and lobbying shop that also employs Obamacare architect and human toe fungus Tom Daschle and Howard Baker:
Former Kansas Sen. Bob Dole says “there will be a signing ceremony” for a health care reform bill either late this year or early next. But the former presidential candidate says he isn’t sure what the bill will say. Dole, 86, spoke with reporters after an hour-long speech at a health care reform summit sponsored by Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas City. He told the group that he and former Sens. Tom Daschle, Howard Baker, and George Mitchell will issue a statement later today urging Congress to enact health care reform as soon as possible.
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UPDATE, 4:43: The statement is just from Dole and Daschle, and it’s attached below. An excerpt:“…Congress could be close to passing comprehensive health reform. The American people have waited decades and if this moment passes us by, it may be decades more before there is another opportunity. The current approaches suggested by the Congress are far from perfect, but they do provide some basis on which Congress can move forward and we urge the joint leadership to get together for America’s sake.”
Bipartisanship for bipartisanship’s sake gave us the massive No Child Left Behind expansion of the federal government’s role in education, the massive Medicare prescription drug expansion, massive tobacco tax hikes to pay for the S-CHIP expansion, and the massive TARP spending orgy, to name a few.
“Leadership” means knowing when to say no — and demonstrating the willingness to defy the Washington herd.
It’s a foreign concept for K Street fossils.
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What the hell does that even mean?
Should stop right there.
Our current healthcare system certainly needs to be addressed. Sen Dole agreeing with this is not the issue. The issue is ‘how’?
Instead of being outside the tent (yep, test to see if the door is truly open) go inside and push for elements that make sense. Tort reform, buying insurance across state lines, finding a way to produce more medical professionals, etc.
Saying, or agreeing, that the healthcare system requires reform is the easy part. Get in the room, go through the door, and say ‘how’.
Bob Dole is proven again to be merely an embarrassing, capitulating geezer. That he is roused at this point in time to prognostigate a “bipartisan” vote on an inscrutible bill absolutely clinches it.
Me too, Michelle.
This is all about Bob Dole’s bank account.
Bob Dole defines “career politician”.
Politics is his livelihood — always has been.
Well, what Bob Dole means is he really wants single payer.
Face it, he was the kind of professional politician that will compromise till the final goal is reached. Totalitarian control of the US!
Not true at all. He also made a nice chunk of change with those commercials for those pills whose name I can’t type because the spam filter blocks it.
How many Bush Republicans secretly support government health care — I’d bet most of them.
And the Bush family? They’d support it too depending on how it served them politically or depending on whether it would help in an election. The family has decided bigger issues that this one on the same “principles”.
Isn’t there some left over stimulus money that could be used to build a nursing home for elderly politicians who have outlived their usefullness (as it pertains to public policy, I’m NOT saying the elderly are useless)?
I’m thinking Dole, Carter, Pelosi, Reid, Byrd, probably McCain too, would all qualify. Feel free to add more to the list.
I have a solution. The government stays the heck out of health-care completely. Yeah, I know…if wishes were horse, beggars would ride.
Dole was and is a big government fan. So is the rest of the Republican hierarchy.
horse = horses
I don’t think Michelle ever voted against the “R” Jersey. It would be nice to think so, but she was pushin’ McCain….
Once a politician, always a politician. We never truly get rid of these inept clowns until they die of old age.
Yep.
One of those LOTE votes I cast before I learned the truth.
Who’s still pissed at me for voting for Keyes??????
Sorry, folks, but Dole is a typical Republican.
Don’t vote for a party. Find a candidate that espouses your beliefs and vote for that person. If you can find a party that agrees with you consistently, maybe go for that, but if they put forth a candidate that you don’t agree with, then don’t vote that way.
I have had enough of Republicans, and Bob Dole is the perfect example of why. If they put up a candidate I can vote for, I will vote that way, but not before.
RWR
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Dole was already senile when he ran for president. Thirteen years later and he’s still used up.
Amen to all of the above.
RWR
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Just for the record… he does far more than agree with the idea that our health care system needs reform. He “says as soon as possible.” And he’s saying it in conjunction with Tom Daschle. That implies he accepts the crap Congress is trying to push through now.
For him it’s Now….. not How. And would be bad news for America.
Calling Roland! Calling Roland! Nose-holders in trouble again! Need help! Bring smoke and mirrors!
Yeah, we get it, you don’t like Michelle Malkin- yet here you are reading her blog. Projection is the weakest of arguments. Not everyone is wed to a party. I refused to vote for John McCain as a staunch conservative because McCain IS NOT. Did that help Obama, I’m sure it did but I actually vote with my conscience, not act as a party hack. If she says she voted against a Republican candidate, who are you to say she did not.
I agree with your points on health care reform- But would add Personal Health Savings Accounts as an option to Social Security. Why is it they can not just start there and see how it changes the industry?
Answer: For them it is not about helping people but about power and expanding government.
We should be so lucky.
Dole is a pineapple, right? Nothing more, or am I wrong?
And you probably don’t believe I voted for Perot in 1992.
You third party fanatics refuse to get it. The 2008 election was about OBAMA. He was not and is not simply a leftwing Democrat like Clinton was. Obama is an America hating radical who is going to leave us badly damaged. If he leaves at all.
Bob & Liddy Dole are the type of Republicans WE in the grassroots want to change their party identification. I will note that those who identify with Bob in the Republican Party will be VERY LONELY after 2010 as Conservatives will be running that party!
I like the IDEA of a third party, but I want Obama out more. Vote Republican.
Exactly why does it need to be fixed?
What’s broken?
Last I checked, for almost every known disease, Americans had the highest survival rates. Seems to me to be something to be copied, not “fixed”.
Bob Dole was a capitulation candidate to Bill Clinton. I’m worried the same thing could happen in 2012.
This reminds me of what a dog hears when its’ master is speaking to it:
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, FOOD. blah, blah, blah, blah blah…
The only “bipartisan” solution that will fly is the one that rejects capitalistic solutions to a capital market problem. The only solutions being “negotiated” where Republicans are allowed to the table are the socialist solutions.
The Republicans DO have a sensible alternative but the McCains, Doles, Grahams, and the other Assistant Democrats keep blocking them on behalf of their friends across the aisle.
If you are conservative, you understand. If you are a nose-holder, you guys don’t understand anything. No thinking required to be a loyal Republican. Principal over party. Why are you guys so upset about Obama anyway? He’s only doing exactly what McCain would have done (and is doing). You guys make no sense at all.
That is why you will be very unhappy again next year while us conservatives celebrate again. It’s great being us.
why you will
Every time the Republicans have offered the Democrats an opportunity to truly be “bipartisan” on “healthcare reform” the Democrats have voted their amendments down. All the Democrats want is for the Republicans to accede to their demands so they can call it a “bipartisan” victory.
ECS
When Clinton proposed his health care monstrosity, Dole was right there from the start supporting it. Fortunately, the bulk of the American people thought it bad news and Mr. Dole’s pandering to the Clinton’s was insufficient. Personally, I could never understand the guy. Like many RINOs he evidently thinks his military service is a combination blank check and get-out-of-jail-free card. And he’s quite a bore about it. In the 1976 debates, he was talking about his war injury. In 1996, in the debates, he was talking about his war injury. And he’s still around doing the same schtick. Guys, we need more.
I could well imagine the Republicans putting together a McCain-Dole ticket in 2012. That truly would be the end of the world
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No more RINO’s. And I’m getting tired of old politicians of both parties with DEMENTIA coming on telling me what I need–or need to do.
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SARAH’CUDA for POTUS, JOHN BOLTON for VP in 2012. Vote out all incumbents with more than 8 years in office–until TERM LIMITS can be put in.
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He reminds me of why I didn’t even bother to vote in 1996.
Yes, please.
Should’ve voted for Jackson Browne.
Congressperson: “My constituents may hate me, but it’s the lobbyists who make me rich.”
Actually, Chappy, even liberals would rush to vote for Dubya himself in 2012 after 4 years of Obama (ceptin’ for that 2-term limit thingee). They’s gonna be a massive Dem bloodbath in 2010 the way it is.
The Dems will lose about 15-20 in the House and between +1 and -2 in the Senate.
You can book me for that.
I passed who I believe was Bolton walking down Mass Ave from the direction of the Heritage Foundation headquarters toward Union Station a few weeks ago. If it was him, he is way shorter than I imagined.
Unbelieveable yet true. These are people for whom the real world no longer exists. Bob Dole thinks it’s circa 1959. America is and never was a bottomless pit of money designated for the personal use of politicians working for “social justice”. The party is long over and China is coming to collect on the bill.
Memo to Bob: the Federal Government of the United States has broken the back of the American People and you were a part of that. You wasted your particpation in WWII Bob. Sorry about your arm but you and the other Republicans like you are a big disappointment. Please go away.
The Bi of “bipartisan” for “health care “reform” ought to man up and just switch parties–they serve no useful purpose as Republicans. I am still confused as to what they mean by “Big Government Conservative”–a little bit dead in the head? Utterly dishonest? As a person I guess Bob Dole was decent enough-a war hero to be honored. As a Senator and Presidential candidate–he should have stayed in Kansas.
And for the cartoon characters who get their political information from Bill Maher: No it was not Sara Palin who first came up with Death Panels–that would be the Human Toe Fungus AmongUs Tom Daschle. Read his damn book.
Is there a politician around that is NOT willing to sell his soul for money??????? I don’t think I have ever held a lower opinion of politicians as I do now; and that counts across the aisle. Good grief!!!!!
Corruptocrats are everywhere. Even when Dole was in the Senate he was a RINO,and today it’s whoever signs the checks gets his loyalty.A recycle of the government is way over due. Vote them all out of office.
Please keep in mind, that had it not been for all the protests against this legislative frankenstein, it would have been signed into law six months ago without review or debate. Democracy, deliverative bodies, debate, due process, huh? What is that all about?
Criminals behave like criminals regardless of their job titles. The only good thing about this government is that the masks have come off and their communist anti-American colors have flown for all to see. Mark them well.
Bad news is that millions of socialist bureaucrats are permanently entrenched in government – ready to leak information to the press and undermine the next Republican administration.
I don’t even think that’s true. I might have missed it, but I don’t remember MM endorsing anybody. And she was leading the charge against TARP, which would have been hard to do as a McCain supporter.
On October 8th, 2009 at 1:56 pm, sbw999 said:
Absolutely, but not very sucessful. The last one I saw was told flat out that he had no business bringing traditional conservative values to the Republican debates.
Gold is up a lot today, btw.
I’d say you’re an optimist, Chap.
I been guessin’ about Prez winners since I was a mere lad, starting with LBJ v. Goldwater. Got a 100% accuracy rate so far and Obama absolutely reeks of Jimmy Carter-1 term status. Unless the Republican establishment decides to reward another aged, clueless & timid GOP Senator with it’s version of a “gold watch” (the Presidential nomination), they got a lock on winning the WH in 2012.
That’s a combo gut-feeling & analytical conclusion, but not a partisan assessment; before ’77 was out I knew Carter would be histoire after 4 years, even though he got my vote in ’76.
HEIGHT-IST!
Purplepeep – Do not underestimate the unrivaled stupidity of the Republican Party.
I’ve got to agree with you, purplepeep.
In fact, I figured the economy was in such a downturn that whoever won the election was not going to be able to turn it around, especially given the use of bailouts, etc., and thus would be a one term President.
Given how the voters tend to give credit or blame to the President and the party he (soon to be she?) represents, I firmly believe that a President McCain would have led to the downfall of the Republican Party, as voters would have been more inclined to blame him than the Democrat controlled Congress for the economy. Even with the turmoil we’re experiencing today, the election of Barack Obama may eventually prove to be a blessing in disguise to the Republicans.
Honestly doubt it and here’s why. The economy is on the upswing, obviously. The Dow will probably be around 10,500 by the end of this year. By the time 2012 rolls around, it will be near the peak of this cycle. That may or may not have anything to do with Obama, but it will be very tough to vote him out if he can (rightly or wrongly) claim his policies saved the US from a depression. His approval numbers are slightly above 50% right now. Not great, but a fair chunk of that is from the far left who feel he hasn’t done enough. Do you think they are going to vote Republican?
Also, who is the GOP going to run?
Palin? I know she is a darling here but she is an absolute nonstarter, even as a Primary candidate. She would be a disaster as the nominee. I honestly do not think she could attract 40% of the vote of the general public.
Romney is damaged goods and has the Mormon thing working against him.
Bobby “Singsong” Jindal I thought was really strong, but he definitely has to do some rehab work to do after his almost universally panned State of the Union response.
Huckabee?…I really don’t think I need to say anything further.
Pawlenty is pretty plain vanilla and I suspect he would face some of the same issues as McCain id from the base wrt not being a pure enough conservative.
Anyone I am missing?
I just imagined him tall because he kind looks like my father in law, who is about 6-1 or 6-2.
I am 5-9 so I have nothing to brag about in the height department.
You have got to be kidding.
“Unless the Republican establishment decides to reward another aged, clueless & timid GOP Senator with it’s version of a “gold watch” (the Presidential nomination), they got a lock on winning the WH in 2012.”
True, very often it is “take aim, shoot foot”. Hopefully the party elitists have learned that if the go stupid again, they go it alone.
Have you looked at the Dow? NASDAQ? S&P? How much are they up since January?
Almost every indicator says the economy is at the very least, not getting worse and at best recovering. Except employment numbers, which everyone knows is a trailer.
Just remember MM, it was “HIS TURN” that time… Just like it was “OL’ JUAN’S turn the last time… S**T!!! I wonder whose “TURN” is coming up next???
Let’s hope that it is…It’s about time we caught a break!
It doesn’t matter who’s President. It’s Congress that must be replaced. The President doesn’t have as much power as most people think.
Just as a reference, since January 20, Dow up 23%, NASDAQ up 47%, S&P up 32%. Not saying Obama SHOULD get credit. But we all know that presidents DO get credit. Or blame.
Fool’s rally. Short term thinking. The only one buying anything is the U.S Government. And that game is about over. Look at the U.S. Debt Clock. The bill is coming due in the not-too-distant future.
I still maintain you’re an optimist there, Chap, and kinda delusional about an “economic upswing”.
Only a few minor economic rabbit-droppings have hit the fan so far. The worst is yet to come, the works of the fan will be so mucked up with dung that it’ll make your head spin.
Gotta agree with you there. I’m a lifelong Minnesotan and I can tell ya watching paint dry is infinitely more interesting & exciting than Pawlenty. And while he’s offering some conservative-style red meat now, anyone who sees him as some kind of a “Conservative Savior” is in for a surprise.
If you say so. But, for reference, a lot of people around here round about February were predicting the Dow would bottom out at 3,000 by year’s end. That didn’t pan out so much, did it?
Yup, even Obama knows that, citing what he called such “gyrations” as nothing to excited about either way.
chap – it will be a very interesting couple of years economically, won’t it?
In a morbid sort of way it is fun to watch supposedly brilliant economic prognosticators get their a$$es handed to them every few months.
Sorry, people, but Chap is largely correct about Obama in 2012. There will be a recovery. The timing is about right for the recovery to top out in 2012, or perhaps a bit later if we are going to double dip in 2010. Either way Obama will get the credit.
The recovery will suck rocks, but that won’t matter. FDR won a landslide in 1936. Same principle.
Those of you thinking Obama will be easy to beat in 2012 probably thought Clinton would be easy to beat in 1996 back in 1994.
The American Voter was never particularly brilliant (it’s the system), but lately she’s become a blithering idiot. Don’t expect too much.
I reckon you’ll have to check back on that on Dec 31st if you can cite these folks, Chap.
Um…Obama said the DAY to DAY gyrations of the stock market were nothing to get excited about. This has been a sustained 7 month rally.
If the Dow drops 6500 points in 3 months I swear I will vote for Palin in the next election. Hell, I swear I will donate the maximum amount to her campaign.
The American people have waited decades and if this moment passes us by, it may be decades more before there is another opportunity.
It’s called “head and shoulders”, Chap.
What you need to look at is historical chart info. In doing so, you see the DJIA peaked in Oct 2007. Then, as with every peak, you have the valley. The Great Depression was preceded by a six year bull market.
The only saving grace here for Obama is that it doesn’t have as far to fall to hit the bottom.
Of more importance, the DJIA being up or down doesn’t mean much to the lives of your regular working folks. Even the NYT asks:
“Does Obama Get It?”
“The big question on the domestic front right now is whether President Obama understands the gravity of the employment crisis facing the country. Does he get it? The signals coming out of the White House have not been encouraging. The Beltway crowd and the Einsteins of high finance who never saw this economic collapse coming are now telling us with their usual breezy arrogance that the Great Recession is probably over. Their focus, of course, is on data, abstractions like the gross domestic product, not the continued suffering of living, breathing human beings struggling with the nightmare of joblessness.”
You can check the 10 year DJIA chart here and mebbe catch why the short term undulations are misleading, at best:
Google – DJIA chart
Don’t expect a full recovery. There will be bright spots and setbacks. We’re not going to have any appreciable growth for at least a couple of years. It will probably be just enough to put us in the positive so they can crow about being out of the recession and claim that we’ve still got a long road ahead of us because of GWB so we need to give Congress a blank check, etc.
If they keep increasing the debt and devaluing our dollar, it will take even longer.
Add to that the extreme likelihood of major war in the MidEast in the near future – 6 months/year. If Obama refuses to take out the Iranian nuke sites, the Israelis are not going to sit and wait to be a sacrificial sheep to be “blown off the map”.
I’m not worried. If the Dow starts to tank, then I am just going to have to call on John Deaux to personally save 100,000 more jobs.
the irony of this story is that bob dole as a young congressman stood on the house floor and said medicare would bankrupt this country in 65. his prediction is now true, but he is embracing more medicare. can you say alzheimer’s.
They all get completely corrupted if they stay in the District of Corruption long enough.
That’s an oxymoron Michelle.
Just imagine how much worse all this would be if I weren’t saving thousands of jobs every day!
I disagree.
I prefer to take the postion, if you want changes and my vote, having these specific ‘elements’ in the bill will make it better, and therefore have my support. It happens all the time with all kinds of legislation.
Realize that the Republicans have said that the process should start over, the implication being that they believe healthcare reform is needed. And, in crunching the current bills in progress the Republicans have had amendments added.
Get in the room, go through the ‘open door’ and participate.
I agree 100% with chapoutier.
I think the next GDP number will be a game changer. I think it will show quarter-over-quarter of growth.
Guess what that means. That means that the MSM will proudly tout that the recession is over. That doesn’t mean the economy is strong. That doesn’t mean the economy is growing well. It simply means that the economy isn’t receding.
This news will provide the optimism necessary to spur more growth. This growth will probably continue if Obama’s policies are defeated. (The repeal of the Bush tax cuts remain a unknown parameter).
The bottom line is that Republicans better start thinking about a winning strategy which assumes an improved economic condition.
OK, excellant idea, adding Personal Savings Accounts as an option for an additional element that would be beneficial to healthcare reform.
If you have say $100,000 in a dedicated tax free account for medical expenses, then maybe you should not have to pay insurance premiums, or much much smaller premiums.
Don’t know the exact amount but the idea certainly should be examined.
It is the fact that healthcare is expensive and the costs are rising, that it needs to be addressed.
On October 8th, 2009 at 2:54 pm, chapoutier said:
A seven month rally? Even by the alteration of the “scoring” of the DOW?
I submit to measure this success of this rally on exactly the same parameters and criteria that existed on the beginning of the “7 month rally”. Same corporation make up and no substitutions. As soon as the GM was removed from the listing, the DOW average increased.
Not true.
In the House some 150 amendments by Republicans have been included in HR 3200. Addtionally, language was removed, added, and/or modified concerning ‘end of life consultations’ and addressing illegal immigrants. Yep, that last one was the result of Rep Addison Wilson’s outburst.
So, to say that every time the Dems voted down the Reps is simply untrue.
As for ‘bipartisanship’ I have yet to hear a consistent definition, or use, of the term. Is it ‘bipartisan’ to have both parties contribute to developing acceptable legislation, or to have both parties vote for legislation, or is it both?
Not true.
In the House some 150 amendments by Republicans have been included in HR 3200. Addtionally, language was removed, added, and/or modified concerning ‘end of life consultations’ and addressing illegal immigrants. Yep, that last one was the result of Rep Addison Wilson’s outburst.
So, to say that every time the Dems voted down the Reps is simply untrue.
As for ‘bipartisanship’ I have yet to hear a consistent definition, or use, of the term. Is it ‘bipartisan’ to have both parties contribute to developing acceptable legislation, or to have both parties vote for legislation, or is it both?
Errah Bob Dole’s hand was reinjured from patting democrats and himself on the back.
Errah Demogoblins and Republiscum all are livin high on the hog here in Ole DC. Business as usual. From what I hear, you can’t swing a dead cat around and not hit a well healed lobbyist servin up dinner. I’ll have another martini before my steak is served if you please!
Only if there are any conservatives left in the party.
Seems to me it’s full of liberals, and Dole is among the least of them.
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Letting go of my nose was one of the most enlightening experiences of my life.
RWR
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Don’t have to.
Unemployment will be over 10% at the next check, and that doesn’t include people whose claims have run out and have given up looking. If you count those people we’re already over 17% and closing in on 20% and a ridiculous rate.
Where exactly are all the taxpayers Obama will need to pay for his massive tryst into illegal socialism (not to mention these people’s next legitimate paycheck)?
RWR
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Indeed it is, but big government REPUBLICAN is not.
Keep that in your juice box while you’re sucking on it!
RWR
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You are a true American hero, John Deaux.
That VIAGARA commercial Bob Dole did was pathetic. There, Chap, I’ve released your conscience-I said the V-word…OK now you can go out and play some more.
Under normal circumstances, the Repubs should be on the cusp of not a landslide, but a Tsunami in 2010-12. However, they seem doomed to sabotage their own success before they get there which is unfortunately part of their history.
If -after taking into account the Tea Parties and the Health Care protests this year-the Repubs still can’t make the Dems own this monstrosity of a health care bill by not caving to more bipartisanship, their destruction as a party will be imminent and unavoidable.
Well as long as Bob Dole, John McCain and James Carvil are leading the republican party the Democrats will have….no worries…
When ‘bipartisanship’ is defined as one Republican crossing over to support a 100% supported Democrat bill, the Republicans can never achieve the measure of purity so many of you demand.
By that standard if just one RINO in one state can get a majority of Republican voters in that state to vote for him/her, then the entire Republican Party is defined by that one RINO. That is ridiculous.
Reality: The Democrat Party is 100% extreme leftwing, Pelosi supporting slime. Many of them lie about it, but they all are. The Republican Party primaries are the only true battleground for conservatism. Voting for the more conservative candidate (least leftwing) in both the primaries and the general elections is the only way to pull the politics in the direction of conservatism.
Only children, political novices and those of arrested mental/emotional development do not understand those facts.
After making the above comment I realize the third party fanatics would say ‘the most conservative candidate’ would be theirs.
TP Fanatics: Your candidates are not in the race any more than Mickey Mouse is in the race. If you vote for someone you know has no chance to win, no one gives a damn about your vote. Votes that might matter as to who wins are the only ones the politicians care about. Like, duh.
I’d agree with that if I believed there were any hope of conservatives ever taking control of the Republican Party. Reagan was the EXCEPTION, not the rule.
All conservatives should be shopping for a new party at this point, as the Republicans are basically toast.
The way things are going, the Republicans are going to be TP.
RWR
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If we cannot even take the Republican Party, what makes you think we can take the whole country?
The Left understood how our system works. That is why there are so many socialists and communists deep inside the Democrat Party.
Meanwhile, ‘conservatives’ who want purity are failing to vote for the better candidate because the better candidate sucks so much, so the politicians discount them. They can be safely ignored. That drives the politics of the country further to the left, keeping conservatives from deciding to go into politics at all.
Extreme leftwing government causes a steady drift of the electorate toward the left as that form of government seems ‘normal’ and ‘centrist’ to the politically uninformed (always +90% of the voters) and as more and more people come to see their well being as being dependent on Big Government.
Your approach is just wrong. It accomplishes nothing and drains conservatives off from the real battle.
This assumes we ever were of any importance to the Republicans. We have never been. We have been their corps of “useless idiots”, whom they pander to to get votes, then go the way of the Democrats once elected.
That’s why the numbers are down in BOTH parties, but more so in the Republican Party. The way things are going, there isn’t even going to be a Republican Party to take.
It’s a much better idea to go ahead with something new that isn’t tainted with corrupt money and influence. we’d never get control of the Republican Party because there are too many powerful liberals in it to be able to do that. A sustained attack from the OUTSIDE is the only way these entrenched Republicrats will be defeated.
Staying with the Republicans gives you a choice between extreme left and almost as extreme left. None of them gives a flying hoot about the Constitution, and you won’t get either party to do so.
I’ll pass on that choice, thanks.
Give me a conservative candidate, and I’ll vote that way. Otherwise, see ya later.
RWR
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I’d say your approach is wrong. You are the one trying to revive a dead party with ideals it has never stood for.
I can’t see how that could possibly make sense.
RWR
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Seriously, Roland. Go read that platform in my link and tell me you’re going to get anywhere near that with the Republicans. Then try to deny that that platform is exactly what America needs.
RWR
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You did not answer how conservatives could take the country when they cannot even take the Republican Party. Liberal power brokers in the Republican Party do not nominate candidates.
Voters nominate candidates.
If you cannot rally enough conservatives to nominate someone in the Republican primaries, where the number of voters is relatively small, how do you rally enough conservatives to win the general election?
It makes no sense. Your feelings appear to be blocking you from recognizing an unhappy and difficult truth about the system.