Ugh: McCain & Company melting on cap-and-tax
I said it last month and it bears repeating: Beware the Climate Change Republicans.
Are you ready for the latest signs of capitulation by GOP global warming preacher Sen. John McCain and company?
1) Senate Dems opening to nuclear as a path to GOP support, 60 votes
Key Senate Democrats signaled yesterday they are willing to negotiate with Republicans on nuclear power and expanded domestic oil and gas development if it helps in nailing down the 60 votes necessary for floor passage on a comprehensive global warming and energy bill.
“Every idea is on the table,” said Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry (D-Mass.), the lead sponsor of Senate climate legislation. “We’re going to work in a bona fide way with everybody to see how to bridge a gap here. We’ve got to get a 60-vote margin. That means you’ve got to legislate, which means you have to compromise.”
Several moderate Senate Republicans, including John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, said they are in talks with Kerry and Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) on the nuclear language, as well as other key issues.
“A guy like Senator Kerry is looking for coalitions,” Graham said. “If you had a bill that would allow for responsible offshore drilling, a robust nuclear power title, I think you could get some Republican votes for a cap-and-trade system.”
2) Lieberman Goes Nuclear on Climate Bill
While he’s no longer a member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, Sen. Joe Lieberman (ID-Conn.) has been working behind the scenes to try to woo bipartisan support for a climate change bill this year. Lieberman, who relinquished his seat on the EPW panel after actively campaigning for Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) 2008 presidential bid, is aligning with a group of Senators including McCain, Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Richard Burr (R-N.C.) and Tom Carper (D-Del.). The Senators are crafting a nuclear energy amendment that they hope will be the key to getting some type of climate change reform approved by the chamber in the coming months. Last week, EPW Chairman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry (D-Mass.) unveiled a far-reaching climate measure. But the bill — which is seen largely as a place holder — has few fans. “Do I think the climate change bill is going anywhere? No. But in its ashes are opportunities for bipartisan, incremental reform,” Burr said. Indeed, McCain suggested Lieberman’s amendment could be offered as an alternative way of tackling climate change, rather than the broad Boxer-Kerry bill. “I introduced legislation with Sen. Lieberman in the past twice. I’m certainly not opposed to it,” McCain said.
3) Via Houston Chronicle:
How’s the Senate climate bill going? Republicans hint there might be room for a compromise. “Senate Republicans could be persuaded to support a climate change bill if it includes ‘a robust nuclear power component’ and provisions to expand ‘offshore drilling in a responsible manner,’” Sen. Lindsey Graham tells the Houston Chronicle.
Hey, Sens. McCain and Graham. Cluebat for you: Don’t read the Democrats’ lips. Read their record.
In 2005, Sen. Boxer voted against the McCain-Leiberman bill, specifically because it included nuclear provisions:
“The second step in solving the climate change problem is to increase the use of renewable resources, such as wind and solar. Unfortunately, this is where the McCain-Lieberman amendment doesn’t just fall short, but would be a step backwards. The amendment includes provisions to provide financial assistance to so-called “clean” technologies. On its face, it sounds good. But, the amendment makes nuclear power eligible for these subsidies. Here we go again. The nuclear industry is once again knocking on Uncle Sam’s door asking for Federal subsidies to pad their bottom line. We should oppose the nuclear industry’s latest effort to raid the public purse. Nuclear power is not the solution to climate change, and it is not “clean.” The nuclear industry has not solved its waste and safety problems. By subsidizing the creation of new nuclear plants, we are condoning the creation of more waste and turning a blind eye to the hazards associated with nuclear power.
Proponents of these subsidies say that they are not limited to nuclear power, and that many types of zero or low-emission technologies could benefit. However, the amendment creates an unfair playing field for this assistance by side-stepping the costs of nuclear power’s waste and safety problems. A candid analysis of energy choices must consider the full life-cycle costs associated with each technology. This amendment fails to contain such an analysis. Thus, the amendment unfairly and irresponsibly ignores nuclear power’s biggest problem–the waste. This could easily tip the scales in favor of more subsidies for nuclear plants, and less for other truly renewable technologies. The nuclear industry has already benefited from $145 billion in Federal subsidies over the last 50 years. Truly clean and renewable sources of energy, such as wind and solar, have received just $5 billion.
Moreover, these new subsidies could go to some of the world’s biggest companies. The Top-10 nuclear energy producing corporations in the Nation are among the largest companies in the world. These companies include Duke Energy, Exelon and Dominion Resources, which are among the 200 largest companies in the world. Do these large companies need Federal subsidies? No. These ten corporations earned more than $10 billion in profits in 2004 selling energy from a variety of sources. Subsidies for new nuclear plants are not a sound investment. The Federal Energy Information Administration and a representative of the nuclear industry both acknowledge that nuclear plants are not a viable technology without new subsidies. The EIA has stated that between 2003 and 2025, “new nuclear power plants are not expected to be economical.” Thomas Capps, the Chief Executive Officer of Dominion Resources–which has more than $55 billion in assets–was asked about the economics of constructing new nuclear plants. He said, “I am all for nuclear power–as long as Dominion doesn’t have to take the risk …..” Instead of the nuclear industry taking the risk, the nuclear industry wants the public to shoulder the burden.New subsidies for new nuclear plants are unnecessary. The Department of Energy has shown that we can drastically reduce our Nation’s climate change pollution without increasing the number of nuclear plants. We can and should solve the problem of climate change without increasing the problems of nuclear waste and safety. I wish that I could support the McCain-Lieberman amendment, as I did 2 years ago. But by making the nuclear industry eligible for yet more subsidies, as a matter of principle, I cannot vote for this year’s version.”
McCain Republicans = Charlie Brown.
Democrats = Lucy.
A “reasonable” climate change bill with real nuclear/drilling provisions = football.
Good grief.
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I admire McCain for his military service. I loathe him as a senator. Vote Charlie Brown out.
Oh my! I could solve this whole thing with one bill… Drill here, everywhere for everything! 10% profit tax on Government owned lands to go to grants for alternative energy research via X project process. No vehicles using Gas, Diesel, or CNG sold in the US after 2030.
Done! Moving on!
It’s no wonder we’ve lost the house, lost the senate, and lost the presidency. With the current crop of flaky Republicans representing us it won’t be long before we lose the entire country. The election criteria process must be changed.
I keep saying it but McCain = GOP. You can’t separate the two. To continue pretending that there are two parties in DC is being willfully blind. If in 2010, the GOP regains a House majority, we will be back to fighting the GOP again over the same exact issues just like back in 2006 when we were fighting Bush/McCain over amnesty.
If you are a conservative still registered Republican, take the first step to fixing the GOP. Re-register as an unaffiliated independent. They are not paying attention to complaints within the ranks. They are trying to win the independent vote which is becoming increasingly populated by those of us who are fed up with “both” parties. Join us.
It will clarify your thinking once you discover why the one-party system controls everything yet still can’t defeat us. It will help you understand why Palin is important to conservatives and to like-thinking fed-up Americans.
At the risk of being incredibly impolite, but as a South Carolina resident, I have grown really tired of my Senator Lindsay Graham doing anything his buddy McCain does.
“Senator McCain, where ya goin’ today? Off that cliff? Hey can I come too?!!”
I couldn’t vote for him in the last election. After he signed on to the TARP (after buddy McCain did), he lost my vote. (I didn’t vote Dem. Just left that area blank. None of the above.)
Why is he still in the Senate anyway? When a sitting politician runs for a different office, he should be required to resign his current office, immediately!
If he actually believes he has a chance to win, then take the risk. If not, then don’t throw your hat into the ring.
So now we have to put up with McMarx and his socialism lite until, like Chappaquiddick Ted, they carry him out in a box.
You didn’t vote “none of the above”, you just didn’t vote. If possible, you should have voted for any 3rd party candidate. That would have diluted the winning vote.
Dolts. They never learn. The Democrats lie. They will betray their end of the bargain. Ask Reagan about amnesty.
McCain: conservative on national defense; and left wing tool on others. Cant figure that guy out.
Thank God we don’t have McCain in the White House. After Bush, the last thing the Republican Party needed was someone even worse.
But the “R” Jerseys are doing all they can to keep conservatives out of the next election cycle.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33826
I think The Constitution or Libertarian Parties are the only hope going forward.
By the way, Chris Simcox and J.D. Hayworth are considering runs against McShame.
From above:
If possible, you should have voted for any 3rd party candidate. That would have diluted the winning vote.
Me: I did, I voted for a Constitutionalist Conservative: Chuck Baldwin.
The entire NeoCON clan urged McCain. It exposed them as frauds. Nothing more than Jersey Worshiping.
Just so know where Ivan McMarx is coming from. The following is from a website called C-17 For America.
Gawd! McMarx is just a socialist lackey! Grow a backbone, Senator. Stand up for the country!
Pasdena Phil, good points as usual. And we should expect mcamensty to lead the charge for amnesty next year as well.
Geez, if only I would’nt have wasted my vote on a 3rd party candidate, we might have this fine conservative, mcamnesty, as POTUS right now. /sarc off
Here come the “you elected obummer because you didn’t vote for mcamensty” crowd in 3..2..1
sbw999. Not anymore. See my entry about the C-17.
Weary Citizen, have you talked to any Hondurans lately so they could thank you for your vote?
Weary Citizen -
Here I am! RIght on schedule!
You DID give us Odumbo because you didn’t vote for McSham!
Thanks a LOT! Good job!
McSham on his worst day is better then the Bastard Socialist Odumbo!
Who you gonna vote for on 2012? Mick E. Mouse?
Good Job!
Maybe we can trade McCain back to the Vietnamese… they must have SOMETHING we could use.
McCain has long outlived his shelf-life and needs to retire. He was never comfortable being a Republican and certainly not a conservative. As everybody knows he almost joined the democrats twice. He could have been Kerry’s running mate!
Yes, I voted for him but it was like I wanted to cut my hand off afterwards for doing so. He is the kind of lose-gracefully, bi-partisan republican democrats love and like Bush and many others of that ilk, being “loved” by democrats is the highest goal imaginable.
The Communists are well on their way to completion of their plan to deconstruct American society. Individual issues matter little, just so long as the American leviathon is harrassed, stabbed, hamstrung, and poisoned constantly. Without aid or relief it eventually it will fall. Death by a thousand cuts, with our communist traitor legislators patiently waiting to pick up the pieces. Then the political vandals and barbarians have their choice of the booty. What leaders do we have? Who stands in the gap now?
Continued inaction means we will lose the American Republic. When that happens only an armed revolution can restore it.
Thanks for the civics lesson Pasadena Phil… but since there wasn’t a 3rd party candidate, the only other real option is to vote for neither. Writing in my dog’s name doesn’t send anyone a message — other than this guy’s crazy. If registered republicans opt out of voting for candidates they don’t believe in, I’m sure some smart statistician at the party’s HQ will begin to wonder why there are X number of republican voters who voted and only Y number ended up voting for Z candidate.
I know you’re on some sort of independent push right now, but voting for a different middle of the road party (that may not believe in all the same things you do) doesn’t seem to accomplish much in my mind. It’s that mushiness that we are trying to get away from. It’s better to send a message from within. No money, no vote, for candidates that wear the label but don’t vote in their party’s interest.
Surprising to me, and very sad. I wonder what other Repubs supported that amendment?
I agree with one poster here who stated that McCain would have been a disaster as President. He seems to be following the political track of Arlen Specter.
I voted for Palin for VP, and I voted to try to stop Obama. That meant voting for McCain.
Now Palin is in the wilderness and Obama is the most powerful man on the planet, supporting leftists like Zelaya and telling our enemies how horrible Americans are.
But, hey, what’s important is Phil and RWR and Weary feel good about their votes.
The party is full of McCains. The GOP remains a white-washed tomb. Their possible future control of the government will only marginally slow our death spiral.
They all want amnesty because they crave the latin vote and the latin tax payments to offset those that would have come from the tens of millions of aborted American babies. They are nothing if not pragmatic. Crap & Tax is another lame 19th century style money/power grab that will bury us even deeper in the tar pit – guaranteeing a dead economy. Sure hope oil stays low… not likely.
McCain and his ilk are just another handful of corruptocrats that need to go. Let’s hope that the people of this country will clean house next year before these people have an opportunity to do anymore damage.
John McCain is history’s greatest monster! No republican voted for him in the primaries, it was all the democrats who did it covertly! He can’t fly a plane and started the USS Forrestal fire! He collaborated with the North Vietnamese and he was treated well by his captors! He’s a secret democrat!!!
McCain hates Boeing. After the first tanker debacle (which was rightly exposed and people went to jail) McCain will always vote to kill anything connected to Boeing.
Being pro nuclear I would very carefully have to consider this approach.
Whether the Dems wish to admit it, nuclear power is a critical component to lessening our dependence on oil. Yep, there will be electric cars, but where will the electricity come from?
We need nuclear power and coming to some sort of agreement will be necessary.
Off topic (taking a tangent) how good of an idea would it have been to use stimulus funds to build a couple of nuclear power plants? Architects, Engineers, Pipe fitters, Carpenters, Electricians, etc. would all experience employment. We would need re-bar, concrete, earth moving equipment, etc.
What would be the result? Something we can point at (like the TVA) and would produce electricity for the electric cars. Stimulus for street theater is one thing, but it ends, nuclear power is forever.
Re-think that part of your statement. You are not voting FOR the 3rd party candidate, you are voting AGAINST “both” of the main candidates. That is the mental hurdle that so many people just can’t seem to work around. You don’t have to vote Dem or Rep. And you don’t have to agree with a candidate’s platform since he won’t win anyway.
It will matter big when both parties combined account for less than half of voter registrations and we are nearly there. They will not be able to function when our elections start looking like Europe’s when, in the absence of clear mandates, the winner cannot garner even 42%. A two-party system cannot operate than way. We win.
I read so many comments all over the conservative blogosphere of guys with “Sgt something” monikers who seem to think that the only alternative to their continuing to pontificate from their sofas is to take to the streets with 50 caliber assault weapons.
How hard is it to try something else like re-registering away from the one-party system and then voting for any 3rd party candidate? Let’s try that first! It’s working already!
As the absurdity of the various agreements for compromise to totalitarianism by Republicans are exposed, the Republican party will lose conservative support.
As the Republicans in office become indistinguishable from the democrats, conservative voters will need new candidates for future elections.
Senator McCain…you’ve served your country proudly, now, don’t let that pride hit you in the arse on the way out. Do your country one last favor…retire. Your act is getting old and stale, and this country needs sone new conservative prospective.
P.S. Take Lindsay with you!
Right on cue.
Next time I will check with all the countries around the world before I cast my vote. On second thought, I will consider what is best for the actual country I call home. Not just pull the lever for any “r” trotted out there. And mcamnesty was the poster boy for “any r”. Anyone still voting based on the “r” designation either 1) agrees with the center policies the gop espouses or 2) personifies the definintion of insane (how many times does the gop have to prove they are not conservative before you get it).
Sorry, Thomas, but McCain is a ’secret democrat,’ and Democrats did cross over to help get him win the nomination, along with leftist inclined ‘independents’ who also have no business voting in a Republican primary.
Don’t confuse your insanity of supporting McCain for the nomination with the insanity of the so-called conservatives who failed to vote to stop Obama and make Palin VP.
Roland:
It sure is hard being a nose-holding Republican these days isn’t it? It is so hard to sell cancer. You can’t brand it in a way that people will buy it. You need a better product.
You missed the point, WearyCitizen, but then that is no surprise given that you vote to feel good instead of voting for the politician likely to do the least damage.
Grow up.
Well if he is a secret democrat, and you know about it – then he’s as bad as keeping this a secret as he is flying a plane!
Phil, it would be much harder to be you. But I am a responsible voter, and you don’t have that ‘problem.’ You just vote whatever way makes you feeeeel good. Just like a Democrat.
Obama is working out fine for you. Wrecking the country and all. And if he gets 8 years, that’ll be good, too.
What would be awkward for you is if someone you voted for actually got elected.
We need to get this guy out of the Senate.
McCain is not a popular guy in Arizona (big surprise).
A leftist Democrat would be better — I encourage folks to contribute to McCain’s opponent next year.
Roland, what is a “responsible voters”? You are babbling incoherently. Had all of those southern conservatives voted 3rd party instead of staying home, that alone would have denied Obama a 50%+ majority vote. Had those Republicans who were so put off by McCain voted 3rd party instead of voting for Obama, the winning vote could have been held to the mid/lower 40% range. NO MANDATE! We would have rejected BOTH wings of the socialist one-party system. It would have spared us the nonsense of the past 9 months.
Yeah, I know. You are stuck in this “lesser of two evils” intellectual hell. They make pills for that.
Or you can try letting go of your nose, it’s cutting off the circulation to your brain.
I think we should flood Michael Steele’s office with calls, faxes, emails, etc. insisting that he better start rounding up solid conservatives and ostracize the others.
Grow up? Oh you got me there. Voting for the VP? Yea that’s mature isn’t it? It takes maturity to realize you are supporting the wrong platform and make a change rather than becoming a creature of habit (like a child does).
And for Thunderhawk, continuing to support the gop centrist paltform by always voting for them not matter what HORRIBLE candidate they run, led us to a mcamnesty candidacy. If conservatives had made it clear long ago they would nto stand for left of center candidates like mcamensty as their torchbearer, we would not be having this conversation right now. So touche. “Thanks a lot. Good job.”
McCain won the nomination because of the anti-Bush and anti-war vote.
You can verify this for yourself. Go through the exit polls from 2008. It’s there in black and white.
Yeah. Right. But we knew they were not going to do that when we went into the voting booth.
Seriously. You guys need to grow up.
And, WearyCitizen, you do not vote for a platform unless you’re a policy wonk. Serious voters vote for the candidate ……. unless there is no one to support who has any chance to win on election day, in which case the serious, responsible voter votes for the lesser of evils.
Are you guys new to politics? Maybe you’re young?
I love the ill logic. Voting to uphold not only your principles, but also the Constitution and the Rule of Law, is a wasted vote, but voting for McCain to stop Obama, now that’s the ticket!
McCain was for TARP
Cap N Trade
Pro Amnesty
Pro closing Gitmo
etc.
Ya, I sure screwed up.
McCain makes me sick and so does Lindsay Graham. When does that S*B come up for re-election – either of them?
BTW, the reason you vote for the candidate is because it is the candidate who will be making the decisions. Not the ‘platform.’
Yes, Steve, you screwed up badly. Obama gives you all of those things, too, and much, much more!
Are you for real? The platform tells you how they will govern. For gop lately, that means left of center (ie suport amnesty, cap & trade, social programs, affirmative action…). So if a charismatic candidate runs on a socilaist platform, you will support him? I think I am starting to get the picture of why you continue to vote republican, even after they p*ss down your back and tell you it’s raining. To be clear, I vote for conservtive candidates. If a republican is conservative on crucial issues to me, I vote for them.
Here’s a clue. CANDIDATES form platforms. Otherwise, nobody would knwo how they stand on issues.
Sure we would. You did. It did not work, did it? Oh, you are talking about conservatives who actually care about the consequences of electing guys like Obama? Sorry, those dastardly Republican Party leaders know we won’t vote for the destruction of the country, so they can count on us to oppose Obama. Drat. You think you’ve made a point?
If we cannot nominate a conservative, then we have to keep voting for the left of center candidate who is the least left of center.
That is the way our political system works. Learn it.
Nope. Political paries do. Candidates can influence or even dictate what is in the platform, but the history of even powerful candidates following their platform is poor.
Furthermore, the talk of platforms has nothing to do with stopping Obama. It has nothing to do with electing conservatives.
Yep, right up to the point that we have the choice of a communist or a socialist. That’s a slippery slope you’re on. I would say good luck with that, but unforutnately, that strategy will harm me as much as it does you. The illogic of voting for someone because they are not the other guy it absurd. But hey, it’s a free country, for now.
Just so I can keep score at home, is John McCain the communist, or is he the socialist.
Thhhaaaannnkkkssssss.
This would be the last straw for me. If the Repub liberals (they’re not “moderates” anymore) cave on Crap and Tax, I’m finding another party! I don’t care if PA is a closed-primary state. I can no longer stomach the COMPLETE abandonment of conservative principles by Repub “leaders”.
Sigh, WC, if we always vote for the more conservative candidate (not necessarily the most to the ‘right’) to get the nomination in the Republican Party, and then we always vote for the more conservative (least left) candidate in the general election, then if conservatives really are in the majority, they will get elected.
It is not complicated.
Let’s see. The Bush/McCain “friends of Teddy” were trying to cram down amnesty in 2006 failed, suffered massive losses in the 2006 election, came back and tried again to cram amnesty down our throats, failed again, passed bailouts, and got killed again in the 2008 election. Now they are helping their friends across the aisle to cram down amnesty, stimulus, cap and trade, nationalized healthcare, and so on. They are failing.
Explain again to me how conservatives are losing? Looks to me like we don’t need a candidate. But then again, I don’t vote while holding on to my nose so I can think clearly.
Face it you nose-holders, the GOP is worse than irrelevant. They are past tense. The Dems get the dead people vote while Reps vote for a dead party. Check. Got it.
I wish that McCain would end the pretense, and follow Arlin Specter by joining the party of the insane and criminally deranged. He is a blight upon face of American politics and governance, no more or less than any tyrannically socialist Democrat or RINO anywhere.
Priciples? We don’t need no steeenking principles!!!
Cap-and-tax is the devil’s work, folks. John McCain is a doofus. End of story. That’s the next big thing. After they cram down health care on us, they’ll be after us on energy costs. They’re trying to bankrupt the country and all of us with it.
Unfortunately, I think the answer is to take back the Republican party. (Boy, do I hate to say that!)
Make it the Conservative party that it claims to be.
I don’t see how a 3rd party can make it in this system.
The electorate is uninformed.
I got a notice that Sen Jim Demint and Eric Ericsaon from Red State are having a call on 11/3 for the Senate Conservatives Fund. You can sign up here:
http://senateconservatives.com/senatestrategy/index.php?c=UFWC8
Find and support real conservatives and promote them in the primaries.
Defeat those liberals who have an R.
Grassroots and involvement.
Posting on a blog may be good for our feelings but it’s going to take sweat and shoe leather.
And being more vocal.
Write more letters, make more phone calls, talk to more of your friends and neighbors.
If we last that long, the 2010 primaries are the best hope.
Is this why Glenn Beck was saying McCain would be even worse of a president than Obama? At least with The One, you can expect this sort of thing. With a Republican, it’s like getting poisoned by your spouse.
You didn’t have to write in your dog. Was there seriously no one else you could think of who would have made a better president than McCain or Obama? Fred Thompson? Duncan Hunter? Anybody? Even if none of those would have suited you, you could still have written in yourself. There’s nothing sinful about that.
Do the math. Scenario 1 (the one we’re currently in): Obama gets over 50% of the votes. Scenario 2: Obama and McCain get less than 50% apiece, with the remainder going to write-ins and third parties. Is there really any question which one would be instantly preferable?
By the way, Roland, this is just my two cents, but perhaps your efforts would be better deployed toward making sure the Republicans nominate some non-Quislings than in haranguing conservatives to vote Republican. If you succeed in the former, I think you’d have a much easier time with the latter. But that’s of course your call.
The Dems will get what they want and they will renege on every promise they made to the GOP. The cycle will continue and the Republicans will remain out of touch.
Roland said:
Yes, Steve, you screwed up badly. Obama gives you all of those things, too, and much, much more!
Right, McCain was such a champion of our Founding Principles.
Roland, keep voting for the lesser of two evils.
I’ll vote for Patriots.
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Great minds run together. The Charlie Brown, Lucy, and Football analogy came to mind even before I read Michelle Malkin’s words in the post.
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The right thing for Charlie to have done on his second attempt to kick the football was to run up and BOOT LUCY IN THE REAR END FOR A 50 YARD PUNT. She could hold on to the football to keep it legal. She would be holding a lot better on his subsequent punts–if she could move!
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Ditto for Senator John McCain when he spouts off on “Global (not) Warming”, Illegal Alien Shamnesty, etc. I respect his military service and courage as a prisoner in the Hanoi Hilton–but I think he took too many “hits in the noggin” during his captivity there. An Annapolis engineering graduate should think more clearly than he does.
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As far as third parties and pointless “feel good” voting for independents–even President Theodore Roosevelt and his Bullmoose party couldn’t pull out a win. Kick out the RINO’s and take back the GOP.
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John Bibb
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The Senatorial Class just seems to have this primal emotional need to make deals.
If someone brought in a bill that said that all Americans should have three toes cut off their left foot, McCain and his ilk would go to work and consider it a success if the resulting legislation just involved removal of the little toes on both feet.
Whatever one thinks of the current healthcare fiasco, there is a real problem in this country with the ’system’ of employer-tied health insurance and a patchwork of government programs.
There is no imminent problem necessitating a “climate-change” bill. The science is uncertain at best, there is no current evidence of widespread warming, there’s plenty of time to get this right.
Fifty years ago communism was the ideological evil, today it’s global governance.
Fifty years ago the USSR was the institutionalization of that ideology, today it’s the UN.
And we have, unfortunately, far more ‘moles’ now than we ever did in the latter half of the 20th century.
Two thoughts:
1. I’d be more concerned with the “Lucy & the Football” analogy if I thought that McCain and Graham really believed that the donks would ever seriously consider building more nuclear power plants. Nobody, no matter how delusional or naive, would put any faith in such a notion.
There may be another reason to toe-dance with the donks on Cap-n-Tax, but a compromise on nuclear energy is not one of them. Donks don’t do compromise; I think that even McCain has figured that out by now.
2. As far as the C-17 goes, the Air Force doesn’t want any more of them: they have all they think they need. What’s behind the legislation to keep building them is pork-barrel politics, not strategic planning or necessity (that being said, I wish McCain had been equally as unsuccessful in efforts to shut down F-22 production — something the Air Force definitely could use more of even if Robert Gates disagrees).
In an era of shrinking defense budgets, why not put that money into building replacements for our ancient KC-135 aerial refueling planes, something the Air Force desperately needs?
That would be hard for Steele to do since he is a RINO, too. I want him out as well as McLame.
First thing we need to do is to push to close our primaries to keep the dems from selecting our candidate.
Oink, we only have to put up with Leslie Grahnasty till 2015, hard to believe but that fence sitting gutless wonder was just re-elected.
It did not matter if McCain or Obama won the election, Rockefeller’s One World Order plan is right on schedule. Both parties have been infiltrated by CFR/Trilateral Commission elitists.
The Republican Party is currently run by Rockefeller CFR “Republicans”.
Until we purge these one World Government elitists from the party you will continue to get people like McCain,Lindsey Graham and the rest of the RNC elitists that will vote with the CFR One world Government elitists on the left.
Right now there is no difference in the two parties.
If we as Americans allow this illegal take over of our Government to continue we will indeed see the birth of the New World Order that Rockefeller has been trying to enact for the last 40 years.
McLame is up for election 2010 and has several opponents already–none of which can defeat him at this point. If JD Hayworth would run he would get it in a landslide–HOWEVER, in doing so he will have to go against the Arizona GOP Machine which puts him in the position of having to raise every dime the hard way $5.00 at a time because the AZGOP won’t commit any funds and neither will the NRC/Michael Steele.
Meantime, McAmnesty wants to change the GOP into his image and move the “party” more to the left. Just become a democrat McBama and be done with it.
Join your local Repub party and become a Precinct Committeeman or join the Caucus and bring conservativism back into the GOP reality. First principles and the Constitution vote for that and if it is the 3rd party candidate then forget the R’s and D’s and send a message.
you know they have to ’save the world’ as powerful as they are and everything.
If they didn’t save the world, they would consider themselves a disgrace.
zyzz; your nuclear comments are on point. if only we could convince our liberal leaders that electric cars run on electricity, which must come from somewhere, we might just move forward. but i’m convinced nancy thinks the electricity fairy sprinkles it from on high. she is getting confused because she KNOWS the dollar fairy sprinkles money from on high to fund every great dream she concocts. but if we are to run electric cars, we better build wind, solar, nuclear and water electricity plants as well as our existing natural gas plants and coal plants, because if every driver has to plug his/her car in every night, TILT.
*The clock has just about run out on the GOP; There is a world of opportunity out there going into 2010 and 2012, and RINO’s like McCain and Grahamnesty continue to be the face of the party; Implosion seems likely, surely followed by a peoples’ revolt; It will be left to us!
Reason 47662 I voted for someone other than McCain.
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This will be another split between the former ticket.
Run away Sarah, run from the RINO.
Why is it every time we hear the
GOPAmerican peopleisare being sold out, we can find these two morons?This is the republican party today….stand by (with a smile and kindly look) and watch FREEDOM go ….because we are better people than to fight for anything…be prepared to stand by (remember the smile) just a little smug and watch as others rule. We have much HOPE that the new rulers will also be better people, enough not to kill us all….