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1. #101
   On October 10th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, tampadave said:

   It was just announced in the Wall Street Journal On-Line that Great Britain is sending in 500 additional troops. Obama will send none, of course, because it may offend leftist Marxist pacifist weenies in San Francisco.

2. #102
   On October 10th, 2009 at 3:27 pm, Roland said:

   Tampadave, it appears the additional troops McChrystal wants are for the ‘winning hearts and minds’ strategy he has proposed, not for killing more al qaeda.

   It is an absurd strategy. Afghanistan tribal peasants who still don’t hate the Taliban or like us are not going to be persuaded to like us. Ever. We could give them each a million dollars, and they would just figure it shows how stupid we infidels are and how thoroughly we’ve already been dhimmified by aggressive jihadists like the taliban and al qaeda.

3. #103
   On October 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, ssnark said:

   On October 10th, 2009 at 9:29 am, graysonret said: in post #821285

   Ssnark, sortof like the old firebases and S&D missions, we had in ‘Nam, passing the initiative to the enemy. Not a good sign

   It wasn’t always that way. A year ago, before I retired, we were trying to win. Now, I think Gen. McChrystal is slowly pulling back troops to larger facilities where he can protect them better and preparing to be told to cede the countryside to the Taliban and prepare for a negotiated settlement. You remember, “Peace with honor.” you know the solution that then cuts funding for what little in the way of an effective army might exist and lets the government we once supported be swept aside. You may recall, the events that would lead to ‘re-education camps’ and ‘killing fields’. The one that the people who caused them would wring their hands in woe about?

   I’m glad I retired rather than see the ignominy that is about to come to pass. I’m also ashamed that I retired rather than live through it like my friends and comrades will. It took thirty years to bring back pride and strength to the Army. I pity those who will try to rebuild it this time.

4. #104
   On October 11th, 2009 at 5:43 am, radio relay said:

   On October 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm, ssnark said:

   On October 10th, 2009 at 9:29 am, graysonret said: in post #821285

   Ssnark, sortof like the old firebases and S&D missions, we had in ‘Nam, passing the initiative to the enemy. Not a good sign

   It wasn’t always that way. A year ago, before I retired, we were trying to win. Now, I think Gen. McChrystal is slowly pulling back troops to larger facilities where he can protect them better and preparing to be told to cede the countryside to the Taliban and prepare for a negotiated settlement. You remember, “Peace with honor.” you know the solution that then cuts funding for what little in the way of an effective army might exist and lets the government we once supported be swept aside. You may recall, the events that would lead to ‘re-education camps’ and ‘killing fields’. The one that the people who caused them would wring their hands in woe about?

   I’m glad I retired rather than see the ignominy that is about to come to pass. I’m also ashamed that I retired rather than live through it like my friends and comrades will. It took thirty years to bring back pride and strength to the Army. I pity those who will try to rebuild it this time.

   It wasn’t always that way in Vietnam either. ’68 Tet destroyed the Viet Cong, and pretty much wiped out a couple NVA divisions. It was a terrible blow to the communists. Giap wanted to call it quits, but Ho Chi Min wouldn’t let him. Ho counseled that the left in the U.S. would eventually win the war for them.

   The Taliban have studied history and learned well. They see that the left will win their war for them, too. Especially, now that the president is a vain, limp dick fool!

   The next thing you Afghanistan and Iraq War Vets have to look forward to is the leftwing propagandist media to chart chortling over how “you” lost to a valiant enemy.

   I think it will take longer than thirty years to bring us back from the damage that Obama and the democrats are inflicting on the U.S.A. If indeed, we can ever recover from it.

5. #105
   On October 11th, 2009 at 9:15 am, Dimsdale said:

   On October 10th, 2009 at 4:59 am, RetFireman said:

   Hooray!!!! Another victory for our Nobel Peace Prize Winning Glorious Leader!!!!

   Bringing the world peace through total and complete capitulation and appeasement. Yes, someone this nation can truly be proud of…the smartest man ever to sit in the Oval Office and someone we can all hold up for our children to emulate. Yes, truly he is The One as prophesied from long ago. Soon, even Israel and all the Jews will no longer be searching for their Messiah as he proves time and again in word and deed that he is the one they have been waiting for all these thousands of years, and even the Muslims will come to see him as the Mahdi they look for.

   Peace in our time!!!! Peace in our time!!!!

   Anyone else beginning to give serious thought to who the third person was that Nostradamus predicted?

   Or the twelfth imam….

6. #106
   On October 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pm, PBoilermaker said:

   On October 11th, 2009 at 5:43 am, radio relay said:
   I think it will take longer than thirty years to bring us back from the damage that Obama and the democrats are inflicting on the U.S.A. If indeed, we can ever recover from it.

   Sad and absolutely infuriating, but true.

7. #107
   On October 11th, 2009 at 2:19 pm, ssnark said:

   On October 11th, 2009 at 5:43 am, radio relay said: in post #821554

   The Taliban have studied history and learned well. They see that the left will win their war for them, too. Especially, now that the president is a vain, limp dick fool!

   The next thing you Afghanistan and Iraq War Vets have to look forward to is the leftwing propagandist media to chart chortling over how “you” lost to a valiant enemy.

   I think it will take longer than thirty years to bring us back from the damage that Obama and the democrats are inflicting on the U.S.A. If indeed, we can ever recover from it.

   Your comments on how Tet broke the back of the Vietcong and the opinions of Vo Nguyen Giap and Ho Chi Minh are true.

   Let’s hope that we have learned something from the past. Even if Mr. Obama failed to study or to learn the appropirate lessons from it.

   However, I fear you’ll be right should we withdraw from the global war that we are currently engaged in. Moreover, if we go to a defensive posture the price will not be paid as heavily by the military as it will by the civilian populace. I wonder who will be the scapegoat when a dirty bomb or quite possibly a small nuke detonate in a major metropolitan area?