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It’s been an eventful week.
The recognition of President Obama with the Nobel Peace Prize is significant. I fear where Obama’s foreign polices will lead. Indecisively
They say no senior intelligence officers are among the soldiers being held hostage in the latest Pakistan Attack. I was reading about this on Yahoo News also.
I don’t see why it takes many weeks David Axelrod to decide to increase troops in Afghanistan. How bad does it have to get before they get the need is urgent?
Seems the rhetorical question of whether Letterman would ridicule, and make fun of, himself has been answered.
Maybe The President will give the money from the Nobel Peace Prize to address the Violence on the South Side Of Chicago?
Wasn’t he community organizing on the south side of Chicago? That was really effective huh. Peace Prize unbelievable.
Since it’s the weegie parliament that declares these Nobel PP’s…I believe we must declare war on Norway due to their recurring belligerence against the US. I for one am boycotting all weegie products (which is remarkably easy), although I will continue to wear my LL Bean Norwegian Fisherman’s Sweater; I look stupid in it, and will be speaking in a fake Norwegian accent…to further sow the seeds of American’s forming hatred of the dread weegies.
To really hate another country, you need a derogatory term for them…I’m going with “weegies” feel free to join me. My apologies however, to the memory of the great Weegie, press photographer extraordinaire.
Have to rush through obamacare first so we’ll have it in 2013.
That military stuff can wait. It’s not like anyone is dying. At least no one important, like a Union worker or an Acorn pimp advisor or someone like that.
Gotta have your priorities. Just back from Copenhagen, and now the busy man is basking in the glory of his hard earned Peace Prize triumph.
Since this is an open thread, I just want to say I had a pacemaker installed in my heart this past Wednesday, and I’m extremely grateful to be here posting today. God is good.
Congrats, misterbee
He also answered the question, one more time of, “is he a scumbag?”
Hi guys, haven’t posted in a looooong time. It’s good to be back.
We are having a semi-annual hazardous waste recycling day here in Passaic County, NJ today so I took a bunch of old started cans of oil based paints, old lawn chemicals and other mysterious stuff that I’ve had in my garage forever. Glad to be rid of it.
My house here in “The Peoples Republic of NJ”…..DUMP CORZINE…… is on the market, not much action
. I am escaping to the Salt Lake Valley of Utah. Beautiful country. I’m leaving property taxes in NJ of $11,000.00 per year. And will be paying property taxes in Utah of $2,185.00. Utah house is actually newer and nicer. I’m luvin it.
Can we mention the unmentionable in an open thread? Since I am a proud “birther” and you won’t see this anywhere else, I’ll mention that the most recent challenge to Obama’s eligibility wasn’t thrown out due to “lack of standing.” Lack of standing, of course, means Obama is above the law. The trial is scheduled for mid January. Granted, a lot can happen between now and then, but the issue that would be covered 24/7 if it were any other president now has a slim chance of being judged on it’s merits, something your DOJ will be using your tax dollars fighting hard to prevent.
Yes, He is! Glad you’re still around, best of health to you.
Jaycee Lee Dugard and the Middle East Islamists.
Jaycee had 11 years of freedom before she was abducted and yet she still came to a place in her psyche that no longer allowed her to think to or try to run away to regain that freedom. She eventually even got to a point where she was working along side of and helping her captors.
Most of us don’t think less of her for it. So why should we think that in a hellish Islamic society where women and children are captives from birth and have never known any kind of freedom, that they would be any different from Jaycee Dugard in not turning on their captors?
And knowing this small piece Jaycee’s relationship to her captors, does anyone believe it would have been acceptable, if she was located in that house, for a police swat team to storm the place and risk her life or the lives of her children in order to liberate her from her captors since she herself passed on every opportunity?
Does anyone remember watching the so-called attempted rescue of Patty Hearst in real time on live TV?
I’m still trying to figure out what “dear leader” did in his first twelve days in office to deserve this no longer prestigious award. After all it has gone to such great humanitarians like the innocent killing terrorist Yasser Arafat and the clueless America hating Jimmah “peanut brain” Carter.
I dont plan on doing anything today , so can i get a Nobel prize too ?
It looks like that Hardin, MT jail deal is off – for good:
Company run by ex-con drops Montana jail plan
It’s 56 degrees out right now. Will somebody please hurry up with that global warming??
No, but if you plan on…say, finding a cure for cancer a few years from now you can a Nobel now……good intentions are OK, actually doing something is not important.
txvet2,
I know what you mean. I am near Corpus Christi and it is 62 here now. I don’t do cold weather very well. I realize people up north are really cold and snow. I feel for ALL of you!
misterbee241,
I hope you continue to be in good health. Yes, God is good!
L
Texvet2 its 37 degrees in the middle of nowhere Idaho with snow on our surrounding mountains due to last weekend’s unseasonable 2 days of cold rain and snow with more scheduled to hit us tomorrow. We sure could use some of that Gorebull warming too!
I plan on world peace, and ending world hunger, and human rights, and ending homelessness, and free health care for anyone who needs it, and changing the weather to stop global warming, and monetary damages to Indians, and 40 acres and a mule, and no more wars, and ..band camp…
Now if someone will just give me the money to accomplish all this. I know, but my intentions are good.
Am I the only one who is unhappy/concerned with the GM sale of Hummer to the Chinese? (and at the rock bottom price of 150M) Does this sound like bad idea to anyone else (once again spawned by a government-owned entity)?
So is the price for the Chinese to support the dollar: the flag at the White House (a few weeks ago), the light color change in ‘honor’ of the Chinese Communist Revolution, the snubbing of the Dalai Lama, and the sale of Hummer? What’s next? What else don’t we know about?
I’m sure some other astute readers can list some other items I’ve missed…
This is why I don’t think that Americans will fight when the Obamanistas come for their homestead property.
The police already have the right to take our property without any due process.
Just because it’s all in the name of the war on drugs instead of the war on poverty doesn’t make it any more morally palatable.
More capitulation to Muslims in Europe. Ain’t that a shocker?
More shameless plugging:
What is your opinion concerning the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate’s, President Barack Obama, unprovoked attack on the moon? Non-scientists apparently weren’t too impressed with the show.
12:54 pm, txvet2 said:
I am with you , it hit 50 at 1:00 to day. Am in central NY.No summer this year.
It really isn’t anymore…look at the kooks that have won lately…Al the Bore, jimmy peanut, Aerofat and the other freedom hating kooks.
A few decades ago it was something to be admired and respected, then like everything else that went sour the lefties got their grubby fingers in it.
Looks like we’re finally getting some traction (even an iota is encouraging!) on tort reform: Tort Reform Reduces Federal Deficit, Congressional Analysts Say
The latest details to emerge from the vapor now say benefits under Obamacare would not begin until 2013, but the taxes and cuts would start right away.
So – here’s the thing: How ’bout we work on “reforming” the federal regulations on insurers that quash competition across state lines while we’re waiting? I mean, why not try something that would cost the taxpayer nothing, and would deliver benefits much sooner than 2013? It seems only right that the government should fix something it broke in the first place, no?
It’s cold here in Chicago today.
Here’s a quote I came across on facebook this morning:
“You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”*
* Adrian Rogers, 1931
Obama should refuse the Nobel prize on the grounds that:
Arafat was a recipient
and
He hasn’t done a damn thing for peace.
and
to stick it Europe for the Olympics fiasco
and
to stick it to the Norwegians for politicizing and ruining what could and should be a prestigous honor.
That is all. Have a nice day.
MOC
Fuhgetaboudit, you’re talking about the law here. Common sense doesn’t apply.
Uh, oh. If this is accurate and true,:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125512918970277033.html
“The emerging belief that the two onetime allies should be treated differently is the reason that some senior administration officials are coalescing around an alternative proposal that would keep U.S. troop levels roughly constant while refocusing the broader American mission in Afghanistan on killing individual al Qaeda leaders rather than protecting the Afghan population.”
…. then for the first time this year I may find myself possibly agreeing with Obama against his critics.
Sending more troops into the grinder to try to protect the Afghanistan civilians to try win their hearts and minds appears to be McChrystal’s clueless idea (along with the inexcusable ROE) and the delay appears to have to do with Biden’s recognition of how wrongheaded it is.
We are there to kill al qaeda and its enablers, not to protect a civilian population that won’t turn on the Taliban. We shouldn’t be there to try to make friends. We should be there to make war.
This is why socialism fails. Some nations had to “hold a gun to their citizens’ heads” in order to get anything done. They failed too. I remember reading about Jamestown, and how reverse socialism didn’t work either: the “rich” didn’t work, while the poor worked to support them. John Smith put an end to that. If there isn’t any incentive or reward, why bother? It’s plain human/animal nature. Too many people dream up excuses as to why they can’t do things, and the government, in order to obtain power, profit and votes, hears them.
Bad comparison, simcoe, since she was out in public (e.g. dealing with Garrido’s – her captor – printing customers) and, in fact, she was freed when Garrido brought his wife, her & the children to a meeting with his parole officer.
There were plenty of opportunities to just walk up to them and settle things with zero problems. The only problem was that the authorities didn’t investigation him, even in 2006 when a neighbor called 911 to report the situation at Garrido’s place.
I’m not arguing against the substance of whatever point you were making, just pointing out that you used a faulty analogy.
Obama should divide the money between all the other nominees.
Better yet, turn down the prize and have it awarded to “Everyobe but Obama.”
That’s great news, MrBee – congrats. Now you can keep pace with the rest of us (my awful pun for the day).
Take good care of yourself!
Contending with Global Warming today. Today’s HIGH is supposed to be four degrees LESS than the normal daily LOW.
Paging the “Climate Change Police.”
Even the BBC is cornered into confessing they are perplexed, Flyman.
What happened to global warming?
I hear now that Nobel Prizes are going to be put into every other box of Crackerjacks. That way everybody can be rewarded for their “good intentions” rather than receive awards for monumental accomplishments.
New question when you make an order at McDonalds: “Would you like a Nobel Prize with your Big Mac?”
I know how Flyover feels. Our earliest measurable snow in 39 years fell early this morning, and I cross country skied twice. North Platte, Nebraska had a record 13.8 inches with 15 in the city and 17 inches nearby.
Maybe Al Gore who won a prize based on his telling us we were solely responsible for heating the earth should return his Nobel Prize.
I was musing today about the U.S. Congress’s penchant for passing new laws, and wondered how many laws on the books are NOT enforced? And then, why not?
The only three possibilities I cound come up with was, 1) lack of manpower, 2) politics, and 3) the laws were/are outdated.
So, if the problem is manpower, why would you pass laws you know cannot be adequately enforced? Why pass laws that are simply window dressing to make people think you’re doing your job? And, finally, if the laws are outdated, why not do something worthwhile, like repealing them, and getting them off the books?
Have you seen a lawyer’s law library lately?
Ditto.
Moreover, Jaycee and her children needed to be rescued, whether she believed they did or not.
Life is funny.
We got TV shows that cheer on eco-fanatics who act like modern pirates to stop whaling, and a show where Hell’s Angels wannabees are knocking down doors and fences to rescue cute kitty cats, yet they won’t even think of doing a show on mercenaries in Iraq and Afghanstan who are trying to stamp out women-hating zealots out to kill us all. Is there something wrong in TV land or is it me??
James Greenidge
Queens NY
As the current Nobel Joke Prize recipient, and U.S. CIC with war decisions to make, will the world ultimately view Obama as;
A man of his word, or
a man of words?
I hereby nominate the American Military for a Nobel Peace Prize since the average Sailor/Soldier/Airman/Coast Guardsman and Marine has done more in a four hitch for the cause of peace than the KBPOTUS will ever do in his life.
GSP
Great quote, moc23! Two more great ones I read/heard today:
On the Nobel prize: “Carter, Gore, and Obama. That’s like the Mount Rushmore of shut-the-hell-up!” – from redstateupdate.com and quoted by instapundit.com
On Obama’s Afghanistan policy versus his domestic policy: “Why squander your presidency on trying to turn an economically moribund feudal backwater into a functioning nation state when you can turn a functioning nation state into an economically moribund feudal backwater?” – from the brilliant Mark Steyn at National Review online
In case anybody is interested and lives in OK or near OKC… Mike Church (Sirius Patriot show host) will be speaking at the OKC 9/12 project BBQ fund raiser on 24 Oct…Check their website for info…some yummy OKC BBQ and a great speaker….Mike is very much versed in the Constitution and the founding fathers…
http://www.okc912project.com/node/58
I’m glad you were able to get that before the government got the power to tell you you couldn’t.
misterbee241, congrates to you with many good years ahead for you and yours.
He is only a man of words. He has no experience in a major political office or foreign affairs. As I knew he would be, before the election, he’s over his head. What does he do? He hires all these “czars” (losers) to advise him. He’s got a VP who needs mental health counseling, and a Speaker, who seems to live in a fantasy world, along with Reid. He doesn’t know what to do. People write his speeches and he uses a teleprompter to say them. In other words, he’s so weak that Europe is delighted in seeing him downgrade the U.S., to their benefit, hence the Nobel Prize. His so-called “advisors” are pulling at him in all directions. He is a man without decisions. Didn’t he announce in March, a “new strategy” for Afghanistan? What happened? You can’t organize the world, based on Chicago. It will overwhelm him.
How can you be the leader of a country that is at war with people around the world and receive a Peace prize? Are they trying to influence his decision making?
A real man of peace would immediately put an end to the war in Iraq & Afghanistan.
Of course, that same man of peace would therefore doom thousands if not hundreds of thousands to retribution at the hands of Al Qaeda. And that won’t turn out good for them.
Are peace and deaths compatible?
And he will blame them later when things do not work out. And I have news for him. They won’t.
Heres some advice that could help.
Cut & Run!
No, not cut the cheese and get the runs.
Cut taxes and run the Taliban out of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I might also add to take some resonsibility and stop blaming others.
Every once and awhile, a democrat has a good idea.
Now is the time to demand of legislators that no bill shall be passed unless it can be read, and understood by the average American.
On Global Warming. Once long ago, my geology professor said, “In order to have an ice age, it must warm.” The artic is a classical desert, less than 8-inches of percipitation annually. and for glacers to form, more water has to be evaportated from the oceans…meaning warmer temperatures.
I’d rather have the shoe that was thrown at President Bush then Obama’s prize.
In this world I’d much rather have a leader with some clearly defined enemies then a leader who wants to get along with everyone.
From my politics blog: Sweden is condoning the horrific Goldstone report. Don’t buy any Volvos, Saabs or Scanias.
From my comics blog: recently, anti-war storytelling cropped up in Superman’s “New Krypton” storyline.
And, from my game blog: a playthrough of Nam 1975.
SupportandDefend said:
Am I the only one who is unhappy/concerned with the GM sale of Hummer–Having been a management employee of Mr. Ed Whitacare’s previous company SBC, I saw Mr. Ed take the stock from $72/share to $20/share almost overnight in 2000, and it has never rebounded – but we did buy every telephone company in the world.
somehow I think that the Feb peace prize decision date was somehow bypassed and the real decision was made after his world apology tour and in recent days not in February as was indicated…
Actually, I commented on the potential sale of Hummer to the Chinese company here.
A typically excellent David Warren column noted by Kate at small dead animals.
“Chamberlain should have got one, too,”
Heh…
This Sunday, the Pope will canonize five new saints, including one from Hawaii. Wait, what? After only eight months in office?
I found this very upseting, from numbers USA.EVANGELICALS: Your Leaders Endorsed Mass Amnesty Today. and the The Salvation Army to.
Speaking of global warming, the Phils-Rocks playoff game has been postponed until tomorrow night.
SHUT UP AL BORE!!!
…along with playing punkinball again with a bunch of “Crats.
Whenever the drive-bys are forced to report on the situation in Af’stan, they always make it sound as if he and his “war council” are working so hard on trying to figure out what to do there.
Nice to see that jackass playing games while good men are dying.
It was in the 20s here in Wisconsin today and snowing this morning.
This just supports my theory that the eco-wackos have gone too far in preventing Gorebull warming and we are heading into an ice age.
I predict we will have thousands dead from freezing to death by 2015.
Both my theory and prediction have as much credibility as alGore and his Gorebull warming religion, and with just a few million from a givernment grant, I think I can I can prove it.
So this is why Obama is delaying sending more troops to Af’stan. He wants to wait for more recruits I bet.
I hate Obama soooo much.. sigh
This will tug at patriotic heartstrings.
Sign of hope–all the young people in the crowd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmO2Zm0Ugs
Why won’t press question Bloomberg gun show motives?
Has anyone read Glenn Beck’s new book, “Arguing with
DemocratsIdiots”? Just curious what people’s reactions were.Recently I watched a video where Penn Gillette praised (yes, they are friends) Glenn as our times answer to Abbie Hoffman. I confess I kind of like that.
13 more months until democrats are sent scurrying like so many cockroaches, when Repub and indie voters turn the lights on.
The past couple of weeks have been comedy gold what with the Olympics, and the NPP. I had a lot of good laughs but now I am back to realizing our great country is in serious trouble.
Roland, for once I agree with you. The difference between the Taliban and AlQaeda as far as I am concerend is like comparing the Brownshirts to the SS. In the end we need to obliterate both without mercy and cut the bull around here especially with allowing Pakistan to remain untouched as a safe haven for these rogues.
Even Fox News seems to have been intimidated by the Obamabots from touching subjects that desperately need investigating. Something very unhealthly is going on and/or the Alinsky Rules for Radicals book is working even better than the left had hoped.
Very sad for America.
How ’bout those Washington Huskies?!!! Grabbing the football after it bounced off the foot of an Arizona player and running it in for the winning TD. Woof!!!
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/aleigh/2009/10/10/promising-pre-med-wins-nobel-prize-in-medicine/
response to simcoe #821336-who said:
well of course captives will fight with their captors since they have never know freedom. are you saying fighting to free them is useless?
response to “marco polo” #821358 who said:
please educate me as to ONE case -in the us – where this has happened.
Fusman, reminds me of a lady, back in June, up in Maryland. Son, 18, was driving her car, got caught with pot in the car, and she lost it to police auction, even though it was hers. Son served 60 days. He wasn’t a dealer, just a user. 2nd conviction. I don’t know the outcome of her relationship with her son, but if he was mine, I would have bought him a one-way ticket to California. Smoke all he wants there, and out of my hair and wallet.
A great way to get a Nobel is to claim that you are working on a way to do brain transplants – replacing conservative brain cells with liberal brain cells (I know, sounds like just dumping 50% would work) – using embryonic stem cells.
DING…DING…DING…WE HAVE A WINNER!
And congratulations to Michelle for making the front page of the Washington Post with the article In Today’s Viral World, Who Keeps a Civil Tongue? Amazingly, the Post even noted that folks were less than polite to the previous President, which implies that the editors were napping or the writer is going to be out of a job.
Just a open letter plea to businesses.
Please let’s leave Christmas in December — preferably after Thanksgiving (do schools even recognize why past the PC?) please? I’m not all that amused by seeing Jack O’Lanterns with long white beards and Santa hats here in NYC. It’s dismaying that too many kids only see Halloween to New Years as an extended melded “Holiday” instead of distinguishing the unique meaning of Thanksgiving and Christmas.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
Yes, God is indeed good…and so is the healthcare in this country!! May you have many many years of good health, thanks for our great doctors and hospitals!!
It is a beautiful day here in Minnesota. The half-inch of global warming that was on the ground yesterday is gone, and we won’t have any more until rush hour tomorrow, just in time for everyone who has forgotten how to drive in the winter to get out on the road and play bumper cars. One of the earliest snowfalls on record. It will be a looong winter!! But our Golden Gophers won their homecoming game yesterday…and the Vikings have Brett Favre. Life is good!!
Yes, because “God” is responsible for the success of your pacemaker operation, not, say, the doctors and surgeons at the hospital?
Do you think God may have had a hand in guiding the surgeons? or influenced them in some way?
I think misterbee241 is lucky (blessed?) he/she received the pacemaker now rather than getting the pain pill under ObamaNotCare, and if he/she takes comfort in believing God may have helped, that’s still certainly his/her right.
…for a little while longer anyway.
I think Barack might have overreached on the never-ending campaign. He is trying to set up continued support from the gay community. I think he’s trying to get the sound bites ready for 2010.
Just words. Just speeches.
John McCain weighs in on the tension between Steven Schmidt and Sarah Palin and her new book Going Rogue. This interview with John King of CNN.
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/10/john-mccain-lets-let-thousand-flowers.html
Omu…this is neither the time or the place to inject your atheist crap.
Yup, Scrapper, I don’t care that Omu waxes emotional and furious at God – but there are plenty of religious debate sites/anti-religious sites on which he he can take his bitterness out.
I am awarding myself a Nobel Peace prize for relocating a cricket to the outdoors instead of presenting it to my cat.
Well since it’s an open thread…
The company I drive for pulled me into the Dallas terminal a few days ago and had me turn in my truck. 330+ thousand miles in two years. Time to re-issue it to a solo driver.
They then issued me a brand new 387 Pete. Same model as what I had, with some updated features.
My purpose now though is to send a big, heartfelt, ‘thanks’ to the EPA and all the other eco-whackjobs out there.
Thanks for making such wonderful decisions and setting such realistic standards. I mean, even though when you set the standards, the technology didn’t exist to meet them. And to try and meet them has caused so many problems that one major engine manufacturer is no longer making engines for trucks. And another major engine manufacturer still hasn’t figured out how to make it all work yet. As in, don’t hit this switch at the right time and you can “do major engine damage”.
So thanks EPA and various other assorted scum of the “green” movement. Thanks for driving Cat out of the engine business for trucks. Thanks for leaving me with a Cummins. Which, while it’s generally a good engine, with all the new standards it has to meet has no power and is a nightmare waiting to happen.
Hey, Purplepeep…GO VIKINGS!! THEY ARE LOOKING GOOD!
Speaking of a “nightmare waiting to happen”, I feel the same way about the mercury-filled light bulbs. When all that mercury hits the landfills and seeps into our soil…can we THEN round up the environmental wackos and put them in cages where they belong? This country has been hijacked by the insane!! And by the way, I am stocking up on regular light bulbs when they are on sale so I never have to use those other things. We have enough bulbs to last our life expectancy…which is approximately another 25 years. We also have lots of extra lamps in case they want to make lamps that only accept the new bulbs!!
The light bulb thing is like the grocery bag thing. First we had to give up paper bags for plastic. Then plastic bags are bad so we go back to paper.
Incredible.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/10/11/wapo-puts-michelle-malkin-attack-page-1-don-t-ask-don-t-tell-repeal-page
The loony left is so totally out of control, they have no concept of truth. That newspaper is a perfect example. They just throw out their leftist drivel to see what sticks. Those of us who have a brain can see the delusion. But a lot of brain-dead morons actually buy into it. Thanks public school system.