Big Nanny Alert: The War on Hamburgers
Yes, really:
Hamburgers are an American passion. And millions of Americans consume burgers, and other forms of meat, every day without consequences.
Should Americans continue to make meat — and particularly hamburgers — part of their diet?
Should Americans continue to make meat — and particularly hamburgers — part of their diet?
But ground beef contaminated with E. coli bacteria has sickened, paralyzed and even killed some people who ate it.
On Monday night’s “Larry King Live,” a wide range of guests joined an in-depth and spirited debate to answer this question: Should meat, and most specifically hamburgers, be a part of the American diet?
The Big Nanny bureaucrats will have to pry the Sonic Bacon Cheeseburger from my cold, dead hands…
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I didn’t fight my way to the top of the food chain in order to have some pantywaist tell me what I can and cannot eat!
to have some pantywaist tell me what I can and cannot eat
That’s President Pantywaist to you! (/snark off)
Just wait until the Democrats and the one RINO get government-controlled health care into place. It’s all over. They vill tell you what you can eat. They have vays of seeing to it.
Say “Sieg Heil” to the nice people.
Nannyists know best!
They will have to pry anything with bacon from my cold, dead hands.
Larry King’s guests are now “Big Nanny”?
I’ll be damned if anyone gets between me and my In and Out Burger or better, my FatBurger-Burger. These idiots will not be happy until everyone eats tree bark and grass clippings.
Hey, just had a Sonic cheeseburger with jalapenos for lunch. Oh, yeah, a guilty pleasure for sure.
Mike’s Drive In in Oregon City has a Special Deluxe with everything plus a fried on top. (No pickles on mine, please) Ohhhh mannnnn. Add a milkshake and I won’t be hungry ’til dinner!
You beat me to it. I guess MM didn’t read enough of the link to realize there’s no one in government on this panel.
I wonder what Obama thinks on this subject…oh wait he is out at Five Guys getting another burger…..
I kid you not, one of the Portland (OR) city councilunits declared “Trees have rights, too.”
I guess we’re down to grass clippings.
Why in the HELL do so many people need people to tell them what to do? I am a grownup and can make my own decisions and take care of my self! I HATE liberals… and weak brained Americans.
People have died from fresh vegetables that are contaminated with e-coli bacteria, also. Particularly fresh lettuce and onions.
(Okay, now is when I plug the Chicken Fried Steak sandwich w/ Tater Tots at Del Rancho Drive-In.)
You can sell any new regulation to a nation comprised of innumerate paranoiacs…
fact is probably far fewer folks are catching e coli these days than any time in recent U.S. history, forget about around the world…
your chances of getting dead from eating a burger are probaby less likely than getting offed by lghtning, but since nobody seems capable of “doing the math” (likely because their schools only teach Obama 101.. plus the media’s got everyone sceered sheetless …
let’s BAN THE BURGER!
Hardee’s (or Carl’s Jr.) 2/3 lb. Monster Thickburger:
mmm.mmmmm.MMMMMMM!
Tell ya what, I have a list of little places from one end of the country to the other where I can stop and get an artery hardening cheeseburger. You come between me and my meat, and you’re liable to find yourself under my truck.
Oh – they mean the show is live, I thought, oh well, never mind….
They will pry the Big Mac out of my dead greasy fingers…
That’s what Larry calls Joy Behar when the cameras aren’t rolling.
The solution to E coli contamination (and other health risks from meat) is to eat organic meat from grass-fed animals that are slaughtered in small local abattoirs. This large-scale, industrial factory farming is what is to blame. I wouldn’t cry if every fast-food chain on this planet disappeared. The burgers I make at home with beef from my local cattle company taste better than any of that sh*t you can get at Sonic.
This is actually an important question that must be considered for the benefit of all.
I’m going to to go consider it tonight over a Kahuna Burger at Rumbi Island Grill. The best hamburger in Colorado Springs. 5 guys has nothing.
WrshpMzshn said:
Takes me back to one of the czars that said the human race should eat algae or some such thing.
Here are the 10 most dangerous foods, with respect to food borne illness, at least:
1. Leafy Greens
2. Eggs
3. Tuna
4. Oysters
5. Potatoes
6. Cheese
7. Ice Cream
8. Tomatoes
9. Sprouts
10. Berries
So maybe its not the ground beef killing you, but the toppings.
We could all move down to Texas where they have local grass fed beef and small scale abattoirs, if that would make you happy.
How many can your house sleep, again?
No, actually more like Big Ninny.
And by the way, that’s how policy comes into being. Pundits debate it, “experts” discuss it, national leaders state their wishes, bureaucrats determine the feasibility, legislatures create the law.
No matter how bad it is. Like Cap ‘n Tax (climate change) or The Gov’t Option (health care).
Wait and see…
Plants have rights. Pills with synthetic food is the future. BTW, will Obama appoint a “hamburger czar” soon?
Michelle O haz cheeseburger and the photogs are banned – so yes…
At the rate these clowns are going? Soilent Green is the future.
Next on their agenda: Convince lions,tigers and bears to stop being carnivores.
Nice tiger. Take that poor critter out of your mouth and give it to me. Tiger…tiger…TIGER! Agggh..
Oh, the joys of fantasies.
chapoutier, you can find it pretty much anywhere. Start with your local farmer’s market. It takes some looking, but to me, the health benefits are worth it (especially for my baby boy.)
“Bureaucrat” —does not equal— “Gov’t Official”
I guess you assumed too much.
Yes.
Oh, you meant the….
Reach for my burger, lose a finger.
Should Larry King Live be part of the American TV diet? Hell no!
Anyone going through Dundee, OR (or Bend? I cannot remember the other town’s name) needs to stop at Calamity Jane’s. Lots of random burgers. Basic ones with lettuce, tomato, and bacon to a hot fudge/marshmallow (hot fudge, marshmallow, beef, bun) or the ‘honey lovin’ jimmy carter peanut butter burger.’ Honey, peanut butter, beef, bun if you were wondering.
If our anointed elitist leaders continue down this road, we’ll all end up living as portrayed in the George Lucas movie, THX-1138.
Yes, I believe that’s correct. You may recall the Taco Bell incident a year or two ago. The issue was believed to be the green onions. Though I’m not certain what the ultimate source of the E.coli was.
I also remember reading a story about wild animals.. pigs maybe? running throught these crops and depositing their E.coli laden “stuff” all over the place. Sort of sounds feasible.
Are these food nanny wannabes vying for a new food czar position in the Obama administration?
Of course, the WH would be exempt from the nanny laws on food.
Potatoes? why are potatoes deadly?
Drunk irishmen will throw them at you.
I only got one word for Larry King and his idiot guests. Bacon! Bacon! Bacon!
..Um.. that’s three words, but you get my point.
Psycho: The name’s Francis Soyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I’ll kill you.
Leon: Ooooooh.
Psycho: You just made the list, buddy. And I don’t like nobody touching my meat. So just keep your meat-hooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my meat, I’ll kill you. Also, I don’t like nobody touching me. Now, any of you h*m*s touch me, and I’ll kill you.
Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.
The solution to any food contamination is to use cobalt irradiation (view the PDF document). It kills the bacteria. You know, those little critters that are way too small for the meat inspectors to see?
Unfortunately, the libtards in this country feel that hiring more
union workersinspectors will save us from E coli and salmonella.It’s a good thing science (you know, that thing that liberals claim they support?) is on the job and telling the truth.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
Does this include the juicy monster burgers I make at home?
here in South Carolina, we have a home grown version of the burger that is so delicious even Wendy’s had it on their menu at one time. They called it “The Carolina Classic”. What makes it awesome is it’s a chili cheeseburger with cole slaw…. as a topping . NOT on the side. We used to have a mom and pop grill in Camden that would would cook up a mountain of bugers at 9 or 10 AM and throw them over in a stock pot full of chili and let them simmer along till lunch time. Then fish them out to build bugers as they were ordered. If ever in Camden, SC, find Blackmon’s Little Midget (all the locals know where it is), and order up one of their chili cheeseburgers and add cole slaw! Fabulous!
Well, now I want a cheeseburger…
To add to the “where to find the best one” theme: McGuire’s Irish Pub and Grill in Pensacola, FL. The burger menu is quite extensive, but my personal favorite involves grilled vidalia onions and smoked gouda.
I refuse to surrender my love of beefy goodness to the bureaucrats!!!!!
That’s called “organic farming”.
Are you sure that wasn’t a Democrat junket of some sort?
TooMuchTime, yes, irradiation will take care of pathogens too. To me, a solution which makes more sense is to have meat produced under sanitary conditions where it’s not even an issue in the first place. This means ending huge factory farms where the animals are crowded and sick. Not only would this reduce the risk of food-borne pathogens, but all the other problems associated with eating meat. I also believe in treating animals humanely- which factory farms do not do.
However I am in agreement with most here that gov’t should stay out of these decisions. It has to come down to the consumers.
The interns at McDonalds sometimes hold them under the hot oil…
Has to be one of the best movies of all time.
Patchthebun: “Potatoes? Why are potatoes deadly?”
Chap: “Drunk Irishmen will throw them at you.”
Now that’s funny!!!
Whether it’s In-N-Out’s Double-Double in the Planet California or a Bacon Double at Five Guys here in Jacksonville, I will enjoy them while we still call this great Nation: America, land of the free and home of the brave!
Food police can go pound sand — or tofu, or whatever.
lol… it’s possible.
Cheddar,
Don’t forget the extra slices of Cheddar, Gouda, Provolone, and some shredded Parmesan to go with that bacon, bacon, and bacon burger.
OK, the size of Texas is 268,820 square miles, or 172,044,800 acres. According to 2008 census data, there are 304,059,724 people in America. At an average of 2.56 people per household (also 2008 census data), that makes 118,773,329 households. Divided into 172,044,800 the result is 1.49
So, move everybody into Texas and give each family 1.49 acres. That leaves the rest of the country to grow beef and vegetables (and corn to make ethanol fuel).
(/goofiness)
Anyone who assumes any meat of any kind is safe and consumes it without properly cooking it, runs the risk of illness, paralysis or death.
Og the caveman learned this 30,000 years ago, when he started cooking his meat.
I had a friend who LOVED steak tartar. His luck ran out and it killed him.
“Life is tough; it’s tougher when you’re stupid.”
Eeeeewwwww!
Ah, I want to try that so bad. Only problem is, haven’t found a place I trust that much yet.
Always with the wild pig blaming…
You folks do know that E. coli is found in the human gut, right? And you know what these ‘farmers’ use for fertilizer? I think the Chinese call it ‘night soil’.
LOL
I will give serious thought to the Burger Police when I BBQ a Brisket this weekend –
“The Big Nanny bureaucrats . . .”
Huh?
Went to the linked article and did not notice any bureaucrats taking part in the Larry King led discussion. Yep, there were advocates who support the removal of ground beef from the American diet, but no bureaucrats.
Is this an example of conflating independant advocates with bureacrats? Kind of like the White House conflating Fox news with Fox opinion? Next will be the speculation, conjecture and assigning motive. Not to mention the mischaracterization and misrepresentation of the facts.
It’s OK, every one does it. Right?
OH, and for the record, make mine medium rare with bleu cheese, tomato and raw onion.
We will have to start eating wike those pesky, wascally wabbits .
Ornish-style vegan diets for everybody!
’nuff said.
Of course you get more disease from fresh fruit and veggies – they’re not cooked.
Cooking kills just about every foodborne bacteria and most meat is cooked. You just have to be careful with ground meat and cook it thoroughly. If you want it ‘pink’ or ‘red’, eat steak where the bacteria is only on the outside.
This is what’s known as a “trial balloon”; get a few “non-governmental” guests talking about it and see the reaction, both from the ignoramus public and the Congress.
If they were talking about banning LOUSY hamburgers, I could get behind that – nothing but the good stuff for my digestive tract!
Flyoverman: Your friend should have stayed away from the tartar sauce — that is likely what did him in!
Hat Tip to the Allstate commercial.
Leela: “Animals eat other animals. It’s nature.”
Free Waterfall Junior: “No it isn’t. We taught a lion to eat tofu.”
Lion: *cough* *pause* *cough*
So could we have a burger protest day, e.g. the 100-Million Burger Munch? We could send any toys or tie-ins we get to Congress or you-know-who.
DITTO THAT!
Ted Nugent declares, “Meat is food. Case closed.”
Well, just buns, lettuce, and tomatoes on the charcol grill wouldn’t be very good.
Besides, one thing I’ve learned in my 43 years is, “You can live to be 100 by never doing anything to make you even WANT to live to be 100.”
Pass the ketchup.
They hold drunken Irishmen under hot oil? That’s horrible!
I recall that, within the last year or so, an outbreak of e-coli deaths was traced to “organic spinach”….so keep your bloody hands off my Juicy Lucy, you pencil-pushers!
Liberal Wimpy says: “I would like a tofu burger today for which I would gladly pay you…no, wait. I should not have to pay you for that burger. I am entitled to tofu.”
True, this was just the usual suspects whining about about Americans eating habits. But this is a crisis that can no longer be ignored! Numerous studies have shown that hamburgers are directly responsible for at least a third of all medical costs, half of all missed work days and as much as 80% of Global Warming. Time for Obama, the FDA and trial lawyers to take a stand against Big Hamburger. Your childrens future depend on it.
Oh and I’ll raise your Sonic bacon burger with a Ron’s Special, complete with 1/3 lb of hamburger, ham AND bacon. Yum, yum, yum.
I like the burgers at Sonic, for the price and the convenience it’s an excellent value.
So it the foot-long chile dog, etc.,etc.
95% of all people that died ate a carrot.
Red State Skeptic, you haven’t joined up yet?
Werid.
Going along with the idea of evolution for the moment, for over 90 million years, humans, like any other animal species, developed a TASTE for what food to eat. Taste and smell are genetically programmed into us and meat tastes good because it has been a substantial part of our diet for a very long time; not soy beans – MEAT. Meat is the easiest food to digest, provides the most balanced nutrition from a single source, is the most concentrated form of protein and fat available together and is the generally the quickest food available in ALL seasons.
So liberal morons, if we aren’t supposed to eat meat then why does it taste so good and why do we have the teeth to eat it? We evolved to eat meat but liberals are so arrogant that they think they can even overrule our genetics.
(Hmmm? Streisand is selling a full length fox fur coat; looks like it managed to dodge PETA paint balls huh? #108 on page 68 )
BOB: Is that anything like an inch-deep serving of peruvian pesto?
Veggies are what food eats before being made into burgers.
I am tired of everybody else crusading on my behalf. I don’t recall appointing anyone to run my exercise program, diet, sleeping habits, cell phone use, computer use or any number of other aspects of my life.
But self-appointed nannies/ninnies are everywhere and seem to know how to live my life better than I do!
Even worse, we now have government appointed nannies/ninnies that think I need to be told how to cough, when to cough and where to cough and that I suddenly need remedial instructions on when, where and how to wash my hands and they will do it in Spanish!
I got the basics of washing my hands and coughing in kindergarten way back before the NEA ruined education in this country.
GO AWAY! SHUT UP! LEAVE ME ALONE!
MY LIFE IS MY LIFE AND NOT YOUR!
Why is this so freakin’ difficult for these people to understand?
DwithD: She actually had ordered a faux fur coat, but the store got it wrong — NOT her fault and they couldn’t find the fox to give it back. Soooooo SAD!
Animals! It’s what’s for dinner!
The Nuge can’t be wrong!
PETA:
People Eating Tasty Animals
100% of people who ate a carrot died (or will die) as well!
Mom: “Eat your vegetables, it’ll put color in your cheeks!”
Me: “Who the heck wants green cheeks?!”
Oh, NO! I had a carrot at lunch!
Recall what PETA did to Mike Doughney back in 1996. Instead of PAYING him to buy the domain name ‘peta dot org’ from him, they probably spent more in lawyer bills to shake him down for it. They had their acronym and he had his acronym but for some reason theirs was more equal than his in court.
We’re going to have to get you to Culver’s. They’re far better than Sonic, and there’s even a few around Colorado Springs.
My sentiments exactly. Cheeseburgers are not my reason for living, but they sure are a major part of my enjoyment of living.
Reading all these posts about hamburgers made me hungry. I think I’ll keep the casserole, in the ‘frig, at work, and take dinner break at Burger King down the street. Thanks, Larry King, for a great meal idea.
Doughney was a notorious cybersquatter. He owned like 50 other domain names of legitimate organizations and then claimed he was setting up real entities. Never mind that he never did, or made any attempt to. PETA had trademark protection and this guy was looking for a buck, not to parody.
I can’t really laugh over this issue; earlier this year New York-1 cable news in NY reported how the NYC City Council’s been encouraged under the push of mega-nannystater mayor Bloomberg to propose soy-substitute ALL meat products in City-funded educational facilities — from public primarily schools clear up to City University and John Jay cafeterias. They already have on the table a proposal to ban ALL soda machines off said property. I DON’T laugh because it was this same bunch that forced all restaurants here to hand and stamp food calories info on the menus and food wrappers — which was a “compromise”! In back of this, primary and junior high teachers often toe the PETA line discussing “diet” and “humanity” to their pupils — straight from the lips of local childrens. No, I don’t any of this denial of choice is humorous, no more than anyone messing around with the 2nd amendment.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
Tex,
If you get rid of all of the large industrial farms, who will supply the demand? If supply goes down, prices go up.
Do you seriously think things would be better with 100 times more cattle farms that are smaller? From the research I’ve read, the larger operations have far fewer incidents of contamination per unit produced than the small operations have.
You’d have to have many more inspectors to cover the increase in the number of farms.
What do you suggest? What should the maximum number of people to be fed from a single livestock farm be?
You just made me very, very hungry. One of the greatest things about Georgia and the Carolinas is putting coleslaw on anything but a banana split. BBQ… burgers… and best of all, slaw dogs.
It’s getting harder and harder to laugh at this stuff.
I vote for Culver’s too. Great burgers. The mortician will have trouble getting the smile off my face if one kills me.