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1. #1
   On October 13th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, AlohaGuy said:

   No shots yet, if you all do, I won’t need. Besides, it’s you 32 year olds that need to worry, heh heh…

2. #2
   On October 13th, 2009 at 4:58 pm, Rob said:

   We get the flu shot every year. I got mine last week when my wife got hers…she is pregnant and they want her to get both types of flu shot. We have never had any bad reactions and we haven’t got the flu in YEARS.

3. #3
   On October 13th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, chapoutier said:

   I have never gotten a flu shot.

   Last year I got the flu for the first time since I can remember. I don’t regret not getting the shot.

   I really really hate needles. I can see someone’s limb get chopped off in a movie yet cringe whenever I see a character with an IV.

4. #4
   On October 13th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, chapoutier said:

   Besides, it’s you 32 year olds that need to worry, heh heh…

   Dang.

5. #5
   On October 13th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, backwoods conservative said:

   I’ve had no opportunity to get the flu shot this year. I would have no objection to taking the regular flu shot, which I’ve done many times over the years without problem, but I would decline the Swine flu vaccine.

6. #6
   On October 13th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, NeoFan said:

   Every time I get one I get sick. I will not be getting one this year.

7. #7
   On October 13th, 2009 at 5:02 pm, babiesgrandma said:

   My grandbabies (they were 11 and 10 a few years ago) got the flu Type B strain after going through the pain of getting Type A flu shots. Very scary. The shots aren’t infallible.

   This year, the local stores have run out of the common flu vaccine – no swine flu vaccine here yet.

   Probably won’t get one myself — still debating on the granddaughters (now teenager/tweenager).

8. #8
   On October 13th, 2009 at 5:04 pm, Flyoverman said:

   I got my annual regular flu shot today. Never had a problem and do not know of anyone who ever did.

   If DHS is correct and the H1N1 vaccine, especially the dead virus variety, was developed in the same manner as normal flu vaccine, I would not be worried about it either.

   I am not sure I need one as I had Asian flu and am likely immune to H1N1.

9. #9
   On October 13th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, sonofdy said:

   I will probably get one next drill for the swine flu. Already got the normal one.

10. #10
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, Lindsay said:

    Flu shot for us. We have gotten it yearly since getting influenza about 15 years ago, resulting in all missing a week’s worth of work or school. The vaccine is a dead virus, so anyone who says it gave them the flu was already exposed (don’t want to hear that one!). I take Advil for about a day following the shot, feel a bit tired sometimes, but otherwise have no problems.

    Regarding the Swine…don’t plan to at this point. A respected internist I know said he is having his college age kids obtain it. Others say it is no worse than regular flu. It appears to be worse for some children (those with asthma,etc) and not so bad for others.I do wonder if the virus will mutate and things get worse in this second “wave”, then I may regret not pushing for the vaccine.

    I saw a bit on the news last night, advising folks to take kids to the hospital if they have rapid breathing, are bluish in color, and stop drinking, or have symptoms return after apparently recovering. This sounds like common sense, right? But the message may help some.

    If anyone-adult or child- gets a high fever and body aches suddenly, after feeling great only hours before, it is an influenza- call your doctor or a walk-in clinic- do not go to an emergency room unless you have to. It is not normal for an adult to have a high fever–so it is probably the flu, although kids get high fevers with regular old viruses.

11. #11
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, roadrage said:

    If they want to give me that microscopic mind-control implant disguised as a vaccine, they’ll have to give it to my dead, tinfoil-hat-wearing corpse!!!

    Just kidding. I haven’t really decided yet.

12. #12
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, sonofdy said:

    I will probably get one next drill for the swine flu. Already got the normal one.

    Remind the medics to dull the officer’s needles.

13. #13
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:17 pm, Ron said:

    Had the seasonal flu shot, but no opportunity yet for H1N1. No regrets. Not sure whether I’ll get the latter. I’m just outside a target audience.

14. #14
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:20 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I got the normal seasonal via nasal mist. No reactions.

15. #15
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:24 pm, mom2jack said:

    I’m taking my 4 and 9-year old to the doctor on Wed to get the regular flu vaccine and we’ll discuss the pros and cons of the H1N1. In the past few years the only one in our family to get a flu shot is my daughter, simply because her birthday falls right in the middle of flu season so we just happen to be in the dr office for checkups. All of us (except my daughter) got the flu two years ago – I developed pneumonia which was awful. I would get a flu shot just to avoid going through that again.

16. #16
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, AlabamaMama said:

    No flu vaccines here, of either type. We generally make it through flu season without getting sick, so it’s not a high priority for us.

    I figure the flu shots we don’t get can go to someone else who needs it more.

17. #17
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, et said:

    Haven’t had one since Jimmy Carter was President. I see no reason to get either one now.

18. #18
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, 2cents said:

    Never have gotten a flu shot, never will. I trust my own white blood cells far more than any government-sponsored ‘vaccine’. Besides, H1N1 isn’t particularly fatal – from what I’ve read, it’s a nasty bug for a few days, but the only people who actually die ‘from’ it actually have another, more serious disease that likely caused most of the problems, and the H1N1 was simply an exacerbating factor. I think it’s a lot more hype than danger.

19. #19
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:30 pm, twofoot said:

    Only time in my life I ever got a flu vaccine I ended up with the flu. But this year, two of my children have tested positive for H1N1. And now I am starting to feel kind of like death warmed over.

20. #20
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Haven’t had one since Jimmy Carter was President. I see no reason to get either one now.

    The shot or Jimmy? I bet he still gives you chills and aches and a fever.

21. #21
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pm, 24Klady said:

    I’m scheduled to get the regular shot on Saturday at our church. My jury is still out whether I’ll take the H1N1 or not? I did have the Asian flu years ago and ended up with a respiratory infection. So bad, I couldn’t stand up without help.

22. #22
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, txvet2 said:

    Since you can’t buy them over the counter and I don’t believe in doctors, I won’t be getting them – or the flu. Had it once, didn’t like it, decided not to get it again.

23. #23
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:35 pm, jeffshultz said:

    I’m Army Reserve so it’s a requirement. Even so, I have a lot of customer interaction at my primary job, so they arrange for us to get them free if wanted. They’re trying to get the H1N1 this year too – clinic will be in a couple weeks.

24. #24
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, graysonret said:

    I’ve had to get the flu shot for years now. This year is no different; passing on the swine flu, though.

25. #25
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pm, jjmurphy said:

    Got the seasonal flu shot last week. Get it every year since last time I got the flu about 15 years ago I wound up in the ICU. I am NOT repeating that experience!

    Never have had any complications. My wife gets hers next week. I’ll probably get the H1N1 if it is available to me. I don’t buy into the “killer vaccines” hype. I have a great doctor (for now). If he recommends it, I will get it.

26. #26
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Haven’t gotten the flu shot and don’t plan to. I haven’t had a flu shot since I was a child and I’ve only had the flu twice as an adult and I’m 56 years old.

    I just don’t believe this flu is any different from other flu. The only thing that has changed is the world’s government need to create global crises to test their beta-version world government under the UN. In a typical year, about 35,000 people die of the flu in the US alone. How many people have died of the R2D2 flu in the past 12 months? 500? I’m more worried that our corrupt government will try to spread the flu via the vaccine itself.

    I’ll take my chances without the vaccine. I’ll be fine.

27. #27
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:41 pm, FruNobulux said:

    I usually don’t get ‘flu shots, but several years ago was convinced I should, as there were dire warnings for the season. Ironically, that was the only year in recent memory that I got sick.

    In my experience, Bourbon and cigars, if perhaps not as theoretically sound as vaccination, are certainly more pleasurable, and can be effective placebos.

28. #28
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    The only vaccine I need is another one of those cheesy greaseburgers.

29. #29
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, Freddy said:

    I have no idea why getting an h1n1 shot that is only 30% effective is a big deal either way. Many people are going to be disappointed when they figure out this part later on.

    Meantime, they are gonna be running late with the regular flu shots because of the production of the h1n1 shots. Do not bet that this will not cause more deaths then the h1n1 does.

    IMHO, they should have waited until they could have combined the h1n1 with the regular flu shot.

30. #30
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:43 pm, Bob69 said:

    Years ago I took three flu shots and each year had flu. Then I found out that these older shots had a live component in them. Attenuated. Since then have had flu shots every year since they all now contain no live component. My doctor advised against the nasal mist swine flu because it contains (he thinks) live virus. I will wait until it doesn’t then take the shot.

31. #31
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pm, BOB said:

    Years ago the flu shot could make you feel bad for a few days. I quit taking it and had the flu about 3 years ago. I thought I was gonna die. I now take the regular flu shot, and have not had the flu again…or any bad reaction from the shot itself. I would have no problem recommending taking the “seasonal” flu shot.

    Haven’t deceided yet on the swine flu shot, but I’m leaning toward not taking it since it seems to be a lot more prevalent in people a lot younger than I am.

32. #32
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pm, beenthere said:

    I got my flu shot last week as I do every year for the last 15 years at least. Cost $30 which I thought was a significant price jump. I won’t touch the H1N1 though.
    Have questions? Check out http://www.Fumento.com.

33. #33
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:48 pm, BlackFlag55 said:

    With a gun pointed at my children’s heads you couldn’t force my family to submit to this stuff. And the nasal mist contains squalene which is known to impair reproductive viability in humans.

    A true Army of Davids would be known for taking care of themselves instead of accepting the word of people and institutions you do not, in any way, know. Your trust level is mind-boggling.

34. #34
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm, happy_mama said:

    Give my kids (4 & 5) the regular flu shot every year. My husband usually gets one and this is the first year I got one in a while (previously missed the free doses at work). First – my kids bring home ALL sorts of germs. And second – my hubby is a professor (a conservative one at that!) and I’m a (conservative as well) college instructor so we’re around lots of flu-y college kids who do not make their health a priority. So we work really hard to avoid their germs.

    I asked my kids ped doctor when they got the regular flu shot about the H1N1 – I trust him with their lives. He is WONDERFUL – well read and consistently rated highly by other docs. And I shared that I was distrustful of the govt a smidge so I didn’t know what to make of the H1N1 vaccine. His LONG comments boiled to: yes there is a small risk with the vaccine – but the risk of the flu is way worse; the advances in vaccines are enormous since those “bad” ones for the swine flu in the 70s; and frankly – he remembered polio scares from way back that remind him about just how many lives are saved due to vaccines.

    So when H1N1 is available here – our family will be getting them too.

35. #35
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm, purealchemy said:

    Have never gotten one and don’t plan to get the new one.
    Most of the people I know who have gotten flu shots get sick with a cold or flu anyway. I’ve heard the viruses mutate faster than than science can keep up with them. Am needle phobic so I have to be really convinced I need a shot.
    If you feel a cold or flu is trying to get you, have a couple of strong gin and tonics with lime. That usually kills anything in its path.
    Tonic(quinine), gin(natural antibacterial qualities), lime (vit C)

36. #36
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:51 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I have never gotten a flu shot, ever.

37. #37
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:52 pm, Hangfire said:

    I haven’t gotten a flu shot since the I got out of the Navy in ’94.

    I haven’t had the flu since ’94.

38. #38
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:53 pm, ktownposse said:

    I also have never gotten a flu shot & never will knowingly.

39. #39
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:53 pm, tbear44 said:

    I’ve never had a flu shot and will never get one. Of course, I do not have any contact with humans for 9 months a year either. No flu, no colds! Sweet!

40. #40
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:53 pm, single stack said:

    The last flu shot I got was in 1976 during the first swine flu scare. I was in the AF and had to get it.
    I haven’t had a flu shot since and I’ve had the flu once, in 1989.

41. #41
    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:59 pm, EonTopaz10 said:

    Got a flu shot because I’m in the National Guard and I was told to. I’ve gotten flu shots for the last 16 years for the same reason (was active duty for 14 of it). Not planning on getting the swine flu vaccine. No one else in my family (wife, 2 daughters) are planning on getting either shot.

42. #42
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:02 pm, oregonelam said:

    Never had it…never will, lest I be denied the bliss of the Nyquil coma.

43. #43
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, Regulus said:

    Got a flu shot one time, back in 1988 courtesy of the US Army while on active duty for training. When I came home in 1989 one of my sisters got the flu and tried her best to give it to me; she was practically bed-ridden for 6 weeks, the most I felt was like I had a cold.

    Probably should get one on an annual basis, but never get around to it.

44. #44
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:04 pm, d1carter said:

    I have never gotten a flu shot.

45. #45
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:04 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    No. But my immune system is wonky. I go out of my way to risk getting it fired up.

46. #46
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:05 pm, ruffages said:

    I got the seasonal flu shot about a month ago. Didn’t take the kids and two of the four ended up with the flu, we think (not sure which one, the Drs office did NOT want them brought in). It lasted about 3 days so maybe it wasn’t the flu.

    Had the 2 non-sick vaccinated. Still need to get the two recovered in for theirs (if it wasn’t the flu…).

    Have no intention of taking H1N1.

    We do the shots (even the kids). Mist contains live virus and can shed to immuno-compromised people. And, it’s usually more expensive. We’re cheap.

47. #47
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pm, Hangfire said:

    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:03 pm, Regulus said:

    Probably should get one on an annual basis, but never get around to it.

    I was going to join Procrastinators Anonymous but I never got around to it.

48. #48
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:09 pm, graysonret said:

    The yearly influenza kills about 30,000 people in the U.S., every year. It’s usually a good idea to have a flu shot, especially immune suppressed and over 60 group. No, you can’t get the flu from the shot (regular flu shot). I will mention that “the flu” has been attributed to everything from a bad cold to an upper respiratory infection, to a sinus problem. It’s become common today to say “Oh, I had the flu”. Well, I doubt most of those cases. When you have “the flu”, you’re pretty much bedbound with chills, high fever, no appetite or energy, congestion maybe and nausea and vomiting. It can be quite serious if the temp. reaches 104. Over the weekend, we saw Kyle Busch wandering around and racing a car, with “the flu”. I don”t think so; probably a bad cold. Many times, “the flu” requires hospitalization. Those of you that have had the “real flu”, like I did once, know what happens. I was bedbound, pretty much, for 4 days. I didn’t go to the ER, promising I would if the temp. got to 104. It got to 103.8. My lovely nurse-wife, was out of town for the week, so I was alone. Being in the medical field, I figured to treat myself-most of us are like that. Of course, when my neighbor found out, and friends, I got lectured on using them to check on me. Sigh…okay, right. The swine flu shot is an option. I more concerned on how the regular influenza is going to hit this year, and how many get super ill and die.

49. #49
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:09 pm, Hadenough said:

    We don’t have access to the general public from our subterranean bunker. So no.

50. #50
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:16 pm, feebiebabe said:

    I’ve always chosen vaccination because of public transportation and working corporate offices with a lot of people (germs and sickness always seems to spread pretty quick in office buildings). That’s been my experience any way.

    If I had less of an exposure risk, I would probably pass on the shots/injections all together. But since that isn’t the case, I will be getting the regular shot this year.

    As far as H1N1 – I don’t think I will be doing that one. It’s too new. Due to my age (not really young or really old) I am not a high risk factor in terms of survivability. So I will probably pass on the H1N1.

51. #51
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:19 pm, tarpon said:

    Never get them …

52. #52
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:22 pm, Truesoldier said:

    My wife, four boys got the flu shot and I got the flu mist.

    As for the Swine flu vaccine, nope wont do it for my family. I have to question any vaccination that comes out so quickly.

    Not to mention, has anyone heard of any high ranking government official taking the vaccine yet? It is possible that they have and I missed seeing anything about it, but I would have to think that with the push Sebilius is doing for the swine flu vaccine you would think she would make sure that everyone knows that she got it in a very public way.

53. #53
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:29 pm, rambler said:

    Not even considering getting it. Have never gotten the annual flu shot. Can’t even remember the last time I got the flu. I won’t be forced into getting it either.

54. #54
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Dangers of squalene have been known since 1956 when Dr. Jules Freund, creator of this oil-based adjuvant, warned that animals injected with his formulation developed terrible, incurable conditions: allergic aspermatogenesis (stoppage of sperm production), experimental allergic encephalomyelitis (the animal version of MS), allergic neuritis (inflammation of the nerves that can lead to paralysis) and other severe autoimmune disorders.
    Squalene (MF 59) was added to the anthrax vaccine. This vaccine caused tens of thousands of U.S. Iraq Desert Storm soldiers to suffer permanent neurological damage called “Gulf War Illness.” (Jane Bergermeister, Adjuvants to be added to H1N1 vaccine by Baxter and WHO programme body for “endless loop of self-destruction, 2009)

    -Source

    I have personally met a 20 year-old male college student who was paralyzed by his body’s reaction to a flu shot (allergic neuritis), and he will spend the rest of his life in a wheel chair.

    I avoid the shots altogether. I think the risks far outweigh the potential benefits.

55. #55
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:31 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    By the way, when the grandbabies got sick with the flu (as mentioned above) they got the last doses of Tamiflu that were available in the area. It knocked it out fairly quickly.

    My in-laws used to get the flu shot every year, and every year, they got sick with a very, very bad cold, flu, etc. My hubby and I never get the shot (except when we were in the military in the late ’60′s), and hope to not contract the flu now. Even when the babies were sick, I held them and comforted them, and did not get the flu.

    Lots of hand washing, and cleaning out nostrils, will keep it somewhat at bay.

56. #56
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:32 pm, m0l0nlabe said:

    Limbaugh: “Screw you, Miss Sebelius, I am not going to” take H1N1 vaccine “precisely because you’re now telling me I must”

    Megadittos.

    Never got a flu shot. Likely never will.

57. #57
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:45 pm, John Deaux said:

    I figure that if enough people get the shot, then the flu won’t spread and I won’t get it. So keep getting those shots. I appreciate it.

58. #58
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:47 pm, rambler said:

    It costs a lot of money to develop new vaccines for those who truly need it. Without the general public being duped into getting the shots, the cost would be too high for the immunosuppressed. The public never gets all the info necessary to make an informed decision.

59. #59
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:52 pm, UrbanSpaceman said:

    I and my family got the flu shot this year, and have for many years. Why? Because I am diabetic, so “they” recommend that we all get shots.

    We have not gotten the Swine Flu shots yet, but probably will once they are available–none of us want to snort it.

60. #60
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:53 pm, calgirl said:

    Have absolutely, positively no intention of having the swine flu vaccination. I recommend taking Zicam at the first indication of flu symptom and “bam” it’s gone in 2 days. Zicam is homeopathic. The best thing to come along since sliced bread.

61. #61
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:55 pm, JohnnyNJ said:

    Got a flu shot and a pneumonia shot two weeks ago on the recommendation of my doctor(I’m 65).

    48 hours later I started feeling like crap and I still do. Trouble is I don’t know which one I had the reaction too. I believe it was the pneumonia shot.

    H1N1 shot I wouldn’t touch.

62. #62
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:56 pm, radio relay said:

    Got mine last week at the VA. First one I’ve had in about ten years.

    No particular feelings about it. One way or the other.

63. #63
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:57 pm, Little Ma said:

    I humor my doctor and get a flu shot every year, but I’m not going to get the swine flu shot. I’m too old. lol!

    Parents of young children have a difficult decision to make. It might be helpful to know that the nasal spray contains live virus.

    I had the flu when I was in the ninth grade, and missed two weeks of school. When I returned I discovered, to my horror, that you can’t miss two weeks of algebra and expect to catch up. To this day I’m more afraid of pi than I am of the flu.

64. #64
    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:58 pm, JohnnyNJ said:

    calgirl…..

    I agree, no more shots in the future. I like the product, Airborne as a preventative. I’ve used Zicam as well, also seems to work well.

65. #65
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:05 pm, IndyRich said:

    I got the seasonal flu shot about a week ago – no big deal, get it every year.

    I plan on getting the H1N1 when it’s available.

    That said, I’m in a group that is high risk for exposure. I’m an Advanced EMT working both in the 911 system and in the hospital. I think I owe it to the patients I come in contact with to take any and all precautions available to reduce the likelihood that I contract diseased and/or transmit them to those I care for regardless of any misgivings I may have for the vaccine.

    Yes, I also wash my hands alot…..

66. #66
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:08 pm, Fritz said:

    I always like to have a few eager guinea pigs sort it out before I dive in. I have tremendous confidence in the science and the manufacturing but I prefer to be fashionably late. We’re a long way from the subtle chemical engineering disaster that was Thalidomide.

67. #67
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:12 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Never had a flu shot. People tend to avoid me anyway (maybe it’s the crazed look in my eyes, maybe it’s from having the B.O. of meat and algae), so I think I’ll be okay.

68. #68
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:13 pm, justice said:

    Just got my “regular” flu shot last week and have had no problems. I’ve had a flu shot every year since 1996 when my husband started medical school. (As has my now 18 year-old son). None of us has ever had a problem (or the flu — and my husband brings home plenty of little “bugs” home from the hospital — despite frequent hand-washing).

69. #69
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:14 pm, bjc said:

    *I have never gotten a flu shot, and have lived to tell of it; Had the flu many times growing up, so feel somewhat safe; Have not had the flu in maybe 20 years.
    *I have also not hired a bus spotter for when I cross the street!
    *I plan on hanging around a good bit longer, lord willing.

70. #70
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:15 pm, justice said:

    [didn't finish the earlier post . . .]
    I had the flu in 1986 and couldn’t lift my head off my pillow for 3 days. Don’t want to go through that again!

71. #71
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:18 pm, beachmom said:

    None of our family of 5 has ever gotten a flu shot. None of us has ever had the flu.
    None of us is getting the h1n1 either.

72. #72
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:31 pm, cicerokid said:

    I’m taking doctor Gaddafi’s advice and getting the fish flu shot.

73. #73
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:32 pm, The Ugly American said:

    I’ve gotten a basic flu shot every year since I was in the service.

    I got the pneumococcal vaccine about 5 years ago and just received my annual flu shot 3 weeks ago.

    However, I think I’m going to pass on the Swine flu vaccine this year.

74. #74
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:38 pm, The Ugly American said:

    On October 13th, 2009 at 6:58 pm, JohnnyNJ said:

    I’ve used Zicam as well, also seems to work well.

    Just want to ensure that you’ve read this…

    FDA Issues Warning About Zicam

75. #75
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:44 pm, traveler49 said:

    I got the regular flu shot last week and noticed a growth on my back left shoulder. It has hair and at least one eyeball. I’m not sure yet but I think it might be my twin. That said, you know I won’t be getting the pig flu shot!

76. #76
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:48 pm, Reg.conservative said:

    We have Obama that said If gamma need a pacemaker give her a pill .
    One of his people said never let a good crises go to waste.
    Another one wrote a book about putting stuff in the water,for birth control.
    Every other time they have said the very young and very old should get the shots,but not this time.

77. #77
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:57 pm, NestingHawk said:

    Nope. Not particularly anti-vaccine and not afraid of needles. In the past, I’ve been much more prone to finicky sinuses than anything viral, for whatever reason, so I just tend not to get flu shots. I don’t think I’ve had one once. I think I’m in the target audience for H1N1 but not the regular shot. The last time a PA recommended a vaccine to me that smelled like a fad, I didn’t get it and later heard a study said that one caused the thing it was protecting against. If I were to be talked into either flu shot, it sounds like it would be the needle, not the mist.

    I have been introduced to the concept of using hand sanitizer in addition to hand soap, and am keeping an eye on my temp because I have more or less daily congestion and might otherwise not notice an initial symptom. Vitamin C is on hand.

    If you have sensitive skin, I suggest going for a hand sanitizer with the moisturizers and aloe vera and Vitamin E and whatnot. The CVS brand seems to work. If you’re sensitive to loads of cleaners and perfumes and colognes but not to ethyl alcohol, the CVS brand seems to work. I swear I do not work for CVS; I just happen to have those issues and like the hand sanitizer. I purchased it when I realized the stuff they put on tap at work was giving me a problem.

78. #78
    On October 13th, 2009 at 7:59 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    I’ve never gotten a gegular flu shot and I haven’t had the flu for more years than I can recall, (or at least gotten it bad enough so that I knew I had it).

    Concerning this H1N1 ‘vaccine’, I don’t think I’d take that either because I heard that it’s actually a subdued version of live virus to make you sick in order to build an immunity against the real thing.

79. #79
    On October 13th, 2009 at 8:09 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    A co-worker’s nephew fell ill on Tuesday, felt well enough on Wednesday to have his birthday party, went to the hospital that evening, and died on Thursday. He was 16 years old, and they confirmed that it was H1N1.

    I think we’ll all be getting both flu shots this year. (One of my daughters is a cafeteria cook for the school system, so she won’t have a choice. Neither will her family members.)

    ECS

80. #80
    On October 13th, 2009 at 8:19 pm, McCloud9 said:

    Michelle, I’m an RN into with 28 years experience. I have no intention of getting the swine flu vaccine. I will most likely get the seasonal flu shot.
    I don’t know how they could have safely tested it this quickly. Carol S

81. #81
    On October 13th, 2009 at 8:28 pm, Veretax said:

    I have and will never get the vaccinne

82. #82
    On October 13th, 2009 at 8:34 pm, purealchemy said:

    On October 13th, 2009 at 8:09 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:
    A co-worker’s nephew fell ill on Tuesday, felt well enough on Wednesday to have his birthday party, went to the hospital that evening, and died on Thursday. He was 16 years old, and they confirmed that it was H1N1

    Did he have any other preexisting conditions?

83. #83
    On October 13th, 2009 at 9:03 pm, atxcowgirl said:

    I have never gotten a flu shot and won’t be getting any kind this year. I have only had the flu once way back in ’90 or ’91. My parents get a flu shot every year but of course they are older.

84. #84
    On October 13th, 2009 at 9:05 pm, NJRepublican said:

    I have never gotten the flu shot and never will. And I will do everything in my power to make sure my 2 yr old never does.

85. #85
    On October 13th, 2009 at 9:05 pm, in_awe said:

    Getting both along with a pneumonia vaccination. My wife is immunocompromised due to leukemia, so I do everything possible to avoid serious illnesses like the flu or anything that affects the lungs (the top proximate cause of death for leukemia patients is pneumonia).

86. #86
    On October 13th, 2009 at 9:40 pm, Dandapani said:

    No plans on getting either flu shot, swine or regular.

87. #87
    On October 13th, 2009 at 9:45 pm, Buy Danish said:

    I got my seasonal flu shot last week. Get one every year, with zero side effects except for some tenderness at the shot location. I’ve had the flu badly twice as an adult – never again! It was horrible.

    My son was sick last week and Pediatrician thinks it may have been Swine Flu but didn’t bother testing because it’s unreliable. It wasn’t that bad – 102 fever max, achy knees, headache, cough, but over very quickly.

    Will probably get Swine Flu shot – don’t like the idea of the live vaccine in nasal spray (although that concern may be unfounded).

88. #88
    On October 13th, 2009 at 10:01 pm, southsideironworks said:

    Caught H1N1 when it first broke out, no biggie.

89. #89
    On October 13th, 2009 at 10:04 pm, Buy Danish said:

    On October 13th, 2009 at 8:09 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    A co-worker’s nephew fell ill on Tuesday, felt well enough on Wednesday to have his birthday party, went to the hospital that evening, and died on Thursday. He was 16 years old, and they confirmed that it was H1N1.

    Thanks for posting that! What a tragedy!

    I think there’s a lot of unfounded and dangerous hysteria about the h1N1 vaccine. It’s important that people realize that H1N1 can indeed be lethal, particularly for our youth.

    I heard a stat today that contrary to early theories, nearly half of deaths are from people with NO underlying health problems.

90. #90
    On October 13th, 2009 at 10:25 pm, aero said:

    The sky is falling. Lions and tigers and bears, Oh MY!

    No thanks.

91. #91
    On October 13th, 2009 at 10:25 pm, AniMEL said:

    I have already gotten the seasonal flu vaccine and will be getting the H1N1 vaccine this week. I’m an EMT, though, so it’s kinda important. Not only would I be at a high risk for catching either/or, but if I get sick I lose time at work and I can’t afford that (neither can my employer).

    I had zero side effects from the seasonal vaccine. My injection site didn’t even swell up. My friends who have already gotten the nasal spray for H1N1 have said so far they haven’t had much of any difficulty, except one who said his sinuses were getting a little congested.

92. #92
    On October 13th, 2009 at 11:20 pm, WarTip said:

    Last time I got a shot I was in the military. Not sure what it was (what any of them were for that matter) but I have not had one since.

93. #93
    On October 13th, 2009 at 11:43 pm, JDinTX said:

    My son and I have gotten the regular shot. The only time I got really sick with the flu is when I didn’t take the shot. I do not plan on getting the other one for swine flu though. I keep hearing too many bad stories.

94. #94
    On October 14th, 2009 at 12:13 am, mattymatt10 said:

    Not me. I got it in the military and that’s only cuz they forced me too.

    Swine flu doesn’t concern me. Not yet, anyway.

95. #95
    On October 14th, 2009 at 1:16 am, Common Sense said:

    My teen-aged daughter got the seasonal flu shot last week because with her exercise-induced asthma, she’s in the high-risk group. None of the rest of us have gotten it.

    She’s already been sick since school started, a bad cold turned into bacterial bronchitis.

    But no swine flu vaccine. For one, it’s not available, and two, knowing what happened in the 70s with the vaccine for a flu epidemic, I’m hesitant for her to be a guinea pig for a rushed-to-market vaccine for an overstated epidemic.

    They’re quick to count swine flu cases, 256 in Colorado so far, but not regular flu cases, far more than that I’m sure.

    The flu season has hit early and much harder than usual though. The elementary school a friend teaches at had 300 kids out last week and several schools in Fairplay were closed this week. The father of a band student has been in intensive care for almost 2 weeks and almost died Tues night from swine flu and double pneumonia. Fortunately, he turned the corner and will make it.

96. #96
    On October 14th, 2009 at 1:24 am, Common Sense said:

    I forgot to add that none of us have ever had a flu shot and my daughter didn’t until she developed asthma a couple of years ago.

    The last time I had the flu I was very sick, but it was 10 years ago. Now we’re in a bigger house where we don’t share bathrooms, something that’s kept me from catching most things from the kids. At work I’m not in close proximity to people, we’re caged in cubes or offices and meetings are generally brief. Plus, we all work from home when we’re sick to prevent spreading bugs. I’m also pretty paranoid about washing my hands before I touch my face.

    So far, so good. My parents though, get a flu shot every year.

97. #97
    On October 14th, 2009 at 8:21 am, SomeOtherSteve said:

    I say do it. This is why.

98. #98
    On October 14th, 2009 at 8:39 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On October 13th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, 2cents said:
    Never have gotten a flu shot, never will. I trust my own white blood cells far more than any government-sponsored ‘vaccine’.

    Therein lies the rub. Vaccines are just mutant strains. If the strain goes immune, you get an even nastier bug. Viruses are nasty bugs to begin with. To mess with them is a bad idea – period. Our bodies are designed to cope with them.

    A lot of posters attribute their not getting the flu to getting the shot. That is NO proof it worked as many of us, myself included, never get flu shots. Oh, I had the flu once and survived. I have not had it again and my immune system, compromised as it is from having had cancer, thanks me.

    I don’t want the new health care plan.
    I don’t want the Crap ‘n Tax.
    I don’t want CFL’s.
    I don’t want cash for clunkers.
    I don’t want bailouts……..

    The reason is obvious; the gooberment is pushing for it.

99. #99
    On October 14th, 2009 at 9:14 am, SomeOtherSteve said:

    Therein lies the rub. Vaccines are just mutant strains. If the strain goes immune, you get an even nastier bug. Viruses are nasty bugs to begin with. To mess with them is a bad idea – period. Our bodies are designed to cope with them.

    Let me note what you got right: NOTHING.

    Now let’s use facts:
    Vaccines are weakened or dead viruses. They ARE NOT mutant strains. They still have the protein signatures of live viruses, so when they are injected into the body, the body’s immune system learns what to look for and produce antibodies quickly enough to defend the host. A vaccine can be dangerous if it is not processed properly. Milk (and other food products) can also be dangerous if it is not processed properly.

    If a virus mutates enough, the protein signatures can change, meaning that the antibodies won’t know what to look for. That is a big part of the annual flu shot. The influenza virus mutates readily, so vaccines constantly need to be updated.

    While our immune systems can eventually learn to fight almost any virus, the problem is that sometimes it takes too much time, and the virus can overwhelm the host or open the host to other opportunistic infections. The use of vaccines has eliminated small pox. Polio is now almost unheard of because of vaccines. Measles, mumps and other childhood maladies have far less impact on society than they did 50 years ago.

    Just because you haven’t had the flu in many years is NOT proof of your immune system being able to respond to the different strains of influenza. This could easily be explained by herd immunity. If enough people in a population receive immunizations, the virus has fewer opportunities to infect a host. The probability of infection for you drops, even though you did not get immunized. Think of it like a maze. The immunized people are the walls. Unless the virus finds the unabated path to you, you won’t get infected. As people who did get sick develop antibodies, the don’t get reinfected, so they add more walls and cut off more paths.

    Also, unless you go to the doctor at the drop of a hat and get a throat swab, you may not find out that you have the flu. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

100. #100
     On October 14th, 2009 at 9:41 am, On-my-soap-box said:

     On October 14th, 2009 at 9:14 am, SomeOtherSteve said:

     Let me note what you got right: NOTHING.

     Now let’s use facts:

     Let’s.

     In addition, biotechnology and genetic engineering techniques have been used to produce “subunit vaccines” – vaccines which use only the parts of an organism yet which stimulate a strong immune response. To create a subunit vaccine, researchers isolate the gene or genes which code for appropriate subunits from the genome of the infectious agent. This genetic material is placed into bacteria or yeast host cells which then produce large quantities of subunit molecules by transcribing and translating the inserted foreign DNA. It is important to note that these subunit molecules are encoded by genetic material from the infectious agent, not from the host cell’s genetic material. These “foreign” molecules can be isolated, purified, and used as a vaccine.

     SOURCE

     That is just one source.

     Shall I look up “mutation” (deliberate or otherwise) for you?

     Again, “I got a flu shot and didn’t get the flu” is not an indication you would not have gotten the flu in the first place. There are many of us who do not get the shot and do not get the flu.

     I will take my chances without the introduction of anything man is doing with the bugs TYVM.