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1. #827670
   On October 20th, 2009 at 10:35 pm, Marc said:

   The whole point is to get these terrorists in front of liberal judges that Carter/Clinton appointed and liberal ACLU lawyers will get them out likety split.

2. #827672
   On October 20th, 2009 at 10:40 pm, WarEagle82 said:

   Gosh, isn’t this the same deal we gave to German SS Prisoners of War back in 1945?

   Why is everybody complaining? As long as we house these terrorists in the basement of the White House I don’t have a problem with it…

3. #827677
   On October 20th, 2009 at 10:51 pm, verogolfer said:

   Send them to Berkeley. No one will be able to tell the difference between the inmates and the other residents out there.

4. #827679
   On October 20th, 2009 at 10:54 pm, sultanp said:

   I am left utterly speechless that people in our government are so brain dead.

   A duck would do a better job of governing than 90% of our elected representatives.

5. #827683
   On October 20th, 2009 at 10:57 pm, prendad said:

   I have no problem with this, as long as the prisoners are quartered in Pacific Heights, San Francisco, or 1600 Pensylvania Avenue. Fair is fair. . .right?

6. #827685
   On October 20th, 2009 at 11:06 pm, prendad said:

   Sorry to go off topic but WHEN IS THE PRESIDENT GOING TO MAKE UP HIS MIND WHETHER TO SEND TROOPS TO AFGANISTAN? MAKE UP YOUR MIND……MAKE UP YOUR MIND……MAKE UP YOUR MIND YOU IDIOT. And, by the way
   MAKE UP YOUR MIND BOZO.

7. #827686
   On October 20th, 2009 at 11:07 pm, granite said:

   Like so many other things these dangerous, socialist idiots do, this doesn’t even pass the smell nor laugh tests.
   When are people with some power (real, serious power) and some authority finally going to say “Enough!” to those within our country who are giving aid and comfort to the foreign enemies of our country?

8. #827687
   On October 20th, 2009 at 11:07 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

   On October 20th, 2009 at 10:54 pm, sultanp said:
   I am left utterly speechless that people in our government are so brain dead.

   The problem is you think they have brains to begin with.

   I hope this helps.

   Kirk,

   I think I can help you too. Let me translate this move for you:

   Screw you, the military and your loser families too.
   - B. Obama

9. #827689
   On October 20th, 2009 at 11:12 pm, Truesoldier said:

   On October 20th, 2009 at 11:06 pm, prendad said:

   It makes me wonder if this delay tactic by Obama is a way for him to have an out that he thinks will go over ok with the American public at the same time pleasing his base.

   I figure that regardless of which candidate comes out on top in Afghanistan Obama will claim that with all the fraud going on their is no legitimate government and use that as an excuse to pull the troops out.

10. #827690
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:14 pm, Truesoldier said:

    so who were the 11 Republicans that voted for it (assuming that the other 60 were in fact Democrats).

    I would bet that Collins, Snowe, Graham and McCain are at least 4 of them on that list

11. #827691
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:16 pm, graysonret said:

    WHEN IS THE PRESIDENT GOING TO MAKE UP HIS MIND WHETHER TO SEND TROOPS TO AFGANISTAN?

    He’s in way over his head, being president. He has to rely on the liberal philosophy…if it feels good, it is good. Bringing these inmates here, feels good. He wants to be a humanitarian, because it feels good. It’s a shame though that Obama is the first “black” president. I know some black people who would have made excellent presidents. I would have voted for them, without hesitation. His presidency may set back “black politicians” several decades. People may, in the future, remember the first black president and the disasters he made.

12. #827692
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:17 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    When 79 Senators vote for something as mindlessly moronic as this it is time to state that the Republic is dead…

    THEY ALL NEED TO GO!!!!!

13. #827696
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:22 pm, WarTip said:

    The compromise passed by both chambers of Congress would allow the government to bring Guantanamo inmates to U.S. soil only if they are going to face trial in American courts.

    Can we just use the dear old Geneva Convention that the libs so loved to throw in our faces … I mean refer to before?

    Exactly what rights are non-uniformed enemy combatants granted under the Geneva Convention? None?

    Why are we even thinking about granting the rights of a citizen on enemy combatants?

    Those cleared of wrongdoing without trial could not be resettled within the United States.

    And those found guilty would be housed where?

14. #827697
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Why are they being prosecuted in open court? Are our military courts considered American courts? I think someone was trying to be too cute by half in adding language about America Courts to the bill. This is not a poison pill. A true poison pill would have been to say ‘civilian courts.’

    [NOTE: Where are the concerns about having had this bill in conference committee, behind closed doors?]

    Yep, try the terrorists who can be, in civilian courts. And, to avoid compromising classified intelligence try the others in American military courts. Actually, try them all in American military courts. Use the established policy for crying out loud.

    But, this is all so ridiculous. Why has it taken eight years to get to this point? I am thinking that someone was trying to be too cute by half, then as well.

    As for making us less safe. Who feels less safe knowing that we already have terrorists in our prisons?

15. #827701
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:28 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pm, zyzzyg said

    You are right that Military courts are American courts, but the only problem is that it will be up to the administration as to which “American” courts to use.

16. #827703
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:31 pm, rightisright said:

    “By prosecuting terrorists in open courts, the president will compromise classified intelligence that Americans have paid dearly to obtain for our safety,” said Lippold, now with the advocacy group Military Families United.

    when exactly has this dick weed we have for a president done anything that could be construed as being protective of the American people? You know the president’s main function according to the constitution, oh that’s right the libs don’t believe in the constitution as it was written.

    I’m probably wishing for the best, but it would seem he’s not upholding the oath of office he took, twice by the way. Anything to get rid of this clown.

    All 79 need to go, go to hell that is.

17. #827710
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:39 pm, graysonret said:

    Can we just use the dear old Geneva Convention that the libs so loved to throw in our faces … I mean refer to before?

    I agree with the liberals…we need to use the Geneva Conventions. Anyone read the conventions? I have. “Hello, Gitmo…shoot them”. End of problem and in compliance with the Conventions. Personally, I would look into buying the Pitcairn Isles. Besides, the world declaring them another “Devil’s Island”, it would make a fine prison. Hundreds of miles from anywhere.

18. #827712
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:40 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I suspect, without some MAJOR life change, that is the most likely destination for these 79…

    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:31 pm, rightisright said:

    All 79 need to go, go to hell that is.

19. #827723
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:54 pm, love2rumba said:

    So I wonder how many of these GOP Senators who voted for this we are supposed to support because they merely have an R after their name…?

20. #827763
    On October 21st, 2009 at 1:11 am, simcoe said:

    Not much intelligence in the faces of those masks. Looks like a typical day at the office for Holder and his staff.

    What’s my next job?
    What should I do now?
    Just wind me up, I’ll dust off your desk.
    Dum de dum dum.

21. #827775
    On October 21st, 2009 at 1:57 am, prendad said:

    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:12 pm, Truesoldier said:
    On October 20th, 2009 at 11:06 pm, prendad said:
    It makes me wonder if this delay tactic by Obama is a way for him to have an out that he thinks will go over ok with the American public at the same time pleasing his base.

    I figure that regardless of which candidate comes out on top in Afghanistan Obama will claim that with all the fraud going on their is no legitimate government and use that as an excuse to pull the troops out.

    I know that I should probably stop harping on this but this guy has GOT TO MAKE UP HIS LITTLE MIND. IN OR OUT. OUT OR IN. Believe me folks, I have spent too much time in the military waiting for politicians to MAKE UP THEIR MINDS. Guys are getting killed over there, in planes, in tanks, foot soldiers, special forces, believe me I KNOW THIS PRESIDENT IS KILLING PEOPLE EVERY SECOND HE WAFFLES OVER THIS DECISION. And I do not give a darn whether people will be knocking on my door soon or auditing my tax returns. MAKE UP YOUR MIND, YOU IDIOT.

22. #827784
    On October 21st, 2009 at 2:10 am, love2rumba said:

    Why are they being prosecuted in open court? Are our military courts considered American courts? I think someone was trying to be too cute by half in adding language about America Courts to the bill. This is not a poison pill. A true poison pill would have been to say ‘civilian courts.’

    A military court is an American court for military personnel and those captured in battle by US miltary personnel, only subject ultimately to the US Supreme Court. what the left have been trying to do for years is diminish the authority of miltary courts to the point of only having them decide cases of whether or not an offender should be kept in the military.

    Keep in mind they used to execute servicemen for desertion in wartime (declared war, that is)

    Frankly this whole nitwitery over Gitmo would have been legally avoided, IF Bush had asked Congress for a declaration of War against the Taliban-run government of Afghanistan. Instead they handled this like Vietnam, and other miltary actions with insanely-unconstitutional War Powers act of 1973 which does not require the president to ask congress to declare war…just come to congress with your request for more money to spend on a military action.

    By doing this they really robbed the country of communicating the true gravity of the situation (they attacked us on our soil, and/or allowed agents to do this on their behalf i.e. the Taliban), and thus practically invited the anti-war nuts to come out.

    Whereas had they done this the constitutional way, a person who opposed the war in Afghanistan could be really be put on the spot with nowhere to hide: Either you are for the US or against the US.

    Side point : I remember some of the people who were against the draft and Vietnam saying to me as a child that they ‘would only go and fight IF the US proper was attacked’…I never believed this for a minute…had there been a proper Declaration of War made, Bush could have legally and morally left our actions in Afghanistan, at least, unassailable, and the Code Pinkos would be in jail where they belong, and not being celebrated as MY equal by the left and slacker media.

23. #827785
    On October 21st, 2009 at 2:11 am, prendad said:

    Oh by the way, I assume that the White House staff reads this. It is the only way that I communicate with them because they have not answered the 23 messages that I have sent them on the White House touchy-feely website that promises to be oh so close to the people yada yada BS etc.

24. #827819
    On October 21st, 2009 at 7:41 am, jamesgreenidge said:

    Unfortunately it will take the Taliban to usurp Afghanistan then Pakistan and seize whose nuke warheads to slip into New York harbor and incinerate several million people before this country has the sense to connect the dots at the consequences of “just pull out!” As precious the lives of our people in uniform are, you don’t save/protect far more lives by not doing what needs to be done.

    James Greenidge
    Queens NY

25. #827830
    On October 21st, 2009 at 8:30 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Let the misunderstood and oppressed lads go-in a world full of jihadist they are but a pimple on the rump of an elephant. Let the lads go and all the world will love us again and all will be sunshine and roses.
    Offer to settle them here;
    ACORN can help get them housing in Valerie Jarrett’s apartments and they can get teaching jobs at the University of Chicago.

    Let the lads go.

26. #827838
    On October 21st, 2009 at 8:48 am, dan708 said:

    So the vote was 79 to 19 in the Senate? We were betrayed by more than just the usual RINOs this time. The entire Republican Party needs a high-pressure enema.

27. #827841
    On October 21st, 2009 at 8:54 am, granite said:

    On October 21st, 2009 at 2:10 am, love2rumba said:

    Frankly this whole nitwitery over Gitmo would have been legally avoided, IF Bush had asked Congress for a declaration of War against the Taliban-run government of Afghanistan.

    Yep.
    I thought that immediately in September of 2001.

    Instead they handled this like Vietnam, and other miltary actions with insanely-unconstitutional War Powers act of 1973 which does not require the president to ask congress to declare war…just come to congress with your request for more money to spend on a military action.

    Yep again.
    Just plain stupid.

    By doing this they really robbed the country of communicating the true gravity of the situation (they attacked us on our soil, and/or allowed agents to do this on their behalf i.e. the Taliban), and thus practically invited the anti-war nuts to come out.

    Not that those dangerous, domestic-enemy idiots ever need an invitation.

    Whereas had they done this the constitutional way, a person who opposed the war in Afghanistan could be really be put on the spot with nowhere to hide: Either you are for the US or against the US.

    Yep a third time.
    Agree completely.
    Even the socialist Roosevelt asked for a declaration of war.

28. #827846
    On October 21st, 2009 at 9:07 am, sbw999 said:

    This is just what the ACLU, Obama and all dems want; US security secrets (including the identity of covert personnel) spilled out in open Court, and disseminated to and by terrorists, and their equally disgusting attorneys.

    Mao supporters, 9-11 truthers, pedophile enablers, racist preachers, domestic terrorists, sterilization wackos, socialists…etc. Can November 2010 get here soon enough????????

29. #827861
    On October 21st, 2009 at 9:45 am, rike101 said:

    On October 20th, 2009 at 10:51 pm, verogolfer said:
    Send them to Berkeley. No one will be able to tell the difference between the inmates and the other residents out there.

    No need. Amherst, MA has first dibs in them.

    http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091020/NEWS/910209990#