There is no way to understand fully unless you have lived it. Kudos for bringing this up….

Thanks heaps for this!… if anyone else has anything, it would be much appreciated. Great website HOT Pianoforte Links http://www.en.Grand-Pianos.org Enjoy!…

This wasn’t a hate crime you’re right. It was drug fueled backwoods degeneracy where a clearly insane woman was living with meth heads in a trailer, and of course mayhem ensued. The girl is now trying to get her boyfriend out of jail, but frankly he belongs there.

She can say she wasn’t abused all she wants but when cops found her she had been stabbed in the leg, her head had been shaved and her boyfriends mother admitted, at the scene, that the girl was basically chained up and she was watching her for her son.

Let’s not make victims out of cretin here.These people, Williams included, are straight out of a Rob Zombie movie.

On October 21st, 2009 at 11:55 pm, jangar said:
purealchemy said:
Tommy Smothers is still alive somewhere?
Probably in Branson…with tennis balls stuck on his walker legs.

Cruel, but deserved.

Boil that cabbage down!…and feed it to those pumas.

Not getting that reference.

Very very well said, you put into words what I have been thinking but just can’t express it. As an added note, Rev Al was in on this also. I am just plain shocked.

When a person is falsely accused, there are a myraid of emotions going through your head and sometimes the best course of action is to plead guilty and get a lower jail sentence than risk it all and end up locked for alot longer. Fight for your rights, ask for an attorney and then your accusers start leveling the accusation that if you didn’t do anything wrong why do you need a lawyer?

Think this is far fetched-Ask the Duke Lax Team and Coach Mike Pressler how they felt.

Consider this; try keeping your head on straight when you are being falsely accused of crime you didn’t commit, you have 7 to 8 people verbally telling you that they have evidence damming your guilt, anything you say will be held against you-taken out of context and spun to ensure maximum destruction of your career and you ultimately end up in a psych ward for a period of time.

By the way, this occurs to you while you are in the military and the above happens to you and it gets even worse: Your E-7+ Disciplinary Review Board has already determined your guilt and has already scheduled your Executive Officers Inquiry an hour after the board and you find out you are scheduled for NJP with your Commanding Officer a week later.

So innocent people do plead guilty because its alot easier than fighting when the deck is stacked against you. Add in the racial componet and even more so-its unfortunately reached a point that Weary Citizen hit the nail on the head about white people being discriminated against in so many ways. Its hard being a white college educated male in Memphis looking for work, listening to the racist comments coming from the local city council (ala Joe Brown-NOT the tv Judge Joe Brown) and dealing with the rampant racism on a daily basis.

GSP
BTW-The above military incident happened to me back in 2005, and I asked the senior NCO board member after evidence came out exhonorating the three of us if she still thought we were guilty. She tapped danced worse than a Chicago politician and refused to answer the question, which I calmly replied then that since you cannot say three men were innocent in the face of irrefutable eveidence, you have demonstrated an ability to refuse to be impartial and considered us guilty from the beginning.

If I had any confidence in my former CO/XO/Senior NCO to truly punish the guilty, I would have written up an E-5 with several charges (including Falsfying an document & being caught backdating a computer responsibilty document) and ensured he would have never done this to another man again. An E-6 with no medals for valor versus and E-5 with a Bronze Star and Purple Heart-there is no way the E-5 was going to lose anything.

On October 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm, sbw999 said:

No problem. Be my guest. I am just so tired of hearing the racist mantra over and over that I could scream. In reality, they, like RSS, are their own worst enemy if their goal is to end racism. They inflame the hatred rather than stamp it out by yelling wolf when there was truly no wolf. It leaves a bad taste in people’s mouths. Anyway, thanks for the compliment.

On October 22nd, 2009 at 10:27 am, Weary Citizen said:

Hope you don’t mind but I thought that was so well done, I cut and pasted it (without your screen name), and sent it to many of my friends by e-mail.

On October 22nd, 2009 at 10:27 am, Weary Citizen said:

VERY well played!

You still won’t address the rampant racism within the Republican Party, and none of you has even commented on cheapseat (see the last page if you missed it). Sickening.

That is total BS. Based on what? Your perception? Racism towards whites is much more prevalent than the reverse. Racism is much much less prevalent than even 20 years ago.

Now, though your assertion is untrue, let’s pretend it is. You idiots constantly beating your PC drum have driven many whites to become less symapthetic to other races (especially poor whites)? I’m a racist? My repsonse, so what. No matter what I do you and your ilk will call me racists anyway. Consider these drivers of your so call “rampant racism”.
1. Affirmative action in education and jobs. Whites are disadvantaged. It’s reverse discrimination.
2. Unless whites bow down and kiss the feet of every black and apologize for wrongs done 100 years ago, we are racists in your mind. Any PERCEIVED slight against a black is seen as “dissing” them and the attitude and agressiveness starts.
3. One simple misspoken sentence that is construed as racist will result in a white being ostracised and stripped of their livlihood. No matter how much they apologize. But a black man can say ANYTHING racist he wants, never apologize, but he gets a pass.
4. Hate Crime laws aimed solely at whites. It is not applied equally across all races and we know it. Just another way to get whitey.
5. NAACP/LULAC/Black Caucus/La Raza/Hispanic Caucus/Black Universities/etc. It’s ok for minorities to have pride in their culture and form clubs tha only allows their race. But let a white even hint at all white organization and look out. Here come the race hustlers and their lawyers.
6. If you are white and you find yourself in an all black neighborhood. Look out. You are in real danger. That’s a fact. Ask any sane white person. But blacks generally have no issue in white neighborhoods. At least they don’t fear for their safety. And don’t try to find the exception and hold it up as the rule.
7. As stats show, black on white crime is many many time greater than the reverse. Blacks are many more times likely to commit crimes in general. Again, man up and take responsiblity of your life and your actions.
8. All shortcomings of blacks (dropout rates,poor education, crime, etc) are blamed on whitey, even though we throw more and more $ trying to help them. Man up balck community and straighten up your own life and stop blaming the elusive white racist.

Look the list can go on forever. The point is many whites are getting tired of the constant howls of racsim where none, or very low levels, exist. Look, shut up and live your life. Leave me alone and we will get along fine. I’m not a racists, but I am a race realist who does not close his eyes to facts.

On October 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 am, Red State Skeptic said:
Now show me some evidence that their offenses are racially based.

Apparently your requirement for a crime to be racially based is for a racial slur to have been used.

Black kids beat up a white kid for sitting in a bus seat – not racially motivated.

White man beats up black woman for no apparent reason and uses racial epithet – hate crime.

So if he had just beat her without using the N-word, you’d be okay with that?

Also, in what way does that make it okay to send 7 people to prison for a crime that was never committed?

Do you agree that the woman who falsely accused these people should be punished?

On October 22nd, 2009 at 12:43 am, Red State Skeptic said:

You still won’t address the rampant racism within the Republican Party

Olbermann? Is that you??? I haven’t seen the thread, but your comment is utterly stupid. What “rampant racism” might your brain dead head be talking about? Racists come in all colors, and political affiliations…all. And in no case (other than the KKK or skinheads) do they constitute a majority of any particular group. Now go hide under your bed, and let the adults talk.

There are some in both parties who may be racist, but Al and JJ are some of the most blatant.