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		<title>By: yohannbiimu</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829467</link>
		<dc:creator>yohannbiimu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraud and criminality are the norms in today&#039;s society.  Anyone who does anything according to any ethical, moral standards is a fool, because he will be swatted down and punished by a society that believes that hard work and achievement must support and uphold corruption, ignorance, and poverty.  Criminals are seen as victims, because they have failed to succeed in accordance with real productivity, and productivity is seen as the means to feed those who refuse to do anything for their own benefit; therefore, even a murderer should benefit from a society that sees failure as a virtue and success as an evil.

The sickness that has a hold upon every corner of American society will not be cured until it has collapsed and the corrupt charade of a government that we have today has crumbled with it.  There will be excruciating days ahead, that will include panic, mayhem, and the deaths of thousands, because too many do not understand what is happening.  Too many actually think that government is the source of all that matters in their lives, they will realize when it is too late that government is what has taken everything that matters away from them.

Every last vestige of corruption and tyranny must be wiped out before we can ever experience liberty and freedom again.  It won&#039;t come by elections, because all of the parties are controlled by the very people who wish to enslave us.  America as we know it today must be utterly destroyed.  Every last bit of what we see today with this all-powerful centralized government must be burned down in order that a renewed republic can rise again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraud and criminality are the norms in today&#8217;s society.  Anyone who does anything according to any ethical, moral standards is a fool, because he will be swatted down and punished by a society that believes that hard work and achievement must support and uphold corruption, ignorance, and poverty.  Criminals are seen as victims, because they have failed to succeed in accordance with real productivity, and productivity is seen as the means to feed those who refuse to do anything for their own benefit; therefore, even a murderer should benefit from a society that sees failure as a virtue and success as an evil.</p>
<p>The sickness that has a hold upon every corner of American society will not be cured until it has collapsed and the corrupt charade of a government that we have today has crumbled with it.  There will be excruciating days ahead, that will include panic, mayhem, and the deaths of thousands, because too many do not understand what is happening.  Too many actually think that government is the source of all that matters in their lives, they will realize when it is too late that government is what has taken everything that matters away from them.</p>
<p>Every last vestige of corruption and tyranny must be wiped out before we can ever experience liberty and freedom again.  It won&#8217;t come by elections, because all of the parties are controlled by the very people who wish to enslave us.  America as we know it today must be utterly destroyed.  Every last bit of what we see today with this all-powerful centralized government must be burned down in order that a renewed republic can rise again.</p>
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		<title>By: On-my-soap-box</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829404</link>
		<dc:creator>On-my-soap-box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On October 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am, cheapseat said: 
GEEEEEE! fraud in a gubmint program. who could believe that. and waste too! oh no mr. bill, say it ain’t so! next you’ll be telling me the IRS is now warm and cuddly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bing.com/search?q=irs+kinder&amp;src=IE-SearchBox&amp;Form=IE8SRC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No but they are &quot;kinder and gentler&quot;!!&lt;/a&gt;

Too bad they cannot read a simple profit/loss statement.  They kindly want to separate me from $33,000 I do not own.  They just assume I received a check for EVERY &quot;sell&quot; order on my self-directed IRA stock account.

Idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On October 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am, cheapseat said:<br />
GEEEEEE! fraud in a gubmint program. who could believe that. and waste too! oh no mr. bill, say it ain’t so! next you’ll be telling me the IRS is now warm and cuddly.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.bing.com/search?q=irs+kinder&amp;src=IE-SearchBox&amp;Form=IE8SRC" rel="nofollow">No but they are &#8220;kinder and gentler&#8221;!!</a></p>
<p>Too bad they cannot read a simple profit/loss statement.  They kindly want to separate me from $33,000 I do not own.  They just assume I received a check for EVERY &#8220;sell&#8221; order on my self-directed IRA stock account.</p>
<p>Idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: The Snooper Report</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829329</link>
		<dc:creator>The Snooper Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Repubs Woopin&#039; Up On The Dems...&lt;/strong&gt;

Jim Hoft: Republicans Best Dems In ALL 10 Key Electoral Iss ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Repubs Woopin&#8217; Up On The Dems&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Jim Hoft: Republicans Best Dems In ALL 10 Key Electoral Iss &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829273</link>
		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fraud and corruption are typical with government programs. If Obamacare passes, expect many people to pocket bribes, pay-offs and political incentives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraud and corruption are typical with government programs. If Obamacare passes, expect many people to pocket bribes, pay-offs and political incentives.</p>
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		<title>By: drfredc</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829256</link>
		<dc:creator>drfredc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One simple solution to some sorts of these fraud schemes would be move away from government paying for charity services and products towards allowing the unreimbursed portion of charity care to be deducted from providers income.  

Tax deductible charity care provides all sorts of checks and balances against many sorts of fraud -- the provider would have to have real provider income to report and pay taxes on before there is any advantage to taking a tax deduction against that income.  

There is a break even point where additional charity care provides no financial benefit. 

Furthermore, at no time would the tax deductions end up putting &#039;new&#039; money in someone&#039;s pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One simple solution to some sorts of these fraud schemes would be move away from government paying for charity services and products towards allowing the unreimbursed portion of charity care to be deducted from providers income.  </p>
<p>Tax deductible charity care provides all sorts of checks and balances against many sorts of fraud &#8212; the provider would have to have real provider income to report and pay taxes on before there is any advantage to taking a tax deduction against that income.  </p>
<p>There is a break even point where additional charity care provides no financial benefit. </p>
<p>Furthermore, at no time would the tax deductions end up putting &#8216;new&#8217; money in someone&#8217;s pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogue Cheddar</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829180</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogue Cheddar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;lax oversight of claims that leads to widespread fraud.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jeez! Is Barney Frank overseeing this also?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>lax oversight of claims that leads to widespread fraud.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jeez! Is Barney Frank overseeing this also?</p>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829167</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should show good faith (and ability) and clean up MediCare first.  

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Then&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; we can talk about reform....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should show good faith (and ability) and clean up MediCare first.  </p>
<p><strong><em>Then</em></strong> we can talk about reform&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jangar</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829157</link>
		<dc:creator>jangar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you’re able to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse then why don’t you just do it?!?!!? Wouldn’t that be a good thing in and of itself?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And, furthermore, trash this whole concept of reforming the way healthcare is administered in the USA?

In other words...eliminate waste and fraud, push back from excessive government control, allow for state to state portability, and Tort reform.

But that would be WAY too easy, and not a liberal prescription for destroying the American healthcare system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you’re able to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse then why don’t you just do it?!?!!? Wouldn’t that be a good thing in and of itself?</p>
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<p>And, furthermore, trash this whole concept of reforming the way healthcare is administered in the USA?</p>
<p>In other words&#8230;eliminate waste and fraud, push back from excessive government control, allow for state to state portability, and Tort reform.</p>
<p>But that would be WAY too easy, and not a liberal prescription for destroying the American healthcare system.</p>
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		<title>By: James Felix</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829144</link>
		<dc:creator>James Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;President Obama has insisted that he will cut several hundred billion dollars out of Medicare’s budget without affecting benefits simply by eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which of course begs the question: 

If you&#039;re able to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse then &lt;em&gt;why don&#039;t you just do it&lt;/em&gt;?!?!!? Wouldn&#039;t that be a good thing in and of itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>President Obama has insisted that he will cut several hundred billion dollars out of Medicare’s budget without affecting benefits simply by eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Which of course begs the question: </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re able to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse then <em>why don&#8217;t you just do it</em>?!?!!? Wouldn&#8217;t that be a good thing in and of itself?</p>
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		<title>By: jangar</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829142</link>
		<dc:creator>jangar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey, just what we and future generations of taxpayers need: Vast new opportunities for out-of-control government health care fraud!

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Hey, I thought that was the entire purpose of ObamaCare...more Government jobs for worthless people, more Government programs for those who do not achieve, higher taxes for those who achieve, and loss of freedom for the American Poeple.

Did I miss anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hey, just what we and future generations of taxpayers need: Vast new opportunities for out-of-control government health care fraud!</p>
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<p>Hey, I thought that was the entire purpose of ObamaCare&#8230;more Government jobs for worthless people, more Government programs for those who do not achieve, higher taxes for those who achieve, and loss of freedom for the American Poeple.</p>
<p>Did I miss anything?</p>
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		<title>By: flaming_o</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829125</link>
		<dc:creator>flaming_o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Sounds like Guillermo Denis Gonzalez got himself an awesome job! Maybe I should do the same. And call it &quot;service&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Sounds like Guillermo Denis Gonzalez got himself an awesome job! Maybe I should do the same. And call it &#8220;service&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Deaux</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829118</link>
		<dc:creator>John Deaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how all these people claim that government is the only answer to the heartless, profit oriented insurance companies, yet &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/10/06/deny-guess-who-has-highest-medical-claim-rejection-rate&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Medicare denies a higher percentage of claims than any other carrier&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course, Medicare isn&#039;t too concerned about fraud because they don&#039;t have to worry about making a profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how all these people claim that government is the only answer to the heartless, profit oriented insurance companies, yet <a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/10/06/deny-guess-who-has-highest-medical-claim-rejection-rate" rel="nofollow">Medicare denies a higher percentage of claims than any other carrier</a>.</p>
<p>Of course, Medicare isn&#8217;t too concerned about fraud because they don&#8217;t have to worry about making a profit.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingrocker</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829117</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingrocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as Republicans and Democrats are in control, fraud will run rampant in Washington, DC.

RWR
www.rightwingrocker.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as Republicans and Democrats are in control, fraud will run rampant in Washington, DC.</p>
<p>RWR<br />
<a href="http://www.rightwingrocker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rightwingrocker.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: groundhunter</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/if-you-like-medi-fraud-youll-love-obamacare/comment-page-1/#comment-829113</link>
		<dc:creator>groundhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just listed my dear lost one as Mrs. Extreme Fraud and put in the comments my objection to using bad science as a basis for making political decisions.  Probably will never get posted, but still it was a way to make a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just listed my dear lost one as Mrs. Extreme Fraud and put in the comments my objection to using bad science as a basis for making political decisions.  Probably will never get posted, but still it was a way to make a point.</p>
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		<title>By: glockomatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>glockomatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They KNOW this stuff exists. They KNOW there is million in medicare fraud, waste &amp; abuse. So why don’t they fix this first?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The obvious answer is that they are complicit in it.  How else do congressmen (who are paid less than I am) all become multi-millionaires?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They KNOW this stuff exists. They KNOW there is million in medicare fraud, waste &amp; abuse. So why don’t they fix this first?</p></blockquote>
<p>The obvious answer is that they are complicit in it.  How else do congressmen (who are paid less than I am) all become multi-millionaires?</p>
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