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1. #829804
   On October 25th, 2009 at 10:32 am, AmericaFirst said:

   Can anyone give me the inside track on the Florida Governor race with liberal RINO Crist vs. Republican Marco Rubio? Could this be another GOP debacle NY race of Doug Hoffman vs Dede Scozzafava? I’ll consider donating to Rubio if he is a bona fide Conservative.

2. #829805
   On October 25th, 2009 at 10:36 am, granite said:

   On October 25th, 2009 at 9:46 am, BOB said:

   Every case that has been dismissed so far was done so for “lack of standing”.

   I’m not sure that dismissal for “lack of standing” is the same as the existence of courtroom evidence; but, these “dismissals” (thank you for reminding me of them) only make the whole sitruation stink even worse.

   Believe me, we are on the same side!

3. #829807
   On October 25th, 2009 at 10:43 am, granite said:

   On October 25th, 2009 at 9:46 am, BOB said:

   Something is badly wrong, and fear and/or intimidation are the only possibilities I can see.

   To those I would add the lunatics’ being in charge of the aylum:

   Socialist judges, socialist academics, socialist lawyers, and socialist media workers are glad that what is happening is happening.

   Once again, thank you 1960s – in which I grew up.

4. #829808
   On October 25th, 2009 at 10:44 am, b-cat said:

   One thing to consider versus the whole birth certificate court thing; there would be great outrage in the black community if Obama were removed this way. There would be no reconciliation between black and white for the forseeable future. There would be violence.

   They would see it as Whitey puttin’ down the black man once again. It would not be accurate, but the media would certainly sell it that way.

5. #829809
   On October 25th, 2009 at 10:54 am, BOB said:

   On October 25th, 2009 at 10:44 am, b-cat said:
   One thing to consider versus the whole birth certificate court thing; there would be great outrage in the black community if Obama were removed this way. There would be no reconciliation between black and white for the forseeable future. There would be violence.

   They would see it as Whitey puttin’ down the black man once again. It would not be accurate, but the media would certainly sell it that way.

   True, but absolutely no reason to allow the scam to remain unchallenged.

   Maybe that has some relation to the refusal of the media to discuss the issue. If the issue is discussed the scam dies because any close look at Obama’s past will show the “birthers” are correct. So, it’s not discussed.

   Perhaps we can be intimidated into ignoring the law and the Constitution? Not good.

   That reconciliation thing ain’t going very well with Obama anyway.

6. #829810
   On October 25th, 2009 at 11:01 am, granite said:

   On October 25th, 2009 at 10:44 am, b-cat said:

   One thing to consider versus the whole birth certificate court thing; there would be great outrage in the black community if Obama were removed this way. There would be no reconciliation between black and white for the forseeable future. There would be violence.

   They would see it as Whitey puttin’ down the black man once again. It would not be accurate, but the media would certainly sell it that way.

   I understand what you’re saying.

   However: to not do anything about this matter; to acquiesce because of fear and intimidation; would merely be to give in to extortion that is “too strong to resist”.

   Analogous to the dangerous, bone-headed, out-of-control spending the dangerous, foolish, arguably evil socialists are engaged in when braying about certain businesses, industries, or concerns that are “too big to fail”.

   And, analogous to the shorts-staining quaking of the fools who worry about the consequences of militarily stopping the Iranian savages from getting nuclear weapons now – while appearing completely heedless of what the consequences will – not would, but will be if and when those barbarians get their evil hands on nukes.

   I, for one, would rather stand up to extortion…now.

7. #829811
   On October 25th, 2009 at 11:09 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   On October 25th, 2009 at 10:44 am, b-cat said:

   One thing to consider versus the whole birth certificate court thing; there would be great outrage in the black community if Obama were removed this way. There would be no reconciliation between black and white for the forseeable future. There would be violence.

   The Birth issue seems to be a non starter-but as far as “reconciliation between black and white for the foreseeable future”-it isn’t going to happen. Racebaiting is too big an industry, too big a power source for all too many really bad people. That would be “really bad people” in government, non governmental agencies, media, academia and such.

   The gang mentality of the street has reached all levels of this society and mostly wiped out two generations of progress. WHEN push DOES come to shove all the wrong people will be the first to be hurt and I fear me and mine will be among them.

   We wouldn’t want a crisis to go wasted would we? What is the death of the innocent compared to Making the World a Better Place by fiat? All I ask for is a little revenge on the Leftist rats.

8. #829814
   On October 25th, 2009 at 11:55 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

   “acquiesce because of fear and intimidation;”

   No, one makes a decision regarding the value/cost/out come of a thing. Just because one decides not doing something is the best course does not then mean a person is has “acquiesce because of fear and intimidation”.

9. #829815
   On October 25th, 2009 at 11:57 am, BOB said:

   On October 25th, 2009 at 11:09 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
   The Birth issue seems to be a non starter

   Would you define non-starter? Are you saying it has no credibility?

10. #829816
    On October 25th, 2009 at 11:57 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “flues HAVE NOT reached Arizona”

    Sorry AZ but they have. Several folks at work have it, one of our medical directors little kids with it, etc. Its here……

11. #829818
    On October 25th, 2009 at 12:35 pm, Roland said:

    I, for one, would rather stand up to extortion…now.

    So would I. Sadly, our fellow Americans would rather submit. That is what affirmative action has been about. That is what political correctness has been about. That is what electing Obama was about.

    “Please don’t be mad at us. See, we’ll give you this! Please don’t riot.”

    We have become a nation dominated by bullies and sniveling cowards. Our backbone has gone to rot.

12. #829820
    On October 25th, 2009 at 1:06 pm, BOB said:

    On October 25th, 2009 at 12:35 pm, Roland said:
    I, for one, would rather stand up to extortion…now.
    So would I. Sadly, our fellow Americans would rather submit. That is what affirmative action has been about. That is what political correctness has been about. That is what electing Obama was about.

    “Please don’t be mad at us. See, we’ll give you this! Please don’t riot.”

    We have become a nation dominated by bullies and sniveling cowards. Our backbone has gone to rot.

    You got that one right on Roland.

13. #829821
    On October 25th, 2009 at 1:15 pm, Reg.conservative said:

    All I hear is we are a land of laws,then comes the EXCEPT.
    I turned 73 today,and I am sick of hearing it.
    what is going to be here for my 13 grand kids or my 5 great ones?
    WE either enforce them all or none so which will it be?
    I am a registered conservative here in NY,have been from 1964.

14. #829830
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:11 pm, happy2behere said:

    Many cases of H1N1 reported in our small-town Elementary and High School. NO cases reported in our own Christian country day school. I wonder why that is.

15. #829831
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:19 pm, rightisright said:

    Let’s say for instance Odumbo is not a legal citizen in order to hold the office of president or any other government offices he’s held. He cheated, lied and broke the law and still is, so we say “that’s ok, we don’t want upset the minorities(blacks) and his followers in the country because of the violence that will follow.”
    That’s another appeasement and nothing more, as Reg.conservative said what laws do we uphold and what ones do we turn a blind eye to?
    It wasn’t easy for the Founding Fathers and it won’t be easy for any other generation that fights to keep America, America.

16. #829832
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:21 pm, jangar said:

    Many cases of H1N1 reported in our small-town Elementary and High School. NO cases reported in our own Christian country day school. I wonder why that is.

    To a large degree, some of the flu cases reported may be a lot of hype…and that hype would have to come from the politically correct places, public tax-hole institutions, of course.

17. #829833
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:24 pm, jangar said:

    Let’s say for instance Odumbo is not a legal citizen in order to hold the office of president or any other government offices he’s held. He cheated, lied and broke the law and still is, so we say “that’s ok, we don’t want upset the minorities(blacks) and his followers in the country because of the violence that will follow.”

    That’s the whole point of me saying for over a year that Obama is the democrats’ perfect storm.

18. #829834
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:28 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On October 25th, 2009 at 10:32 am, AmericaFirst said:

    Can anyone give me the inside track on the Florida Governor race with liberal RINO Crist vs. Republican Marco Rubio? Could this be another GOP debacle NY race of Doug Hoffman vs Dede Scozzafava? I’ll consider donating to Rubio if he is a bona fide Conservative.

    http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2009/05/12/charlie-crist-picks-a-fight-republicans-dont-need/

    I’m in Rubio’s camp. Crist is just a McCain / Graham clone. Mostly Graham, if you know what I mean.

19. #829836
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:32 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “That’s the whole point of me saying for over a year that Obama is the democrats’ perfect storm.”

    You mean George Soros and his buddies knew what they were doing when the pushed Obama to the forefront and Mrs. Clinton to the rear?

    Imagine that.

20. #829841
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:37 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    From Gates of Vienna reporting on the CBS investigation on swine flu, the reporting on what is actually a swine flu is dubious at best. For instance, less than 2% of all flu cases in CA are confirmed swine flu but that is not what gets reported by CDC.

    Here is a follow-up from the same source arguing that this is a political flu, not an actual flu.

21. #829842
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “We have become a nation dominated by bullies and sniveling cowards. Our backbone has gone to rot.”

    So if we’ve concluded going the birther route is a bad idea that then also means we have no spine and are sniveling cowards?

    There’s some open mindedness hey Mrs. Callabash…..

22. #829850
    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, graysonret said:

    that this is a political flu, not an actual flu

    Very true. These days anything with a stuffy nose and cough is diagnosed as “flu”. I’m watching the Martinsville race, where it’s been reported that Matt Kenseth is driving with the “flu”. Yeah, right! CDC wants more “flu” to get more money to “study” it. MSM wants more “flu” to sell stories. And, the government wants more “flu” to promote a crisis and fix it by grabbing power. I’ve had patients with the flu and I’ve had the flu. Stuffy noses, coughs and sneezes are not the flu.

23. #829851
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:04 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, graysonret said:

    At most, I’ve had the flu twice as an adult and I am very doubtful of the first one in my early twenties. Anyone who “fights through the flu” to race a car or play sports is lying. If you really have the flu, any flu, you are on your back for days whether you want to or not.

24. #829853
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:09 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “If you really have the flu, any flu, you are on your back for days whether you want to or not.”

    Sorry but that is not the case. You are making some very broad sweeping generalizations there Phil….

25. #829855
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, graysonret said:

    Yes, it is the case. JS. You have a fever, generally, over 102. Sometimes up to 104. You are very weak, and exhausted; often dehyrated. You usually have a headache and general aches and chills all over. You aren’t going anywhere but the bed.

26. #829856
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    BOB
    Would you define non-starter? Are you saying it has no credibility?

    Credibility? There is some reason the man is hiding it. By non-starter I am saying it is not seeming to go anywhere-there are just not enough interest in it where there needs to be. Right at the moment the bigger issue is the power grabs-and behind the Kenyan Hussein is Biden and Pelosi so we best keep the one good eye on the bigger issue.

    The Kenyan Hussein does consider himself President of the world.

27. #829859
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, purplepeep said:

    “purplepeep said:

    BOB said:
    Surely you are kidding.

    And stop calling me “Shirley”….”
    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - -

    BOB said:
    PP, when you re-read your post are you impressed with your ability to write paragraphs of meaningless stuff.

    LOL, BOB, what I wrote was just barely a sentence, not a paragraph. Shirley, you can’t be serious.

28. #829860
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:20 pm, BOB said:

    On October 25th, 2009 at 2:43 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:
    “We have become a nation dominated by bullies and sniveling cowards. Our backbone has gone to rot.”

    So if we’ve concluded going the birther route is a bad idea that then also means we have no spine and are sniveling cowards?
    There’s some open mindedness hey Mrs. Callabash…..

    Yes

29. #829861
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Bob, it is “meaningless” because you are ignorant and illiterate. Shirley, you can come up with better comments.

30. #829862
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:30 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “Yes, it is the case.”

    Sorry but it can be the case for one person and not the next. To make such a generalization about what one person’s symptoms will be when they have the flu means ALL people who have the flu will respond in exactly the same fashion is unsound. And what type of flu are we talking about?

    So no, ALL flu does not look exactly the same in ALL patients.

    Way to broad of a generalization there….way too broad.

31. #829863
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, BOB said:

    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, purplepeep said:
    “purplepeep said:

    BOB said:
    Surely you are kidding.
    And stop calling me “Shirley”….”
    - – – – – – – – – – – – – – – -

    BOB said:
    PP, when you re-read your post are you impressed with your ability to write paragraphs of meaningless stuff.
    LOL, BOB, what I wrote was just barely a sentence, not a paragraph. Shirley, you can’t be serious.

    I’m surely not Shirley,…but I think there is more than one PP here, as in Pasadena Phil.

    I’ll make purplepeep equal to pppp. No confusion there.

    I appreciate the conciseness of your post.

    Over and out………………….

32. #829864
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:38 pm, graysonret said:

    JS, don’t confuse an URI (upper respiratory infection) with the “flu”. With the flu (vs a bad cold), you do have a fever. You are very weak and exhausted. Many times, people can get a URI. That can be treated rather easily. There is absolutely no way you can walk around and conduct your usual life with the “flu”…the real flu. Many people get “bad” colds. Sure, they feel bad. But, it isn’t the flu.

33. #829865
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Bob: My apologies then. I’m more than happy to retract my last comment to you.

    I can be a little sensitive sometimes. I’d hate to think that with all the thought and effort I put into my comments someone would so easily dismiss them as “meaningless”. I may not always be right but I usually have a valid point.

34. #829867
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, purplepeep said:

    BOB said:

    I’m surely not Shirley,…but I think there is more than one PP here, as in Pasadena Phil.

    Oops – I punked myself there, BOB – doh!

35. #829868
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, jangar said:

    ALL flu does not look exactly the same in ALL patients.

    A common characteristic and classic symptom of any flu is a very high fever with chills, vomiting, and lots of puss coming from almost every orafice.

    Now…back to lunch.

36. #829869
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:54 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “JS, don’t confuse an URI (upper respiratory infection) with the “flu”.”

    I’m not. It is not sound to say nor act like all flu looks the same in all patients. You can not conclude simply because so and so does not have the same symptoms as such and such who had the flu means so and so did not have the flu.

    A patient/person can have the flu and not have all the same symptoms as another. To say all people/patients have to have ALL the same symptoms other wise they don’t have the flu is not sound.

37. #829871
    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:56 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “coming from almost every orafice.”

    That’s more like the cholera I’ve seen in Sudan.

38. #829875
    On October 25th, 2009 at 4:26 pm, BOB said:

    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:39 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    Bob: My apologies then. I’m more than happy to retract my last comment to you.

    I can be a little sensitive sometimes. I’d hate to think that with all the thought and effort I put into my comments someone would so easily dismiss them as “meaningless”. I may not always be right but I usually have a valid point.

    My bad…they had meaning.

39. #829877
    On October 25th, 2009 at 4:28 pm, BOB said:

    On October 25th, 2009 at 3:50 pm, purplepeep said:
    BOB said:

    I’m surely not Shirley,…but I think there is more than one PP here, as in Pasadena Phil.
    Oops – I punked myself there, BOB – doh!

    No problem, it could always be me…I’m 66 and anything can happen. LOL

40. #829880
    On October 25th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, Kingfish said:

    Greetings Everybody!

    I would like to take the time to wish reg.conservative a very happy birthday, and hopes for many more!

    So what is the topic of the open thread now?

41. #829881
    On October 25th, 2009 at 4:49 pm, Avi Green said:

    From my politics blog: the judge in the Rifqa Bary case has caved to political correctness. Are you going to sit there silently while a young girl’s life is still in danger?

    From my comics blog: the MSM is continuing to gush over DC’s Blackest Night, one of the most bottom-of-the-barrel crossovers they’ve published to date.

    And, from my game blog: here’s a video of Volfied, a variation on the classic Qix!

42. #829884
    On October 25th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, swede said:

    So what is the topic of the open thread now?

    Quantum Mechanics. Perhaps God does play dice. He just pre-determines the roll.

    Howdy King. Hope all is well.

    Avi Green – Generally folks here get annoyed at promoting personal sites. Doesn’t bother me, I just don’t click if not interested. Not a big deal, just sayin.

43. #829885
    On October 25th, 2009 at 5:42 pm, Kingfish said:

    Avi: Am I going to sit there silently? The courts have spoken much like the Elian Gonzales issue back in the days of Clinton and Reno. If I recall there are some similarities and participants of both events currently active.

    Green Lantern was never quite my bag, so I have nothing to compare Blackest Night with.. I still remember the original Crisis on Multiple Earths, but enjoy the JSA of late.

    Howdy Swede! Good to hear from you, everything is getting better

44. #829886
    On October 25th, 2009 at 5:51 pm, Kingfish said:

    I saw that the President’s daughters have not been vaccinated against the SWINE flu (I am not PC enough to call it otherwise). But isn’t it a declared emergency thus sayeth the One?

    More smoke and mirrors, sleight of hand and multiple distractions by this administration to divert attention from something else.

45. #829888
    On October 25th, 2009 at 6:02 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    And, from my game blog: here’s a video of Volfied, a variation on the classic Qix!

    Ari – does anybody watch the entire 39 minutes?

46. #829889
    On October 25th, 2009 at 6:05 pm, regularguy said:

    Just had to break down and contribute a bit of dough to Doug Hoffman’s campaign. Time to put up or shut up with regards to fighting the RINO’s who control the RNC. This race is really a question of whether we’re all serious about replanting the House and Senate with real conservatives, or whether we’ll once more bend over and spread our cheeks because we think we won’t make any difference.

47. #829890
    On October 25th, 2009 at 6:22 pm, love2rumba said:

    For those curious about the chances Mark Rubio has in the primary for Republican candidate for US Seante from Florida:
    

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    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) – Republican Gov. Charlie Crist probably wasn’t worried that literally embracing President Barack Obama back in February and strongly supporting the $787 billion federal stimulus package would hurt his U.S. Senate campaign.

    Sure, the hardcore party base wasn’t happy, but the appearance was an opportunity to win over Democrats, independents and moderate Republicans who voted for Obama. The president’s approval ratings were high, and any Republican thinking about running for an open seat in 2010 stopped thinking about it when Crist signaled interest.

    All except former House Speaker Marco Rubio. Political insiders said it wasn’t logical to challenge an incumbent governor who had high approval ratings and could raise gobs of money. However, Rubio said it didn’t make sense for the highest-profile Republican in Florida to embrace a Democratic president and a plan that would raise the federal deficit.

    Now Rubio is gaining momentum as he reminds Republican voters of Crist’s hug. And the same political insiders who downplayed Rubio are starting to think the unthinkable: Crist’s campaign might be threatened by another Republican.

    “I just knew that if we were true to ourselves and what we stand for, and we went out and told enough people about it, that we would begin to make progress and that’s what’s happening,” Rubio said.

    Rubio has swept 12 straw polls held by county Republican committees by enormous percentages. He nearly tripled his fundraising last quarter, topping the $1 million mark to provide a financial and psychological boost to his campaign. Conservative radio talk show hosts adore him, as well as party activists. He’s been praised by conservative columnist George Will and endorsed by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Sens. James Inhofe, R-Okla., and Jim DeMint, R-S.C..

    In two months, Crist’s lead over Rubio in a Quinnipiac University poll shrunk from 29 percentage points to 15 points. Although it still doesn’t mean Crist is in trouble.

    “There’s nothing to celebrate,” Rubio said. “The truth is we’re still behind. The only good news is we’re not behind by as much as we used to be.”

    Rubio’s rise is probably about to get more difficult as Crist pays more attention to him and to the race itself.

    “Charlie really hasn’t done much campaigning other than the fundraising, and Marco’s been out there beating the bushes for it. I think that’s why you’re seeing this in the poll numbers. I don’t see this as a great rejection of our governor,” said Jamie Miller, a Florida-based Republican strategist.

    A large part of that opportunity is pointing out the Crist appearance with Obama.

    “I was horrified,” Rubio said, adding that Crist canceled lunch at the governor’s mansion with former Gov. Jeb Bush and other former governors to be with Obama. “This was more than just a courtesy greeting, this was an embrace and a support of $800 billion of deficit spending.”

    Crist says he has no regrets about appearing with Obama.

    “I was happy and delighted to do so. I’m a civil guy. The president of the United States is the president of the United States,” Crist said. “Especially when it’s the first visit to Florida and I’m invited to be there. I have that kind of respect in my soul.”

    Rubio is positioning himself as the true conservative in the race, and he’s winning over those paying attention. He’s a gifted speaker who excites Republicans not just with delivery, but the substance of his remarks.

    “He’s more than articulate, he actually believes it. He is a Ronald Reagan/Jack Kemp Republican, the kind that understands why our values are good for every American regardless of where they are on the socio-economic scale,” said Sid Dinerstein, chairman of the Palm Beach County Republican Party. “He just totally gets it. It’s in his core.”

    Crist, on the other hand, has incredible political skills, but he’s more about “poll-tested sound bites,” Dinerstein said.

    “He doesn’t have the core beliefs,” Dinerstein said. “That’s not who he is.”

    While Rubio is talking in detail about federal spending and health care reform, Crist is boiling the issues down by describing them as “cockamamie” and “crazy.”

    But Crist does have lots of money, about $6 million in the bank compared with about $1 million for Rubio. Crist also has name recognition and the network built through four statewide campaigns, the last three of which he’s won comfortably.

    “That is just a huge plus,” said David Winston, a Washington-based Republican pollster. “Rubio’s clearly quite talented. Crist is a proven winner.”

    And Crist isn’t going to let Rubio have the spotlight to himself for long. The governor has already begun running two radio ads attempting to distance himself from Obama by criticizing the president for trying to spend his way to prosperity, ignoring his own support of the stimulus package.
    “I haven’t devoted a lot of time to day-to-day campaigning and doing campaign speeches,” Crist said. “As each day passes and we get closer to election day, we will continue to ratchet up. We have not begun to fight, but now we do.”

    I think Rubio has a chance, its up to voters to make the differeence though and get out of their Thomas-style “He can’t win, so we must vote for whoever ears the R” mentality.

48. #829891
    On October 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, love2rumba said:

    ears ….wears the R” mentality.

49. #829892
    On October 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, swede said:

    I saw that the President’s daughters have not been vaccinated against the SWINE flu (I am not PC enough to call it otherwise). But isn’t it a declared emergency thus sayeth the One?

    Yeah, good for thee but not me. I listened to the health folks in ‘76 and got the swine flu shot. Never been sicker before or since. As I recall more than 500 people developed Guillain-Barre syndrome (temporary paralysis) after receiving the vaccine and 25 died. I realize med tech is vastly improved, but still am not convinced.

    regularguy said:
    Just had to break down and contribute a bit of dough to Doug Hoffman’s campaign.

    Thought about it also, but geez there are a lot of seats up, and have already given to Giles’ and Moncreif’s defense funds this month. Guess I don’t know if the 23rd in NY is where to concentrate the effort

50. #829893
    On October 25th, 2009 at 6:59 pm, Reg.conservative said:

    First thank you Kingfish !
    About the 23 race Newt was on Fox this morning said big money was backing
    him.That is a lie,after Plain endorsed him it 100 grand in less than 24 hrs.
    Newt is done in my book for good.

51. #829894
    On October 25th, 2009 at 7:07 pm, simon77047 said:

    If this health care passes, this country is done. Finished, kaput. Thanks to all those who voted for the dems and obama. You know who you are. Have a nice day.

52. #829895
    On October 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pm, Reg.conservative said:

    http://tcotreport.com/23ny1.html
    This is a link to a story about how the 23 got into this mess.

53. #829896
    On October 25th, 2009 at 7:56 pm, floridaobserver said:

    Yes, Rubio is the real deal. Crist is an idiot. He has screwed up Florida big time. I am a conservative Republican and my friends and I want him OUT. He is such a lightweight. His radio ads are out there and they are such a crock. Rubio is getting my $$.

54. #829898
    On October 25th, 2009 at 8:02 pm, floridaobserver said:

    http://www.theobamafile.com/_associates/BillAyers.htm

    What’s Bernadine up to these days? Is she pulling the strings?

55. #829900
    On October 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On October 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pm, Reg.conservative said:

    That is the best argument for why it is usually better that a Democrat win than a uber-liberal Republican. That kind of Republican is worse than a Democrat. “Winning by surrender” is the stupidest strategy the Stupid Party ever came up with but that should be the GOP motto these days. Kind of like shooting yourself in the head before your enemy does.

56. #829901
    On October 25th, 2009 at 8:39 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    Its sunday evening. I have been reading about the very poorly attended dem party fund raiser in Boston. Odd, the left leaning websites are not talking about the event at all. LOL

57. #829903
    On October 25th, 2009 at 9:34 pm, AmericaFirst said:

    Thanks for the info. I just donated to Marco Rubio.

58. #829904
    On October 25th, 2009 at 9:40 pm, purealchemy said:

    “Mad Men” is on soon. AMC

    Be there or be square.

59. #829906
    On October 25th, 2009 at 9:51 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “If this health care passes, this country is done. Finished, kaput”

    No its not. Get a grip.

    And don’t you think the socialist left wants you to think that way?

    Anything Obama does can be undone. Look how quickly he’s reversed some of Bush’s agenda.

60. #829935
    On October 26th, 2009 at 1:13 am, love2rumba said:

    Anything Obama does can be undone. Look how quickly he’s reversed some of Bush’s agenda.

    That was well said.

61. #829941
    On October 26th, 2009 at 2:36 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    jsmiddleton4 said:
    Anything Obama does can be undone. Look how quickly he’s reversed some of Bush’s agenda.

    Possibly, hopefully; I have a deep suspicion that this is the time the Left feels they have to go for the whole ring. Their One World Carbon Tax for Climate Change is not going away despite the turn down in Copenhagen.

    It seems as if every news story, every wildlife show ends up about Climate Change. We shall see. How we can undo Obama is to be seen.

62. #829955
    On October 26th, 2009 at 8:41 am, graysonret said:

    Look how quickly he’s reversed some of Bush’s agenda.

    Ever notice that the ones who condemn “Bush’s agenda” are the same ones that passed his “agenda”? It’s like robbing a bank, getting caught and blaming it on someone’s suggestion. In politics, today, that’s a good defense. That “someone” gets punished and you walk away free and with the cash.

63. #829956
    On October 26th, 2009 at 8:41 am, graysonret said:

    Look how quickly he’s reversed some of Bush’s agenda.

    Ever notice that the ones who condemn “Bush’s agenda” are the same ones that passed his “agenda”? It’s like robbing a bank, getting caught and blaming it on someone’s suggestion. In politics, today, that’s a good defense. That “someone” gets punished and you walk away free and with the cash.

64. #830024
    On October 26th, 2009 at 10:50 am, BOB said:

    Anyone ever wondered why there is never a thread here on MM’s website specifically to discuss the past of Obama? No, not just the eligibility issue or the birth certificate. His past is generally largely a mystery. Bit’s and pieces have emerged, but much is under lock and key.

    Should I conclude that few care about his mysterious past?. Or is it that this subject is so off limits that virtually no one, including conservatives, wants to discuss it?

    I don’t get the reluctance to try to make sense out of who Obama is by looking at who he has been in the past in detail as great as possible.

    It matters to me.

    Here a copy of an e-mail I just sent to O’Reilly, who also refuses to take a close look at Obama’s past, please remember this is an “open” thread, I don’t want to get kicked off MM’s website for mentioning the unmentionable:

    Hi Mr. O’Reilly,

    Each day that passes American is being scammed. We have as president a man who is clearly not Constitutionally qualified to be president. The media, including Fox News and talk radio, refuse to utter a word about the massive scam that is obvious to millions of Americans.

    If the murky, uncertain past of Obama existed with any other president, the media talking heads would be trying to sort out the truth 24/7. In Obama’s case they all appear to be afraid of the truth. Any discussion of Obama’s eligibility can only lead to one conclusion….he is not eligible. The solution the media has chosen, through fear and intimidation most likely, is “we just won’t talk about it”.

    How can someone like you, with common-sense and integrity, be coerced into never having a guest on your show to discuss this issue? Joseph Farah from WND was scheduled, but your TV show cancelled him…why?

    There is absolutely no way that anyone who carefully researches this subject can conclude anything but that Obama is not eligible.

    If you have a different opinion on Obama’s eligibility, how about covering it on your show? Millions of Americans would love to see and hear the “proof” that has satisfied you on this issue. The ratings would be through the roof. Of course, in the interest of “fair and balanced”, someone from the opposite viewpoint would need to be on the show also.

    America has been scammed, punk’d, conned into electing an unconstitutional president. I suppose one could say this was fitting since he doesn’t seem to think too highly of the U.S. Constitution.

    Fox News is becoming no different than the rest of the media, and that saddens me greatly. If Obama should run for a second term, will his past be blown off as unimportant still again?

    There is going to be egg on the collective faces of the complacent media when this scam unravels, and it will.

    If Keyes vs. Obama makes it to the discovery stage the truth will be unveiled and the charade will end. If not, there will be other lawsuits and appeals and as the scam appears close to being broken I believe many who have not yet talked will, trying to avoid being forced to talk under oath in court. There are millions of Americans to whom the Constitution still matters.

    It you don’t believe anything I wrote here there is still no reasonable excuse for not discussing this issue in the media, and more specifically, on The O’Reilly Factor.

    Thanks,

    BOB

65. #830454
    On October 27th, 2009 at 1:24 am, zeroangel said:

    If anyone is still interested:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r_gWY-rCuE

66. #830502
    On October 27th, 2009 at 8:49 am, BOB said:

    I think my “birther” post just ahead of your post froze this thread in it’s tracks. LOL

    I listened to the Utube video and you held your own well against Hannity, especially considering his complete control of time.

    I try to stay out of discussing religion, but I will say that for me and the environment I have lived in for my 66 years here on Earth, the influence of religion has been much more of a positve influence than a negative one.

    It has served a useful purpose whatever it turns out to be at the end.

67. #830528
    On October 27th, 2009 at 9:28 am, zeroangel said:

    BOB:

    the influence of religion has been much more of a positve influence than a negative one.

    That may be true of yourself, but I doubt that your typical Muslim in the Mid East could say the same.

    Religion gets a special place making it insulated from criticism. The fundamentalists of all stripes take advantage of this.

    I’m glad you thought I did well against Sean. Thank you.