Cartoon of the day
Newt and Dede sitting in a tree, erasing lines between “R” and “D” (TobyToons via RedState):
The latest Club for Growth poll on NY-23 shows conservative candidate Doug Hoffman continuing his surge over the liberal Democrat and the radical leftist “R” in the race. (Caveats: Sample size is small and CfG is pro-Hoffman. Still. Hoffman’s got the mo’. Scozzafava has left-wing dough.)
The spoiler in this race is ACORN-friendly, Big Labor-embracing, tax-and-spender Dede Scozzafava. There is nothing — nothing — “mooooderate” about her.
Who’s making the “mistake?”
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Thanks for the Monday laugh cartoon Michelle. We need more things to laugh at with all the crud we are going through in the Republic.
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This could be the end of that corrupt 3rd party known as Republicans.
Great cartoon, especially since Newt is talking out the side of his face.
Only 300 sample size? That is really low. The other polls have had over twice the sample size. And who is Basswood? I am not willing to say that the poll is invalid just because Club for Growth is one of Hoffman’s biggest contributers, but this poll doesn’t it right with me.
The cartoon would be a hundred times more effective and a thousand times more truthful if they used their middle fingers.
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Or more truthfully them bending over and just telling us to kiss their grits….
Let this fact and other facts-to-be in races up to 2010 put a stake into plans for the likes of Gingrich and any other wishy-washy moderate seeking runs at public office.
Perfect depiction of Newt. The guy speaks with forked tongue. Listen to him on Hannity and he’s sound great. In reality, he is a clueless panderer and still does not understand what is happening. He is only helping in the leftward drift of the Republican party. There is nothing “moderate” about the Republicans now – they are the Democrat Party of 1968.
And that R seems to be a wishbone ole’ Newt and friend are willing to split. But let’s double our efforts in supporting Hoffmann. If the cartoon RINO and Hoffmann both lose and the district goes D so be it; the message is sent. We will NOT continue to support a Party that does not support, does not represent, us.
Yes “Now is the Time for all Good Men to come to the Aid of Their Party” and we do so by knee capping the Grand Poobahs and just say NO. And if that does not work we need to take a walk.
(Did Dede and ole’ Newt borrow those ears from Obama? Love that cartoon.)
I don’t understand the republican party. They were soundly defeated for being too democrat, so they put up another democrat posing as a republican and keep polishing and polishing the turd. Either they get back to being the party of Reagan or a real conservative party will replace it.
Out with the old: Gingrich, McCain, ALL Rhinos.
In with the new: Palin, Jindal, Hoffman, etc.
Recruit: Dr. Rice, Gen. Patreus, etc.
Rebuild. Throw out the trash.
Newt is a very intelligent, patriotic man, but I am really disappointed with him, and have been for the last several years.
He has been so busy writing books about America, I think he’s failed to judge America’s current change in temperance for moderation.
Much like the Democrat Party, the term “moderate” has been co-opted by liberals, and has been used as a way to infiltrate the GOP, and flood it with closet liberals. This has to stop.
One cannot compromise with Democrats, under the traditional interpretation of that term. To compromise with Democrats is to surrender conservative values for the sake of just getting along. They give up nothing.
It has become more clear, that in the last several years, with the liberals in controlling Congress, the only reason they seek so-called “bi-partisan” support, is to have the Republican Party to blame when the legislation does not accomplish it’s stated goals.
On the other hand, the Democrats do achieve their primary goal…self enrichment.
Newt needs to take a breath, kick back, and take a look at the big picture. He is not helping conservatives re-establish sanity in government by cavorting with the far-left back-stabbers, and the racist prevaricators.
Nor is he doing the country he loves any favors by endorsing candidates like DeDe who are NOT good for America.
Fixed it for ya.
You can’t get anywhere on a road built on top of manure.
No matter how many times we pave it over, its only ever going to be worth s…
Short term thinking got us short shrift, we have think a lot further down the road.
Actually, in NY 23, we have quite the opposite: manure on top of roads.
From the farmers driving their spreaders from field to field.
So Newt and the Republican party value pragmatism more than principle. Isn’t that just like a DemocRAT, whose only “principle” is, do literally whatever it takes to get and stay in power?
As I think Winston Churchill said dryly about a particularly feckless politician of his time, “He has no principles that he cannot rise above”. That statement, of course applies to every liberal I’ve ever seen…why do the Republicans want to be as unprincipled as the RATs? Why vote in someone who has an “R” by their name but who votes with the RATs?
Who’s making the “mistake?”
That remains to be seen.
Hoffman has already violated a pledge to live with the process and outcome (selecting a candidate) of the various Republican Committees in the NY23rd.
What other pledges will Hoffman violate?
OK, Scozzafava lied about screaming, and Hoffman breaks his word.
A 300 sample size, if individuals were selected randomly from that district, is more than enough numbers to conduct an effective survey. The thing to be concerned with is what questions were asked and did they ask those questions from those already properly registered to vote?, for example.
Certainly if you have enough funds to do a survey over 600, you could do your t-statistics with the degrees of freedom set to infinity,but if computed properly for size n, it really doesn’t matter if everything else was done well from a statician/pollsters perspective.
I just mailed off four GOP surveys with “NO RINOs” and “REAGAN CONSERVATISM OR NO $$$”. And, I didn’t use my own stamp to save them money as the envelopes suggested.
And that from someone who has to untie their shoelaces in order to reach the keyboard.
In my view, this episode, Newt supporting another liberal or liberal cause, signals the end of his conservative bona fides.
What ever happened to the Republican platform? Can’t they get one out from years past, dust it off and read the damned thing for once?
All your doing with the support of Hoffmann over Scozzafava is splitting the conservative vote, which means yet another seat for Democrats in the House.
[zyzzyg said: That remains to be seen}
If you read the whole thing it did not sound that way to me.
After he found out what went on at the closed get together ,that makes it a lot different.
It made it quite clear on page 2.
The birdman has returned…
A typical liberal response. Attack the messenger and not discuss the message. Did Scozzafava lie about screaming? Did Hoffman break his pledge?
Iowahawk endorses Hoffman. That seals the deal for me.
Ummmm, no. Did you happen to read MM’s post? Do you know what the last four words of her post are? Did you happen to notice in my post that there were four words in italics?
Yep, Hoffman agreed to the process . . . before it began. Did he know what that process would be? I hope so.
Did he make it past the first ballott? Nope.
Had Maroun won instead of Scozzafava would Hoffman run as a Conservative? I doubt it.
Did Maroun live up to the pledge? Did Maroun turn down the Conservatives reach out to run in opposition to the Republican Candidate? Yes, and heck yes.
Hoffman did not like the results and he wanted a second bite at the apple. Do you want to jusitfy Hoffman’s breaking his pledge because he did not like the outcome?
Like it, or not, there are rules. Play by the rules, or don’t. Don’t say you will, and then change your mind. What other pledges might Hoffman break?
Honorable people keep their word.
So you do have to untie your shoelaces to reach the keyboard.
There are three conclusions one can come to with Scuzzafava being supported by Newt, the RNC, etc.
1. They didn’t vet her at all which makes them incompetent.
2. They DID vet her, knew what they were getting, and don’t care what GOP voters think.
3. BOTH 1 and 2.
I just sent a survey back to the NRSC with a big zero in magic marker and the statement that “Nobody in the GOP has the spine to address the issues in their survey.”
So it’s better to roll over and vote for the ACORN/Big Labor supporter?
Thanks for the political advice but go back to your crayons.
Honorable people don’t put up a radical leftist like Scuzzafava and claim they are a Republican.
Perhaps Hoffman decided what would happen to the party and country with her in office was more important.
What does honor have to do with your political identification? There are honorable people of all political persuasions who say they will follow the rules. If you don’t follow the rules that you say you will, whatever your political persuasion, you are not honorable.
Really? You are justifying his breaking his pledge. Really? There are pledges that are more important than others? Then don’t keep making pledges. Especially, ones that you can’t live up to.
What if Hoffman violates another pledge because he sees something as more important? Like the no tax pledge? Is that, OK?
He did not know a 13 year old family member became pregnant. Should he violate his pro-life position because it is important for some unknown reason and allow the termination of the pregnancy?
Should Hoffman smile and grin while handing out stimulus checks (as others have who did not vote for the bill)? Would that violate his position on the stimulus bill? Or, is it OK for him to hand out stimulus checks because the money is there anyway, and it is important?
Tax pledge? Well, there might be an important reason to violate that pledge, too.
Hoffman has demonstrated that he is willing to violate a pledge. You have demonstrated that you will accpet violating pledges, if it is important.
Does this make Hoffman and you honorable? Well, you have not violated any pledges, but have made excuses for doing so. Exactly what is honorable about you and Hoffman? It must be important.
Scozzafava isn’t a conservative
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That remains to be seen, OMU, go worry about the problems in your own tent.
If Hoffmann wasn’t running the seat would be won by a democrat or an Arlen Specter type
republicandemocrat. Either way conservatives lose. With Hoffmann conservatism has a chance.Beck talked about this yesterday. I agree with him that I am no longer going to “hold my nose” and vote for people like McLame. If enough people vote for Hoffman he’ll win. Dede and the other Democrat aren’t a shoe-in for the position.
I don’t listen to Newt anymore. He doesn’t speak for conservatives.
if hoffman doesn’t win, the people of the district have a choice between two democrats, so who cares about a split vote. as hoffman said on an interview the democrat is more conservative than scuzzy.
Even if Hoffmann comes in a strong second, this is a loud message to the political establishment in this country. Conservatives cannot be ignored and we are finding our voice. Someone mentioned no longer voting for the McLames out there who were hand picked for us. Right on!
Someone here is afraid that Hoffmann won’t be who he says he is (well, you aren’t on the Conservative side anyway, but is a decent point) this election still is a good test of the conservative organization.
In the future, if we have to, start supporting and fronting our own candidates on the local levels and make our way national.
Strange times, but exciting and encouraging.