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	<title>Comments on: The fit hits the shan: Reid to announce public-option plan; Update: Where&#8217;s the beef?</title>
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		<title>By: Blackstone</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/26/the-fit-hits-the-shan-reid-to-announce-public-option-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-831008</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackstone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From chapoutier&#039;s link:
&lt;blockquote&gt;None of the experts detected a downward, or cooling, trend in the numbers. All saw a distinct upward trend.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So in other words, the temperature apparently rose between 1880 and 2009, and between 1979 and 2009.  That doesn&#039;t mean temperatures haven&#039;t flatlined or come down slightly since 1998.  In fact, &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;they have&lt;/a&gt;. And it&#039;s not something that the much-vaunted computer models were able to predict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From chapoutier&#8217;s link:</p>
<blockquote><p>None of the experts detected a downward, or cooling, trend in the numbers. All saw a distinct upward trend.</p></blockquote>
<p>So in other words, the temperature apparently rose between 1880 and 2009, and between 1979 and 2009.  That doesn&#8217;t mean temperatures haven&#8217;t flatlined or come down slightly since 1998.  In fact, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm" rel="nofollow">they have</a>. And it&#8217;s not something that the much-vaunted computer models were able to predict.</p>
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		<title>By: b-cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/26/the-fit-hits-the-shan-reid-to-announce-public-option-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-830713</link>
		<dc:creator>b-cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been known for sometime that the devices for reading temperatures have been placed in rather interesting places, like rooftops, parking lots, and next to AC units. Much of the data is tainted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been known for sometime that the devices for reading temperatures have been placed in rather interesting places, like rooftops, parking lots, and next to AC units. Much of the data is tainted.</p>
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		<title>By: chapoutier</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/26/the-fit-hits-the-shan-reid-to-announce-public-option-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-830703</link>
		<dc:creator>chapoutier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Sorry, chap. I don’t for one minute think the AP is neutral on the issue.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Those loony statisticians with their blind data are in the tank too?</description>
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<p>Sorry, chap. I don’t for one minute think the AP is neutral on the issue.
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<p>Those loony statisticians with their blind data are in the tank too?</p>
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		<title>By: b-cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/26/the-fit-hits-the-shan-reid-to-announce-public-option-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-830693</link>
		<dc:creator>b-cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, chap. I don&#039;t for one minute think the AP is neutral on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, chap. I don&#8217;t for one minute think the AP is neutral on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: chapoutier</title>
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		<dc:creator>chapoutier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;even died in the wool kool-aid drinkers should question the entire premise of MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING, but our smartest humans in the colleges doing research judge intended results rather than actual results on their experiments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From today:


&lt;blockquote&gt;The Associated Press sought independent statistical analyses of global temperatures to determine if there is a true cooling of Earth&#039;s climate.

The AP contacted University of South Carolina statistics professor John Grego, a longtime reliable statistics source. In addition, the American Statistical Association sent an e-mail request from the AP seeking statisticians willing to examine certain sets of numbers and look for trends without being told what those numbers represented.

Three professors of statistics agreed: David Peterson, retired from Duke University; Mack Shelley, director of public policy and administration at Iowa State University; and Edward Melnick from New York University.

Each was given two spreadsheets, neither of which had any indication they were temperature data.

One spreadsheet was year-by-year global temperature changes from 1880 to 2009, adjusted through most of this year from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration&#039;s ground measurements. The other was year-to-year temperature changes from 1979-2009 gathered by scientists at the University of Alabama in Huntsville from atmospheric measurements by satellite.

None of the experts detected a downward, or cooling, trend in the numbers. All saw a distinct upward trend.

This type of blind test is a valid way of seeking statistical help by trying to keep the statisticians&#039; personal beliefs out of any analysis, said Alan Karr, director of the National Institute of Statistical Sciences. But there is a downside from keeping statisticians in the dark because it ties their hands a bit and may make it difficult to determine trends from variation, he said.

After their analysis, all the statisticians were told that the numbers represented temperature changes. All stuck by their assessments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>even died in the wool kool-aid drinkers should question the entire premise of MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING, but our smartest humans in the colleges doing research judge intended results rather than actual results on their experiments.</p></blockquote>
<p>From today:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Associated Press sought independent statistical analyses of global temperatures to determine if there is a true cooling of Earth&#8217;s climate.</p>
<p>The AP contacted University of South Carolina statistics professor John Grego, a longtime reliable statistics source. In addition, the American Statistical Association sent an e-mail request from the AP seeking statisticians willing to examine certain sets of numbers and look for trends without being told what those numbers represented.</p>
<p>Three professors of statistics agreed: David Peterson, retired from Duke University; Mack Shelley, director of public policy and administration at Iowa State University; and Edward Melnick from New York University.</p>
<p>Each was given two spreadsheets, neither of which had any indication they were temperature data.</p>
<p>One spreadsheet was year-by-year global temperature changes from 1880 to 2009, adjusted through most of this year from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration&#8217;s ground measurements. The other was year-to-year temperature changes from 1979-2009 gathered by scientists at the University of Alabama in Huntsville from atmospheric measurements by satellite.</p>
<p>None of the experts detected a downward, or cooling, trend in the numbers. All saw a distinct upward trend.</p>
<p>This type of blind test is a valid way of seeking statistical help by trying to keep the statisticians&#8217; personal beliefs out of any analysis, said Alan Karr, director of the National Institute of Statistical Sciences. But there is a downside from keeping statisticians in the dark because it ties their hands a bit and may make it difficult to determine trends from variation, he said.</p>
<p>After their analysis, all the statisticians were told that the numbers represented temperature changes. All stuck by their assessments.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: cheapseat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you mean spirited republicans, and you too chappie.  don&#039;t you know our eating meat is what is causing this global warming which has produced the coldest october on record in most of the states.  even died in the wool kool-aid drinkers should question the entire premise of MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING, but our smartest humans in the colleges doing research judge intended results rather than actual results on their experiments.  after all, why judge what actually happens when judging intended  results is so much more p.c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you mean spirited republicans, and you too chappie.  don&#8217;t you know our eating meat is what is causing this global warming which has produced the coldest october on record in most of the states.  even died in the wool kool-aid drinkers should question the entire premise of MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING, but our smartest humans in the colleges doing research judge intended results rather than actual results on their experiments.  after all, why judge what actually happens when judging intended  results is so much more p.c.</p>
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		<title>By: jangar</title>
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		<dc:creator>jangar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sea Kittens and Fuzzy Bunnies deserves a rich and robust lager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sea Kittens and Fuzzy Bunnies deserves a rich and robust lager.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogue Cheddar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogue Cheddar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On October 27th, 2009 at 9:45 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said: 
b-cat 
“The nasty Republicans are against fuzzy bunnies”!
Fuzzy bunnies are particularly good with mashed potatoes and gravy, perhaps some mint sauce. I’ll have to check with Chappy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Those who partake of the Surf &amp; Turf, who lean towards the Surf side of things, may I suggest the &quot;Sea Kittens&quot;? They&#039;re particularly rich and tender this time of year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On October 27th, 2009 at 9:45 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:<br />
b-cat<br />
“The nasty Republicans are against fuzzy bunnies”!<br />
Fuzzy bunnies are particularly good with mashed potatoes and gravy, perhaps some mint sauce. I’ll have to check with Chappy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Those who partake of the Surf &amp; Turf, who lean towards the Surf side of things, may I suggest the &#8220;Sea Kittens&#8221;? They&#8217;re particularly rich and tender this time of year.</p>
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		<title>By: chapoutier</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/26/the-fit-hits-the-shan-reid-to-announce-public-option-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-830562</link>
		<dc:creator>chapoutier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fuzzy bunnies are particularly good with mashed potatoes and gravy, perhaps some mint sauce. I’ll have to check with Chappy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your post inspired me to go pull one of my favorite cookbooks from college and check out the fuzzy bunny recipe we made from that my junior year.

&quot;Lapin crépu sauté à la moutarde et au romarin&quot;

The cookbook suggested a dry white to serve with it. I would go with a Pinot Noir, preferably one from Oregon or Burgundy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fuzzy bunnies are particularly good with mashed potatoes and gravy, perhaps some mint sauce. I’ll have to check with Chappy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your post inspired me to go pull one of my favorite cookbooks from college and check out the fuzzy bunny recipe we made from that my junior year.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lapin crépu sauté à la moutarde et au romarin&#8221;</p>
<p>The cookbook suggested a dry white to serve with it. I would go with a Pinot Noir, preferably one from Oregon or Burgundy.</p>
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		<title>By: b-cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/26/the-fit-hits-the-shan-reid-to-announce-public-option-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-830559</link>
		<dc:creator>b-cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Reid whines about lack of “moderate” Republicans. “I can count them on two fingers.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

NO, NO!! Don&#039;t tell me, I&#039;m keen to guess. Now let me see, hmmm... uh... could it be...uhhh...McCain... and uh... Graham?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Reid whines about lack of “moderate” Republicans. “I can count them on two fingers.”</p></blockquote>
<p>NO, NO!! Don&#8217;t tell me, I&#8217;m keen to guess. Now let me see, hmmm&#8230; uh&#8230; could it be&#8230;uhhh&#8230;McCain&#8230; and uh&#8230; Graham?</p>
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		<title>By: Riehl World View</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riehl World View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Public Option That Isn&#039;t Optional...&lt;/strong&gt;

The public option proposals I&#039;m aware of to date are not optional at all. They come with a time limit. And after that date is reached, there&#039;s goes the optional part. If they pass this disaster, the Left will continue......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Public Option That Isn&#8217;t Optional&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The public option proposals I&#8217;m aware of to date are not optional at all. They come with a time limit. And after that date is reached, there&#8217;s goes the optional part. If they pass this disaster, the Left will continue&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: b-cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/26/the-fit-hits-the-shan-reid-to-announce-public-option-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-830542</link>
		<dc:creator>b-cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang, &lt;strong&gt;AN&lt;/strong&gt;. 

I just got up and already hungry for lunch. I wonder if I still have any fuzzy bunny in the fridge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, <strong>AN</strong>. </p>
<p>I just got up and already hungry for lunch. I wonder if I still have any fuzzy bunny in the fridge?</p>
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		<title>By: ArizonaNeanderthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArizonaNeanderthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;b-cat &lt;/strong&gt;
“The nasty Republicans are against fuzzy bunnies”!&lt;/blockquote&gt; Fuzzy bunnies are particularly good with mashed potatoes and gravy, perhaps some mint sauce. I&#039;ll have to check with Chappy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>b-cat </strong><br />
“The nasty Republicans are against fuzzy bunnies”!</p></blockquote>
<p> Fuzzy bunnies are particularly good with mashed potatoes and gravy, perhaps some mint sauce. I&#8217;ll have to check with Chappy.</p>
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		<title>By: b-cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>b-cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A government-sponsored “public option” for health care lives, though it may be more attractive to skeptics if it goes by a different moniker, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Monday.

In an appearance at a Florida senior center, the Democratic leader referred to the so-called public option as “the consumer option.” Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., appeared by Pelosi’s side and used the term “competitive option.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How about the &quot;happy joy option&quot;, or the &quot;fuzzy bunny option&quot;? No one would oppose bills with such names. 

&quot;The nasty Republicans are against fuzzy bunnies&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A government-sponsored “public option” for health care lives, though it may be more attractive to skeptics if it goes by a different moniker, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Monday.</p>
<p>In an appearance at a Florida senior center, the Democratic leader referred to the so-called public option as “the consumer option.” Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., appeared by Pelosi’s side and used the term “competitive option.”</p></blockquote>
<p>How about the &#8220;happy joy option&#8221;, or the &#8220;fuzzy bunny option&#8221;? No one would oppose bills with such names. </p>
<p>&#8220;The nasty Republicans are against fuzzy bunnies&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: AmericanPatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmericanPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On October 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, southdakotaboy said: 
First!

&lt;strong&gt;Anyway if they do this they will get their heads handed to them in the midterms.&lt;/&lt;/strong&gt;blockquote&gt;

We can&#039;t let them get anything through.
&lt;strong&gt;Mid-terms are too late.&lt;/strong&gt;
They&#039;ll have a structure in place and all we could possibly do is monkey around inside it.
Government programs are never repealed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On October 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm, southdakotaboy said:<br />
First!</p>
<p><strong>Anyway if they do this they will get their heads handed to them in the midterms.&lt;/</strong>blockquote&gt;</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t let them get anything through.<br />
<strong>Mid-terms are too late.</strong><br />
They&#8217;ll have a structure in place and all we could possibly do is monkey around inside it.<br />
Government programs are never repealed</p></blockquote>
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