Horror in Knoxville update: Guilty verdict in Christian-Newsom murders

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 28, 2009 04:51 PM

The Christian-Newsom murder case has never received much national media attention, but it touched countless Americans across the country who have not forgotten. Here’s the latest development. Keep the victims’ families in your prayers:

The man accused of being the ringleader of a carjacking that turned into the rapes and murders of a Tennessee couple was convicted of the most serious charges and now faces the death penalty.

The jury, which deliberated a little more than 8 hours before returning the verdict against Lemaricus Davidson, 28, Tuesday was hearing evidence Wednesday on whether to sentence him to death.

Davidson was tried on 38 counts, including premeditated murder, felony murder, robbery, kidnapping, rape and theft in the 2007 deaths of University of Tennessee student Channon Christian, 21, and her boyfriend Christopher Newsom, 23.

The only not guilty findings were on three counts relating to the rape of Newsom, and Davidson was found guilty of the lesser crime of facilitation on those counts.

Davidson showed no emotion as he heard the jury’s verdict. Newsom’s family followed the readings closely but showed little reaction, while Christian’s father rocked back and forth and occasionally pumped his fist as guilty verdicts were announced.

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  1. #1
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    Next stop-The gas chamber for the low form of flesh from Memphis!

    GSP
    RIP Christian and Newsome

  2. #2
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:04 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, Hopefully the 8 hrs of deliberation were for 1 minute to convict this scumbag and 7 hrs and 59 min to figure out what size rusty needle they’ll need to use.

  3. #3
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:07 pm, max said:

    eight hours huh? hmmmm. unbelievable. we really need to rethink this whole trial-by-jury thing.

  4. #4
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Common Sense said:

    Sometimes I think we should still practice “an eye for an eye”. These evil scum certainly deserve more than the easy death they’ll get at the hands of the states after 20 years of appeals.

  5. #5
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, max said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Common Sense said:
    Sometimes I think we should still practice “an eye for an eye”. These evil scum certainly deserve more than the easy death they’ll get at the hands of the states after 20 years of appeals.

    We can only hope there’s an empty trash can in hell waiting for these pigs

  6. #6
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, docflash said:

    I say get a rope.Wait, can I say that?

  7. #7
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, The Master said:

    This double torture-murder wasn’t all that bad. After all, it doesn’t even rise to the level of a “hate crime” under the bogus new federal hate crime statute. Now if Christian or Newsom were gay, and Davidson slapped them while yelling “you homo,” then THAT would be a hate crime. You really can’t make this stuff up.

  8. #8
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, RTater said:

    Gas? Needles? Rope?

    Where is your sense of justice?

    For these crimes, appropriate forms of execution should include:
    The Brazen Bull
    Carding
    Scaphism (and its variations)
    The Five Pains (if done slowly enough)
    Immurement
    Choking or anal pear
    crocodile shears (especially suited for the crimes in question)
    the knee splitter, at least for starters
    the whirligig, assuming they are left in it until they expire
    the Judas cradle
    I don’t remember the name, but basically it consisted of putting the condemned inside the carcass of a hollowed-out donkey, sewing it up with them inside, and then setting the whole thing out in the sun of a desert.
    and the Spanish tickler (it’s not nearly as fun as it sounds)

  9. #9
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, Kingfish said:

    Justice will be done. The wheel may turn slowly, but it does rotate.

    Saw where the senior DC Sniper partner is getting ready for his dirt nap in a few weeks.

    The question now becomes: “Which level of Dante’s Inferno will these miscreant abberations reside?”

  10. #10
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:24 pm, jeffshultz said:

    I figure that with 38 counts, 8 hours is about right. Polling each count takes time after all.

    …and you don’t want to give his appeal any bite by making it appear you didn’t give full consideration to the verdict.

  11. #11
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, spaceycakes said:

    about bloody time

  12. #12
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:29 pm, blues said:

    Will they be eligible for a Presidential pardon?If so,they’ll probably get one.Scumbags of a feather flock together.

  13. #13
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, jangar said:

    Justice will be done. The wheel may turn slowly, but it does rotate.

    Sometimes it turns rather quickly..just depends on who’s pushing the cart, and where the cart is.

  14. #14
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI COMMONSENSE–The “eye for an eye” concept in the Bible is there to prevent excess punishments. If a person stole a sheep–he had to return the sheep and a lamb–interest and penalty for the crime. Killing the “perp” for theft would have changed a just punishment to vengeance. “Let the punishment fit the crime” is the modern translation of the eye for an eye statements.
    ***
    I worked with a technician who had lived in Saudi Arabia for 5 years–in the 1960′s. He and his wife were going to the outside market to buy vegetables after the Islamic Holy Day services. A group of soldiers and police entered the market and ordered all there to go to the plaza to witness the punishment of criminals according to the King’s orders.
    ***
    The technician protested that he was American–not Saudi–it didn’t matter. When they got to the plaza one of the soldiers said that there had been some careless bus driving accidents that had killed pedestrians. The king had ordered “eye for an eye” punishments for the next deadly accidents.
    ***
    A hapless bus driver had been found guilty of carelessly driving over and killing a pedestrian a few weeks earlier. He was tied down to the pavement, the charges, guilty verdict, and the King’s order for his death were read to all present. Then a soldier drove the same bus over his head and killed him.
    ***
    The murderers of the two young people in this case will pay for their crimes with their lives. It should happen within a 1 year time frame if one appeal still confirms their guilt. However, it will take years.
    ***
    Lethal injection or the gas chamber seems appropriate. The “eye for an eye” principle doesn’t require the same painful abuse and death–removing the perps from our society should be enough.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  15. #15
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm, jangar said:

    Will they be eligible for a Presidential pardon?

    In Obama’s America, anything is possible.

  16. #16
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, AmericaFirst said:

    I encourage everyone, women, college students, elderly to own a firearm and be properly trained to know when and how to use it. Register a conceal-and-carry permit if your state allows. I have mine and carry my concealed gun every where I go. Just the other day an off duty security guard saved a psychiatrist’s life by pulling out his concealed gun and shot dead the stabbing perpetrator.

  17. #17
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:39 pm, mojo said:

    It’s not pretty, but it’s true: Some people just need killing.

  18. #18
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, RTater said:

    Gas? Needles? Rope?

    Where is your sense of justice?

    For these crimes, appropriate forms of execution should include:
    The Brazen Bull
    Carding
    Scaphism (and its variations)
    The Five Pains (if done slowly enough)
    Immurement
    Choking or anal pear
    crocodile shears (especially suited for the crimes in question)
    the knee splitter, at least for starters
    the whirligig, assuming they are left in it until they expire
    the Judas cradle
    I don’t remember the name, but basically it consisted of putting the condemned inside the carcass of a hollowed-out donkey, sewing it up with them inside, and then setting the whole thing out in the sun of a desert.
    and the Spanish tickler (it’s not nearly as fun as it sounds)

    A man after my own heart…

  19. #19
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:44 pm, Dimsdale said:

    The definition of Homicide
    n. The slaying of one human being by another. There are four kinds of homocide: felonious, excusable, justifiable, and praiseworthy, but it makes no great difference to the person slain whether he fell by one kind or another — the classification is for advantage of the lawyers.

    The Devil’s Dictonary by Ambrose Bierce

  20. #20
    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:46 pm, walterc said:

    I only hope he doesn’t write a children’s book while waiting for the 20 years of appeals to run. I don’t think I could handle the leftist “free Davidson” rallies.

  21. #21
    On October 28th, 2009 at 6:04 pm, zorro said:

    Keep the victims’ families in your prayers:

    Yes, may God the Father Almighty comfort them and hold them close during these trying times.

  22. #22
    On October 28th, 2009 at 6:06 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Give the jury a break on this. Eight hours to deliberate 38 separate counts? I am not sure that an unreasonable amount of time.

    I hope they spend at least as much time deliberating before they sentence him to death so they can avoid a bunch of moronic appeals…

  23. #23
    On October 28th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, orlandocajun said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, RTater said:

    Tater, you forgot…lock one of the dads in the room with the guy and give him a machete.

  24. #24
    On October 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pm, rowsdower said:

    He’ll probably be sentenced to community service as a Dem poll observer in 2012.

  25. #25
    On October 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pm, mattm said:

    Claims of of Racism is 3…2…1

  26. #26
    On October 28th, 2009 at 6:48 pm, Hangfire said:

    All capital punishment should be in the center court of a shopping mall, the modern equivalent of the town square. People should be able to bring their kids to witness it (especially “know-it-all” teens) as an example of what happens to sociopaths.

    Sometimes, a bad example can be just as illuminating as a good one.

  27. #27
    On October 28th, 2009 at 6:59 pm, jangar said:

    mattm said:
    Claims of of Racism is 3…2…1

    Doubtful. MSM won’t cover it, especially now adays.

  28. #28
    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:05 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    It is appalling the amount of money that will be wasted on this piece of trash.

    one .22 bullet, 5 seconds, done. Cost: about $0.026.

  29. #29
    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:14 pm, Kingfish said:

    Speak Easy… But a .22 Magnum works just as well and you can get them on special prices for bulk orders

  30. #30
    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:18 pm, jangar said:

    Kingfish said:
    Speak Easy… But a .22 Magnum works just as well and you can get them on special prices for bulk orders

    And they work really great on those pesky armadillos too!

    Come to think of it, I don’t think there’s much that a .22 mag won’t kill…

  31. #31
    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:26 pm, right_on said:

    Had the fair trial…now hang him!

    …or if the NAACP, Jackson, Sharpton, Shabazz, and many others had their way; unlimited appeals, court appointed lawyers, SSI benefits, stimulus checks, free healthcare, until he reached old age, and then release him for “humanitarian” reasons…after all, it was the oppressive whiteys in the bad old U.S. of KKK” that made him commit those crimes.

  32. #32
    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:32 pm, jangar said:

    right_on said:

    …or if the NAACP, Jackson, Sharpton, Shabazz, and many others had their way…

    …kitchen appliances, Cadillac, rent…

  33. #33
    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:42 pm, starlightwoman said:

    Anyone remember how Jacque De Molay was punished even though he was innocent. I think it would be appropriate for this trash. First rub the feet with pigsfat (Lard is sold in grocery stores throughout the South) then put them over an open flame. We can ressurect a rack – nothing like a little stretching. Then we can tie him to a post and set him aflame. show him a little torture.

  34. #34
    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:47 pm, jangar said:

    starlightwoman said

    Wow!

    What ever happened to the old fashioned nail the nad sack to a stump and push ‘em over backwards technique?

  35. #35
    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:59 pm, Rob said:

    I see Michelle didn’t include a picture of “Lemaricus” (what a good American name)… I mean, he isn’t BLACK is he? Because if he is, then even talking about this is RAAAAAACIST!

    …Slavery was SUCH a mistake.

    …sigh…

  36. #36
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:02 pm, Rob said:

    Last January [2007], two Knoxville, Tennessee residents, college student Channon Christian –21 yrs. old, set to graduate this year, and her boyfriend Chris Newsom –23 yrs. old, were minding their own business and going about their own lives when they were carjacked by two black males, Devall Davidson and Letalvis Darnell Cobbins.

    Just taking Christian’s Toyota 4-Runner wasn’t all these two had in mind, they kidnapped the boyfriend/girlfriend pair and forced Christian and Newsom to accompany them back to their ‘seedy rental house,’ where they then enlisted the help of two others, including a black female named Vanessa Coleman and proceeded to sodomize Chris Newsom in front of Channon before they emasculated [castrated] him and shot him in the head. He was then “bound and his body wrapped up in bedding and set afire,” prior to being “discarded like trash along nearby railroad tracks.”

    A most horrific and unimaginable fate awaited Channon….after being traumatized by seeing her boyfriend raped [sodomized] and executed before her eyes, the three males, Davidson, Cobbins and George Thomas with the assistance of the female Vanessa Coleman, proceeded to subject Channon to a brutal and continuous series of rapes, including sodomy and God knows what else over a period of two days inside that house – they literally tortured her in ways that defy even the most jaded imagination for two days! Later her “battered body was found stuffed in a trash can”.

    “Battered” in this case means that she was dismembered so that her corpse would fit neatly into several plastic bags. According to Vanessa Coleman, after they tired of torturing and raping Channon, the men urinated on her, and poured “cleaning chemicals” into her mouth and down her throat in an effort to destroy the physical evidence they had left behind. They then inexplicably cut off her breasts, dismembered her body and threw it in a trash can at the residence.

    OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, YES WE CAN!

  37. #37
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:09 pm, zeroangel said:

    Good riddance.

  38. #38
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pm, jangar said:

    mmm, mmm, mmm

  39. #39
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:15 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Gas? Needles? Rope?

    Any will do, I always thought hanging was most just. I would prefer at least a semi-public hanging-let the gangbangers and thugs see their future. The center court of a shopping mall wouldn’t be bad either.

    Truly horrendous murders such as Christian-Newsom now catch our attention and we demand blood-but it should be the crime that determines the sentence. The murder of wife or husband, the convenience store clerk, the passing tourist are all murders of the innocent and cry out for vengeance–hang the perpetrators for the crime. We do need a better review process–all too many people are in prison who do not belong there and we have the ability to double check if we will. But murder must be punished in the most sever manner.

    We could have a Christian-Newsom Act: we do not care if your mother was harsh, we do not care if you have unfulfilled potential, writers and actors like you: if you deliberately, or in the commission of a crime, cause the death of an innocent or even a fellow criminal we will hang you. We are told capital punishment is not a deterrent- I do not believe that and if it is true hang them anyway for what they have done. We do know “rehabilitation” does not work. All too many murders get life, later reduced-paroled and kill again. Hang them the first time.

  40. #40
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:19 pm, Kingfish said:

    What would Count de Monet do?

  41. #41
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:28 pm, cheapseat said:

    draw and quarter them with 4×4 pickup trucks at the monster truck rallies. you know, halftime entertainment.

  42. #42
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:32 pm, jangar said:

    We are told capital punishment is not a deterrent

    Simply because we don’t do it often enough, nor make a public spectacle of it.

  43. #43
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:36 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 7:05 pm, SpeakEasy said:
    It is appalling the amount of money that will be wasted on this piece of trash.

    one .22 bullet, 5 seconds, done. Cost: about $0.026.

    Don’t forget the Double Tap! I’ll pitch in for the second bullet. We don’t want these bastages to rise again!

  44. #44
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:36 pm, rightisright said:

    kill the bastard just the way he killed the innocent young couple and may his soul rot in hell.

  45. #45
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:52 pm, rightisright said:

    But a .22 Magnum works just as well and you can get them on special prices for bulk orders

    hmmm…would the bulk orders be for all the other scum sitting on death row across the country…one can only dream at times?

  46. #46
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:55 pm, Grey Fox said:

    Golly, you guys are bloodthirsty.

    A life for a life, that is justice. Torturing him to death in an effort to inflict as much pain as possible to satisfy our rage, that is mere vengeance. Kill him quickly and cleanly, like civilized men.

  47. #47
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:55 pm, Kingfish said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:52 pm, rightisright said:

    hmmm…would the bulk orders be for all the other scum sitting on death row across the country…one can only dream at times?

    You got that one right. Aint no fooling you/

  48. #48
    On October 28th, 2009 at 9:14 pm, travlinman said:

    I’d love to have some quality time alone with each of these pieces of crap. We’d have us a little ‘come to Jesus’ session if you know what I mean. Wouldn’t matter to me what color their skin is, knowing what they did to these young kids. I relish the thought of a true eye-for-an-eye punishment for heinous crimes like this one. God have mercy on their souls, cause I sure as hell would not.

  49. #49
    On October 28th, 2009 at 9:15 pm, sfrvn said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:32 pm, jangar said:
    We are told capital punishment is not a deterrent

    I don’t understand – if a murderer is killed how can that not be a deterrent to him or her killing again?

    Alright, I do understand. Under the present procedure, with prolonged appeals, etc., it isn’t much of a deterrent to other potential murderers. So, if anybody out there does want a deterrent to prospective murders (which everybody should agree is a good thing, right?) then please promptly execute murderers! Why not give them an expedited appeal process – put them, their lawyers, the prosecuter, the appeals court and the victim’s family in a room and don’t let them out until there is a decision. Well, it works for me.

  50. #50
    On October 28th, 2009 at 9:34 pm, Rob said:

    A life for a life, that is justice. Torturing him to death in an effort to inflict as much pain as possible to satisfy our rage, that is mere vengeance. Kill him quickly and cleanly, like civilized men.

    If it was my child… they ALL would hurt and hurt and hurt… I would have a Webber grill and start slicing parts of their body off and let them smell it cook and burn. I would scoop out their eyes with a spoon and let them sizzle on the grill. I would cut off the sex organs thay tortured my child with and crush them under my foot. I would hope they would live long enough to experience it all.

    Why you liberals want to be nice to evil is beyond me.

  51. #51
    On October 28th, 2009 at 9:34 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    GEEZ, and it only took a little over 2 years…

  52. #52
    On October 28th, 2009 at 9:35 pm, Roland said:

    Eye for an eye is socially functional. It was merely useful cultural morality.

    What would be the right thing to happen to evil scum like that is for it to burn in Hell for eternity.

    We all know this in our heart of hearts. Such pure evil deserves nothing less.

    And in this we then see the evil in saying we all deserve to burn in Hell for eternity, and must be ‘saved’ from that deserved fate.

    It draws a profoundly evil deceitful moral equivalence between those evil scum and their victims.

    Any God that would think that way richly deserves our deepest loathing, not our worship.

  53. #53
    On October 28th, 2009 at 10:11 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Golly, you guys are bloodthirsty.

    A life for a life, that is justice. Torturing him to death in an effort to inflict as much pain as possible to satisfy our rage, that is mere vengeance. Kill him quickly and cleanly, like civilized men.

    Sorry, I’m with the bloodthirsty guys. I think a painful, tortorous death would be a greater deterrent for other pieces of $h!t like this one.

  54. #54
    On October 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pm, CrazyFool said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, docflash said:

    I say get a rope.Wait, can I say that?

    Even if we may be called racist – I agree.

    Does this mean that the Justice Department will get all the charges dropped? – after all they are a certain special race…. Just like the black panthers.

  55. #55
    On October 28th, 2009 at 10:30 pm, Lindsay said:

    The death penalty is too humane in this case.

    I cannot imagine the pain these parents live with each day.

  56. #56
    On October 28th, 2009 at 10:43 pm, CW4_KGP said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:55 pm, Grey Fox said:
    Golly, you guys are bloodthirsty.

    A life for a life, that is justice. Torturing him to death in an effort to inflict as much pain as possible to satisfy our rage, that is mere vengeance. Kill him quickly and cleanly, like civilized men.

    Yeah, that’s how people get when they are continuously told that “it was due to a deprived childhood” or some such buffal dung.

    These masses of protoplasm are not human, and do not deserve any mercy or compassion. Do to them exactly what they did to their victims. And blame it on government schools…..

  57. #57
    On October 28th, 2009 at 10:45 pm, bjc said:

    *Thank God justice has been delivered; There are more trials to come, by the way, but the case has had minimal coverage in the Minor League Media, because the colors just aren’t right; There will be no remedy for this epidemic of crime in the black community until the black folks walk away from the liberal plantation and victimhood and instead embrace conservatism; Don’t see that happening as long as they see P-BO as their savior.

  58. #58
    On October 28th, 2009 at 11:47 pm, jamesgreenidge said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:32 pm, jangar said:

    We are told capital punishment is not a deterrent

    Simply because we don’t do it often enough, nor make a public spectacle of it.

    Plus layers and layers of marshmallow legal compassion smothering the deterrent effect. From life experience “in the ‘hood”, I dearly know how so very very true. Children — punks or not — simply don’t have the fear of Christ of being severely punished (like the pre-1960s) — which bites everyone back in crime and sad cases as this. This sounds a joke, but very seriously long ago, my junior high principal mother wished that kids could be given besides (scholastically questionable) museum and events trips, a “tour” of Rikers or Sing-sing to sober them up about heeding the law. I’ve known actual (eventually convicted) homicidal individuals in my life who’d punch a blade between your ribs just for a few bucks, and you’ll never forget the shark-cold look in their eyes, and believe me I wouldn’t light any candles moaning for these choirboys’ worst than worthless lives if the switch was pulled on them and save us taxpayers a few bucks back.

    James Greenidge
    Queens NY

  59. #59
    On October 29th, 2009 at 12:11 am, rightisright said:

    Kingfish,

    You got that one right. Aint no fooling you/

    not sure what your intent was there, care to explain?

  60. #60
    On October 29th, 2009 at 1:02 am, SpeakEasy said:

    I would not torture them and would take no pleasure in the killing but I would kill them just the same. And public hangings most certainly were deterrents to crime, including murder. Read a little history liberals.

  61. #61
    On October 29th, 2009 at 1:02 am, guitarguy said:

    I say we give them all head-to-toe paper cuts and then pour turpentine on them.

    ……..but that’s just me.

  62. #62
    On October 29th, 2009 at 2:03 am, Little Ma said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:55 pm, Grey Fox said: “Golly, you guys are bloodthirsty.”

    The bloodthirsty ones are the inhuman “things” who tortured and murdered those two young people. “Things” have no feelings, no compassion. As civilized men and women, it is our duty to teach the “things” what it means to be human, to be helpless and humiliated, to feel extreme pain, to beg for mercy, and then finally to beg for death.

  63. #63
    On October 29th, 2009 at 3:05 am, les said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:02 pm, Rob said:
    OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, YES WE CAN!

    Rob, can you please explain how President Obama has anything to do with this. By your own admission these horrific murders occurred in January 2007, over a year before he was elected president by an overwhelming majority of Americans and over two years before he was sworn in. Furthermore, the convicted murderers were arrested a year and a half before Obama even secured the Democratic nomination, so they could not have even voted for him. So exactly what are you trying to imply? If you want to place presidential blame on these murders (I’m not sure why), didn’t they happen under Bush’s watch, so wouldn’t he be the one to blame? Sounds like you suffer from a major case of ODS.

  64. #64
    On October 29th, 2009 at 6:28 am, Ronbo said:

    The Christian-Newsom killings are the most shocking racist murders in the early 21st Century that were ignored by the Leftard Media. Can you imagine the headlines if the two young people were black instead of white and the murderers/rapists/torturers white instead of black? The silence of the African-American community to this Hate Crime indicates tacit approval for the killing of two beautiful and innocent young people in love. I say it is the black community in America that has a problem with Hate Crimes. Yesterday the Klan murdered innocent blacks; today the Klan with the tan murders innocent whites.

  65. #65
    On October 29th, 2009 at 6:44 am, Rob said:

    On October 29th, 2009 at 3:05 am, les said:
    On October 28th, 2009 at 8:02 pm, Rob said:
    OBAMA, OBAMA, OBAMA, YES WE CAN!

    Rob, can you please explain how President Obama has anything to do with this.

    Who do you wanna bet they voted for? McCain?
    These are Obama’s peeps.

  66. #66
    On October 29th, 2009 at 7:30 am, les said:

    On October 29th, 2009 at 6:44 am, Rob said:
    Who do you wanna bet they voted for? McCain?
    These are Obama’s peeps.

    Rob, I’d wanna bet that they didn’t vote for either. In addition to your ODS, from the tone of your other posts it would appear you have an anger management problem. You really should see someone, you’d probably have a much happier life.

  67. #67
    On October 29th, 2009 at 7:54 am, ctmom said:

    I googled Lemaricus Davidson to see what he looked like. You would not believe the amount of websites devoted to him. He is a hero! *shudder*

  68. #68
    On October 29th, 2009 at 8:24 am, Chief RZ said:

    Cold blooded disgusting person. We had a similar murder here back in 1984. Same type of people.
    Justice— finally.

  69. #69
    On October 29th, 2009 at 8:37 am, les said:

    On October 29th, 2009 at 7:54 am, ctmom said:
    I googled Lemaricus Davidson to see what he looked like. You would not believe the amount of websites devoted to him. He is a hero! *shudder*

    ctmon, after your post I too googled him and yes he does appear on many sites, mostly either press or court related. I searched quite a few pages and couldn’t find one site that was either “devoted” to him or implied he is a hero. Can you please link to any that you found.

  70. #70
    On October 29th, 2009 at 8:38 am, jangar said:

    ctmom said:
    I googled Lemaricus Davidson to see what he looked like. You would not believe the amount of websites devoted to him. He is a hero! *shudder*

    I made that same mistake last night. Not only a hero, but a sex symbol with the ladies. It’s a sick, dark, underbelly of society. Not just affecting blacks, but also latinos, asians, whites…etc.

    It’s a sick and dangerous world out there, one that does not need to be politicized, but it will be, as there are too many that will turn it into issues of poverty/opportunity/race…to further an agenda.

    Meanwhile, innocent people continue to die.

  71. #71
    On October 29th, 2009 at 8:42 am, jangar said:

    les said:
    Can you please link to any that you found.

    Surely you can do this on your own without adding trash to Ms. Malkin’s site.

    Have a good day.

  72. #72
    On October 29th, 2009 at 9:17 am, Mainah said:

    wishing for a violent and painful death for these people is wrong. I certainly get that people are tired of the same old poor excuses for this kind of disgusting behavior. But, lowering ourselves to that level only makes us like them. We are NOT like them. We do not take pleasure in anyones pain, even the most heinous killers. when we do begin to find pleasure in that kind of thing, we will have lost our way. What we need is a fast, effective way to rid society of this scum, not a bloodthirty hate-filled mob out for revenge. I have experienced murder up close and far too personally, and I well remember the feeling of having some control over the life of the person who killed an innocent little child. It would have been so easy to want revenge. What I wanted was JUSTICE. And peace. Living with a desire to kill another human being was not in me. I turned to God, prayed for direction, and made the decision to allow justice to be done, and to be more humane than he was. It was not easy, by any stretch. But I can live with it. To watch a public execution cheapens all life, and teaches us to have less mercy. When we all stop being merciful, we have lost something precious. My prayers to the families, as they learn to live with this pain.

  73. #73
    On October 29th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Vic said:

    On October 28th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:
    Next stop-The gas chamber for the low form of flesh from Memphis! a pardon from the White House.

    FTFY

  74. #74
    On October 29th, 2009 at 9:32 am, gridlock said:

    If you ever find yourself on a jury like this, make sure you spend a fair amount of time in deliberations. A five minute deliberation before declaring the person guilty would be evidence that the jury did not consider the question carefully and give the murderer cause for appeal.

    I would not criticize this jury for taking eight hours. It means they are doing their job.

  75. #75
    On October 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am, Roland said:

    You are wrong, Mainah. Letting them continue to enjoy drawing air and living life while their victims tortured bodies rot in their graves is what would ‘make us like them.’

    Actions have consequences. The world is not designed in a way that people who do horrible things to other people naturally receive consequences that will deter such people from enjoying doing those horrible things, so we as civilized people have to design those consequences for people within the societies we make.

    So the question is: What is a reasonable consequence for stepping in front of a moving bus?

    Oh, right, that consequence is death or at least brutal injury.

    But we were talking about what the reasonable consequence for brutalizing and raping and sodomizing and castrating and slowly torturing and murdering two innocent, helpless young people would be.

    You know what the reasonable consequence should be, Mainah. So don’t you dare sit there and tell us how we are ‘just like them’ because we think society should have a reasonable consequence for them for what they did.

    YOU are the one who tolerates those monsters’ continued existence. Not us.

  76. #76
    On October 29th, 2009 at 9:46 am, James Felix said:

    The question now becomes: “Which level of Dante’s Inferno will these miscreant abberations reside?”

    They’re headed for the Seventh Circle. Once there they could end up in the outer ring (murderers) submerged in a river of boiling blood with centaurs shooting arrows at them or the innermost ring (sodomites) where they’ll wander in a desert of burning sand while fire rains on them.

    Either fate being richly deserved.

  77. #77
    On October 29th, 2009 at 9:58 am, James Felix said:

    But, lowering ourselves to that level only makes us like them.

    I’m sorry, but you’re simply wrong. There is a world of difference between the person who assaults innocents and the person who fights / punishes the guilty.

    Let me ask you this: America and Germany both invaded France in the 1940′s. Were we both the same?

  78. #78
    On October 29th, 2009 at 9:59 am, Mainah said:

    Roland, maybe if you lived it, you would feel differently. And believe me when I say that I believe in the death penalty. More than believe in it. But it does not have to make us inhuman or inhumane. For any person to read through some of the above thread and NOT cringe at the bloodlust would be hard. we do not need to relish their pain, we just need to rid the world of them. and no, I was not saying we are just like them. I was saying we do not ever want to be.

  79. #79
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:17 am, max said:

    death by mambo

  80. #80
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:22 am, zeroangel said:

    It should be pointed out that we have the 8th Amendment. These animals should be killed, but they should not be tortured.

    He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

    -Friedrich Nietzsche

  81. #81
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:28 am, Roland said:

    Mainah, in your first comment it seemed you were condemning the death penalty. So I was a bit too harsh in my reply.

    However, you still misunderstand the nature of Man. Perhaps you are a woman?

    No amount of hate and anger and violence automatically makes a person ‘like’ those vicious animals. Hate and anger and violence are no more immoral in and of themselves than guns are.

    However, if you do not know how to handle a gun, then you should not. The same thing goes for hate and anger and violence.

    But you really should learn. Carefully.

    What distinguishes those of us who think the scum deserve to be tortured

    (incidentally, I, and I suspect most of the ‘angry mob’ here want the rule of law followed and are not calling for vigilante action …. what we are talking about is what would really be deserved justice …. the rule of law can only do so much)

    from being like the scum is the targets we have chosen for our hate and our anger and our violence.

    That, and only that, is the thing that distinguishes good from evil. Choices. Not feelings.

  82. #82
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:31 am, Roland said:

    Zeroangel:

    Of course they should not be tortured under our rule of law.

    They richly deserve to be tortured, but it is difficult to design a rule of law that deals effectively with extremes without that same law being turned on the wrong people.

    It is more important to follow the rule of law than to give those miscreants what they deserve.

  83. #83
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:33 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    In Williamsburg, Virginia there is one of the greatest travesties of justice imaginable. Here is the story:

    Oswaldo Martinez, an illegal immigrant raped, sodomized and then murdered a 16 year old girl, Brittany Binger. There is no question about his guilt in this matter as the evidence is overwhelming. Now for the horrific part of the story.

    Oswaldo is a deaf mute. As a handicapped person, the laws in Virginia (and I suspect the nation) require that he be made sufficiently competent to understand what is going on during his trial. The state has now spent untold hundreds of thousands of dollars to get him competent – and, of course, he is still judged to be incompetent because of various psychiatric analyses, some of which say he is incompetent and some of which say that he is just gaming the system to avoid a likely death sentence.

    If you think about this situation, Oswaldo was competent enough to get from Ecuador or el Salvador to the Mexican/US border, sneak across that border, get transportation for a couple of thousand miles to Williamsburg, get a job and a place to live in Williamsburg, get plenty of alcohol, and then set-up and rape Brittany.

    This story goes right along with the Nashville story when you realize that Brittany was a young caucasian high school girl and Martinez was an Hispanic illegal. Political correctness permeates this story as it has had no national and minimal local Virginia news coverage for nearly 5 years. At least in the Nashville case, some justice is being done. Here in Williamsburg justice is likely never to be done.

  84. #84
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am, zeroangel said:

    Roland:

    Our rule of law is the way it is for a reason. The kind of blood lust expressed in this thread should not be acted on by the forces of good for precisely the reason spelled out by Nietzsche.

    They deserve to die, I am not prepared to go further than that. Someone that relishes taking out the trash too much gives the trash more attention than it deserves.

    Besides, these animals may have families that may not deserve to have to see their children tortured.

  85. #85
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:47 am, Paul Revere said:

    Allow me 20 seconds alone with him in a room.

  86. #86
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:48 am, Roland said:

    Besides, these animals may have families that may not deserve to have to see their children tortured.

    More likely they do. Someone could/should have stopped the animals years ago.

    However, I do agree the law should not include torture, and I understand why our Founders wrote it that way.

    That does not change what the scum deserves.

  87. #87
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am, Grey Fox said:

    I am rather disturbed by the way some folks here seem to equate “not torturing criminals to death” and “liberalism.”

    I am all for executing the man (Yes, he is a human, not an animal. Humans are desperately wicked, more vicious than any animal on occasion). I am even sympathetic to the idea of a public execution, provided that it is suffiently dramatic to have an impact (public lethal injection doesn’t sound terribly effective as a deterrent. hanging or decapitation, done right, does).

    It is the lingering death idea that bothers me here. Yes, it would probably have a deterrent effect. It also blurs the distinction between justice and vengeance, and I suspect would have a long-term corrosive effect on the idea that we execute to preserve the moral order and not to gratify our own sense of vengeance. As a matter of fact, conflation of vengeance and justice is what led to the movement to abolish the death penalty in the first place.

  88. #88
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am, zeroangel said:

    Roland:

    More likely they do. Someone could/should have stopped the animals years ago.

    That may be true, but I think their child being killed is enough to satisfy their “punishment” for bad parenting.

    That does not change what the scum deserves.

    They deserve to die in my mind. They also probably deserved better parents, but it’s a moot point now. I do not wish to say anything beyond that. Suffice it to say, I am glad some of the commenters in this thread are not policy makers (let’s hope not).

    I feel for the families of the victims. However, I always thought sentences should be more about the “protecting society” part than the “revegne” part. No amount of bloodshed will quell the anguish in the hearts of the families of the victims anyhow.

  89. #89
    On October 29th, 2009 at 10:57 am, zeroangel said:

    Grey Fox:

    Well said.

  90. #90
    On October 29th, 2009 at 11:03 am, Roland said:

    Zero, society and the law are not about giving us justice. They never are. Society cannot be built that way.

    Society’s laws are about protecting society. Don’t confuse the right and wrong involving moral choices with what society does in its laws.

    If you do, you will find yourself very unhappy if you spend any significant amount of time in a courtroom.

  91. #91
    On October 29th, 2009 at 11:08 am, zeroangel said:

    Roland:

    Society’s laws are about protecting society

    That’s what I said.

    However, I always thought sentences should be more about the “protecting society” part than the “revegne” part.

    Don’t confuse the right and wrong involving moral choices with what society does in its laws.

    Huh? You are not saying some laws are immoral and that’s OK are you? What do you mean?

  92. #92
    On October 29th, 2009 at 11:12 am, zeroangel said:

    Roland:

    Hey, if we are going to have another argument about nothing let’s just stop now. I got work to do. Seems we more or less agree anyways.

  93. #93
    On October 29th, 2009 at 11:27 am, Roland said:

    Huh? You are not saying some laws are immoral and that’s OK are you? What do you mean?

    Not exactly. I’m saying many laws are immoral and that’s inevitable. And the inevitability is okay with me, because I really have no choice.

    For instance: I think pot should be legalized, regulated and taxed. I have thought so for quite some time. Have I tried to change the law by being more inclined to vote for the candidates who will change the law?

    Well, no. For I think obvious reasons. Those guys would do more damage than good.

    So you could say I’m OK with pot continuing to be illegal even though I think the law is obviously immoral.

  94. #94
    On October 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am, Roland said:

    On October 29th, 2009 at 11:12 am, zeroangel said:

    Oops. I should have refreshed before I posted that last comment.

    Hey, if we are going to have another argument about nothing let’s just stop now. I got work to do. Seems we more or less agree anyways.

    Yes. Okay.

  95. #95
    On October 29th, 2009 at 11:32 am, Weary Citizen said:

    On October 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am, Roland said:

    Woo hoo!!! Great response. This “makes us like them” is the same crap liberals spew. The more suffering these scum endure the better. It is that thinking that has allowed our society to become ultra tolerant to people who deserve no tolerance or respect. Which in turn spawned freaks like these.

  96. #96
    On October 29th, 2009 at 12:31 pm, Mulligan said:

    My heart goes out to the families of Christian and Newsom. I hope that justice will be served speedily.

  97. #97
    On October 29th, 2009 at 3:56 pm, emjem24 said:

    The only favorable outcome for this animal is a needle in his arm. I’d like to see him hang but that would violate his “civil rights.”

    I’m just tired of these animals ruling urban areas. It seems if you had a bad childhood or were abused it gives you an excuse to torture, maim, and murder two innocent kids. Where is the justice and protection for the victims?

    The world will be a better place when we clean up places like Knoxville’s new taxpayer-subsidized “projects” and the sewers and scum they create.

  98. #98
    On October 29th, 2009 at 4:03 pm, emjem24 said:

    , les said:
    On October 29th, 2009 at 6:44 am, Rob said:
    Who do you wanna bet they voted for? McCain?
    These are Obama’s peeps.

    Rob, I’d wanna bet that they didn’t vote for either. In addition to your ODS, from the tone of your other posts it would appear you have an anger management problem. You really should see someone, you’d probably have a much happier life.

    Isn’t it amusing that the same liberal suffering from BDS has the audacity to lecture another on BDS? I guess we learn from experience, don’t we les?

    On another point, I find it hilarious that liberals have turned the corner on “happiness” and feel fully confident to lecture the rest of us on how to be “happy.” It’s like an Oprah moment gone terribly wrong.

    Les, dear, you and many other liberals, don’t have a clue what constitutes happiness. You’re so busy guilt-tripping the rest of us to continue pulling along the dregs of society and pay for failed experiments from other countries, that you’ve failed to notice that your fear-mongering doesn’t make people happy.

    Liberals are some of the most UNHAPPY people of going. Their little consciences pain them with guilt about how their actions appear to others. It’s really sad. Happiness and liberals are not interchangeable or rather… happiness isn’t exclusive to liberals like you.

  99. #99
    On October 29th, 2009 at 4:23 pm, emjem24 said:

    Mainah said:
    Roland, maybe if you lived it, you would feel differently. And believe me when I say that I believe in the death penalty. More than believe in it. But it does not have to make us inhuman or inhumane. For any person to read through some of the above thread and NOT cringe at the bloodlust would be hard. we do not need to relish their pain, we just need to rid the world of them. and no, I was not saying we are just like them. I was saying we do not ever want to be.

    You have got to be kidding, right? To want these people who did monstrous things to “suffer” and see justice done is not “bloodlust.” Your experience does not represent the experiences of all crime victims and their families. I lost a high school classmate, who I worked side by side with, to a similar fate as the two young kids in Tennessee.

    She was tied up, raped, and strangled. The rest of her family was tied up and shot dead. Their home was set on fire to hide evidence. All for a BURGLERY. The good news is that the black mother and son duo who did this were caught. The son was shot dead by the police in a shoot out and the mother is still in prison.

    Perhaps, if we had more public executions, these pieces of filth would think twice. As for people like me, who have to live with the aftereffects, the fear, the anger, and the grief, it reminds us that there will always be monsters out there ready to hurt us.

    You can pray to God and think you’re better than the rest of us, but at the end of the day it’s up to God to judge us. Not you or anybody else.

    One more thought, I may not be overly religious but I despise people out there who think because they go to church every Sunday (like my liberal brother-in-law and his saintlike family) that that makes them better than the rest of us. I hate this moralizing BS who wants empathy for scum like this monster just to feel that being a good Christian makes you a “better” human being.

    Religion doesn’t protect any of us. I have no problem with religion or those who practice it, only in those who are hypocrites for not following its tenants and lecturing the rest of us on what we’re missing in our own lives.

  100. #100
    On October 29th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    I am a Christian and would be willing to empty out my IRA (as a donation to the charity of the Christian/Newsome families) to flip the switch and execute these people.

    GSP
    :)

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