RINO dirty tricks in Florida
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I guess this is why I now vote for third parties! The Constitution Party seems more in line with me now than the “R” Jersey.
Sad, very sad.
And Crist has been endorsed by Kos!
The RNC is a closed tight-knit country club running the party like it’s a college fraternity.
Crist not very Christian.
Or straight. But I digress.
The good news is Rubio is a strong candidate. Give what you can, he is a real conservative.
Unlike Crist, who is nothing more than Specter with a tan in a bottle look.
Sorry to hijack with thread, but the recession is over. GDP was positive. Obama will take credit, and the MSM will happily give it to him. The positive news will be widespread and economic momentum will build. I’ll say it again, conservatives need to deal with this imminent issue.
I donated to conservative Rubio a few days ago and will now donate again to Rubio. Crist and his concubine b*tch, Senator George LeMieux, have been trying to railroad Rubio with a website containing Hitler garbage (youtube video). The story does a great job of tracing the web server and video to Crist’s GOP Republican establishment friends. Concubine LeMieux was telling other Senators about it before it went public! Wow. That dirty website is still running… and arrogantly taunting RedState too. If you read that site, it shocks me how childish, pathetic and false their accusations appear to the normal reader. Crist? You are a total loser.
Thank God Obama ended the Bush Recession.
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I kid… I kid…
The great thing about Rubio is that he stands on and for conservative principals. This is what the base wants and needs.
Chap…you crack me up. Thanks for the laugh I needed it.
Maybe if we would quit excusing behavior like this by calling it a dirty trick and instead demand serious jail time for the crime it is; it would stop.
You kid, but it’s going to be difficult to argue against that claim. It wouldn’t be so difficult if conservatives hadn’t been blaming Obama for a bad economy. They should have been predicting a recovery all along. Big mistake, Guys!
Is it too late to change his name to Charlie Crixon? By the way, it may be time to change that upside-down elephant to an elephant with a RHINO horn.
The recession IS NOT over, it will double dip. Beleive that trash at your own risk. The worst is yet to come.
I know we are looking for good news after all the bad but this is not it. You have been warned.
It looks like both parties just dont get it when it comes to campaigning. You have the R’s supporting people like Crist and Scozzafava over true Conservatives and then you have the DNC thinking that this add will help them get more campaign donations.
Somehow I don’t see the average American (be it a Democrat, Independent or Republican) thinking that desecrating the flag to make a point is a good thing.
Being a Republican does not make one a Conservative, or being Conservative does not make one a Republican.
If the face off, or issue, is Republican versus Conservative, then those who have the cajones to advance Conservatism over Republicanism should run as a member of the Conservative Party.
Even if you have to break your word and violate a pledge, like Hoffman.
That being said, dirty tricks and slimy tactics done on behalf of any candidate should be frowned upon. And, yes they should be taken to task over it.
Being a Republican does not make one a Conservative, or being Conservative does not make one a Republican.
If the face off, or issue, is Republican versus Conservative, then those who have the cajones to advance Conservatism over Republicanism should run as a member of the Conservative Party.
Even if you have to break your word and violate a pledge, like Hoffman.
That being said, dirty tricks and slimy tactics done on behalf of any candidate should be frowned upon. And, yes they should be taken to task over it.
Newt rusing to Crist’s defense in 7, 6, 5,….
SpeakEasy said:
Watching Beck last night and seeing what a 13% increase in printing the Dollar did for interest rates 20%. After seeing what thi Gov of ours is doing, 120% increase in printing money – what in te world will interest rates be then? i agree, the worst is yet to come.
Naahhh…we only get double dip recessions under Republican presidents.
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I kid… I kid…
Crist is running radio ads stating that Cato Inst. rates him as #1 among governors. But if anything, that’s a credit to riding Jeb’s coat-tails. Rubio is the better fit by far.
Whenever Crist didn’t want to attend an event (like the Family Cafe on Disabilities), he sent Rubio. Then, he appoints a lackey to keep “his” seat warm? Even Ed Gamble, the noted cartoonist, saw right through that.
Conservatives here in Florida just might be more willing to lose the seat to be able to dump Crist once and for all.
Consider the relative effect on the spending power of the money in your 401K when the accompanying inflation hits.
crist (christ in his own mind) should run against that nutjob alan grayson. i hear no one wants to run against him because their reputation will be trashed by this democrat whore who enjoys throwing bombs. crist is a bomb thrower also, so take him on after rubio kicks your butt in the senate primary.
And yet…Michael Steele was declaring his Conservative Creds on Sean Hannity’s radio show yesterday, and trying to explain the NY-23 selection procedure. He didn’t agree with the choice, but…..yeah, there’s always a but!
This stuff going on in Florida shows just how much the GOP Annointed are so similar to the Party of Perpetual Prevarications. There is no difference. Selecting candidates on their perception of electibility, versus the candidate’s conservative credentials is not a winning proposition, as we have seen.
It’s time to root out the left-leaning “moderates” running the GOP, get back to fundimental conservative values and stop all this compromise for compromise sake.
Exactly, does the name John McCain ring a bell?
Puhleaze. GDP went positive on old news: cash for clunkers and new home sales on the corrupt $8000 tax credit. We just had a market sell-off triggered by the realization that auto sales tanked after that program ended and the same effect was expected with the home sales. Take away the taxpayer money re-inflating what is an artificial bubble, and we are in deeper trouble economically than we were before this money-printing binge started. Trust me, the recession is far from over and things are going to get even worse.
SpeakEasy, the recession IS over.
The economy grew last quarter. That means that it DIDN’T recede.
This doesn’t mean that the economy is good. It simply means that it didn’t recede.
Don’t misuse the word “recession.”
Sure, the economy could recede in the future, but that will be a new recession. This recession is over.
Now, we can debate whether or not the news that the recession is over will create building momentum for the economy (I think it will). But the recession is most definitely over.
We can also debate whether or not future economic growth will be constrained by liberal fiscal policies (I think it will), but the economy is very cyclical. Right now, we will enjoy the upswing of the sine wave curve.
Republicans have to start predicting a turnaround NOW. They have to explain that the turnaround is occurring because Cap&Trade and healthcare are being defeated!
Let me restate my last comment. Today’s “news” about positive GDP growth is based on 9/30/09 info. The info that triggered the recent market sell-off already undermined the positive spin of today’s report. It’s like knowing the patient died yesterday but feeling better when you read the lab results from those tests last month that showed the patient recovering.
And the rest of today’s reported data was bad too.
1. GDP isn’t affected by news. It’s affected by economic activity.
2. It doesn’t matter WHY it was positive. What matters is that it IS positive. Therefore, the recession is over.
3. The news is that the recession is over. It doesn’t matter if that news will be misunderstood or not (it most definitely is misunderstood). What matters is that this misunderstood news will build economic momentum.
No. It’s based on economic activity from 7/1/09 until 9/30/09.
No it didn’t. Those that sold or went short yesterday are buying or covering their shorts today.
You’re kinda right about this, but not 100%. The economy was definitely helped by bad government spending, but that’s the only reason for the GDP growth. Also, very few people (including business managers) understand this as good as you do. They will hear that the recession is over and start spending/investing again.
As a Floridian I am going to work hard to get Rubio elected. Crist is worse than a RINO, he is a Mark Steyn DIABLO.
Crist is also tanned orange, for some reason.
Rubio is a true conservative:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yc-qRFpAM4
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/27/video-rubio-on-principles-and-winning/
Corkie: you can’t be serious. You are going to have to define what you mean by “recession”. In my world, it’s not as simple as you make it. In my world, the only sector of the economy that has grown in the past 15 years has been the government. The private sector has not created a single new job since 1997, real unemployment (according to the BLS) is 17% and projected to climb into late next year.
Inflation-adjusted median income is the same as it was in 1991-2.
Capital expenditure (that is what creates jobs) continues to decline as that job creation is also outsourced with the jobs they will replace.
Manufacturing capacity (you know, middle class jobs?) continues to decline and manufacturers are projecting that will continue.
We are heading into an inflationary period with the Fed determined to maintain a steep yield curve. Catastrophe.
Congress is at war with the Treasury and the Fed over breaking up the “too big to fail” banks with Congress insisting on expanding the arrangement that led to this catastrophe in the first place. They just want someone new to blame for the next crisis.
Corkie, when economists play mind games with statistics that are being manipulated by the government, you defeat the purpose of maintaining statistics in the first place. That’s how we end up referring to Marxist-socialists as liberals and later as progressives after those words lose their meaning.
Trust me, the worst is ahead of us. I don’t expect Americans will accept the “new normal” of scarcity being foisted onto us and the significantly lower standard of living that comes with it without a fight. Call it what you want but I call it a recession.
It’s going to make the Carter years seem like the good old days. Fond memories of getting a mortgage for the great rate of 12% through my GI Bill benefits.
Note to self, buy more food, load more ammo.
Agreed.
This positive GDP growth news is likely nothing more than the socialists/statists/collectivists’ peeing on our legs, and telling us that it’s raining.
Corkie: reread you line-by-line response to me. It makes no sense.
Are you freaking kidding me? If an economy isn’t receding then there’s no recession. If the economy is growing, then it’s not receding.
Again, this doesn’t mean that the economy is good.
Another thing to remember when listening to the “experts” on CNBC and Bloomberg is that they are owned by GE (TARP recipient and main proponent behind the one-world-without-borders agenda) and Michael Bloomberg (which needs no further comment). There is no single source reporting the economic information from the point of view of the American citizen. We need to ask the question: “Whose economy is the government-driven taxes-inflated stock market celebrating?” Total disconnect.
Nobody is playing any mind games. Yes, the term “recession” is misunderstood. You’ve proven that today.
Call it recession if you want, but you’re wrong. I correctly call it constrained growth.
If cap & trade and healthcare are defeated, then you will be wrong.
I have no doubt that you don’t understand it. The problem is that I don’t know how to simplify it any further.
1. I was ahead of those experts. I’ve been repeating my comments on here for the past two months.
2. People will believe those news sources. Their belief will drive the economy.
Corkie: there is no growth, constrained or other. In fact, the only growth pressure existing is in the government sector. It matters whether you are talking private sector of government sector. I challenge you to point out a single example of sustainable growth that is not a temporary result of targeted government “stimulus” spending.
For the market to be celebrating an inevitable result is like celebrating when the lights after predicting that will would if I were to flip the switch. That is not why we have markets. Take the government out of the markets and what is left is the truth that they have caused more damage than good.
When it’s 115 degrees out, the government solution is to fix thermometers to always read 78 degrees. It is still 115 degrees but now, because of the government “fix”, thermometers are useless.
AlohaGuy, you’re right. I’m sorry.
Yes, there is GDP growth. Economies are cyclical, and this growth is enough to help fuel an upswing.
Look, if I’m wrong, then I’m wrong. But doesn’t it make sense to start guarding against Obama’s ability to use this to his advantage IF I’m right?
Remember, I’m not saying the economy is good. I’m saying that it’s headed in that direction. The widespread news of the “recession ending” will help fuel that. Like I’ve said, Cap&Trade and healthcare are the big X factors. Either could easily and quickly derail the recovery that I’m expecting.
Corkie: both Wells Fargo and Goldman Sachs have lowered their 2010 economic growth forecasts. That is not what the government-rigged thermometer is telling us but what the supporting date tells us.
Remove the taxpayer money re-inflating the bubble and what you find behind the mask is wreckage that has only gotten worse. And if you watched Geithner’s testimony before the House Financial Services Committee this morning, you witnessed why there is little hope that anything will get fixed.
It’s all about our corrupt Congress and how they refuse to face reality. They are hearing it from Bernanke, Geithner and other sources as well. Our stock market is just a rigged thermometer issuing phony “green shoots” for the “animal spirits” crowd who believe that economic data is not what matters but how people “feel”.
Looks like Corkie got his econ degree from K-Mart.
The recession is hardly over. The 3rd quarter bump came largely from the “Cash for Clunkers” gimmick and the tax credit for homes purchases.
Those programs will have ended (mercifully) by the 4th quarter and the artificially inflated GDP numbers will almost certainly show the recession continues.
Corkie’s argument is that a person who is broke during the 1st and 2nd quarter isn’t broke during the 3rd quarter because he borrowed against his 4th quarter paychecks! That line of argument may convince the “geniuses” in the Obama administration but it won’t convince anyone with an ounce of common sense…
Could you folks move this Corkie stuff elsewhere? I believe the subject is Charlie Crist the RINO for Senate.
According to the numbers you yourself cite, the cash for clunkers program contributed to only .3% of the 3.5% growth. And apparently, 85% of the people who took advantage of the first time buyer credit would have bought anyway, so apparently the impact of that program on the growth in GDP was minimal as well.
Frankly, I suspect Corkie IS Charlie Crist. Notice the fact that both Corkie and Charlie and Crist all begin with “C” and have both vowels and consonants in the words?
Just a simple coincidence? I think NOT!
1. So what? And don’t make me laugh!
2. Forget about sell-side analysts. In October 2007 they predicted big growth for 2008. Um, wrong!
3. What are the BUY SIDE analysts predicting?
4. You actually did make me laugh when you touted Wells Fargo as a source of macroeconomic predictions.
Are you claiming that the stock market is rigged?
Do you understand the wealth effect? Do you understand WHY economies are cyclical?
Good grief! Chappy once again demonstrates the leftists willful suspension of disbelief.
From the article I quoted:
And in “Corkie-nomics” the government has no impact on the stock market or the business cycle or the price of tea in China…
Oh, and just to stay on topic, I think Corkie is Charlie Crist and Charlie Crist is a RINO and he has an ugly dog!
And according to your article, 82% of the car buyers would have bought their vehicle without cash for clunkers. Do the math, big boy.
Are you telling me that someone who received cash by borrowing against their 4th quarter paycheck is broke????
Of course they aren’t broke. They have the cash from the borrowing. That doesn’t mean they’re in good shape economically. It just means they aren’t broke.
That still equates to GDP growth of 1.8%. The recession would have been over even without cash for clunkers.
Of course the government has an impact on the stock market.
WarEagle82, what are you arguing here? You’re all over the place.
I’m in favor of incredibly conservative economic policies. That doesn’t change the fact that the recession is over, and that I think this news will lead to an economic recovery. I think the recovery would be better if we had better economic policies, but that doesn’t mean that a recovery won’t occur. Unless healthcare or Cap&Trade are passed.
Corkie:
You might want to read an informed analysis of the report before just believing the bottom line in the report. It seems that there isn’t much credible backing up the “final number” than hopes and dreams… and a lot of BS!
I’ve done my own analysis.
And we’ll see what gets touted by the MSM. Try to remember that they’re looking for every reason to prop up their man.
BTW, my analysis is quite informed.
Don’t forget it was Charlie Christ that allowed Democrats to vote for McCain in the primaries on election day.
It is because he rescinded the rule that people could change parties that we had McCain as the Republican nominee.
Quite often we don’t even know a recession has begun until months after because the numbers continue to get revised for months, but Obama, a willing MSM, and apparently corkie are willing to declare the recession over because of the initial report.
BTW, I thought they declared it over a while back?
Final thought. That stimulus really worked, eh?
Corkie/Phil: Honestly – do you actually trust the government to report accurately?
Can you name an honest person heading any of the departments? If the person on top isn’t honest, then why would you trust data/analysis given by their organization?
ScottyDog,
We still have closed primaries in FL.
This article on MSNBC’s website, of all places, chastises Republican leaders for their idiotic support of the wrong candidate in NY.
Here’s a key quote:
I see the peanut gallery is up and bothering the adults again.
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And when the RNC and such ask for money: Just say no. For John McCain I make an exception: I sent him a cinco centavo coin. Come to think of it I haven’t heard from the lad in awhile, I wonder why?
I think he was referring to the supposed controversy about the exit polls where some percentage of people self identified as either Dem. or Independent.
This article debunks that misconception.
Also, the exit poll that gave those numbers still had McCain getting 33% of the vote from self identified Republicans, the same as Romney. So even IF one were to eliminate the so-called Dems and Independents, McCain very well could have won anyway.
Hmmm….
My thought always is to first be suspicious when the socialist enemy purports to give advice…whether the MSM or bloggers.
TRUST THE GOVERNMENT NUMBERS! THE RECESSION IS OVER! TRUST THE GOVERNMENT NUMBERS! THE RECESSION IS OVER! TRUST THE GOVERNMENT NUMBERS! THE RECESSION IS OVER! TRUST THE GOVERNMENT NUMBERS! THE RECESSION IS OVER! TRUST THE GOVERNMENT NUMBERS! THE RECESSION IS OVER! TRUST THE GOVERNMENT NUMBERS! THE RECESSION IS OVER! TRUST THE GOVERNMENT NUMBERS! THE RECESSION IS OVER!
No, sorry, I still don’t believe it. It is not like DoL and BLS has NEVER made a mistake or fudged numbers…
Corky, GDP has 3 components, the only one which grew was the government component…
Back in CONUS for a few days (until next Monday), Great to read ya’ll again!
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Keep those home-fires burning, and the candle lit in the window for Our Republic!
The GOP’s push, to dump Conservatives/Constitutionalists is in its “do or die” stage. It must not be going well — making them desperate. It shows in their mistakes, which are piling up.
BTW:
I’m glad that people are finally seeing [S]Newt for what he is: “The Gingrich who would be king” — he’ll sleep with anyone to get there, best interest of the Country Be Damned!
Yes, I am declaring that the recession is over. I will maintain my declaration unless the GDP numbers are revised downward by 3.5% (which isn’t likely). Even 0.1% GDP growth ends the recession.
According to this (see page 7), the increase in government consumption and expenditures accounted for .48% of the 3.5%, or 13.7% of the increase in growth in GDP. Personal consumption expenditures accounted for 67% of the increase.
Where are you getting your figure?
“Corkie-nomics” strikes again. Corkie wants to live in his “groundhog day” econ 101 course. That is his choice.
Therefore, I declare the federal deficit and the national debt is ZERO because America has the ability to print as much money as it wants, any time it wants and could therefore pay off every penny it owes any time it wants.
I also declare that Keith Ueberdork is a weenie! Oh, and just to keep on topic, so is Charlie “Corkie” Crist!
Thank goodness for us then, that the GDP is determined by Commerce, not Labor.
But hey, why should your lack of knowledge about something that basic stop us from believing you over actual, physical data?
What is so difficult about accepting the fact that the economy has grown? Frankly, it had declined so much over the past year that 3.5% growth isn’t much at all. The economy is still bad.
Nobody doubted that the stock market began to appreciate in March 2009. Nobody stated that the appreciation was fake.
Why are people doubting that GDP grew last quarter?
The fact that you won’t accept what I’m saying is frightening. What will you do if we have four additional quarters of reported GDP growth and reported unemployment shrinks to 7.5% prior to the 2010 election? Are you simply going to claim that the government numbers are fake? I’m not sure such a claim is going to win back Congress.
Even if you think I’m wrong, please have a contingency plan in place for next year’s election – just in case I’m right. Let me know if you want help with the plan.
WarEagle82, do you have a point? If the economic principles I’m discussing are so basic, then it should be easy for you to state a coherent point.
Have you provided one actual, FACT in support of your position yet? Just wondering…
This just gives me all sorts of warm fuzzies! I bet Chris Matthew’s leg must be tingling!
Even their “second estimate” in November will be based in incomplete data…
Oh, yeah, Charlie “Corkie” Crist is still a weenie! And Sarah Palin is a MAJOR BABE!!!!
Wow, WE82. Good for you! Bringing up a point which: 1) doesn’t prove or disprove a thing and 2) that corkie already conceded 8 posts ago!
WarEagle82, are you drinking?
Chappy, just like Obama, wouldn’t recognize a fact if it bit him on the nose!
Any reported Q3 growth in GDP will almost certainly be revised down when final, accurate and real numbers are available in about a year.
GDP “growth” will almost certainly be negative in Q4. Nothing has changed in the basic economic picture and no positive change is likely over the rest of the year. Every government policy enacted since the last four months of the Bush administration have been ticking time bombs for the economy.
Chappy, please take note and get back to me in Q1/2010…
My point is that Sarah Palin is a MAJOR BABE! I think that proves something.
And yes, I am drinking a combination of Pepsi and Country Time Lemonade. Why do you ask?
So if nothing has changed wouldn’t that imply a flat GDP? Why would you expect negative growth? No change means GDP growth of zero.
If you can answer that question, then maybe you’ll start to understand my point.
WarEagle82, I’m pretty excited that you think nothing has changed.
Even flat GPD (growth of zero) means that the recession is over. Because the economy has to. . . you know . . . actually recede for there to be a recession.
{Getting back to the thread’s subject, sort of…}
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These dirty tricks show that the “Leadership” is panicked — they are having trouble holding up their end of the Progressive Bargain, the the people who are throwing the levers won’t stand for that! These “Republican Leaders” are going to find themselves cut-off from the Perks-Of-Power! That is their Reason For Living — and they’ll pull-out all stops to keep those perks. After all, they are the Elite, and deserve them!
Look, I’m not completely convinced that the 3rd party people are right and others, such as Levin and his “Take back the Republican Party” are wrong. I’ve lived a long life,(in my 90s now…) much of it before Reagan, and I never thought I’d see him elected president!
But then, I never thought I’d see the Rs load the deck in order to put a Doddering Democrat, under the “R” flag for President.
They knew better: The Republican “Leadership”, who had an example under Reagan how to bring the Country back from the drain and win elections forever after while doing the best for the USA — returning to the Constitutional Principles which made our Country a super power in only 100 yrs could see what was needed and what was best.
The question is: why did they abandon it?
Both Mike & I posted on MM’s blog comments showing how we were being gamed from the start. The “Leadership” rigged it so Ds & Media could pick our candidate. No suprises, that they did: a State-ist [sp?] so they would win even in losing. Both Mike & I talked until we were blue-in-the-face and were accused of the most evil motives — simply because we posted things that actually happened, gave links to the info, the votes, and asked people to look behind aggregate indexes, such as the CU ratings, which if taken out of context and divorced from the candidates historical trail of actions could be supremely misleading.
We asked people to graph the the votes and look up the situation at the time of each vote. They’d see that McCain was always and only a spoiler. He voted conservatively only when his vote didn’t matter: either the bill would pass or would fail regardless.
Then, you had people saying “McCain Said He would/has/wants/did/supports…” items X.
Only one problem: his actions were at odds with his self-descriptions. His voting record showed that the “Lion-ism for Constitutional Principles” applied when the cause was hopeless and his vote/”leadership” would not change the outcome. This pumped up his CU ratings while letting him go his Progressive way. Instead, I asked people to look at his “Landmark” legislation, such as CFR, which has effectively gagged any viewpoint but the Progressive one. The MSM pushes it, and calls it “news”, so they’re free to smear any non-Progressives as much as they like and the only way the truth gets out is via the New Media.
Why spend so much time on McCain? Because, his mask was torn, and most people finally see him for who he is. The problem is, we have many more McCains than Honest Players in the House. By look at McCain and his methods we can find the indicators to ferret out others of his fraternity.
The New Media: the Internet, Talk Radio, and (mostly) Fox News. How long will the Progressives allow it — their tyranny cannot survive the Light and Will of an Informed Citizenry, and they know it!
We have (and to my eternal shame, mostly my generation) allowed the Politicians & Lawyers to create a Royalty, using the Progressive model — a Royalty consisting of Senators and Congressmen — look at their actions and tell me I’m wrong!
Turning this around is going to take all we have! We must be resolute and Clear of Purpose. I hope it can be done. Not for me, but my Grandchildren.
Oh, have to go, the Kids are here!
corkie,
All I’m saying is take the news with a big grain of salt. Yes, one quarter of positive growth does technically mean the recession is over. That doesn’t mean negative growth isn’t in our future and it doesn’t mean we are out of a stagnant economy.
Corkie,
If the economy is suffering from multiple, consecutive quarters of declining GDP, with extremely high unemployment, with huge and unsustainable deficit spending, and NOTHING HAS CHANGED then the downward trend continues and thus, Q4 is almost certainly going to be worse than Q3.
I suspect you are taking ECON 101 right now for about the 3rd time. Note that there is no LAW that defines a recession as “two or more quarters of decline in the GDP.” It is one way of looking at the economy and recessions. It is not the only way and many economists (except perhaps you) would argue it is not the best way…
Oh, and Charlie Crist is a weenie and Sarah Palin is a MAJOR BABE! I really like that picture of her with a shotgun over her shoulder! See: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cZKJ91xLt0s/SPAVrU5QBmI/AAAAAAAAAHk/vwUReHVboVM/s400/palin-shotgun.jpg.
There is also no law that defines “talking out of your ass.” But let’s call a spade a spade and agree that is all you have done so far.
I mean, if you are going to argue multiple definitions of “recession” amongst economists, you’d think at the very least you’d cite to one or two.
That’s right, but there is universal understanding about when a recession has ended.
I’d like to quote my good friend, John Deaux.
So Q4 GDP might only growth 2.8%. That’s worse than 3.5%.
I’m not taking this news at all.
I’ve been predicting positive GDP for the past 3.5 months. I’ve been ahead of this issue and trying to get Michelle ahead of it as well.
You’re right. It doesn’t. But I’m predicting that this GDP news will be pumped and touted far and wide by the liberal MSM. Individual business managers and consumers will be affected by this message. They will release the strangle hold on their pursue strings and being to buy and invest.
Geez, Chappy, I don’t have to cite anything. All you or Corkie have to do is a quick google search which is how you evidently do all your research.
And, Corkie, if there is no single, universally accepted definition of something then there is no single, universally accepted way to conclude that “it” has ended…
You guys are just off your rockers today and you can’t even recognize that I am MOCKING YOU BOTH!!! Get a life!!!
Oh, and Charlie Crist is a weenie.
And Sarah Palin is a MAJOR BABE, you betcha!
Translation: I can’t cite anything.
If you spent half as much time actually looking at the data as you did figuratively flapping your gums, you would at least know the GDP is determined by Commerce and that 18% of 1.7 is about .3.
But let’s be honest: you are so desperate for there NOT to be an uptick in the GDP, for purely political reasons, that you will plug your ears and go “NANANANANANANA I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!!!” Any evidence to the contrary is waived off as conspiracy. In other words, you sound like a truther.
Gosh, Corkie! You are right! The 9.8% to 16% of Americans who are unemployed are gonna unleash those “pursue strings” and start spending their unemployment checks and that $325 a month from each of those “unleashed people” is gonna drive GDP up by 1000% or more in Q4.
I am glad you are driving this and trying to get Michelle ahead of the curve on this good news!
Oh, and BTW, I am still mocking you ust in case you haven’t figured it out yet…
Yes, there is. I’m sorry that it’s counterintuitive, but it’s a fact.
I certainly recognize your attempts but think you appear foolish to third party readers.
Chappy, Chappy, Chappy.
You are too stupid to realize that I am simply mocking you and Corkie. So I’ll have to say it for the nth time.
I AM MOCKING YOU!!!
I don’t take your silly, moronic assertions as being worth a grain of salt. Therefore, I will simply mock you and not bother to cite stuff you should already know yourself.
I AM MOCKING YOU!!!
That doesn’t make you right or us wrong.
Translation: I can’t cite anything.
Corkie-nomics strikes again!
There is no universally accepted definition of “recession” but there is a universally accepted definition of when “recession” ends!
I don’t need to explain WHY I am mocking you when you make such idiotic statements.
Oh, and Charlie Crist is a weenie.
I think people are beginning to see what I mean when I say you are the Elmer Fudd to my Bugs Bunny.
No. The 84% to 91.2% of Americans that ARE employed are going to unleash their pursue strings. That’s all it will take.
And business will proceed forward with their investment and expansion plans now that they know the recession (decline) is over. They will believe that the worst is behind us. And guess what???? If they do this, then the worst IS behind us. This is why economies are cyclical.