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“So, you do not believe you should be held to a higher standard?”
We are all held to the same standard. And we all fail to meet that standard and therefore need to be redeemed by the only human to have ever actually met that standard. There is no higher or lower standard.
Having any standard to which I must “meet” is legalism.
Gal 3:1-5
I did not come to Christ that way and I can not continue with Christ that way.
1You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? 3Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort? 4Have you suffered so much for nothing—if it really was for nothing? 5Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law, or because you believe what you heard?
n October 31st, 2009 at 11:48 am, b-cat said:
On October 31st, 2009 at 11:45 am, cubbiegal said:
Y’all sort of traded religions!
I I’ve been so many faiths-Jewish, Protestant, and soon Catholic-that when ask my religion my response is : “It varies”.
LoL
rocketman,
Constantine I also changed Sabbath to Sunday.
Here we go…
Happy,
If it makes you happier, I are a “Christian” also. I follow Him and belong to Him.
I have my clown outfit ready, and even bought a trick “knife thru the finger” for the kiddies.
Good times. Good times.
Maybe you indicated your decision soap but I have not seen it. My bad if I missed it.
Will it cause you to stumble if I give out candy to kids tonight?
Soap…And just who judges who is in that category?
“I have my clown outfit ready”
My costume is “a guy who worked all day and is putting his feetup to watch a World Series Game” outfit.
I just saw on FOX that the list of people who have visited the WH is now public. And the head of SEIU has visited 22 times!! This just gets creepier and creepier by the day.
jsm,
Yes, the “standard” is Yahshua and it cannot be met on our own. That is the higher “standard” I speak of. Just because we cannot meet His standard, it does not give us license to not even try. For years I had to endure WWJD. When asked, “how do you do this”, I would get all kinds of crazy answers. It was rare when I found someone even trying to live like Jesus and doing what he would do. Alas, if you can – with a straight face – state Jesus would participate in halloween, we can end this debate and I will concede the point that Paul is giving us license as well.
Not hardly. Does it cause you to stumble if I call it pagan because of its history?
One year, we cut a hole in the top of a cardboard box and put it over my daughter’s head. We attached an empty dryer sheet box and some clothes. We cut a circular “door” in the front and drew on some knobs. She went as a dryer. It was really a hit.
Fitting for this holiday time – yes?
I believe Jesus had a sense of humor. I definitely believe that God does! Just look at the antics of children and animals, and Chap. Ha!! God laughs with all of us. I refuse to be so rigid with myself. God made us human and he understands.
Sorry…I mean He understands!
happy,
Not me. The scriptures are clear.
You know, if we are talking about an engineer this all would be moot. If someone said they were an engineer but never took a class, was degreed or never worked a day in his/her life as an engineer – it would be no problem calling them out and being “judgemental”. Take it the the “Christian” level and – boy – people get all in a huff.
“Not hardly.”
Great. I’ll let the wife know we can go ahead then.
Very creative happy.
jsm,
You didn’t answer my question(s). Nice diversion though – throwing down the “you have my permission” lick.
I know they do. I see it every day in the mirror.
“Alas, if you can – with a straight face – state Jesus would participate in halloween”
What I can say with a straight face is: 1. Jesus didn’t get caught up in stuff like this.
2. I will never speculate on would Jesus do this and not do that.
3. And that there is freedom in Christianity to or not to participate in matters like Halloween without being condemned.
The idea that you can decide that Jesus would or would not participate in a thing and then judge other’s behaviors is again quite judgemental soap.
I have no idea if Jesus would participate in Halloween. Neither do you.
But we can know clearly that Paul has left it up to us AND the criteria is if it causes a brother or sister to stumble not fear of “paganism”.
Awkward…
Which is it?
Thanks…and it didn’t cost a cent!!
Its both soap. Nothing awkward about it. Read the Gospels. Jesus not only didn’t get caught up in stuff like this the one’s trying to get him trapped in stuff like this were the Pharisees and the Saducees. His enemies that had Him crucified.
There is no speculation to that obervation. Matthew records several of the attempts by the religious leaders of Jesus’ day to trap him in issues like this.
So are you trying follow the practice of the Pharisees or a Saducees soap?
Make up scenarios to trap a person?
You nor I have any idea what Jesus would do in regards to giving out candy on Halloween.
But please if you have some inspiration prophecy or revelation about that I for one would like to hear it.
Nope, nothing awkward about it.
jsm,
Not trying to trap you on anything. Again, which of the two of us is judgemental? I simply asked you simple questions.
Also, you now imply I do not read or know the scriptures.
Please, continue, who is judgemental?
Look, it is simple. For me, it beats me how “Christians” can participate in a pagan holiday. It is down on my list (like chap) of things that make me wonder. Near the top is how “Christians” can defend abortion.
Will not handing out candy to children dressed as the dead (or in other costumes) cause them to stumble? No. Do I believe the Savior would participate? No. Does that cause you to stumble? If so, it is you and not me who is having a real issue here. I do not believe the Savior would participate in a pagan holiday. You can label me (again with the judgements) as anything you want – I am okay with it.
I agree we just disagree.
Looks like Zelaya is coming back to power:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6896536.ece
Here’s hoping it’s a trick, and they’ll fill the guy full of lead once he steps onto the soil. We REALLY don’t need another enemy right now..
“Not trying to trap you on anything.”
Sorry but asking a person “What do you think Jesus would do…” is most certainly a trap.
You do what your faith allows you to do soap. And if my handing out candy does not cause you to stumble then I will do as my faith allows me to do.
I do not control my behavior based on fear of anything pagan.
Jesus won.
There is nothing about any day in particular that means anything. Whether one participates in that day or does not one’s participation or non-participation means nothing. Christianity is not about days, holidays, rules, nor legalism.
I am free and am so to or to not participate in matters like Halloween. My participation or my withdrawal is based on the impact my doing so, or not doing so, has on others.
If you are not going to stumble, hey, I’m giving out candy.
You are quite judgemental in your presentation about the matter. Wish you the best of luck however I do not expect you to see your own judgementalism.
Can we all agree that, in all likelihood, no one here is going to hell merely because they celebrate Halloween?
“I agree we just disagree.”
I’d say we are in perfect agreement. You are a judgemental legalist and I agree with you that you are.
No disagreement there.
“no one here is going to hell merely because they celebrate Halloween?”
Actually there was a time in my daughter’s young lives that IF we did not, I’m pretty sure they thought I was.
If Hoffman wins in NY-23, I wonder how long it will take before the Republican Party heirarchy tries to contaminate, dominate, or isolate him?
Pay homage, or no play?
ROFL WOW!
…coming from you jsm, I am sure that is a compliment and, I take it as such.
Agreed. And neither can one go to hell for questioning halloween.
The student government at my kids’ high school scheduled Homecoming for Halloween, but costumes aren’t allowed. How stupid is that?
We just had 2 feet of snow so the football game last night was freezing.
So my daughter, a senior who’s favorite holiday is Halloween, is wearing a dress that looks nice enough for Homecoming but is actually a witche’s costume.
It’s made today especially hectic. Sigh.
And I think you can all agree that, whether or not I celebrate Halloween, I am clearly going to Hell.
I’m going to pass on the ‘whether halloween is moral’ conversation. Outside of faith-issues, it’s a good opportunity to teach your kids about socialism. When zombies and vampires knock on your door demanding something of yours for nothing and threaten harm if you don’t hand something to them one night per year, it’s fun- more than that is tyranny.
We’re dressing up our boys to make an appearance at some neighborhood friends’ houses: the two year old as a lion and our 10 week old as a cow. It’s fun that my wife has a bunch of siblings b/c we get good hand-me-down costumes. I guess I’m cheap- I’d never pay the retail price for them.
“And neither can one go to hell for questioning halloween.”
Excpet soap no one said you were. YOU indicated….
Oh never mind.
You are a lawyer – right? Opps, there I go again…
Excellent point bad…
Socialism in action…..
And the “what” they get is sugary unable to support life treats.
Really good insight.
I’m pretty sure chap can one up you on lawyer jokes soap.
Okay. Does that mean you will let the adults play of are you going to critique my every word?
If Christians were celebrating Halloween by praying to a pagan god, making ritualistic sacrifices, etc. that would be a problem. Obviously that is not the case.
Don’t think anyone is going to hell for making Easter baskets and having egg hunts either.
But soap, you aren’t judgemental right?
Surprisingly, and sadly, there is a real dearth of “adoption charity founder” jokes.
Au contraire. Your participation on this blog redeems you. It proves though you are lost in philosophical blindness, you still struggle to find Truth.
Unless you’re just here to poke sticks at the monkeys. In which case it’s the seventh level for you, pal.
Same question to you?
Eh – skip it.
It has been fun. I am headed for out for our parasitical, judgmental, legalistical meeting – otherwise know to us as our Scripture study.
Peace
Yes, but have you seen my picture? Now we are talking joke!
No, that would be zeroangel. Actually he already creates Hell on earth.
Not so much. He just lives in it and can’t stand folks who don’t.
As a Christian, I find the Halloween debate humorous, because I lived in Salem Massachusetts for several years.. Once you go there & see how the fruit-loops who call themselves witches, & the wiccans act on that day in Salem, you’d have no question that it’s a day rooted in evil..
In any case, I don’t bother arguing with people, & I think as long as kids are told that it’s a silly tradition that is not to be taken seriously, I doubt its going to turn any of them against God. I survived years of dressing up as ghouls & what have you.. I’m sure other kids who are raised right will too..
“Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it.” –Proverbs 22:6 (NIV)
What could be a better way to kick off Samhuinn?
Bye Bye DeeDee (flush!)
Speaking of Zeroangel…where is he? Haven’t heard from him in quite a while now. Not that that is a bad thing!
king again displays a depth of knowledge beyond the common man. OK Google, I gotta know.
happyscrapper – Fear not, the little fella has a knack of popping up whenever his name is used in vain. Which is most of the time.
I’m wondering what ever happened to LGM. Must have returned to his home planet. Any scuttlebut about whether he finally got banned? I remember a bunch of folks tried.
There.
FIFY
You’re talking about Sybil – as I say, AKA LGM.
And Sybil had, by my last count, at least four completely, distinctly different posting personalities.
The White House visitors list includes William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Michael Moore, R. Kelly, Malik Shabazz, Nancy Keenan (NARAL President) and Andrew Stern (SEIU President. Note that the SEIU President had the most visits since Inauguration. Disgusting.
Except its not true. Same name, different person.
Just got home with two very large live lobsters for dinner tonight. Its a Halloween tradition here.
Take a large punch bowl and place a gallon size plastic bag of ice in the bottom of the bowl. Cover the ice bag with candy bars and place the two live lobsters on top to scare our little goblins to death.
When trick or treat is over the lobsters are your treat.
Also the President of AFL-CIO numerous times. And, apparently, George Soros has been there 4 times. You know, the guy who is manipulating those puppet strings. He caused our financial meltdown in October and he is the root of this problem right now. Take him out of the picture and we will go a long way in weeding out the criminals. Somehow, he must be brought down! Surely, he has broken all kinds of laws!!
What if you dumped the candy bars on top of the lobsters?
Add some dry ice in the bottom with water for fog effect.
Carbon Dioxide gas from dry ice melting kills lobsters. Dead lobsters yuk. Moving live lobsters scary.
I wondered about that.
Chemistry is not my best event.
Tonight on 10/30 and gobs of kids go get lots of goodies with the trick or treat. The kids can go as a ‘good witch’ or a ‘bad witch’ Most of our Republic will go for the good, but bho and team are the bad! Do you want the candy of the good to save our Republic? The candy is a nice thing to get all to get into what this bho and team has in store, but your teeth will rot out from the ‘sugar’.
L
Pure:
Look, I know why you are still sore. There’s really no need to be.
swede:
Hah! I’m not the one that talks to an imaginary friend.
Sybil:
HI!!!
Anyhow… for those that haven’t seen it, Hannity tells me I’m prone to immorality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r_gWY-rCuE
Also, demon’s pray over candy, don’t eat em!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVtolEvzlBA
On this day, with children getting saturated with candy, remember the immortal words of the recently deceased Soupy Sales, “Be true to your teeth and they won’t be false to you.”
gggggrrrrrr…hissssssssss….
*holds up cross and garlic*
Doing mini-tradition tonight of making Reuben sandwiches and watching “Batman Forever”, the one with Jim Carrey as the Riddler with a Halloween theme.
Savoring the Iowa Hawkeyes at 9-0.
They just seem to find a way every week.
Been living in this house for 2 Halloweens now. Score is still “0″.
Oh well, got some candy for the winter to munch on. We have an 8 pm curfew on this night, so kids should be home…except the older ones, I bet.
I bought salt water taffy and Starbursts so if no one comes it’s something I might eat later.
I had to run out and grab a couple more bags. We ran totally out in the first hour!! My husband and daughter (4 yrs.) are handing out the candy as Col. Sanders and a little chicken. She’s having a grand ole time clucking for the masses.
Oh, and bye bye DeeDee!
I stayed home tonight, as my husband went to the Gopher game. It is 38 degrees and I was not about to sit in the new outdoor stadium and freeze my a$$ off. That is just crazy. Anyway, I just turned off the porch light. I had exactly two visits all evening. The first was a tiny witch about two years old. The other was two tiny witches about 4 years old. That was it. Years past, we used to have dozens of kids running across the lawns, screaming and giggling and having a blast. No more. Door-to-door trick or treating is just about a thing of the past. Sigh. And what do I do with all this candy???
Oh, and Hi Zero! I should have known you would show up on Halloween. Appropriate.
He is evil.
Fallen angel.
I smell sulphur.
Pure, what has Zero gone and done now?
Happy:
Yes, you probably should break out your garlic and magic talismans. You have to be a pretty high-level cleric though for turn-ahead to work on a fiend like me.
Hey Roland:
I pointed out that she said something bigoted and rather than recognize that and apologize for her behavior she got indignant and annoyed.
I painted my fingers yellow and went out as a chainsmoker.
cnredd
Political Wrinkles
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His explanation is not correct. It’s much more personal and involved.
To participate, probably not. Do all to the glory of God.
We got 8 kids – we usually get 30 to 40. I suspect that the low turnout had to do with the high frequency of flashing blue lights in my area resulting from a greater than usual number of teenage idiots cruising around causing trouble.
We had only seven – ten kids show up!
Very unusual indeed. Did let the wife & myself enjoy our 22nd Wedding Aniversary tho. So, it was good in a way.
Michelle you must post the pics in a thread from the modern Marie Antoinette and Louis XV halloween party
The White House splayed in Daily Kos orange
Marie and Louis costumed as Scary Spice and Urkel
It was all a beautiful let them eat cake monent
The dancing bubbled buterflies were just terrific
Let them eat cake
GAWD! First they color the fountains green for St. Pats, now this.
OH NO! Shock of the DAY-CALL FRANK RICH at the Gray Lady!
Sick Elton John postpones US gigs
Elton John is sick? I have always known Elton John is sick. Mr. Media types are just now finding out? Damn but they are slow.
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Remember: if you must feed the trolls feed them to the alligators
The Obama Zombies were out in force at the NYC Halloween Parade!
Ahh, government involved in health care.
Hi Everyone,
Yes, I know it’s not Halloween but I just wanted to let you know how much fun I had last night. In my Colorado Springs neighborhood, had about 30-40 kids come by for some candy. Had about 2-4 kids come by, no costume, for a candy handout. How lame. If you’re not gonna dress up, don’t come to my house.
Anybody else have this problem? Kids, too lazy and entitled to dress up, coming by to trick or treat? How did you handle it? What did you say to the kid(s)?
I also had fun baking a nice Wilton’s Jack O’ Lantern cake. I’m about to take the Course 1 Cake Decorating course and making the cake is practice. It turned out great! I was really happy with it.
Hope everybody had a happy and safe Halloween!
Received this from my brother-in-law: I have not been able to verify.
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WASHINGTON IS IGNORING “WE, THE PEOPLE!” THEY ARE REFUSING DELIVERY OF PETITIONS…this is crapola…
Michelle Bachman (Rep) is calling for citizens to make a house call on Congress on Nov 4th at the steps of Congress…maybe she can take the petitions and pink slips on into the building and hand them out…
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPXTZ0ZVNUE&feature=player_embedded
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