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	<title>Comments on: Abortion remains the Obamacare sticking point&#8230;for House Dems</title>
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		<title>By: Democrats purposely violate 72-hour rule, use &#8220;loophole&#8221; to slip in abortion coverage &#124; Political Integrity Now</title>
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		<dc:creator>Democrats purposely violate 72-hour rule, use &#8220;loophole&#8221; to slip in abortion coverage &#124; Political Integrity Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] called your attention last night to the Democrats’ struggle over abortion funding language in the House health care [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mattel: Then there is the unveiling [pun intended] of Burka Barbie. Just what every little girl living under Sharia Law wants&#8230; &#171; VotingFemale Speaks!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattel: Then there is the unveiling [pun intended] of Burka Barbie. Just what every little girl living under Sharia Law wants&#8230; &#171; VotingFemale Speaks!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Demcare bribe list and March on Washington: Stop the government health care takeover and Abortion remains the Obamacare sticking point…for House Dems Gateway Pundit: Hundreds Protest Obamacare at St. Louis Million Med March and Harry Reid Plays [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Demcare bribe list and March on Washington: Stop the government health care takeover and Abortion remains the Obamacare sticking point…for House Dems Gateway Pundit: Hundreds Protest Obamacare at St. Louis Million Med March and Harry Reid Plays [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Flyoverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flyoverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Abortion foes are upset that the measure would require plans that offer elective abortion services to set aside at least a dollar a month from each of their patient’s private premium dollars in an account strictly apart from any federal funds.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Too bad no one thought of this earlier.  The Nazis could have taxed the Jews to build Buchenwald.  

I guess this is what&#039;s known as a &quot;Progressive Idea.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Abortion foes are upset that the measure would require plans that offer elective abortion services to set aside at least a dollar a month from each of their patient’s private premium dollars in an account strictly apart from any federal funds.</p></blockquote>
<p>Too bad no one thought of this earlier.  The Nazis could have taxed the Jews to build Buchenwald.  </p>
<p>I guess this is what&#8217;s known as a &#8220;Progressive Idea.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Truesoldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truesoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Abortion foes are upset that the measure would require plans that offer elective abortion services to set aside at least a dollar a month from each of their patient’s private premium dollars in an account strictly apart from any federal funds.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obviously they are setting the funds aside, so they can claim they are not federal $&#039;s and can be used for abortion.  Here is the big question, if you have this account and never use it where does the money go to?  My guess is that it will go to pay for abortions for those who dont have enough in their account...Just one more way to redistribute the wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Abortion foes are upset that the measure would require plans that offer elective abortion services to set aside at least a dollar a month from each of their patient’s private premium dollars in an account strictly apart from any federal funds.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously they are setting the funds aside, so they can claim they are not federal $&#8217;s and can be used for abortion.  Here is the big question, if you have this account and never use it where does the money go to?  My guess is that it will go to pay for abortions for those who dont have enough in their account&#8230;Just one more way to redistribute the wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: rooster</title>
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		<dc:creator>rooster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;CNSNews.com
Since April, 114 Children Have Died from H1N1 -- but 700,000 Have Died from Abortion 
Tuesday, November 03, 2009&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So the marxist in chief has declared the swine flu a national emergency?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>CNSNews.com<br />
Since April, 114 Children Have Died from H1N1 &#8212; but 700,000 Have Died from Abortion<br />
Tuesday, November 03, 2009</p></blockquote>
<p>So the marxist in chief has declared the swine flu a national emergency?</p>
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		<title>By: BadIdeaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BadIdeaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abortions may be performed by licensed doctors, but I don&#039;t consider them &quot;health care&quot;. Pregnancy may cause illness symptoms, but it&#039;s not an illness.

It makes me sad to think that so many in Congress would cast their lot with those who view the unborn like some sort of a tumor.

I guess death panels aside, is there anything in the bill prohibiting assisted suicide? Since this administration isevidently dedicated to honoring Peter Singer &#039;ethics&#039; at every juncture, we may want to discuss this too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abortions may be performed by licensed doctors, but I don&#8217;t consider them &#8220;health care&#8221;. Pregnancy may cause illness symptoms, but it&#8217;s not an illness.</p>
<p>It makes me sad to think that so many in Congress would cast their lot with those who view the unborn like some sort of a tumor.</p>
<p>I guess death panels aside, is there anything in the bill prohibiting assisted suicide? Since this administration isevidently dedicated to honoring Peter Singer &#8216;ethics&#8217; at every juncture, we may want to discuss this too.</p>
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		<title>By: Reg.conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reg.conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.R. 3962, the Pelosi Health Care Bill: 
Page 94—Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private individual health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government; 
Page 211—Section 321 establishes a new government-run health plan that, according to non-partisan actuaries, would cause as many as 114 million Americans to lose their existing coverage; 
Page 225—Section 330 permits—but does not require—Members of Congress to enroll in government-run health care; 
Page 255—Section 345 does not include a requirement to verify applicants’ identity, thus encouraging identity fraud for undocumented immigrants and others wishing to receive taxpayer-subsidized health benefits; 
Page 297—Section 501 imposes a 2.5 percent tax on all individuals who do not purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health insurance—the tax would apply on individuals with incomes under $250,000, thus breaking a central promise of then-Senator Obama’s presidential campaign; 
Page 313—Section 512 imposes an 8 percent “tax on jobs” for firms that cannot afford to purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health coverage; according to an analysis by Harvard Professor Kate Baicker, such a tax would place millions “at substantial risk of unemployment”— with minority workers losing their jobs at twice the rate of their white counterparts; 
Page 336—Section 551 imposes additional job-killing taxes, in the form of a half-trillion dollar “surcharge,” more than half of which will hit small businesses; according to a model developed by President Obama’s senior economic advisor, such taxes could cost up to 5.5 million jobs; 
Page 520—Section 1161 cuts more than $150 billion from Medicare Advantage plans, potentially jeopardizing millions of seniors’ existing coverage; 
Page 733—Section 1401 establishes a new Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research; the bill includes no provisions preventing the government-run health plan from using such research to deny access to life-saving treatments on cost grounds, similar to Britain’s National Health Service, which denies patient treatments costing more than £35,000; 
Page 1174— Section 1802(b) includes provisions entitled “TAXES ON CERTAIN INSURANCE POLICIES” to fund comparative effectiveness research, breaking Speaker Pelosi’s promise that “We will not be taxing [health] benefits in any bill that passes the House,” and the President’s promise not to raise taxes on families with incomes under $250,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.R. 3962, the Pelosi Health Care Bill:<br />
Page 94—Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private individual health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government;<br />
Page 211—Section 321 establishes a new government-run health plan that, according to non-partisan actuaries, would cause as many as 114 million Americans to lose their existing coverage;<br />
Page 225—Section 330 permits—but does not require—Members of Congress to enroll in government-run health care;<br />
Page 255—Section 345 does not include a requirement to verify applicants’ identity, thus encouraging identity fraud for undocumented immigrants and others wishing to receive taxpayer-subsidized health benefits;<br />
Page 297—Section 501 imposes a 2.5 percent tax on all individuals who do not purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health insurance—the tax would apply on individuals with incomes under $250,000, thus breaking a central promise of then-Senator Obama’s presidential campaign;<br />
Page 313—Section 512 imposes an 8 percent “tax on jobs” for firms that cannot afford to purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health coverage; according to an analysis by Harvard Professor Kate Baicker, such a tax would place millions “at substantial risk of unemployment”— with minority workers losing their jobs at twice the rate of their white counterparts;<br />
Page 336—Section 551 imposes additional job-killing taxes, in the form of a half-trillion dollar “surcharge,” more than half of which will hit small businesses; according to a model developed by President Obama’s senior economic advisor, such taxes could cost up to 5.5 million jobs;<br />
Page 520—Section 1161 cuts more than $150 billion from Medicare Advantage plans, potentially jeopardizing millions of seniors’ existing coverage;<br />
Page 733—Section 1401 establishes a new Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research; the bill includes no provisions preventing the government-run health plan from using such research to deny access to life-saving treatments on cost grounds, similar to Britain’s National Health Service, which denies patient treatments costing more than £35,000;<br />
Page 1174— Section 1802(b) includes provisions entitled “TAXES ON CERTAIN INSURANCE POLICIES” to fund comparative effectiveness research, breaking Speaker Pelosi’s promise that “We will not be taxing [health] benefits in any bill that passes the House,” and the President’s promise not to raise taxes on families with incomes under $250,000.</p>
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		<title>By: simcoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>simcoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Dem, what would you take from your president, that is not his to give away to begin with, for your affirmative vote? What would you take in lieu of an aborted ripped to shreds or chemically burned to death in the womb baby? Or your affirmative vote to have its brain suctioned out through its nose baby? One who never hurt another living soul, depending on you for every need except it breath to sustain its innocent little life baby? 

What is your price, Dem?? Fill in the blank check.

Would you fill it in with enough money to hire five of your family members for your office?

Would you take enough for a new limo? Enough for a new winter condo on the slopes or summer home at the beach or on the lakeshore?

Would you take that cabinet post?

Would you take an eternity in &lt;strong&gt;HELL&lt;/strong&gt;? 

But you’re still alive. Therefore, it’s not to late to repent and seek forgiveness from your Creator God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Dem, what would you take from your president, that is not his to give away to begin with, for your affirmative vote? What would you take in lieu of an aborted ripped to shreds or chemically burned to death in the womb baby? Or your affirmative vote to have its brain suctioned out through its nose baby? One who never hurt another living soul, depending on you for every need except it breath to sustain its innocent little life baby? </p>
<p>What is your price, Dem?? Fill in the blank check.</p>
<p>Would you fill it in with enough money to hire five of your family members for your office?</p>
<p>Would you take enough for a new limo? Enough for a new winter condo on the slopes or summer home at the beach or on the lakeshore?</p>
<p>Would you take that cabinet post?</p>
<p>Would you take an eternity in <strong>HELL</strong>? </p>
<p>But you’re still alive. Therefore, it’s not to late to repent and seek forgiveness from your Creator God.</p>
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		<title>By: emjem24</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/03/abortion-remains-the-obamacare-sticking-point-for-house-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-835269</link>
		<dc:creator>emjem24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do the Dems need abortion to be in this bill? So the bill isn&#039;t intrusive enough without this aspect? Why is it even part of this legislation?

Yes, I know... too obvious questions to ask. 

Here&#039;s a cost effective measure: using birth control to prevent &quot;unwanted&quot; preganancies that Dems continue to say is the reason abortion is needed. How much anguish, lives, and unnecessary expenditure would that save?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do the Dems need abortion to be in this bill? So the bill isn&#8217;t intrusive enough without this aspect? Why is it even part of this legislation?</p>
<p>Yes, I know&#8230; too obvious questions to ask. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a cost effective measure: using birth control to prevent &#8220;unwanted&#8221; preganancies that Dems continue to say is the reason abortion is needed. How much anguish, lives, and unnecessary expenditure would that save?</p>
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		<title>By: Republicanvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republicanvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Abortion foes are upset that the measure would &lt;strong&gt;require plans that offer elective abortion services to set aside at least a dollar a month from each of their patient’s private premium dollars&lt;/strong&gt; in an account strictly apart from any federal funds.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m sure each of the plans that allow this would certainly highlight the fact that money from the premiums would be set aside for abortions.

/sarc

If leftists are so rabid about abortion, why not create a separate fund where they can donate to fund them themselves? Why force everyone to pay for them, other than greedy Planned &quot;Parent&quot;hood, and the leftists collecting campaign donations from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Abortion foes are upset that the measure would <strong>require plans that offer elective abortion services to set aside at least a dollar a month from each of their patient’s private premium dollars</strong> in an account strictly apart from any federal funds.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sure each of the plans that allow this would certainly highlight the fact that money from the premiums would be set aside for abortions.</p>
<p>/sarc</p>
<p>If leftists are so rabid about abortion, why not create a separate fund where they can donate to fund them themselves? Why force everyone to pay for them, other than greedy Planned &#8220;Parent&#8221;hood, and the leftists collecting campaign donations from them.</p>
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		<title>By: b-cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/03/abortion-remains-the-obamacare-sticking-point-for-house-dems/comment-page-1/#comment-835183</link>
		<dc:creator>b-cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever Fox News says about this is not news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever Fox News says about this is not news.</p>
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		<title>By: California Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>California Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the Republicans are the ones that are blocking Obama&#039;s reforms.  It&#039;s the Republicans that are in the midst of a civil war over party ideology.  It&#039;s the Republicans fault the Democrats can&#039;t get anything done with control of the House, Senate, and White House.  We are not allowed to say that the Democrats are the party in disarray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the Republicans are the ones that are blocking Obama&#8217;s reforms.  It&#8217;s the Republicans that are in the midst of a civil war over party ideology.  It&#8217;s the Republicans fault the Democrats can&#8217;t get anything done with control of the House, Senate, and White House.  We are not allowed to say that the Democrats are the party in disarray.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of us are too busy reading too deeply into the election results in NJ,VA, &amp; the close race in NY, &amp; fooling ourselves into thinking Obama&#039;s influence has diminished, &amp; that this is a referendum on Obama &amp; the Democratic party..

:)       /sarc off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of us are too busy reading too deeply into the election results in NJ,VA, &amp; the close race in NY, &amp; fooling ourselves into thinking Obama&#8217;s influence has diminished, &amp; that this is a referendum on Obama &amp; the Democratic party..</p>
<p> <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />        /sarc off</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? No one has an opinion on an abortion piece? Obviously the attention of MM readers is glued on election results.

Stupak is correct in being concerned because he tried to add a pro-life amendement and was told in no uncertain terms by Pelosi, &quot;no way.&quot;

Typical doublespeak on the abortion issue from Democrats. I&#039;m surprised they tolerate Stupak in their midst.

Michael Swartz
www.monoblogue.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? No one has an opinion on an abortion piece? Obviously the attention of MM readers is glued on election results.</p>
<p>Stupak is correct in being concerned because he tried to add a pro-life amendement and was told in no uncertain terms by Pelosi, &#8220;no way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Typical doublespeak on the abortion issue from Democrats. I&#8217;m surprised they tolerate Stupak in their midst.</p>
<p>Michael Swartz<br />
<a href="http://www.monoblogue.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.monoblogue.us</a></p>
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