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1. #1
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 5:15 am, rocketman said:

   ***
   Sounds like time for capital punishment to take care of this “father”. Does Arizona still use the tried and true Old West “necktie party”?
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   The Indians of 200 years ago had a SUTTEE CUSTOM where the widow was forced to die on her husband’s funeral pyre. The British general who had taken over this part of India refused to allow this barbaric practice to continue. The local Indians explained to him that local customs had to be followed–the widow must die.
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   The general built a gallows next to the funeral pyre. He told the locals, “You guys follow your custom. Then I will follow my custom and hang you all on this gallows!” Needless to say–the local custom wasn’t so important after all.
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   Use the HANG ‘EM HIGH approach–or whatever the more humane Arizona law prescribes–for HONOR KILLINGS. A life for a life.
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   John Bibb
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2. #2
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 5:31 am, JHSII said:

   No stampede to get in front of the cameras and condemn the bloody ravages of sharia law.

   It’ll be ignored. At best they’ll say it was an “isolated incident” and then go back to ignoring it.

   “Nothing to see here, move along, move along…”

3. #3
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 6:20 am, jimyai said:

   CAIR will say that all cultures have domestic violence. There is no honor killing in islam

4. #4
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 am, Stoutcat said:

   It will be interesting to see whether this makes the news and the morning shows–will they be discussing it on Good Morning America, do you suppose?

   /crickets

5. #5
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 am, regularguy said:

   Denying and sugar-coating the evils of Islam is no less evil.

6. #6
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 6:46 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   Sounds like time for capital punishment to take care of this “father”. Does Arizona still use the tried and true Old West “necktie party”?

   Sadly no-and we do not use lethal injection as much as we should-we are under the Ninth Court of Appeals and Touchy Feely-it is always a long fight.But some of the Flying Imans (AKA sheiks on a plane) are from here. As they are super sensitive to human rights I am anticipating they will rush a statement of concern right after their next Death to America prayer meeting-any minute now.

   Noor Faleh Almaleki did in fact consider herself an American, had American friends and Iraqi born boy friend. So her father, Faleh Hassan Almaleki, laid in wait to run her down-the murdering dog. The Peoria police have filed Premeditated Murder charges against the punk-if the County Attorney goes for Capital Murder-death penalty- is to be seen.

   Speaking before a Maricopa County judge over the weekend, state prosecutor Stephanie Low said Almaleki has admitted purposefully running down his daughter.

   “By his own admission, this was an intentional act and the reason was that his daughter had brought shame on him and his family,” Low said. “This was an attempt at an honor killing.”

   Almaleki did not address the accusations and spoke only to ask the judge about getting a court-appointed attorney.

   Low said additional family members are suspected of assisting Almaleki in his escape.

   Yes, we need to return to the Neck Tie Party (after a fair trial of course) for showing “concern and compassion” for the perpetrators insults the victims.

7. #7
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 6:56 am, zorro said:

   Eternal rest grant unto her O Lord,
   And let perpetual Light shine upon her.
   May her soul
   And the souls of all the faithful departed
   Through the Mercy of God
   Rest in peace.
   Amen.

8. #8
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 am, jjmurphy said:

   This has nothing to do with the wonderful religion of peace known as islam. Just an upset dad. Move along. /sarc

   Pamela Geller over at Atlas Shrugs has done a fantastic job listing all the “honor” killings done in the name of islam. A LOT right here in the USA, though you never hear about them.

   I have other thoughts on islam and these “honor” killings, but I don’t want to be banned for bad language.

9. #9
   On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:10 am, zombywolf said:

   it doesn’t concern us–nothing to see here or so most people here want you to believe it. I even find myself not speaking out like I used to for fear of offending–someone who reads my blog. And I’ve been climbing up on my soap box since I was 14 about this or that. Didn’t someone say somewhere that until the Muslim women themselves stood up at said enough is enough it would still go on no matter how much we westerners protested but then again we don’t protest near enough.

10. #10
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:12 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Nothing to see here…

    Because…

    There is a Pastor preaching hate somewhere me thinks…

    

11. #11
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:14 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Chap,

    Did you hear this one?

    What is the difference between a scum sucking bottom dweller and a “orphan adoption founder”?

    One is a lwayer.

    See there is no shortage of “orphan adoption founder” jokes!

12. #12
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:21 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Didn’t someone say somewhere that until the Muslim women themselves stood up

    True enough in MohammedanLand, maybe Europe-soon to be MohammedanLand-but in THIS country we live by our rules. Now if these mohammedans need to beat on somebody to feel manly we can always supply them with plenty of Diversity Divas, Tolerance Trolls and if that is not enough drop them off in the gang areas; we shall see how tough they are. But if they beat their women in this country they need to go to jail, if they do murder we need to HANG them.

    We could stop importing mohammedans or is that too easy?

13. #13
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:38 am, englishqueen01 said:

    How awful. May she rest in piece.

    But remember that Christians are always far, far worse. Funny thing is that when I met and married someone who wasn’t pre-arranged by my parents, and converted from the religion of my father, I had no fear of him – a lifelong, devout Lutheran – killing me. If I walk away from my parish and my marriage today people would be sad and disappointed, but no one would threaten or take my life.

14. #14
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:48 am, englishqueen01 said:

    By the way, go to Atlas Shrugged and click on the tag “Honor Killings: Islam Misogyny“. Read some of the posts there – dozens of honor killings, in American and elsewhere.

    Wonder if any of this will aid Rifqa Bary?

15. #15
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:50 am, BrianNY said:

    Does anyone know where this guy, Faleh Hassan Almaleki, ranks on Keith Olbermann’s “Worst Person in the World” list?

16. #16
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 7:56 am, les said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 am, Stoutcat said:
    It will be interesting to see whether this makes the news and the morning shows–will they be discussing it on Good Morning America, do you suppose?
    /crickets

    The NY Times, Huffington Post and MSNBC all reported this story yesterday. Not sure about GMA, I don’t watch it.

17. #17
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 am, PhredE said:

    Contrary to the view of the die-hard multiculturalist, not all cultures are equal, nor, do they all exhibit desirable traits. We have our own culture and it is one that works for us. I, for one, will not offer any apologies for those that do not like our culture. If you don’t like it here, please go somewhere else.

18. #18
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On-my-soap-box said:
    There is a Pastor preaching hate somewhere me thinks…

    

    Yes I saw it this Sunday-all judgmental about murder, adultry and such. You know how it goes–let people commit murder or adultery and next thing you know they end up dancing.

19. #19
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 8:21 am, Sergeant Tim said:

    If there was honor in killing Noor Faleh Almaleki, why did the rat scurry off and try to hide? There was no honor in her murder yet expect the terrorist front group CAIR to assist him in his defense.

20. #20
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 8:28 am, jinxmchue said:

    And, of course, the apologists will say this will never happen to Rifqa Bary (who would never be going through what she is if she had been a convert to Islam from Christianity, both in regards to her safety and in regards to the state trying to force her to return to her family).

21. #21
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 8:52 am, englishqueen01 said:

    And, of course, the apologists will say this will never happen to Rifqa Bary (who would never be going through what she is if she had been a convert to Islam from Christianity, both in regards to her safety and in regards to the state trying to force her to return to her family).

    Did you know that last week, Ohio courts, with the approval of her parents, have limited her phone and Internet access?

    I prefer to think of the glaring hypocrisy this way:

    If Rifqa Bary was 17 and wanted to obtain an abortion against her parents’ wishes, she would be given every imaginable recourse through the state to assist her in murdering her unborn child. Her parents’ opinions and feelings wouldn’t matter at all. But because she’s merely a Christian convert, the full weight of the state is coming down to make sure she doesn’t get any silly ideas in her head about Jesus. At 17, she’s fully mature enough to decide to kill another human being, but not mature enough to decide to change religions.

22. #22
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 am, jangar said:

    Sergeant Tim said:
    If there was honor in killing Noor Faleh Almaleki, why did the rat scurry off and try to hide?

    And why did he not jump out and get in front of the SUV with his daughter so that he may collect those 72 virgins? Is there only selective honor in suicide/homicide acts?

    So many questions, nary a logical answer. A cult of death.

23. #23
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 8:57 am, jangar said:

    Did you know that last week, Ohio courts, with the approval of her parents, have limited her phone and Internet access?

    Cutting off her last means of contact with other Christians for support.

24. #24
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 am, Dimsdale said:

    The so called father needs to have a trial, which, I have little doubt would result in a conviction, then be executed with a mouthful of the cheapest, foulest pork sausage and his lips sewn shut.

    Just to take care of that nagging afterlife “reward” and all…

25. #25
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 am, AmericaFirst said:

    Time to start offering these women, held hostage under Islamic Sharia Law, free handguns, ammo and training. We need a new Underground Railroad for victims of Islamic slavery. CAIR supports domestic violence.

26. #26
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Cutting off her last means of contact with other Christians for support.

    Exactly. But these are the same people who’d throw a fit because conservative Christians and Jews often limit their childrens’ access to media.

27. #27
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Cutting off her last means of contact with other Christians for support.

    Keep them behind the veil, beat them from time to time, kill them when ever: Have the NOW cows been notified? Sally -Sarah Palin is not a REAL women-Quinn? Barney Frank? MomaBama? No, not to a Christian’s aid but that is to be expected. But Jesus did tell us of this so we pray for that young women. I guess I am to pray for the mohammedans too–maybe I’ll Fake it Till I Make it?

28. #28
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 am, graysonret said:

    I have a feeling that this guy won’t get as much punishment as a Christian would receive in the same circumstances; nor, will the MSM jump on it, with daily/hourly updates. We must not upset the Islamic religion, just like Europe. Sad.

29. #29
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 am, shimauma2 said:

    It will be interesting to see whether this makes the news and the morning shows–will they be discussing it on Good Morning America, do you suppose

    The financially troubled AZ repugnant reported that her “lifestyle” landed her in the hospital, and now she has passed away, rather than report that she was violently murdered by her father who did it as an honor killing based on his religious beliefs.
    No, you’re not going to get the whole story out of the media.

30. #30
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 am, jangar said:

    graysonret said:
    I have a feeling that this guy won’t get as much punishment as a Christian…

    …would get for publicly proclaiming that marriage is the union between one man and one woman.

31. #31
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Assimilate or leave. Problem solved.

32. #32
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 am, Weary Citizen said:

    Ain’t diversity and multicultralism great!!!!! What would our dull boring western values and culture have been like without the cultural “enrichment” of muslim honor killings? Liberals will get us all killed.

33. #33
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 am, tiredofit08 said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 5:31 am, JHSII said:

    No stampede to get in front of the cameras and condemn the bloody ravages of sharia law.

    It’ll be ignored. At best they’ll say it was an “isolated incident” and then go back to ignoring it.

    “Nothing to see here, move along, move along…”

    isolated incidents just like the thousands of Americans who are killed every year by illegal aliens driving drunk and other gang related activity…

34. #34
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    AmericaFirst said:

    Time to start offering these women, held hostage under Islamic Sharia Law, free handguns, ammo and training.

    WE should offer them at least as much support as some organizations do for illegal aliens. A local Woman’s Shelter here had to refuse State funding because the staff does indeed carry. The State’s position is Call 9-1-1, We Are Just Minutes Away-body bags at the ready.

    Most of the women in my family have long carried. IF there were wife beaters among us I image they accidentally shot themselves or fell asleep smoking or such. But if AmericaFirst you find such a group let us know-I’d help. Personally I would like to see ALL women carry-keep the thugs guessing.

    As somebody should have said: Nothing says NO like the report of a firearm.

35. #35
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 am, graysonret said:

    …would get for publicly proclaiming that marriage is the union between one man and one woman.

    …or coming out against killing babies (sorry, not PC..err…abortions). Maybe, as a defense, this guy can say he just “aborted” her late. I’m sure the MSM would hail him as a hero, in that case.

36. #36
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 am, ThackerAgency said:

    This stuff makes me so mad. The women are beautiful and don’t deserve to be treated this way. When I’m out and I meet a beautiful woman that I get along with and I find out she’s Muslim. . . that’s almost like the breakup immediately because I don’t want her to be in danger just for hanging out with me.

    I met one Jordanian who lives in Fl now. We got along well, but it can never work because I wouldn’t doubt her family would kill her if she didn’t date a Muslim. She’s smokin hot and very nice, but I would be devastated if her family killed her for talking with me.

37. #37
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 am, jangar said:

    Maybe, as a defense, this guy can say he just “aborted” her late. I’m sure the MSM would hail him as a hero, in that case.

    One less on the list for the $1.2 trillion healthcare bill. Just look at the money saved!

38. #38
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:51 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Didn’t someone say somewhere that until the Muslim women themselves stood up at said enough is enough it would still go on no matter how much we westerners protested

    I even find myself not speaking out like I used to for fear of offending–someone who reads my blog.

    zombywolf – I think you used a perfect example thru your own experience of why Muslim women do not say enough is enough. ‘Fear’ being the operative word.

    I like the idea of underground railroad and organizations dedicated to helping these women. We’d need a commitment from law enforcement/courts to quickly remove the threatening person. Maybe some of Obama’s stimulus money could go to teaching these people that honor killings don’t go over so well here.

39. #39
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 am, jangar said:

    Maybe some of Obama’s stimulus money could go to teaching these people that honor killings don’t go over so well here.

    Nah, he’ll keep his mouth shut about it until he can come up with a reason to use it for his personal political gain. The killings will be come more frequent. Clinton let it go for 8 years, so will Obama.

40. #40
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 10:28 am, spaceycakes said:

    What does the Society of Women (SOW) think of this??

41. #41
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 am, jangar said:

    What does the Society of Women (SOW) think of this??

    Not half as much as the Real American Gals (RAG’s) think of it

42. #42
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am, Dave the Libertarian said:

    I noticed, in the AP version of the story (I think), the original story mentioned that he was angry at her abandonment of MUSLIM values, but the later story said it was her abandonment of IRAQI values. I guess some editor scrubbed the later version of the story, and said “Oh, we can’t blame this on MUSLIM values! They’ll come for us, hang us in effigy!”

43. #43
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 am, pueblo1032 said:

    I live in PHOENIX, and the most disturbing aspect of this tragedy is the PC handling of this by our local media… Calling it “HONOR KILLING”??? Defending him “she did not adhere to “IRAQI VALUES”??? Honor, values??? This was MURDER plain and simple… We seem to have a GUTSY prosecutor handling this, and I don’t believe SHE will see this as HONOR or VALUES… I also think she believes this ANIMAL had help in his attempted flight to freedom… If this is true I feel ACCOMPLICE TO 1st DEGREE MURDER is appropriate for anyone who aided this “FATHER” in his escape… And as usual the question remains, WHERE IS THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY to be heard??? Believe me the SILENCE IS DEAFENING here in Phoenix!!!

44. #44
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Capital punishment is too good for these barbarians. I advocate castration then life without parole. Live out their miserable lives as girlie-men in prison.

45. #45
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 11:37 am, scrubjay said:

    The battle front in this fight is now to save Rifqa Bary who is now in peril in Ohio. Her parents want to get her back so that they can either ship her off to Sri Lanka where she will ‘disappear’ or kill her outright. The clueless children’s services agency sees no threat from the muslim fanatics in her community.

46. #46
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 11:57 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    The clueless children’s services agency sees no refuses to see a threat from the muslim fanatics in her community.

    FIFY.

47. #47
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm, tre said:

    God, please accept Noor into Your presence.

    I propose the penalty for disHonor Killing is, the parents are shot with bullets dipped in pig blood, then buried in a pig sty with their mouths full of sausage.

48. #48
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm, Erbo said:

    Every day, I get closer and closer to just screaming out, like Delenn: “Animals! Kill them!! Kill them all!! NO MERCY!!! NO MERCY!!!”

    “Honor killings” have NO PLACE in America. NONE. END OF STORY.

49. #49
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm, greenfairie said:

    NOW and the Feminist Majority have issued a statement on this injustice:

    *Chirping crickets.*

50. #50
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Meanwhile, Nancy Grace has pictures of her twins she’d like to show you.

51. #51
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    If I may be serious for a second, I would like to remind the world that George Bush profoundly changed the lives of women in Afghanistan.

52. #52
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Muslims who agree with this kind of thinking are animals. Excusing this for any reason will only ensure it is perpetuated. Hnag him publicly.

53. #53
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Feminists are cowards, no matter how they try to portray themselves, otherwise this would be the top news story in the nation- and every additional instance. Its easy to be a radical when you hide behind the US military and Constitution.

54. #54
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm, frontierguy said:

    The battle front in this fight is now to save Rifqa Bary who is now in peril in Ohio.

    The good conservative people in Ohio should come together and hide this poor girl from the courts. Let’s face it, the justice system is broken, that is why more and more people are taking justice into their own hands, there is no trust that anyone will receive true justice and not a watered down, pc form of it that usually punishes the victim. This poor girl should be shuttled from home to home across the state until she turns 18 if need be. Don’t let the authorities find her.

55. #55
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The good conservative people in Ohio should come together and hide this poor girl from the courts.

    

56. #56
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm, Roland said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    If I may be serious for a second, I would like to remind the world that George Bush profoundly changed the lives of women in Afghanistan

    True. Sadly, it is not sustainable without our continuing to pour in large amounts of our blood and treasure. Forever. For no thanks or recognition even.

    Islam is evil. It is so incredibly evil I will soon not be allowed to say those words without paying a stiff price.

    If I was in Europe or Canada that would already be the case.

    They are winning. We are losing. All while we exhaust our strength on the other side of the world where it can do no good at all. We are trying to shovel back the ocean over there.

57. #57
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm, Jet Jaguar said:

    Another day, another loving act by a moderate Muslim.

58. #58
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm, spaceycakes said:

    AlohaGuy said:
    If I may be serious for a second, I would like to remind the world that George Bush profoundly changed the lives of women in Afghanistan

    If certain other posters here had said the exact same sentence above, they would somehow work ‘blame’ into it…

59. #59
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm, jjmurphy said:

    WHERE IS THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY to be heard??

    There will not be any condemnation for this or any other “honor” killing from the muslim community. I have come to believe even the so-called moderates agree with this practice and see the daughter as the villain.

60. #60
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm, granite said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm, jjmurphy said:

    WHERE IS THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY to be heard??

    There will not be any condemnation for this or any other “honor” killing from the muslim community.

    I have come to believe even the so-called moderates agree with this practice and see the daughter as the villain.

    ?Moderates?

    I think they are almost as numerous as unicorns.

61. #61
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm, cheapseat said:

    the muslim people invading, excuse me, living in the u.s. are just waiting until they have enough votes to dictate sharia law. the terrorist killed by the fbi last week in detroit wanted a muslim state, just as they have taken over 1/4 of the world, then kill anyone who disagrees. you better not think these are mexicans here to work, they are much more like conquistadores or the guatemalan gangs. they are here to conquer by the ballot or bullet.

62. #62
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm, Regulus said:

    So Mohammedans discover what any other parent in Western Civilization has already come to understand only too well: popular culture is not your ally.

    The answer? The same one they have for anything else that vexes them: devolve into a murderous rage.

    Mohammedanism is nothing but a massive exercise in self-justifying misogyny, paranoid xenophobia, self-pitying resentment and violent anti-social behavior.

    There’s a reason why it finds so many converts in prisons. We have in this sad story just one more reminder.

63. #63
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm, jjmurphy said:

    Mohammedanism is nothing but a massive exercise in self-justifying misogyny, paranoid xenophobia, self-pitying resentment and violent anti-social behavior.

    Well said, Regulus! Best darn description I have read about islam anywhere.

64. #64
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm, Regulus said:
    Mohammedanism is nothing but a massive exercise in self-justifying misogyny, paranoid xenophobia, self-pitying resentment and violent anti-social behavior.
    There’s a reason why it finds so many converts in prisons. We have in this sad story just one more reminder.

    And I suppose you are immune to the irony that exactly the same things have been and are still said of Christianity – and worse – over the ages, and are doubtless just as true, although Christianists tend to be a bit more circumspect about their superstitions and “beliefs.”

65. #65
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm, JusDreamin said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am, Dave the Libertarian said:
    I noticed, in the AP version of the story (I think), the original story mentioned that he was angry at her abandonment of MUSLIM values, but the later story said it was her abandonment of IRAQI values. I guess some editor scrubbed the later version of the story, and said “Oh, we can’t blame this on MUSLIM values! They’ll come for us, hang us in effigy!”

    Wow, good catch Dave. I thought it was strange when I read it the first time “Iraqi” values. Now it makes sense.

66. #66
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    So he skips over the border to Mexico and is able to hop on a plane from there to London. Gosh, why would he try to escape to London, of all places? I just don’t get it…

    Where are all the Muslim apologists now? Insinuating that the victim erred because she wanted to assimilate (link from Phyllis Chesler’s article, emphasis mine):

    The Muslim community throughout the Valley has since gathered to address the issue and figure out plans to stop domestic violence and avoid a similar tragedy in the future.

    “I believe such a crime has nothing to do with the teaching of Islam, the tolerant teaching of Islam, or of any religion,” said Ahmad Shqeirat, Imam of the Islamic Community Center of Tempe.

    Shqeirat said he and dozens of other Muslim leaders around the Valley met over the weekend to discuss outreach and education programs to raise awareness of domestic violence and raising children in the West.

    “We try to talk to our children, to educate them to go directly to marriage, but it doesn’t mean if one of these kids made a mistake, the reaction should be such a barbaric crime,” said Shqeirat.

    He and other Muslim leaders signed a “covenant” expressing a zero-tolerance policy for any kind of violence.

    As long as embracing Western culture is regarded as a mistake, there will be those (as of yet few in comparison to the total) in the American Islamic community who will continue to commit these acts of violence on their own family members.

    People came (and still come) to America to escape religious prosecution, yet the prosecution followed them here. We turn a blind eye to it at our own peril.

67. #67
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    How can these people understand democracy and freedom and still kill their own kids? you cannot mix medieval and modern cultures. We are wasting our time in the middle east.

68. #68
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    Yeah were is the religion of peace? all I hear are crickets

69. #69
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:23 pm, granite said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:19 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Where are all the Muslim apologists now?

    Perhaps there is one of them a few posts above, who is drawing the moral equivalence between this cult and “Christianists”.

70. #70
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm, robscottw said:

    Well then lets get serious about solving the problem –

    Thursday, February 08, 2007
    A Proposed Constitutional Amendment
    Background and justification to Amendment 28

    Whereas Religion is defined as an institution dedicated to improving social conscience and promoting individual and societal spiritual growth in a way that is harmless to others not participating in or practicing the same;

    Whereas the United States of America was founded on the ideals of individual rights, including the individual right to practice one’s religion of choice, or no religion, and that there would be no compulsion of religion, nor state sanctioned religion, nor a “religious test” for participation in the body politic;

    Whereas Islam includes a complete political and social structure, encompassed by its religious law, Sharia, that supersedes any civil law and that Islam mandates that no secular or democratic institutions are to be superior to Islamic law;

    Whereas Islam preaches that it and it alone is the true religion and that Islam will dominate the world and supplant all other religions and democratic institutions;

    Whereas Saudi Arabia, the spiritual home of Islam does not permit the practice of any other religion on its soil and even “moderate” Muslims states such as Turkey and Malaysia actively suppress other religions;

    Whereas Islam includes as its basic tenet the spread of the faith by any and all means necessary, including violent conquest of non-believers, and demands of its followers that they implement violent jihad (holy war) against those un-willing to convert or submit to Islam, including by deception and subversion of existing institutions;

    Whereas on 9/11/2001 19 Muslim hijackers acting in the name of Islam killed 3,000 Americans, and numerous other acts of terrorism have been directed at the American people around the world;

    Whereas representatives of Islam around the world including Osama Bin Laden (architect of 9/11), the government of Iran including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, HAMAS, Hezbollah, and other Islamic groups have declared jihad (war) on America, and regularly declare that America should cease to exist;

    Whereas there is no organized Islamic opposition to violent proponents of Islam;

    Therefore: Islam is not a religion, but a political ideology more akin to Fascism and totally in opposition to the ideals of freedom as described in the United States Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights.

    Be it resolved that the following Amendment to the Constitution be adopted:

    Article I

    The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.

    The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.

    Article II

    As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.

    Article III

    Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.

    The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.

    The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.

    Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.

    Article IV

    Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.

    originally posted at – http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html

    Until we recognize Islam for what it is – a VIOLENT, COLONIZING, IDEOLOGY OF CONQUEST (not a “religion”) – then we cannot solve the problem.

71. #71
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm, spaceycakes said:

    CO2 Producer said:

    Where are all the Muslim apologists now?

    LOL; granite answered it exactly as I would!

72. #72
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm, granite said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm, robscottw said:

    robscottw:
    I’ve seen that before.
    I cannot disagree with you.
    Your last sentence is spot on.

73. #73
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm, granite said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 2:42 pm, robscottw said:

    robscottw:
    I’ve seen that before.
    I cannot disagree with you.
    Your last sentence is spot on.

74. #74
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm, granite said:

    Oops.
    Double post.
    Apologies.

75. #75
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm, Papa Louie said:

    I’m pretty sure that somewhere in the Quran it says:
    “Paradise needs many virgins to reward jihadists who murder the innocent in the name of the religion of peace. Therefore, any daughter who grows up to become a woman must be put to death. if she happens to be in a parking lot where there are no stones, run her over with your Jeep Grand Cherokee.”

76. #76
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm, twofoot said:

    Animals..

77. #77
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    What the Quran Says About Women. And yet leftists constantly say that Christianity treats women poorly…

    The oppression of women that Islam advocates is not only disturbing, but is direct contrast with everything that Western civilization stands for when it comes to the rights of women.

    These are referenced from an article published from the American Thinker in 2005. Each one goes into much greater detail if you are interested in reading more on each verse. The article is here: Top 10 rules in the Quran that oppress women

    10. A husband has sex with his wife, as a plow goes into a field.

    The Quran in Sura (Chapter) 2:223 says:

    Your women are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like . . . . (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur’an, Oxford UP, 2004)

    9. Husbands are a degree above their wives.

    The Quran in Sura 2:228 says:

    . . . Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status . . . (Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur’an, vol. 1, p. 165)

    8. A male gets a double share of the inheritance over that of a female.

    The Quran in Sura 4:11 says:

    The share of the male shall be twice that of a female . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 311)

    7. A woman’s testimony counts half of a man’s testimony.

    The Quran in Sura 2:282 says:

    And let two men from among you bear witness to all such documents [contracts of loans without interest]. But if two men be not available, there should be one man and two women to bear witness so that if one of the women forgets (anything), the other may remind her. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 205).

    6. A wife may remarry her ex—husband if and only if she marries another man and then this second man divorces her.

    The Quran in Sura 2:230 says:

    And if the husband divorces his wife (for the third time), she shall not remain his lawful wife after this (absolute) divorce, unless she marries another husband and the second husband divorces her. [In that case] there is no harm if they [the first couple] remarry . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 165)

    5. Slave—girls are sexual property for their male owners.

    The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:

    And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands [as prisoners of war] . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319).

    4. A man may be polygamous with up to four wives.

    The Quran in Sura 4:3 says:

    And if you be apprehensive that you will not be able to do justice to the orphans, you may marry two or three or four women whom you choose. But if you apprehend that you might not be able to do justice to them, then marry only one wife, or marry those who have fallen in your possession. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 305)

    3. A husband may simply get rid of one of his undesirable wives.

    The Quran in Sura 4:129 says:

    It is not within your power to be perfectly equitable in your treatment with all your wives, even if you wish to be so; therefore, [in order to satisfy the dictates of Divine Law] do not lean towards one wife so as to leave the other in a state of suspense. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 381)

    2. Husbands may hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives (quite apart from whether they actually are highhanded).

    The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:

    4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (Haleem, emphasis added)

    1. Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.

    The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:

    65:1 O Prophet, when you [and the believers] divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting—period and count the waiting—period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet. As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden. (Maududi, vol. 5, pp. 599 and 617, emphasis added)

78. #78
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    And if the previous list wasn’t sufficient…

    Women

    Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”
    Tabari I:280 “Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’ Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid.”
    Qur’an 4:3 “If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with orphans, marry women of your choice who seem good to you, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to do justice (to so many), then only one, or (a slave) that you possess, that will be more suitable. And give the women their dower as a free gift; but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, eat it with enjoyment, take it with right good cheer and absorb it (in your wealth).”
    Qur’an 4:11 “Allah directs you in regard of your Children’s (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah.”
    Bukhari:V1B22N28 “The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.’ When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.’”
    Muslim:B1N142 “‘O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.’ A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah’s Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.’ Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.’”
    Qur’an 4:43 “Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.” [The Qur'an claims women are unclean and polluted - worse than dirt.]
    Bukhari:V4B55N547 “The Prophet said, ‘But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.’”
    Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”
    Qur’an 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify, confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them.”
    Bukhari:V4B52N143
    V5B59N523 “When we reached Khaybar, Muhammad said that Allah had enabled him to conquer them. It was then that the beauty of Safiyah was described to him. Her husband had been killed, so Allah’s Apostle selected her for himself. He took her along with him till we reached a place called Sad where her menses were over and he took her for his wife, consummating his marriage to her, and forcing her to wear the veil.’”
    Bukhari:V5B59N524 “The Muslims said among themselves, ‘Will Safiyah be one of the Prophet’s wives or just a lady captive and one of his possessions?’”
    Ishaq:593 “From the captives of Hunayn, Allah’s Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another.”
    Bukhari:V3B48N826 “The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’”
    Ishaq:584 “Tell the men with you who have wives: never trust a woman.”
    Ishaq:185 “In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards.”
    Qur’an 24:31 “Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty except what (must) appear; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display them except to their husbands…”
    Qur’an 24:34 “Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life. [And here's the freedom-to-pimp card:] But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”
    Ishaq:469 “The Apostle said, ‘Every wailing woman lies except those who wept for Sa’d.’”
    Tabari VIII:62
    Ishaq:496 “Ali [Muhammad's adopted son, son-in-law, and future Caliph] said, ‘Prophet, women are plentiful. You can get a replacement, easily changing one for another.’”
    Ishaq:496 “Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.’ So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, ‘Tell the Apostle the truth.’”
    Qur’an 24:1 “(This is) a surah which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful. For the woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah. And let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.”
    Qur’an 24:6 “And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves; let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by Allah that he is the one speaking the truth.”

79. #79
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Pretty obviously, based on these quotes, killing a daughter should come quite naturally to any Muslim so inclined to read his “holy texts.”

80. #80
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 5:03 pm, emjem24 said:

    Whose bright idea was it to let these people into this country? It’s time to freeze the immigration of these Muslim zealots. Let them rot in their own countries where they can do the worst damage and not in America.

81. #81
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 5:17 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    AmericaFirst said:

    Time to start offering these women, held hostage under Islamic Sharia Law, free handguns, ammo and training.

    WE should offer them at least as much support as some organizations do for illegal aliens. A local Woman’s Shelter here had to refuse State funding because the staff does indeed carry. The State’s position is Call 9-1-1, We Are Just Minutes Away-body bags at the ready.

    That is a superb point. Shove the liberal’s selective “concerns” in their faces, using their own arguments against them.

82. #82
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm, Weary Citizen said:

    On November 3rd, 2009 at 5:03 pm, emjem24 said:

    You said it brother. Our PC feel good politicians, trying to outdo one another with “see how compassionate I am”, allowed people like this into America. Which BTW was NEVER condoned by the American public (well, outside the uber liberal morons). IMHO, mass immigration over the past 40 years has transformed this country for the worst. Diseases thought to be eradicated are appearing again. Out of control gangs. Rampant crime even in areas that once had no crime other than petty crimes. Millions on welfare. Just dare to leave your house unlocked or fail to monitor your child’s whereabouts at all times. Mistrust among citizens. Even walking in Nat’l Forrests can get you killed. The list goes on. Coincidentally, the increase in this nonsense tracks nicely with the liberals decsionis to allow millions of immigrants into the nation each year. With the majority coming fomr 3rd world nations. I will one up you though. I call for a moratorium on all immigration for 10 years with the only exceptions being for immediate family of American citizens (with that capped at 100K/yr). We need to get our house in order and expel any immgigrant here less than 10 years and commits a felony offense.

83. #83
    On November 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm, Avi Green said:

    There’s going to be a rally in support of Rifqa Bary on November 16. If you live near enough to Ohio, be sure to be there!

84. #84
    On November 4th, 2009 at 4:26 am, CO2 Producer said:

    Re: my 2:19pm comment on 11/3—

    prosecution persecution

    Correcting a comment at a time when I would likely be making a comment that needs correcting.

    To granite and spacey: I almost threw Christianists in the mix, but I feared the possibility of Christianist prosec—er, persecution.