Comments on: Taxpayer message in Colorado Springs: “Shrink government”

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By: Designated Conservative

Designated Conservative — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:30:14 +0000

VICTORY UPDATE: Washtenaw County’s Taxation without Representation…

The 1997 law that allows the WISD to be the shill for a property tax that cannot legally benefit the WISD (all funds must be distributed to the individual school districts based on student population) is seriously flawed, in that it unreasonably insula…

By: Ron

Ron — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:54:13 +0000

Let’s face it, the responsible thing to do is curtail spending. If the money aint there, it aint there. Does that mean some people are going to be fired from government jobs? Yes, if that’s the only way we can balance the budget. Why should they be any better off than workers in the private sector? I don’t want to see anybody fired, but I don’t want to see runaway government growth and endless increases in spending and taxes. This cycle is totally ignored by Congress, where they just print money. Most city and state governments don’t have that “luxury.” It’s a pay-as-you-go operation, only we are increasingly unable to pay the tab. That means we go on a diet.

By: Jeddite

Jeddite — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:46:07 +0000

I voted for Initiative 1033 in Washington. Mostly because those political ads with fretting old people got on my nerves. Growwwrrwrrwwrrr, Grandma!!

By: emjem24

emjem24 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:17:49 +0000

I’m glad that 2C didn’t pass. It really struck me as backwards the way the City Council approached their budget shortfall. Some lame-brained city councilwoman said that 2C was the city’s way of asking for direction from the voter. So, they couldn’t figure out that voters had had enough of the scare tactics and fear mongering?

I live in Colorado Springs now. My husband and I “hope” to retire here and buy a home. Homeowners are already overburdened with not only their mortgage but decreasing home values. Property taxes would have just added to the pain that we’re all feeling right now.

By: scituate_tgr

scituate_tgr — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:55:15 +0000

AmericaFirst said: I guess it’s too difficult to axe people you work with on a daily basis and are close friends.

And there is the difference between business – an entity that has to make “business” decisions regardless of the difficulty, and government – which instinctively just goes to the well for more, more, more.

By: SpeakEasy

SpeakEasy — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:48:26 +0000

Re: closing rec centers, how about asking for volunteers? Why not appeal to civic clubs and schools to lend a hand? How about- and I know I’m dreaming here, asking those who benefit the most from those centers to provide the upkeep? If they do not want to help it run, it probably is not that important.

By: SpeakEasy

SpeakEasy — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:44:47 +0000

Every state that allows their government to run over them, raising property taxes (especially in this economy) taking away property rights and NOT SHRINKING GOVERNMENT deserve what they get- a failed state. Do not look to the other (mostly red ) states to bail you out- you made the bed, you lie in it.

I hear there is a woman named Medina running for governor of Texas who is pushing sovereign states rights. I think I’m moving to Texas if she wins.

By: Mach1Duck

Mach1Duck — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:36:31 +0000

Colorado Springs has pinned its revenues on growth. With a slow down in growth, they loose revenue. I have been associated with the Springs since ’67 when Acadamy Blvd was still dirt and have watched it expand unchecked. Todate, the developers have called the shots, and now that they are moving on. Well?

By: dan708

dan708 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:35:40 +0000

The only way the voters might ever accept big-govt fear tactics is if they took out an ad in the local paper laying out EXACTLY TO THE PENNY where taxpayer money is spent. Then, they should invite the citizenry to suggest what should be cut.

Of course, this will NEVER happen because pols would be faced with letting go of people who helped get them elected.

By: happy2behere

happy2behere — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:35:05 +0000

I also remember the 1980s and the Colorado oil bust when almost every other home listed the Gazette was in foreclosure. Notice a similarity? Had the city built the convention center in the good times, it would be reaping the tax revenues today. I don’t like raising taxes either, but not voting a convention center was an appalling lack of foresight. Penny wise and pound foolish.

By: Dexter Alarius

Dexter Alarius — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:16:07 +0000

“The people of Colorado Springs don’t seem to believe the claims that the heavens will fall if the city isn’t allowed to raise these taxes,” he said.

That’s why I voted NO on 2C, as well. There’s a lot of fat that can be trimmed; no need to warn about the meat.

By: zyzzyg

zyzzyg — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:14:59 +0000

On November 4th, 2009 at 11:17 am, TooMuchTime said: #835644 and # 835659

I agree that to give up power is a strong reason and motivation to go against the staus quo. I would say it is more about self preservation than socialism. I think it is an inherent human characteristic to give up anything voluntarily. If you have experienced a two year old, you know what I am talking about. Everyone of every political stripe is initialy reluctant to give up power.

And yes, I agree, politicians and people with myopic veiws will often use misrepresetations of the facts to advance their own agenda. There are certainly things that can done be better in private hands vice public hands.

With regard to the specific issues in Colorado, and more generally across the country, I don’t believe there is one answer, but many solutions, and that we should not be afraid, or confined to our political ideologies, to explore them. Then use what works.

Yep, it is all about power struggles, my rice bowl, and loosing control, whatever you political outlook is, or isn’t.

By: Truesoldier

Truesoldier — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:59:15 +0000

Here in WA ST we had a chance to limit government growth through initiative 1033. Sadly the voters did not approve it, which the liberal legislature will take a sign that it is ok to pass higher taxes and the Governor will use it as way to push the income tax she so desperatly wants to push onto the voters.

By: Mr Wolf

Mr Wolf — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:52:26 +0000

Last night, I finally got a good look at what ‘Conservatives’ will be up against in the upcoming elections. Anyone

who thinks the Party Machine GOP is accepting what is going on is deluded.

I signed up for a call for Sen Demint’s SenateConservatives.com to discuss candidates that are CONSERVATIVE and wish

to run to un-seat either Dems or ‘squishy’ R(INOS) in districts across the country. I am a campaign advisor to the

ONLY real CONSERVATIVE running for Senate here in Colorado, and we were NOT allowed to even participate.

The conf. call’s attendant came on, asked me what my question/concern was, and then I was never called upon to address

the call. I know, for a fact, there were at least 13 callers on the conf. call for my candidate, but NONE were

allowed to address the call.

The call ONLY permitted TWO Senate candidates- Norton, and Buck, here in CO. NEITHER are true CONSERVATIVES in the

‘mold’ that Sen Demint’s site is looking for (at least, outwardly).

3 lies were told on the call:

–After a poll, 78% voted for Buck, ZERO voted for Norton, and 22% were ‘other or undecided’ (my only option) IF ONLY

ONE PERSON voted for Norton, she would have had a percentage.

–They had a poll on positions of various concern to Conservatives. SEVERAL came up ’100%’ in one direction or

another, EVEN THOUGH several people voted the opposite way.

–At the end of the call, they announced that ’100% of the attendees would like another call similar to this one’,

again, even though MANY on the call voted NO (just to skew the results and prove the call was a sham)

I am EXTREMELY disillusioned by this- and I am of the mind that the GOP party is running scared, and trying to ‘join

in’ on the disappointment that people feel for their performance in DC under the Obama-ites.

We are going to find out who’s behind this, and fight them every step of the way.

This is disgusting. Its politics, but, IF YOU HAVE NO INTEGRITY, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS HANDLING MY MONEY (RE: BEING IN

POLITICS AND HANDLING MY TAXES)

Wolf