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1. #1
   On November 5th, 2009 at 8:31 am, stillontheroad said:

   Under Piglosi care – anyone with a pre-existing condition can wait for 6 months before care is given – huge talking point to battle the Botox Beast.

2. #2
   On November 5th, 2009 at 8:36 am, chapoutier said:

   Interestingly, he seems to forget to mention that the CBO also estimated it would reduce the uninsured by only 3 million people .

3. #3
   On November 5th, 2009 at 8:44 am, Truesoldier said:

   I would like to know what the cost of the GOP bill. It seems Boehner left it out which tends to make me suspicious.

4. #4
   On November 5th, 2009 at 8:48 am, TigerLady said:

   Why don’t they focus on the 42 million..oh wait a minute….the estmated 12 million CITIZENS who do not have health care and leave the 85% of insured citizens alone?

   Here’s a great link to watch–I’m encouraged by the speaker:

   http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=G44NCvNDLfc

5. #5
   On November 5th, 2009 at 8:52 am, b-cat said:

   Keep on eye out for Newt Gingrich. He’ll be prowling around looking for a photo op. Just days after his endorsement in NY-23 expired. The guy has no shame.

6. #6
   On November 5th, 2009 at 8:53 am, jangar said:

   Only one way to reform Healthcare…surgically remove Government from it. It’s a consumer issue.

7. #7
   On November 5th, 2009 at 8:57 am, Truesoldier said:

   Ok here is a link to the CBO scoring.

   It looks like the gross cost over 10 years is $61 billion over 10 years with the net cosst being $8 billion:

   That estimate reflects a projected net cost of $8 billion over 10 years for the
   provisions directly related to insurance coverage; that net cost reflects a gross cost
   of $61 billion that is partly offset by about $52 billion in additional revenues
   associated with the coverage provisions. Over the same period, the other provisions
   of the amendment would reduce direct spending by $49 billion and increase tax
   revenues by $27 billion.

   Much better than what has been proposed by Pelosi and Co.

8. #8
   On November 5th, 2009 at 9:00 am, jangar said:

   Another side of this ObamaCare debate that is not being talked about…it will bancrupt every state’s budget, not just Federal.

9. #9
   On November 5th, 2009 at 9:01 am, chapoutier said:

   Ohhh, you gotta love footnotes.

   1 We expect that states would also spend several billion dollars to help achieve the targets specified under the State Innovations program.

   Really? Several billion dollars each? Is this just pushing the cost down to the state level?

10. #10
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:07 am, tiredofit08 said:

    piglosi may try to restrict access to the capitol bldg today…gee will she be cowering in her office afraid of actually talking to someone who she works for not who she employs?? remove her from office, ship her and reid and the rest of the morons and put them in gitmo in rubber rooms…

    http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/11/michelle-bachmann-warns-it-would-be-big.html

11. #11
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:12 am, KVal57 said:

    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:01 am, chapoutier said:
    Ohhh, you gotta love footnotes.

    1 We expect that states would also spend several billion dollars to help achieve the targets specified under the State Innovations program.
    Really? Several billion dollars each? Is this just pushing the cost down to the state level?

    Where does that footnote state “EACH”?

12. #12
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:14 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    And that is what I shall do-watch and call while listening to Rush at the EIB Golden Microphone.

    Now if we can disabuse Nancy “Botox” Pelosi of a delusional notion is to be seen. I believe she NEEDS to be delusional-reality would be too hard: she fears the Lizard people from V are after her and want to turn her into jerky. The Lizard people from V have a Universal Health Plan for us also. Harry Reid is a Lizard People plant although his is a poor disguise..

13. #13
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:14 am, chapoutier said:

    Where does that footnote state “EACH”?

    I wasn’t sure if it was each or not. Hence the question mark.

14. #14
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:16 am, prendad said:

    Burris talks just like Pelosi, with disjointed sentences, thoughts that change abruptly, and horrible grammar. It is impossible to follow their trains of thought when they are trying to express an opinion because, sadly, their verbiage totally lacks syntax. And these people are members of Congress? But, in their own minds, I am sure that they think of themselves as mental giants.

15. #15
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:19 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    chapoutier said:

    Interestingly, he seems to forget to mention that the CBO also estimated it would reduce the uninsured by only 3 million people .

    That’s a great number. It’s about 50% of the uninsured citizens who want but can’t get insurance. And all for free.

16. #16
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Continuing on that point…

    which means that the Conservative/Republican plan is far far better than the liberal/socialist’s plan.

17. #17
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am, jangar said:

    Burris talks just like Pelosi, with disjointed sentences, thoughts that change abruptly, and horrible grammar. It is impossible to follow their trains of thought when they are trying to express an opinion because, sadly, their verbiage totally lacks syntax. And these people are members of Congress? But, in their own minds, I am sure that they think of themselves as mental giants.

    How can anyone make sense when they know what they are saying is a bald-faced lie?

18. #18
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:22 am, b-cat said:

    In fact, the word “health” appears nowhere in the Constitution.

    That’s because the Framers were not charlatans.

19. #19
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:22 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Universal Health Care MIGHT work. It seems to be working in New Zealand.

    Pay problem parents not to breed – mayor

20. #20
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:25 am, chapoutier said:

    That’s a great number. It’s about 50% of the uninsured citizens who want but can’t get insurance. And all for free.

    I know that there is dispute about the number of actual uninsured but you can’t accept the CBO’s numbers in one instance and reject them in another.

    The CBO estimates by 2019 55 million uninsured. From this figure it determines 3 million less by this plan.

21. #21
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:29 am, chapoutier said:

    Anyhow,

    I am going to head down to the Capitol to join in all the fun. I’ll be the one in the Redeye’s Dock Bar hat.

22. #22
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:35 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    The CBO estimates by 2019 55 million uninsured. From this figure it determines 3 million less by this plan.

    I’m not familiar with that estimate. But it no doubt’s includes people here illegally and people who choose not to buy health insurance.

    I know of the 46 million figure democrats claim. But that number is known to include approx 15 million illegals. Before I run down the remaining composition, I should look up the figures but I recall the number of uninsured citizens who actually want health insurance to be as high as 10 million but as low as 5 million.

    So knocking off 3 million of those while not adding taxes would be quite an accomplishment.

23. #23
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:36 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    chapoutier said:

    Anyhow,

    I am going to head down to the Capitol to join in all the fun. I’ll be the one in the Redeye’s Dock Bar hat.

    Have a good time chap and please don’t give Mark Levin a hard time. I would enjoy saying hello but I’m a good distance from DC.

24. #24
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:37 am, chapoutier said:

    So knocking off 3 million of those while not adding taxes would be quite an accomplishment.

    But again, if you amend your estimate of uninsured, which I am not disagreeing with, it would surely amend downward the number able to then get insurance under the plan.

25. #25
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:38 am, Gabe said:

    *Now is the time to disabuse Nancy Pelosi of the delusional notion that she “won” election night.*

    What we need to do here in Virginia is contact our two Democratic senators who ran as center-right Democrats (to trick the voters of Virginia) and are now voting as Left as can be possible.

    Tell them they better think twice about how they are voting on socialist health care, cap and trade, and other issues if they still want a job when they run again.

    The election results in Virginia show that the Democrat strategy during the Bush years of running candidates PRETENDING to be center-right while campaigning to get Democrat numbers up in Congress and the Senate from red states. . . and then having them vote as far Left socialists as if they have a mandate to do so. . . is OVER.

26. #26
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:41 am, b-cat said:

    What we need to do here in Virginia is contact our two Democratic senators who ran as center-right Democrats (to trick the voters of Virginia) and are now voting as Left as can be possible.

    That is how most Democrats get elected, not just in Va.

27. #27
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:48 am, Savage24 said:

    It’s amazing , this woman could be a couple of heart beats away from being President. If that doesn’t scare the hell out of you , nothing ever will.

28. #28
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am, cheapseat said:

    chap; IF WE AGREE THERE ARE MORE THAN 15 MILLION ILLEGALS IN THE U.S.; then we start out with 40 million uninsured CITIZENS. where did schips go? where does medicaid go? so really we have 10% of our citizens (young healthy poor workers who gamble they won’t need health insurance as much as they need a new house). for this we are going to create 110 new beaurocracies and tax the american citizen another trillion dollars over 10 years. get real congress.

29. #29
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:52 am, happyscrapper said:

    Meanwhile, Babs Boxer just snuck through a “crap and tax” bill while we weren’t looking. It was just announced on FOX News. Stay vigiliant. This is another bill that CANNOT stand!!

30. #30
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:53 am, b-cat said:

    Comments closed on the test score thread?!

31. #31
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am, Gabe said:

    That is how most Democrats get elected, not just in Va.

    It was a concerted strategy especially in the South and the Rocky Mountains to lower Republican numbers in Congress during the Bush years. They ran Dems who were virtually indistinguishable from the Republicans. Then with the help of the media, they act like they have a huge mandate to make us into a socialist country.

    That strategy has really backfired. What Virginia shows is that the voters have woken up. It was just a matter of time, and Obama, Pelosi, and Reid all knew this. That is why they wanted to get health care and cap and trade passed as fast as possible.

    Hopefully, it won’t pass either the House or the Senate now.

32. #32
    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:56 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    What we need to do here in Virginia is contact our two Democratic senators who ran as center-right Democrats (to trick the voters of Virginia) and are now voting as Left as can be possible.

    Sadly all too many voters are easily tricked everywhere. Before Senator Webb was Senator I thought he was a good man. Then he opened his mouth and it is hard to believe how far Left he went/was besides being one rude, belligerent jerk. Perhaps he is John McCains love child. But Senators pay is $174K a year and they pay about $500 for the most gold plated insurance plan imaginable.If Botox treatments are included I do not know.

    But I do know I do not trust them to walk my dogs much less decide my health decisions. But I shell keep my one good eye out for the Redeye’s Dock Bar hat. If there is more than one wave.

33. #33
    On November 5th, 2009 at 10:02 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    chapoutier said:

    So knocking off 3 million of those while not adding taxes would be quite an accomplishment.

    But again, if you amend your estimate of uninsured, which I am not disagreeing with, it would surely amend downward the number able to then get insurance under the plan.

    Yes, that’s one possibility. Which would mean the addt’l insured under this plan could be about 1 million give or take 250K using my very very rough math and whatever assumptions the CBO is using to come up with these numbers.

    But I see problems with their uninsured number versus the number they are using for illegals that are uninsured.

    The latter being by their estimate 2% of the non-elderly population.

    If the non-elderly pop is 262 million, then the CBO assumption for illegals is about 5 million. Low by at least 200%.

    Yet they use 40 million as their uninsured figure. It just doesn’t foot with what should be accepted figures.

    As for the 3 million addt’l insured by this plan, we’d have to dig deeper. but it seems to me that the CBO would not be basing that number on a percentage of presently uninsured people. But rather the funds available to use for insurance payments and what a policy is estimated to cost.

    But I do understand your point, and it has merit. But do you follow where I’m coming from chap?

34. #34
    On November 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    b-cat said:

    What we need to do here in Virginia is contact our two Democratic senators who ran as center-right Democrats (to trick the voters of Virginia) and are now voting as Left as can be possible.

    That is how most Democrats get elected, not just in Va.

    Yes, it’s also what happens in many districts in NJ. I can think of a few congressman who ran as centrists but vote liberal 99% of the time. And no one calls them out on it. It’s a disgrace that they get away with these lies. Rush Holt being an example of someone who lied about his position when campaigning.

35. #35
    On November 5th, 2009 at 10:13 am, Reg.conservative said:

    In the Dem’s plan medicaid is to be increased, a big part of that will fall on the State.

36. #36
    On November 5th, 2009 at 10:18 am, Veretax said:

    Michelle,

    Out of curiosity where can we find this “republican” bill? And how many pages is it? Cause I’m curious.

37. #37
    On November 5th, 2009 at 10:44 am, txvet2 said:

    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:29 am, chapoutier said:

    Anyhow,

    I am going to head down to the Capitol to join in all the fun. I’ll be the one in the Redeye’s Dock Bar hat.

    Spying for the DNC? Why don’t you get a real job?

38. #38
    On November 5th, 2009 at 10:49 am, graysonret said:

    I can think of a few congressman who ran as centrists but vote liberal 99% of the time.

    They probably were in the center until they got a visit from the “elites”, once elected. They were most likely told that if they wanted any bills/ideas seriously looked at, or want to win re-election, they had better “toe the party line”. Few can withstand the pressure, and be “hung out to dry”. It’s been that way in congress since parties became dominant.

39. #39
    On November 5th, 2009 at 10:51 am, txvet2 said:

    chap; IF WE AGREE THERE ARE MORE THAN 15 MILLION ILLEGALS IN THE U.S.; then we start out with 40 million uninsured CITIZENS.

    No, there are also millions of legal resident aliens and other short term visitors who are undoubtedly also included in their numbers, which are all flat guesses anyway.

40. #40
    On November 5th, 2009 at 11:42 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Don’t expect Michael Steele to show up. ABC released a video showing Steele bristling over NY-23 and telling “out-of-state” people that their opinion doesn’t count.

    Well thank you Mikey! We don’t care about you either! Apparently, the GOP elites are only interested in talking to a few hundred local voters at a time. Mikey: Republican NATIONAL Committee? Duh!!

41. #41
    On November 5th, 2009 at 11:52 am, stillontheroad said:

    Here is a good one:
    “Unfortunately, Speaker Pelosi’s 2,032-page government takeover of health care does just that. On line 17, p. 110, section 222 under “Abortions for which Public Funding is Allowed” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run plan. The Speaker’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions.”
    And who is HHS? Kitty Cat Sebelius, the Abortin Queen of Kasas.

42. #42
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:07 pm, Gabe said:

    I just tried to find my congressman’s contact info on the House wepage–liberal Gerry Connolly of Virginia–to send a message that he as Catholic should not vote for Pelosi’s bill that will force everyone to pay for abortions.

    But I’m just getting a message that the server is too busy and cannot process the request:

    The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request.
    Application server is busy. Either there are too many concurrent requests or the server still is starting up.

43. #43
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pm, sultanp said:

    Any mainstream media coverage yet?

    CNN or MSNBC cameras?

    Nope – nothing happening outside the Capitol today…

44. #44
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, AF Sarge (Ret) said:

    Any bets that the MSM spins it as “hundreds of protesters” and not “thousands”? Much like the 9/12 protests were “thousands”?

    Sarge

45. #45
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    GREAT JOB!! The photos show the GRAY PANTHERS striking again in D.C. The people, the American Flags, and the homemade signs say it all. Proud Americans standing strong against changing the U.S.A. into Comrade Obama’s (PBUH) United Socialistic States of Amerikka.
    ***
    Fill the streets around the Capital with protesters. Make it clear to the “Blue Dogs” and RINO’s that they are toast in the 2010 election if they vote for this C**P SANDWICH. INCOMING!!
    ***
    I wish Sarah Palin, Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, John Bolton, etc. were leading this crowd. I think Mark Levin is there. It would make it impossible for the American Pravda (not MSM) media to ignore the event with REAL CONSERVATIVE HORSEPOWER present.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

46. #46
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Questions about the nine arrested. Who called in the complaints? What exactly are the charges?

47. #47
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:19 pm, surfhut said:

    Comments after Politico article indicate the arrests were made in Lieberman’s office, and they were all pro ObamaCare folks. Politico’s article makes it sound like they are tea partiers.

48. #48
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm, stevevvs said:

    The Proper argrument is the Federal Government has no Constitutional Right to
    provide health care..PERIOD.

    Too bad the GOP is so lost.

    The Constitution Party seems the only hope going forward..

49. #49
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm, guitarplayer said:

    Politico reports that thousands have descended on the Capitol.

    But these people obviously don’t represent the majority of Americans who want quality and affordable healthcare from the government.

    At least that’s what the MSMs will say if they bother to report on them at all.
    

50. #50
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, surfhut said:

    Politico has altered their article and now identifies the arrests as members of Code Pink. Politico … BUSTED.

51. #51
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pm, rooster said:

    Proud Americans standing strong against changing the U.S.A. into Comrade Obama’s (PBUH) United Socialistic States of Amerikkka.

    Rocketman, you left out one k in Obama’s amerikkka.

52. #52
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:43 pm, rambler said:

    Pelosi et al are just fueling the tea party movement. I loving every minute of this. Unemployment for all Constitution ignoring elected officials. We want our country back.

53. #53
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm, nlebou said:

    On November 5th, 2009 at 10:18 am, Veretax said:
    Michelle,

    Out of curiosity where can we find this “republican” bill? And how many pages is it? Cause I’m curious.

    Here it is.

54. #54
    On November 5th, 2009 at 12:49 pm, NC BLUE said:

    All the numbers on uninsured are a load of crap. They include illegals, young bullet proof adults who would rather spend their money at Starbucks, individuals eligible for Medicaid who haven’t or won’t sign up, and others. It is akin to trying to goose a ghost. This is just a created crisis like the H1H1 flu.

55. #55
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, cheapseat said:

    10% of 280 million people is 28million. if we ASSUME the population is evenly distributed from birth to average age of death at 80, then there are 35million people in each decade (birth – ten years, 10 – 20 years old, etc) yet our genious ms pelosi wants the taxpayer to pay for the elderly over 65 (43 million) with medicare, 70 million children (schips), the poor with medicaid (?), and now the 20+ young healthy (who of course don’t need medical care and hence just get the joy of being taxed) ALL TO BUILD A BIGGER BETTER SOCIALIST BEAUROCRACY.

56. #56
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, farmgal said:

    What’s the deal the video was changed because The White House is having a press briefing? No one is out on the Capitol grounds?

57. #57
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm, Flyoverman said:

    My Congressman is a true Pelosi Puppet.

    He’s 2 + 2 = 5 right out of 1984. This Legislative Lemming of mine will do anything San Fran Nan tells him to.

    I hope the Republicans get some non-RINO to run against this guy. I they do we can unseat him. However, the RINO’s own the State RC so I am not optimistic.

58. #58
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:15 pm, farmgal said:

    I meant to say what are they going to say Obama didn’;t see any protesters.

59. #59
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:15 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, farmgal said:

    What’s the deal the video was changed because The White House is having a press briefing? No one is out on the Capitol grounds?

    Convenient isn’t it? Obama is going to release his Birth Certificate, college transcripts and tell of his alien abduction and Second Coming.

    V

60. #60
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pm, stillontheroad said:

    Why don’t you know – he is going to announce the formation of the ” Peace Ambassador Program” run by Americor.

61. #61
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm, behiker said:

    Speaking of Nancy…

    The Pope and Nancy Pelosi are on stage in front of a huge crowd.

    The Pope leans towards Mrs. Pelosi and says, “Do you know that with one wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, like that of your followers, but it will go deep into their hearts. And for the rest of their lives, whenever they speak of this day they will rejoice!”

    Pelosi replied, “I seriously doubt that with one little wave of your hand you can do that. Show me.”

    So the Pope slapped her.

62. #62
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Call democrat reps!

    http://www.elvisblogs.org/family/contact-congress-list-email-phone-fax-numbers-all-representatives-senators-2009

63. #63
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, martin.musculus said:

    The part of MMs report that stands out so glaringly when I read it was yhis:

    When asked by CNSNews.com what specific part of the Constitution authorizes Congress to mandate that individuals must purchase health insurance, Sen. Roland Burris (D-Ill.) pointed to the part of the Constitution that he says authorizes the federal government “to provide for the health, welfare and the defense of the country.” In fact, the word “health” appears nowhere in the Constitution.

    AReading that quote, at 1st I thought that the DisHon. Burris simply has a thinking disability. Pondering more deeply, I realized that this statement was aimed at the huge mass of “citizens” uninformed of the contents of our Founding Documents.

    If we inform The People, most will stand with Freedom. THIS is why the Progressives have eaten up the mechanics of education our youth. Only an educated and informed Citizenry can have (and BTW, deserves) Freedom.

    This method is spread out in most of the books of their ideology, no collusion or conspiracy necessary.

    Another case where they’ve told us what they’re going to do, we simply did listen.

64. #64
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:50 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Interestingly, he seems to forget to mention that the CBO also estimated it would reduce the uninsured by only 3 million people .

    My understanding of Obamacare is that it would still leave 2/3 of the presently uninsured – uninsured. The whole point of Obamacare is to get the government to take over another industry.

    We still don’t have exact numbers of how many uninsured choose big screen TVs instead…

65. #65
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:51 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    THIS is why the Progressives have eaten up the mechanics of education our youth.

    Exactly. Keep them ignorant, then tell them anything.

66. #66
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I’ll be the one in the Redeye’s Dock Bar hat.

    Pleazse somebody, get a video of Chap.

67. #67
    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pm, labwrs said:

    LIVE on CSPAN3 right now! Michelle Bachman just gave out 2 full copies of the bill and asked the crowd to take 1 page or a half page, hand it to their Representative and ask them to EXPLAIN IT TO THEM *LOL* BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!

68. #68
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:02 pm, single stack said:

    Out of curiosity where can we find this “republican” bill? And how many pages is it? Cause I’m curious.

    The Republicans have attempted to introduce 32 health care reform bills in the House but they were all blocked by Pelosi.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Democrats-stifle-Republican-health-care-plans-8224780-58644807.html

    Here is the one that was introduced:
    (hat tip to nlebou)

    http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare

69. #69
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:02 pm, Khyris said:

    Did anyone else notice that the President made his unusual appearance at the press briefing to coincide exactly with Bachmann’s speech?

70. #70
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm, martin.musculus said:

    #836939On
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm, behiker said:
    Speaking of Nancy…

    …

    Thanks!

71. #71
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:06 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    Looking at the usual leftist websites like HuffPo, DU, and Kos, I see they are wasting no time belittl
    eing the effort. I’ve seen the standard claims of how all the people were “bussed in” by various right-wing groups, that it is nothing more than a staged event, mention of confederate flags, and last, but certainly not least the race card.

72. #72
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, frostrt said:

    On November 5th, 2009 at 9:14 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
    And that is what I shall do-watch and call while listening to Rush at the EIB Golden Microphone.

    Now if we can disabuse Nancy “Botox” Pelosi of a delusional notion is to be seen. I believe she NEEDS to be delusional-reality would be too hard: she fears the Lizard people from V are after her and want to turn her into jerky. The Lizard people from V have a Universal Health Plan for us also. Harry Reid is a Lizard People plant although his is a poor disguise..

    ————————————-

    The leader of the V’s (new version) also claimed that their home planet was very much like Earth, except that they all live together in peace and are not divided into countries. Kinda sounds like the world Pres Obama wants to believe we live in.

    As in the original, what the V’s say when they first arrive on our planet sounds too good to be true, and so it is . . .

73. #73
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, right_on said:

    Why does anyone want to spend money we don’t have? Politics.

    Not to be negative, but to have a Republican, at the onset of this event, lead the throng in the Pledge of Allegiance, and not knowing the word, “indivisible”, was rather uninspiring.

    Seeing the faces of all the RINOs in the background was also uninspiring.

    My conclusion, not that it matters, is that this gathering, which I thought had been hastily organized by conservative Rep. Michelle Bachmann, was either (a) co-opted by the RINO leadership (for yet one more political stunt,) or (b) was planned by the RINO leadership all along. Neither option makes me trust the party any more. To the contrary.

    Michelle Bachmann didn’t look too happy…

    It reminds me of a joke about politicians; A politician looks out of his office window, and notices a mass of people marching in a protest parade. He turns to a reporter and says, “Those are my people. I must go out and lead them!”

    Um…y-e-a-h.

74. #74
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:15 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Robert, uh, Gibbs, uh, uh, is uh, on, uh TV, uh, right, uh, now, uh, talking down the, uh, lunatics, uh, at, uh, the rally, uh, on, uh, the, uh, Capitol, uh, Hill, were, uh, not, uh, uh, very, uh, articulate, uh…

    What a joke!

75. #75
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:30 pm, tbear44 said:

    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:52 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    I’ll be the one in the Redeye’s Dock Bar hat.
    Pleazse somebody, get a video of Chap.

    I could do without seeing that, TYVM.

76. #76
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:33 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    a caller at the capitol building just called the Wilkow majority show and said he saw a few old ladies being arrested by cap police for praying…the cops warned him not to get involved or they’d be arrested…hopefully it was recorded on audio/video if true…

77. #77
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:38 pm, rightwingmom said:

    The chat on Blog Talk Radio was interesting!

78. #78
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:39 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Heard Sen. Bennet (CO) had people (who dared approach him) arrested.

    Can anyone confirm this?

79. #79
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:44 pm, paulrtaylor said:

    I wish I could at the capitol today to stand with everyone else.

80. #80
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:48 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Woo Hoo ~ calls are working!

    Rep. Kralovil (D-MD) has changed his mind as of this morning!

    He is voting AGAINST the Healthcare bill!

81. #81
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:50 pm, cicerokid said:

    Called every congresscritter on the list, some twice…

82. #82
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:50 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Correction – Kratovil

83. #83
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Kratovil? Sounds like something you might take for excess gas or bloating…

84. #84
    On November 5th, 2009 at 2:56 pm, Major O said:

    On November 5th, 2009 at 1:50 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Interestingly, he seems to forget to mention that the CBO also estimated it would reduce the uninsured by only 3 million people .

    My understanding of Obamacare is that it would still leave 2/3 of the presently uninsured – uninsured. The whole point of Obamacare is to get the government to take over another industry.

    We still don’t have exact numbers of how many uninsured choose big screen TVs instead…

    Spot on.

    And this is just a start. There are other basic proposals that could be added that would even further truly reduce the cost of medical care for all needing it without decreasing the quality.

    But I also want to underscore my opposition to the premise–who said reducing the number of uninsured was ultimately the responsibility of the federal government (or any government for that matter)? As long as conservatives yield that premise out-of-the-gate, the argument will always prevail, “But there’s uninsured still!!” and then follows 20/20 episodes showing how the dastardly conservatives forced Granny out on the ice floe to die.

    It’s the conservative position that, by removing obstacles that prevent medical care being moved by market forces, we can bring the overall availability UP. That said, there’s nothing to do for those who simply will not pay for it. I confess–back in the day, I was one such. I figured it wasn’t worth the expenditure and if I got hurt, the county would pick up the bill if it was really catastrophic. There’s nothing that can be done for those with that mindset (nothing fair to all taxpayers, anyways) and that holds true for illegals as well.

85. #85
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:06 pm, chapoutier said:

    I just got back from the rally. Some thoughts.

    Crowd size? I know I have seen a map giving crowd estimates (i.e., how many people can fit in each particular section of the Mall and Capitol area, but I can’t find it. Anyway, the rally was on the west side of the Capitol. The area stretching from the steps, down to 1st street was probably about 1/4 densely packed. Best guess? 30-40 thousand. I really have no idea though.

    The setup of the stage was atrocious. I arrived 1 hour and 45 minutes early and because of the set up I literally got 2 mere glances at Voigt. Maybe one of Michele. It was almost like they were TRYING to exclude as many people as possible from seeing the speakers. The could have put the podium in the middle of the steps, and heck maybe even elevated on the steps so that more than the first three rows could see anything. What they CHOSE to do was stich the podium in the far right corner (again, facing the Capitol), which area was mostly cordoned off for VIPs and the Press. Which brings me to my next point…

    The program was terrible. Obviously everyone there wanted to hear Michele, Levin and Voigt. They also had Cliff from Cheers. After that it was an endless litany of no name representatives giving repetitive 3-5 minute speeches. Seriously there must have been at least 30, each more boring than the last. Okay, people got excited about Joe Wilson. Other than that, even the people that actually LIKED theses Reps, were getting annoyed and tired. This went on for about 2 hours. You had a lot of people, including a good many older people in the crowd that were packed in, unable to move or sit down for over 3 and a half hours. All of this so that every silly little representative under the sun could make sure he got his 3 minutes of preening and screaming for the cameras. The emcee even made the joke (after 1 hour 45 minutes) that DC is the city where everything has been said but not everyone has said it.

    Lots of great posters. My favorite was “Obama takes his oders from the Rothschilds.” No I did not misspell his sign.

86. #86
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:11 pm, chapoutier said:

    Other thoughts…now that I have been reminded. Unfortunately no one caught me there. One woman behind me said “Redeye’s…” and I thought for a second it might be one of you. but she was just curious if I was from Kent Narrows (where the bar is).

    And I heard one person say “red pill, blue pill.” I got away quickly away, for fear it might be OUR Redpill.

    I talked to some very nice people, both on the way to the rally and while there. I did not engage or debate anyone. Not the place to pick a fight when you have zero escape routes

87. #87
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:16 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    PelosiCare will require a mandatory monthly contribution to pay for elective abortions.

    The bill sets the required montly surcharge to pay for abortions at no less than $1 per month.

88. #88
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:25 pm, chapoutier said:

    Actually… I am in the second picture down. Tan cap on left side (apropos) turned away from camera.

89. #89
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:28 pm, bjc said:

    *Bravo to those that are attending; I’ve been calling and e-mailing my 3 regarding Medicrap and Cap & Tax; Must keep the heat on, as Pelosi will still press ahead by just counting votes, allowing some blue dogs to peel off and save their bacon; Regardless of the outcomes, we must target for removal in 2010 all those that make unprincipled votes and decisions, and that’s about 90% of these rat bastards!

90. #90
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:29 pm, ScottyDog said:

    We are watching the systematic destruction of our Constitutional Republic. There is no authority for the federal Government to mandate health care yet we have people on this board debating the minutia of the bill.

    The Rockefeller CFR/trilateral New World Elitists are essentially staging a coup de ta while the American people are basically in shock.Everyday another unconstitutional law is rammed down our throats with little or no debate.

    For the life of me where is the rule of law. Just like Michele Bachmann said in a recent speech we are being ruled by thugs and crooks.

    I am sorry but debating bills that are illegal seems a little silly.

91. #91
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:32 pm, tbear44 said:

    “If the public option is good enough for the American people, then it’s certainly good enough for Congress.” —Joe Wilson

92. #92
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, Savage24 said:

    The sad thing here is that Pelosi and the rest of the democrats don’t give one hoot in hell what the American people think or want.

93. #93
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:42 pm, ScottyDog said:

    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm, Savage24 said:

    The sad thing here is that Pelosi and the rest of the democrats don’t give one hoot in hell what the American people think or want.

    That is my point and I agree.

94. #94
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:47 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Our operatives were everywhere. I can neither confirm nor deny whether Chappy was “identified and observed.”

    One collects intelligence data and then decides when and how to act upon it.

    I never realized how much Chappy resembled Burl Ives, though Chappy is not quite so dashing…

95. #95
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:51 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Elections have consequences, and the Marxist Party has a filibuster proof margin in the Senate, almost 50 seat majority in the House, and a President who has been groomed to be a communist agent since childhood.

    The last check/balance is a Supreme Court that is currently aligned 4 Marxists and 4 Constitutionalists, with 1 wild card with no clear judicial philosophy.

    If Pelosi’s Marxist Medicine Bill, with clear language demanding every American pay at least $12 per year to help murder unborn babies is defeated, it is because of the faux moderates, the House Blue Dogs, who have to hide their affiliation to communism because they represent districts that don’t have a hard core Marxist majority.

    The Senate is trickier, 2/3rds have 4 or more years before facing the voters, and an ex-Senator has a better chance of landing a cushie J Street lobbying job after the 1 year no-lobbying period, and probably at higher pay.

    Pelosi and the House leadership are all from safely Marxist districts. The worst that can happen to San Fran Nan is losing the speaker’s gavel. She’ll have her House seat until she dies or retires.

96. #96
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:55 pm, chapoutier said:

    Woah…7 killed 12 wounded at Fort Hood.

97. #97
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:57 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Low on details- 7 dead, about 20 wounded at Fort Hood.

    No word on whether it is a soldier, civilian or a terrorist in custody.

98. #98
    On November 5th, 2009 at 3:58 pm, sonofdy said:

    The sports dome. I used to go there all the time.

99. #99
    On November 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    Unofficially, multiple shooters, which suggests Musselmen.

    Although it is early, and there may not be multiple shooters, and Columbine was two whack jobs.

    But early signs- The Religion of Peace.

100. #100
     On November 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pm, sonofdy said:

     That slaming sound you hear is every us military base in the world being locked down and searched.

     I personaly know 4 people there right now. They would be in that area because they are training up for afghanistan.

     Left my contact list at home damn it.