Why do we have to read British papers to get Ft. Hood jihadist news?!

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 8, 2009 01:38 AM

The London Telegraph has the bombshell report on Ft. Hood jihadist Nidal Hassan’s ties to the September 11 terrorists.

Read and re-read here for the full investigative piece.

Allahpundit has a full round-up and commentary on the Telegraph’s revelations here.

Question: Why is it that we have to read British papers to get the unvarnished truths about the Ft. Hood Muslim mass murderer?

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Asra Nomani reports on “Hasan’s hidden militancy.” Well, it wasn’t that hidden:

The alleged Fort Hood gunman had revealed a hard-line Islamist streak to acquaintances in the Muslim Community Center that he made his mosque. The Daily Beast’s Asra Q. Nomani reports.

Not long ago, inside the quiet library of the Muslim Community Center here in Silver Spring, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, D.C., Golam Akhter, a local Bangladeshi-American civil engineer, 67, got into a fierce debate with a young Muslim doctor over how to interpret the concept of “jihad” within Islam. Akhter argued, “Jihad means an inner struggle, fighting against corruption and injustice.”

The young doctor responded. “That’s not a correct interpretation. Jihad means holy war. When your religion isn’t safe, you have to fight for it. If someone attacks you, you must fight them. That is jihad. You can kill someone who is harming you.”

Doug Giles says “We need an ask and tell policy for jihadists in the military.”

Yes, yes we do.

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  1. #1
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:48 am, MarcoPolo said:

    In Michigan, the local stations won’t even mention his name.

  2. #2
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:52 am, Bhishma said:

    Why do we have to read British papers to get Ft. Hood jihadist news?!

    .. because in USA, stupid media feeds treason to ignorant public.

  3. #3
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:59 am, Freddy said:

    Anyone want to bet the Sunday morning tv ‘experts’ will all simultaneously FAIL to mention any of this?

  4. #4
    On November 8th, 2009 at 2:19 am, procopy said:

    “admit the immigrant to full equality with native-born. In return demand undivided allegiance to the 1 flag which floats over all of us.”

  5. #5
    On November 8th, 2009 at 2:24 am, regularguy said:

    We have to come to this website and others like it to gather lots of news that the MSM fails to report or is behind the curve for the same reasons: investigative journalism is almost nonexistent. Breitbart had to expose ACORN, for example. THAT story could have been done over a year ago. Political correctness is surely killing people in the military. Almost certainly, some mathematician in the Pentagon calculated how many more American deaths would have to happen because of stricter ROE’s in Iraq and Afghanistan that would have a lighter touch on the landscape and not offend Muslims and squeamish leftists. The same political correctness also degrades our will to defend our civilization. We have much to be loud and proud about regarding western civilization, as well. Meanwhile, jihadists wage a war against us that liberal quislings won’t even admit exists and we have to read foreign newspapers to discover this POS was cozy with radical mosques and imams. How many thousands of innocents, including Muslims, will have to die before we very publicly push aside the quislings and start waging a real idealogical and bloody war against both the leftists and jihadists who would kill us one way or another? We must loudly defend our way of life as clearly superior to that of the Muslim fanatics and leftist dolts that multicultural lunatics so adore, because our way of life IS better. It’s also apparently necessary, to not only convince the rest of the world of this truth, but affirm to ourselves the same. That said, heads should roll in and out of the military if political correctness is found to be behind retaining this POS (and I highly suspect this is true). This kind of atrocity should never have had to happen in this post-9/11 Army.

  6. #6
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:05 am, GraniteMan said:

    Racism is taking a new face. The stereotype is the southern redneck with a pickup truck, rebel flag, sitting at a gas station making racial remarks. Meet the new stereotype——A Silent Press. Clark Kent, Lois Lane where are you?

  7. #7
    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:21 am, docjohn52 said:

    Michelle,
    We’re asking all of our bloggers to call it “The terrorist attack on fort Hood” or “the Terrorist Hasan”
    Give us your drift if you get time, but this has to be called terrorism, no matter how much conclusion the WH thinks we’re jumping.
    Thanx

  8. #8
    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:35 am, RobM1981 said:

    We have to read British papers for a basic reason: European “tolerance” is very different than what liberals believe it is.

    If you spend any time in Europe and pay attention to the media even in passing, you will see and learn things that are simply denied by ignorant US liberals. Such as:

    Ask a European about “issues between blacks and whites” and he’ll look at you like you have 3 heads. Europeans don’t view themselves as “white;” they view themselves as Germans, Italians, Greeks, Frenchmen, etc. Only Americans are ignorant enough to homogenize and categorize by skin color.

    And while you will absolutely see homosexuals openly holding hands and such, you will also see them comically portrayed in TV ads.

    “Tolerance” in Europe means what the Dictionary, and Martin Luther King Jr., meant: I don’t have to condone you, or enable you, or elevate you, or even respect you. I simply have to tolerate you. No violence. No discrimination.

    Peaceful co-existence.

    Not that Europeans don’t have “ist” issues – they do. Primarily with Muslims, which goes back almost 1,000 years at this point.

    One other thing that Europeans have: a press that is openly biased either liberal or conservative (depending upon the outlet). It might spin the facts, but unlike the USA is prides itself on at least reporting them.

    The USA has devolved into a morass of Political Correctness, forced “respect” via hate laws and such, and a liberal press that is fast becoming more South American Banana Republic than European Liberal.

  9. #9
    On November 8th, 2009 at 7:12 am, jimyai said:

    I also read in a Brit paper last night that the Muslim Major was on Obambi’s Homeland Security transition team. At the time that homeland Security was devising a policy that condemned Anti-abortion bumper stickers, second amendment supporters etc. This stealth jihadist was helping to make policy for securing our country.
    A good reason that the first words out of Obama’s mouth were “let’s not jump to any conclusions here”

  10. #10
    On November 8th, 2009 at 7:33 am, Lindsay said:

    At least there is real reporting on news from the UK. Thank you. Amazing.

  11. #11
    On November 8th, 2009 at 7:47 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Dead and wounded Americans must be a small price to pay for Political Correctness, Tolerance and Diversity I guess. All the signs were there and yet no one either dared or was permitted to act. The Muslim Major was NOT the first post 9/11 attack, the biggest, there have been others: Salt Lake City Mall, El Al Airlines in Los Angeles, the Honor Killings but with kid gloves these people need to be treated.
    No ““let’s not jump to any conclusions here” as the Major was from the Religion of Peace.

    God Bless the Victims and their families and DAMN the enablers. The Turk is at the Gates of Vienna.

  12. #12
    On November 8th, 2009 at 7:48 am, vinny said:

    I read the Telegraph article and aside from the details Michelle Malkin put up in her post, I thought it contained a lot of crap. There were lies from Hasan’s relatives and some unsubstantiated quotes of what his acquaintances might have said. This terrorist’s story still has a lot of holes:

    Were there complaints about him expressing Islamist views?

    How was he disciplined for proselytizing to psychiatric patients? In my view he should have lost his license for such abuse.

    Was he in touch with any terrorists? The spiritual leader of his mosque prior to 9/11 was such a person. Did he have contact with him afterwards?
    Where did he get the guns? I read that they were restricted to military and law enforcement. It seems odd for a psychiatrist to obtain such weapons and keep them at home.

    His family said that he was abused there. I seriously doubt that the army would allow any harassment to occur. It seems like the army bent over backwards to keep him in it, despite his abuse of his position with patients. His family also lied about his abhorrence of guns. It is now known that he took many classes in weapons use-unusual for a psychiatrist. The family stories are lies, and I wonder what else they know.

    His brother is in Jerusalem and it is very likely that he has the same outlook on life. Is his brother involved with terrorist groups?

    The general at Fort Hood has a history of being an apologist to muslims. He forced a soldier to kiss korans. What was this general’s role in creating a climate where concerns about this jihad sympathizer were suppressed?

  13. #13
    On November 8th, 2009 at 8:25 am, Doug Powers said:

    As usual, much of the American press is taking Obama’s “Wait jump to conclusions” statement as an order to stay away from the actual conclusions.

  14. #14
    On November 8th, 2009 at 8:34 am, Milwaukee Mike said:

    This is taken from http://www.americandigest.org/ and is the work of Jerry Pournelle http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/2009/Q4/view595.html#Friday

    Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

    Jerry Pournelle looks at the traitor who killed 13 soldiers at Fort Hood:

    I would presume that arming oneself and shooting 43 US soldiers is (1) levying war against the United States, and (2) an overt act, and that Major Hassan should be charged with treason.

    Political correctness was the cause of the Fort Hood Massacre, and we ought not forget that. The fact that someone could go through — at government expense — an undergraduate education with ROTC, then medical school at a US military institution, and remain a traitor to the United States is a significant warning. A very significant warning that the idea of Political Correctness has consequences we can’t afford. Corruption of the Legions is one danger the Republic cannot endure.

    The Legions remain faithful; but for how long when their officers are no longer faithful? Hassan had been through ROTC and a US armed forces medical school as a commissioned officer. Why was his failure of loyalty to the armed forces not detected earlier? But of course he was a Muslim, and it would not be politically correct to wash someone out of an armed forces medical school for lack of loyalty to the armed forces of these United States.

    We sow the wind. We have reaped one whirlwind.

    The politically correct spin is coming like a tidal wave. He is a crazy guy who happens to be a Muslim. All of that misses the point: he was disloyal to the United States, and said so openly and many times; yet he remained a commissioned officer of the United States. That is the point that is being overlooked. Whether the disloyalty is due to a psychotic episode or some other cause is not important.

  15. #15
    On November 8th, 2009 at 8:39 am, jsr said:

    A local station here did a piece last night focused on two soldiers from Georgia wounded in the rampage. Incredibly, the anchorette blathered on at some point about the completely unknown motives of the killer and how everybody is trying to comprehend how a soldier could do something like this to fellow soldiers (no mention whatsoever of his religion). I rarely watch local or MSM news and forgot how mindless it can be but seeing this level of politically correct cluelessness reminds me why I gave it up in the first place. It is like having your brain sucked out of your skull and being replaced by some pre-programmed mush filled with liberal drivel.

  16. #16
    On November 8th, 2009 at 8:40 am, Bogtrotter said:

    But….but…but, the British press is wrong. Any mouthpiece for the MSM here knows (and will tell you again & again) that it was due to PTSD, being harressed because he was a follower of the religion of peace, and because of the war…..which makes it Bush’s fault.

  17. #17
    On November 8th, 2009 at 8:55 am, vcferlita said:

    In the years following 9/11 and when the Iraq war started I got better info from the BBC America channel than alot of the other cable news shows at the time.

  18. #18
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:05 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    jsr said:
    the anchorette blathered on at some point about the completely unknown motives of the killer and how everybody is trying to comprehend how a soldier could do something like this to fellow soldiers (no mention whatsoever of his religion).

    The anchorette needs to spend Two Years Behind the Veil herding goats-perhaps the anchorette will learn something by then.

    Allah Akbar anchorette.

  19. #19
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:10 am, USMCgramma said:

    I had no trouble jumping to the right conclusion – the evidence is overwhelming both pre- and post-9/11. My wish is that TV would show the planes flying into WTC every day. It may frighten the children, but not as much as their future scares us. It really happened – never forget.

  20. #20
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:24 am, happyscrapper said:

    I agree with Odumbo…we must not jump to conclusions. Only a moron would accuse someone of acting stupidly without having all the facts. Let’s sit back and wait for more information before we call this radical islamic terrorist a radical islamic terrorist. The only think we know right now is:
    1. He is a muslum
    2. He has expressed terrorist sentiments to friends.
    3. He gave away his belongings, thus proving premeditation.
    3. He yelled “God is Great” in arabic as he was shooting.
    4. He is a muslum
    How dare you people profile this poor, misguided man who just “snapped” because he was under a lot of pressure?
    /sarc. off

  21. #21
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:39 am, jangar said:

    Question: Why is it that we have to read British papers to get the unvarnished truths about the Ft. Hood Muslim mass murderer?

    Answer: The Brits have nothing to lose…they’ve already lost it all, and they’re trying to warn the US, from where they have always gotten their support. It’s always America, isn’t it?

  22. #22
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:40 am, Boomer said:

    Everything that I have seen so far leads me to believe this attack by the individual in question was a planed and premeditated act of terrorism and treason. He will meet a Courts Martial and he will be found guilty, but I seriously doubt the closet Muslim sitting in the White House will sign the death warrant he so richly deserves. How many more ticking time bombs of the moon god worshipping medieval savage are there about to go “Johnny Jihad” on their comrades hidden in our ranks?

    I have many questions for his chain of command and for other Commanders that for the sake of political correctness will put their troop’s lives at risk by sticking their heads in the sand or not standing up to their responsibilities to cast out those not fit for military duty.

  23. #23
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:41 am, zyzzyg said:

    ” . . . ask and tell policy . . . “

    Yep, and it should include the mentally unstable.

    There have been other incidents where people (and troops) have went off the deep end. There would be a benefit to weeding out anyone who is on the edge, for what ever their reason and/or motive.

  24. #24
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:53 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Can we weed out mentally unstable trolls?

  25. #25
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:53 am, jangar said:

    zyzzyg said:
    ” . . . ask and tell policy . . . “

    Yep, and it should include the mentally unstable.

    It does. But in a pc world, post-sanity Obama world, reality goes out the window.

  26. #26
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:57 am, happyscrapper said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:41 am, zyzzyg said:
    ” . . . ask and tell policy . . . “

    Yep, and it should include the mentally unstable.

    There have been other incidents where people (and troops) have went gone off the deep end. There would be a benefit to weeding out anyone who is on the edge, for what ever their reason and/or motive.

    FIFY. By the way, I don’t generally correct grammatical errors, but in the case of a troll, I make an exception.

  27. #27
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:57 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Only Americans are ignorant enough to homogenize and categorize by skin color.

    Sorry, but I know some Italians (yes in Italy) who would disagree with you. They even speak the ‘N’ word in the most rolled way.
    This ignorant American was shocked to hear that coming from such refined Europeans.
    Come to think of it, a German I dated (yes, in Germany) wasn’t too tolerant either.)

    I’m tired of Americans being ‘dissed’.

  28. #28
    On November 8th, 2009 at 9:58 am, Speakup said:

    If Americans can understand and articulate their disdain for the fraud of ObamaCare then Americans can understand the cancer of political correctness and articulate the dismantling of the deadly culture liberals have forced on most of the world.

  29. #29
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:06 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Speakup said:

    If Americans can understand and articulate their disdain for the fraud of ObamaCare then Americans can understand the cancer of political correctness and articulate the dismantling of the deadly culture liberals have forced on most of the world.

    Great point. Political Correctness should be considered a limit to free speech and/or to one’s liberty in some way. Wonder how we can effectively limit PC using laws etc??

  30. #30
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:08 am, coffee said:

    Why?

    Because the U.S. has nurtured several generations of arrogant but non-critical thinkers, a deadly combination. We smugly march toward the cliff of our own destruction totally incapable of seeing the edge. Want an example? We offer radical Islam our way of life smugly believing that will change their minds, all the while we fail to see that our lifestyle is the very reason why they want to eradicate us.

  31. #31
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:10 am, GladzKravtz said:

    zyzzyg said:

    So this guy was a mentally unstable Islamic extremist terrorist. Ok, now?

  32. #32
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:14 am, DBNinKY said:

    Seems ironic that the American press-media, which have long held themselves as the guardians of free-speech and expression, have unwittingly given up that charge in their zeal to push political correctness. They have muted themselves and do not realize it.

  33. #33
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:15 am, jangar said:

    I’ve seen many asking if 2012 is doomsday. Well, it will be if Obama is re-elected.

  34. #34
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:17 am, DogBreath said:

    Nothing to see here. Just another “moderate Muslim”. Move along now.

  35. #35
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:18 am, iamsaved said:

    America has always accepted immigrants who want to assimilate and become Americans. Because of the stated goals and objectives of recent waves of Islamic jihadists to this country, it is time we “dis-invited” them and sent them back to where they came from.

    This kumbyyaa, can’t we all get along attitude, no matter how bent one is on destroying this nation and its culture, has to stop.

    To sit idly by because it isn’t “politically correct”, is dooming this nation to obscurity. If we do nothing, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

    All Muslims are not terrorists. But I would hold that over the past 10 or so years, all terrorists are Muslim. When the radicals speak out, that’s when they need to be sent home. They’ve over-stayed their welcome.

    I believe the UK and France are seeing the errors of their ways.

  36. #36
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:36 am, DBNinKY said:

    Whoa – this from just the first two lines of the Telegraph article!

    Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother’s funeral was held there in May that year.

    The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.

    This article needs to be read by every member of the US “press.”

  37. #37
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:41 am, RobM1981 said:

    All Muslims are not terrorists. They are heretics but, as a Christian, I can live with that.

    The issue is that apparently hundreds of thousands (millions?) of THEM won’t “tolerate” me.

    I’m cool with them going back to their native lands. Hell, I’ll even foot the bill. THAT’S a tax I’m more than willing to pay.

  38. #38
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:42 am, Roland said:

    The Big Mistake the West has made with regard to Islam is in seeing it as only a ‘religion.’

    It is much more than a religion. It is a political ideology.

    That political ideology is grossly incompatible with western ideals. It is completely contrary to the American Constitution.

    Christians, even fundamentalists, can serve God through protection of the American Constitution (see Romans 13, for instance). So a good Christian can see himself as owing a loyalty to God to serve the Constitution ahead of whatever anyone in the Church tells him or whatever else the bible seems to say.

    Fundamentalist Muslims cannot do that.

    Can a any ‘Muslim’ do it? Sure. If he’s not really a Muslim. If he is just a ‘cultural’ Muslim.

    Cultural Muslims who want to stay in America should have to give up Islam. They know just as well as I do that it is not just a religion.

    If they want to make a new cultural ‘religion’ to go with their cultural inclinations, and call it something besides Islam, that would be dandy.

    But Islam does not belong here, nor in anyplace in the Western World.

    Tolerating Islam is like tolerating rabies.

  39. #39
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:47 am, bjc said:

    *Props to Sen. Lieberman for calling this an act of domestic islamic terrorism, as enough info has already come out to see it as so; As I have been saying, this is the first successful islamic terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11, under the not so watchful eye of P-BO and Napalitano, and there will be more.
    *This just reinforces the reality that Political Correctness is continuing to get Americans killed here and abroad; It must stop; We are dealing with a 7th century invented religion of death cult savages intent on killing or converting us; Let us please get our collective heads out of our rectal orafices and deal with the problem head on!

  40. #40
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:53 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    The British are just as PC in failing to address their own jihadist problems but are probably a little indignant at Americans (like me) who have been known to refer to London as Londonistan.

    They are not inclined to ignore an opportunity to rub our noses in our very blatant hypocrisy… especially when we deserve it.

  41. #41
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:55 am, zyzzyg said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal, jangar, happyscrapper and GladzKravtz

    I am glad that each of you agree that the mentally unstable should be weeded out of the military. Ummmm, don’t you?

    Moreover, when I said “Yep, and it should include . . .” means that I agree with ” . . . ask and tell policy . . . “ Ummmm, you do realize this, don’t you?

    People who have animus and are willing to act violently toward any organization should be weeded out.

    I don’t give a flying fig what an individual says their reason is, or what motive is assigned by others, the situation must me dealt with.

    I prefer not to see any individual kill their co-workers, troops, their families, strangers and even pets, for any reason or excuse. There is no justification.

  42. #42
    On November 8th, 2009 at 11:00 am, Speakup said:

    Wonder how we can effectively limit PC using laws etc??

    Take verbal offense out of the game, sport, court, business categories.

    Get politics out of schools and get the money out political correctness.

  43. #43
    On November 8th, 2009 at 11:08 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Quote from the article linked:

    “He is working with psychiatric people and I ask why the people around him didn’t spot that something was wrong? When I heard what had happened I actually wasn’t that surprised.”

    As more and more quotes from people who knew Hasan personally surface, it is becoming more and more obvious that, as was true with the 9/11 attacks, the gatekeepers were asleep again.

    We are too quick to surrender our freedoms believing it to be necessary for our safety. We can handle the threat if we could just learn to be more responsible and competent (and less PC wouldn’t hurt either).

  44. #44
    On November 8th, 2009 at 11:33 am, Dan Maloney said:

    Hey, at least someone is reporting it and I am proud that it is my cousin.

  45. #45
    On November 8th, 2009 at 12:09 pm, corkie said:

    I am glad that each of you agree that the mentally unstable should be weeded out of the military.

    This would be relevant IF Nidal’s was a case of mental instability. However, it doesn’t appear that it was.

  46. #46
    On November 8th, 2009 at 12:17 pm, pueblo1032 said:

    Sad, but true… The best info I have seen yet on this story has come from overseas… Of course O-BOZO has already asked that we not jump to conclusions… I haven’t, it was TERRORISM plain and simple, no jump there… As far as ISLAM, to me this “RELIGION” is more like what the boys in KIPLING’S “GUNGA DIN” fought, a CULT… It has CULT like followers, CULT like tendencies, and CULT like loyalty of it’s practitioners… Until the NATION OF ISLAM decides to take back their “HI-JACKED” religion, it will remain a CULT to me… Remember, there are many RELIGIONS in the world, but only one RELIGION OF PEACE!!!

  47. #47
    On November 8th, 2009 at 12:22 pm, BuckeyeSam said:

    Dems and Obama deify FDR.

    What’s their position on internment camps?

  48. #48
    On November 8th, 2009 at 12:43 pm, prendad said:

    Well, well, well, the FIRST TIME that an openly MUSLIM serving in our armed forces SHOOTS AND KILLS everyone in his sight. A MUSLIM MURDERER in our military. How does it feel to be the FIRST PRESIDENT to have this happen on his watch? How does it feel, Obama? Are you happy with your new “touchy-feely” Army? How do you sleep at night, Jughead?

  49. #49
    On November 8th, 2009 at 12:55 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    If it LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, WALKS LIKE A DUCK, QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, AND POOPS LIKE A DUCK–IT’S A DUCK!! Or a Muslim Jihadi traitor on a mission for Allah.
    ***
    No need for any political correctness, psychobabble, or rehabilitation for this cold blooded murderer.
    ***
    Give him his “day in court” and one appeal. If he is found guilty–apply the tried and true Texas LONG DROP WITH A SHORT ROPE and send him to meet his 72 virgins.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  50. #50
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:01 pm, txvet2 said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 8:25 am, Doug Powers said:

    Much the same way as the press continuing to refer to this traitor as a “suspected” criminal. As if the eyewitnesses who survived aren’t quite sure.

  51. #51
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:03 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    For the same reason when some kind of Islamic thing happens in the UK they have to read our news sources to learn about it.

  52. #52
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:04 pm, txvet2 said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:41 am, RobM1981 said:

    The issue is that apparently hundreds of thousands (millions?) of THEM won’t “tolerate” me.

    I have the same problem with leftists of any stripe or claimed religion. Their insistence on tolerance only includes us tolerating them – not the reverse.

  53. #53
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Can we weed out mentally unstable trolls?

    We can’t keep them out of Congress either…

  54. #54
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:06 pm, JamieD said:

    We can’t keep them out of Congress either…

    +1

  55. #55
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, sbw999 said:

    Question: Why is it that we have to read British papers to get the unvarnished truths about the Ft. Hood Muslim mass murderer?

    Rhetorical question of the day.

    Our American media; cant spell it without dem.

  56. #56
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:16 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:05 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Can we weed out mentally unstable trolls?

    We can’t keep them out of Congress either…

    Should I :) or :cry: – I do not know. Maybe H1N1 will hit the Beltway hard and thin the swine herd?

  57. #57
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Maybe H1N1 will hit the Beltway hard and thin the swine herd?

    No, they have their own deluxe health plan, and first access to the vaccine. Well ok not first, they have to wait in line behind the Obamas, the Gitmo-ites and Bill Ayers, but those swine are covered.

  58. #58
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm, prendad said:

    Question: Why is it that we have to read British papers to get the unvarnished truths about the Ft. Hood Muslim mass murderer?

    Answer: Because our butt-kissing press/media cannot report anything without getting the Obama stamp of approval first.

  59. #59
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:32 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I hope the comatose paralyzed “Major” has stuck in what’s left of his brain the thought that it was a woman – unveiled – who shot him up.

  60. #60
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pm, prendad said:

    Oh, and by the way Mr. Prezident, I’m still waiting for you to answer all 14 of my letters. Oh, I guess your staff is so busy cramming healthcare down the country’s throat that they can’t press that little button that automatically prints out a reply.

  61. #61
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:35 pm, bjc said:

    *When it comes to the Minor League Media, Academia, and liberals in general across the country, their intent is to go from tolerance to acceptance, whether it be homosexuality, the “peaceful & tolerant” religion of Islam, abortion, you name it; Please don’t doubt this; Pay attention and be ready to take up the cause.

  62. #62
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:38 pm, prendad said:

    I would like to know how a “Major” who is 39 years old, and who, according to his relatives, “joined up right out of school”, is still in the Army. Could it be something to do with his Muslim religion? I would sure like to review HIS service record and see how many times his mouth has gotten him into trouble before this.

  63. #63
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:50 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    And from our esteemed-but not by me-Homeland Security Secretary Janet Nappy Napolitano:
    Homeland chief warns against anti-Muslim backlash

    (AP) – 8 hours ago
    ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates — The U.S. Homeland Security secretary says she is working to prevent a possible wave of anti-Muslim sentiment after the shootings at Fort Hood in Texas.

    Janet Napolitano says her agency is working with groups across the United States to try to deflect any backlash against American Muslims following Thursday’s rampage by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim who reportedly expressed growing dismay over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. end

    Ignoring this warning will result in a visit by Nappy’s personal security services-Dikes on Bikes. I can think of few things uglier than Dikes on Bikes or anywhere else for that matter.

  64. #64
    On November 8th, 2009 at 1:59 pm, tuffy said:

    What not to say to people in mourning:

    “What happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even-greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here,” he said.

    According to General Casey, the possibility of damaging an idea is much worse than multiple murders. All politics aside, please refrain from emotionally fragging the survivors, their loved ones and the loved ones of the fallen. It’s inappropriate.

    Perhaps the U.S. media also fears damaging an idea so we turn to the U.K.

  65. #65
    On November 8th, 2009 at 2:42 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:35 am, RobM1981 said:

    We have to read British papers for a basic reason: European “tolerance” is very different than what liberals believe it is.

    If you spend any time in Europe and pay attention to the media even in passing, you will see and learn things that are simply denied by ignorant US liberals. Such as: Only Americans are ignorant enough to homogenize and categorize by skin color.

    That is indeed really stupid. It sounds like somebody hasn’t actually traveled out of the United States.

  66. #66
    On November 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pm, John Deaux said:

    Why do we have to read British papers to get Ft. Hood jihadist news?!

    Because we’ve already lost. It’s just that some of us haven’t given in yet.

  67. #67
    On November 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pm, joannmandolin said:

    Dilemma for Janet Napolitano:

    She’s got her military domestic terrorist, all right.

    Oh, he’s an Islamic extremist, with all the protections afforded a terrorist.

    What to do………..

  68. #68
    On November 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pm, robhic said:

    Homeland chief warns against anti-Muslim backlash

    Hey Janet: Why not take a flying leap? GTFO you incompetent cow. (No disrespect meant to any cows…)

    How did the greatest country in the world get to this sad point?

  69. #69
    On November 8th, 2009 at 3:29 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    WTF?“What not to say to people in mourning”: His IS cold; General Casey needs to deployed to a post without media access.

    Or the reporter who will ask a grieving survivor: “How does it feel having your loved ones murdered”. (Correct answer: your family is about to find out.)
    No disrespect meant to any cows ;)

  70. #70
    On November 8th, 2009 at 3:30 pm, jangar said:

    How did the greatest country in the world get to this sad point?

    Too many spoiled rotten citizens.

  71. #71
    On November 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm, jangar said:

    Dilemma for Janet Napolitano:

    She’s got her military domestic terrorist, all right.

    Oh, he’s an Islamic extremist, with all the protections afforded a terrorist.

    What to do………..

    Her out clause will be ptsd, or guns, or military, or Bush…

  72. #72
    On November 8th, 2009 at 4:41 pm, vinny said:

    How did the greatest country in the world get to this sad point in time?

    Baby boomers. They have trampled over every one else, and when they need help in ripe old age, they should start praying.

  73. #73
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:04 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    Anymore, our newspapers are starting to read more like Pravda, than anything else. You get their spin, not truth. What about the TV newswoman who opined “I wish his last name were Smith”. Why? What have we come to in this country?

  74. #74
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, vinny said:

    Gen Casey said that it would be a great tragedy if this affects our diversity. I guess it is no great tragedy, that we are no longer able to speak freely. F— him and his pc mentality. Ignorant and arrogant- how in the hell did he achieve his rank?

  75. #75
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:13 pm, jangar said:

    I guess when we get right down to the nut of it, there are only 2 types of people who will continue to fight against radical Islamic jihad:

    1 – United States Armed Forces

    2 – Americans on the Home Front

    We’ve lost DC and the media…they have joined the other side.

  76. #76
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:17 pm, jangar said:

    diversity

    There’s a word that needs to be printed on practice targets.

  77. #77
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, vinny said:

    Jangar,
    With us or against us! How strange that when I think of who is the American president, Bush comes to mind. Lord knows he had his faults, but there was never any doubt that he was our president. I miss him.

  78. #78
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:35 pm, jangar said:

    Diversity is pc for muddying the waters and corrupting the system.

  79. #79
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:47 pm, JHSII said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 12:22 pm, BuckeyeSam said:

    Dems and Obama deify FDR.

    What’s their position on internment camps?

    Only for Conservatives. :evil:

  80. #80
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:50 pm, JHSII said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, vinny said:

    Gen Casey said that it would be a great tragedy if this affects our diversity. I guess it is no great tragedy, that we are no longer able to speak freely. F— him and his pc mentality. Ignorant and arrogant- how in the hell did he achieve his rank?

    Politics.

    Of course I would court-martial Casey for that incredibly stupid remark.

  81. #81
    On November 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pm, ssnark said:

    A little off topic,but I hope that someone who can contact President George W. Bush and the First Lady, Laura Bush and thank them for me for their visit with the wounded at Ft. Hood the other day. It meant a lot to them and especially to a young man with an USAR medical unit whose personnel took the brunt of the casualties.

    Mr. President, you and your wife came there without fanfare or a press retinue and were there for the men and women of that tragic attack just as you have been there far more than any other President I’ve served under or know of. You did the same for those who fought under your command in Afghanistan and Iraq. You have earned my respect and undying gratitude for what to you probably seems like a small gesture.
    I remain forever yours to command.

    A retired US Soldier.

  82. #82
    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:02 pm, ssnark said:

    Sorry, I broke down while writing the above and forgot to mention that I hope someone who can contact President Bush and his wife Laura Bush reads the above to deliver my heartfelt thanks. It was something every Soldier there at Ft. Hood that I ran into from the USAR unit remarked upon.

  83. #83
    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:05 pm, TimothyJ said:

    Isn’t it sad that the dimmunitive english are the ones to point this out. They have already lost their country to muslims, and are getting ready for shiria law. Too bad that this once great people have become so used to this stuff.

  84. #84
    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:24 pm, Lockstein13 said:
  85. #85
    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:27 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    What does seem clear is that the army missed an increasing number of red flags that Hasan was a troubled and brooding individual within its ranks.

    The understatement of the year.

  86. #86
    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pm, BOB said:

    From Obama’s radio address Saturday:

    He praised those who ended the shootings, which killed 13 and wounded 30 others, and lauded the armed services’ diversity – a move designed to calm tensions about the suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.

    “They are Americans of every race, faith and station. They are Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus and nonbelievers,” Obama said in his radio and Internet address Saturday, airing the weekend before Veterans Day.

    “They are descendants of immigrants and immigrants themselves. They reflect the diversity that makes this America. But what they share is a patriotism like no other.

    Obama himself seems to have a patriotism like no other U.S. president.

  87. #87
    On November 8th, 2009 at 7:12 pm, ssnark said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pm, BOB said:

    Obama himself seems to have a patriotism like no other U.S. president.

    I hope that was stated with tongue in cheek sarcastic humor.

    Contrast Mr. Obama’s speechifying and media blitz with what President George W. Bush and Mrs. Bush did on Friday. They went to Ft. Hood and visited the victims of this terror attack giving support, condolences and whatever else they thought might be needed to the Soldiers there. It made a very positive impression on one young Soldier I know of. President Bush did not bring a press retinue and the visit was very low key, he was there for them and not for himself was clear from everything he did. His wife was charming and gracious they were as the young Soldier put it, “A class act.” Compare and contrast with the man who currently holds President Bush’s former job. He only went to Dover AFB last week with a goodly chunk of the White House press corps to make sure they saw him do it and his whole theater production.
    It says a lot about character doesn’t it?

  88. #88
    On November 8th, 2009 at 7:29 pm, JamieD said:

    It says a lot about character doesn’t it?

    Quite Distinctly.

    Character says it all!

  89. #89
    On November 8th, 2009 at 8:45 pm, NeoFan said:

    Some are now suggesting that our soldiers be allowed to carry guns on base. Have you ever heard of such a ludicrous idea to let soldiers carry guns and defend their base, country, citizens, and themselves? If any of those soldiers would have had a gun then the perp would have had an almost endless supply of guns and ammo and would still be killing thousands today. Some People! The soldiers should only be allowed to carry guns and ammo in other countries and then should only be able to shoot them after they call back to washington to get permission after they have been under attack for an extended period of time.

  90. #90
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:09 pm, Mister P said:

    I want to know the terrorists connection to the CAIR mafia.

  91. #91
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:15 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Our government hard at work protecting jihadists!

    This is rich. A Muslim lunatic murders more than a dozen US soldiers and wounds scores and our DHS is worried about a backlash against Muslims.

    If the stupid witch had been doing her job maybe she would have noticed that this radical Muslim was plotting against America before he unleashed mayhem on our shore!

    When will the idiot leftists realize that we are not the enemy! Maybe they should change the name of the department to “Department of Terrorist Protection.” Janet Napolitano needs to find another line of work…

    Homeland chief warns against anti-Muslim backlash

    (AP) – 12 hours ago

    ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates — The U.S. Homeland Security secretary says she is working to prevent a possible wave of anti-Muslim sentiment after the shootings at Fort Hood in Texas.

    Janet Napolitano says her agency is working with groups across the United States to try to deflect any backlash against American Muslims following Thursday’s rampage by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim who reportedly expressed growing dismay over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The shootings left 13 people dead and 29 wounded.

    Napolitano was in the United Arab Emirates on Sunday for talks with security officials and a meeting with women university students in Abu Dhabi.

  92. #92
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:23 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    General Casey must be a tool of epic proportions!

    Ask a Bosnian or Rwandan how they feel about “diversity.” These people are beyond insane if they really believe this crap.

  93. #93
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:26 pm, RetFireman said:

    Question: Why is it that we have to read British papers to get the unvarnished truths about the Ft. Hood Muslim mass murderer?

    Why? Because in the age of Democrat/Liberal rule, in the Age of Obama, there is no such thing as a “Terrorist Threat”, there are only a few “Muslim Extremists” who are best dealt with by incompetent law enforcement that does nothing due to their shackles made of PC policies and procedures. They have stated time and again that there is no terrorist Threat against this country and her people, that those that are attacking innocent civilians; men, women and children who have done nothing wrong except to live and work and grow in this country becoming who have been targeted, have been so all because of Presidents Bush Sr. and Jr., the first for placing American Airbases in alleged Muslim Holy Lands after gaining permission and the latter for retaliating against the non-existent people who he invented as a way to get free oil.

    Because even after everything that has come out about this “Follower of the Moon God”, they are still saying he only did this because of President Bush and “his” war, for being made to fulfill his obligations as a career military officer, and blaming te fact that he was an Islamic interpreter for having simply, “snapped his cap”.

    Because these people who are now running this country are fools, they are using these attacks to do everything they have accused President Bush of doing…to further their agenda, to weaken our nation and to keep power, which is the only thing they understand…power and oppression.

    Until such time as the people of this country stops sitting around their drum circles and passing the hookah, realizing that not only were the Sixties and terrible, violent, drug-fueled MISTAKE and has passed into the trash-bin of history, and that the ideas and ideals that they came up with during acid-induced drug trips can do nothing but open this nation up to its own demise in a violent and blood-drenched future, they will continue to lie and place their heads in the sand.

    Until the people of this country learns to think for themselves, get information and become informed instead of getting their information and opinions from bumper-sticker slogans, 10 second sound bytes, and uneducated, uninformed, conspiracy-laden, hate-filled, bigoted, racist Liberal blogs, they will be doing nothing else but dooming themselves, and allowing those who have sworn to murder every last one of us and have the Islamic flag flown from both the White House and the Capital attain their goals.

  94. #94
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm, JamieD said:

    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:26 pm, RetFireman said:

    :grin: Next time tell us how you really feel.

    Seriously though, you have explained why we have to read the truth in news from the UK… WE HAVE FOOLS RUNNING THE COUNTRY!

  95. #95
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm, Tazed and Confused said:

    Hmmmm… Having a Muslim President wouldn’t have an effect on domestic investigative reporting would it?

    And what deep links might we uncover between Hassan and BHO… just another terrorist community organizer?

  96. #96
    On November 8th, 2009 at 10:51 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    JamieD,

    We would be better off if they were only fools. In fact they are committed to destroying the nation and our liberties. Would that they were only fools…

  97. #97
    On November 8th, 2009 at 11:01 pm, JamieD said:

    I would have to agree that if they all were only fools we would be better off. Most in charge at the moment are fools, but some are “wicked” (to put it lightly).

  98. #98
    On November 8th, 2009 at 11:04 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    JamieD,

    I fear we are now on “the list” at DHS. They must protect these poor practitioners of the “religion of peace” from folks like us…

  99. #99
    On November 8th, 2009 at 11:10 pm, JamieD said:

    :grin:

    Well then so be it. Someone has to speak the truth.

    I have never been in the UK, but the business contacts I have in the UK are very level headed and likable. I am thankful for many of the news stories that reveal information that is too PC for our liberal media.

  100. #100
    On November 8th, 2009 at 11:12 pm, cubbiegal said:

    If you’re interested in what truly moderate islam looks like check out this group.

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