The Fort Hood memorial: Livestream
The Fort Hood memorial is scheduled to begin at around 2pm Eastern. Here is embedded livestream video:
Read about the meaning of the Fallen Soldier Display — boots, helmet, inverted rifle — here.
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2:59pm Eastern. Obama is greeted with raucous and inappropriate cheers. He opens awkwardly, stumbles in his greetings of military leaders and dignitaries. Prompter wasn’t ready? He recovers, then gives profiles of the victims.
Here’s an advance transcript of the remarks.
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Make sure you have read Nidal Hasan’s entire slide presentation, “The Koranic World View As It Relates to Muslims in the Military.”
Here are four for your contemplation:
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“decrease adverse events”?
Does that mean reduce terror attacks from enemies within the ranks?
Political correctness is killing us…literally.
Oh, and please don’t jump to conclusions even though this man basically drew pictures of who he was and what his intentions were.
A very sad and scary time for America.
I’ll watch it until the thug in chief gets there and then it’s off….as a former military member he disgusts me….
I pray for the families…
So muslims should be allowed to opt out of fighting other muslims, he thinks.
What about Christians fighting other Christians?
I guess Hasan will have to continue visting the strip clubs if he’s ever released from prison since he didn’t become the martyr he was hoping to be. The 70 virgins will have to wait awhile.
But then again, with the way our justice system is going, thanks to folks like those at the ACLU, he may be out sooner than one thinks.
Here’s a good one to reflect on about the ACLU – ACLU Defends Identity Theft by Illegals
“Decrease adverse events” was his way of say “or else”..
Do what we say, or we will kill you..
It’s how mohammad established this cult of islam n he first place. Threats & intimidation.
I used to laugh at the silly little PC people who would get their knickers in a twist over any perceived slight. Now I mourn for the soldiers and their families who suffer the consequences of the inaction of those who fear being thought “mean” or “racist” or “islamophobes.” Will common sense ever return?
The obama circus strikes FT. Hood. How sad and so like obama. He refuses to attend the anniversary of the Berlin wall coming down and Democracy defeating Communism because the spot light would have to be shared. He will focus the spotlight on himself and turn a solemn and what should be a fairly private event for the families and survivors at Ft. Hood. The man is disgusting. President and Mrs Bush went Anonymously to Ft. Hood after the event. No cameras, no press, no spotlight! Just class.
No, just Man-made disasters to “avoid the Politics of Fear”. Only Americans flying the American flag and pro life bumper stickers are terrorist. PC and such.Will there be any Imans speaking at Fort Hood to rub salt into the wounds; any Husseins?
“until they pay the tax or start shooting back” AN book 1 verse 1
God Bless Our Sacred Dead and prepare for more. It is a good day to work at the reloading bench.
Can’t prove it by this poinyoin!
This memorial is a sham anyway. The only suitable memorial to me will be when all muslims are kicked out of our military, & someone is held accountable for allowing this to happen in the first place. Oh, & no more restrictions on who can carry a sidearm. What a $%#@ing joke!
Someone needs to take a count of how many times Obama refers to himself in his speech.
Just not me; I finished lunch a few minutes ago and don’t want to be sick. Our president is an embarrassment and disgrace.
Someone needs to take a count of how many times Obama refers to himself in his speech.
Gibbs said that Obama reads vorciferously. What he failed to say was he scans newpaper and magazine articles vorciferously looking for his name. Once he sees it, he stops and reads a bit to see if it criticism or adulation and then moves on.
Where did anyone get the idea Obama is cerebral? Anyone seen any scholarly works, master’s thesis, academic grades from his past endeavors? Using the MSM’s criteria, we’d have to allow that all used car salesmen and glib lawyers are cerebral.
Moslems in a Judeo-Christian nation:
Oil in water. It will mix for a moment, but will always separate before long.
(Yes, I used the un-PC, archaic Moslems intentionally.)
Why would someone volunteer for military service so that they could conscientiously object?
Not that Pee-Wee Herman-in-Chief would know the subtleties of that question…
To get a free education and a monthly paycheck.
THe most disturbing thing to me is the trendline. Given the events of the last 30 years, what’s it going to be like 30 years from now?!
The demographics are killing Europe. Low birthrate among Europeans coupled with the high birth and immigration rates of Muslims means a European Caliphate is just around the corner. They already have the Islamic Republic of France! England is next!
If the tide isn’t held back Western Civilization is doomed.
Ashamed to say it now, but confession is good for the soul, and I was young and stupid…..
I joined the Navy to avoid being sent to Nam. Not too many submarines shot down over Hanoi.
Not quite CO, but stupid in its own way.
Bill Bennett made a great point today in a column…
Remember “Tail Hook” and the year-long scandal and expensive, destructive investigation?
Wanna bet there will be anything like that here…????
My thought: this wasn’t a question of connecting dots. It was a matter of just reading the objective handwriting on the wall…scrawled in blood, and obvious for any fool to see.
Hey, you served your country in a time of war! You have nothing to be ashamed of! Except for the joining the Navy part.
ha ha.
~Dexter
SMSgt USAF (ret)
I simply can not watch this.
I want an independent board to review the ORB’s and OER’s of every officer that was not selected for promotion to Major by the promotion board that selected Major Hasan.
I want Hasan’s ORB and OER’s compared to those not selected.
I want to know if Major Hasan was promoted in a manner consistent with the standards or if he was promoted when he was not qualified as compared to other officers not selected.
I’ll bet my house he was promoted when he should not have been.
Who the *&^% is cheering for that closet muslim & his heretic wife? Must have been the scum mediia there..
Hey, now.
My dad and father-in-law are both Navy veterans.
If Obama wanted to honor the dead he would resign and slink off into oblivion. Instead he wants an opportunity to pimp and preen in front of the cameras. Leftists disgust me.
Why isn’t this the lead story?
And why is the picture of the piece-of-sh*t DC Sniper part of the lead story? Who gives a rat’s a** what he looks like?
Sorry, MM, this is an error in judgment.
There are many ways in which political correctness kills or injures. It can be a Muslim terrorist at Fort Hood. It can be excusing generation after generation of unwed welfare mothers. It can be the destruction of marriage to assuage the homosexual movement. It can the counterproductive black woman who produces nothing at work, but cannot be fired for fear of an EEO lawsuit. It can be an attack on Christianity while at the same time treating all other religions as part of a cultural education. The list goes on an on, but the bottomline is that destruction follows political correctness.
So was my dad. Still, nothing wrong with a little sibling rivalry.
Air Force rules, Navy drools!
Das Kapital
The Thoughts of Chairman Mao
The Life of Lenin
My Life by Fidel Castro
Che by Fidel Castro
Reminiscences of the Cuban Revolutionary War by Che Guevara
The Complete Works of Saul Alinsky
The Sermons of Reverend Wright
The Collected Works of Marx and Engels
The Selected Works of Lenin
…………..
Would it be too far improper if the folks at this memorial were to “BOO” barry hussien on his arrival? Is a memorial a bad place to make a statement or is it just understandable?
Please God, let someone have a pocketfull of rotten veggies or eggs when barry gets up to talk…..my first born son for a chocolate cream pie to barry’s snotty face!!!
I also will not watch this bho for this memory of murders of our Army and some who were not. This bho makes me ill beyond belief. God, please hold those killed in Your arms and comfort the families.
L
How ironic the memorials are with an M-16 or M-4, boots etc when no one can carry at least a side arm on post. Not everyone in the military needs to carry a side arm, but certainly firearms should be carried by far more people on a regular basis. Provide for more firearms training, if it’s about a fear of accidental deaths/injuries, but don’t leave our servicemen sitting ducks. somehow, I think they can handle the reponsibility, given that’s their JOB anyway.
Didn’t Pee Wee have snow-cone appointment in New Orleans or something today? How did he get here?
Yeah, I remember Tailhook. The Navy is still suffering aftershocks from it.
I’ve been to Command functions that make Tailhook look like a Baptist picnic.
Now, all the emphasis is on alcohol abuse. One “alcohol-related incident” is a career ender.
When Obama and the other leftists allow open Homosexuality into the military, it will be more PC to fellate the host at a party than drink a beer.
Sorry, I got carried away and failed to respect the solemnity of the topic at hand. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.
One of the victims was Lt Col Juanita L. Warman, Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner. She left Ft Lewis (Madigan Army Medical Center where I work) for Ft Hood the end of October. She is survived by her husband and two grown children. Just wanted everyone to know that our prayers here at Ft Lewis go out ot her family and the families of all the fallen and injured in this cowardly act of terrorism at Ft Hood.
Do you believe the CRAP CBS is putting on right now? Katie just said it was “mental problems” that caused this. I agree you have to be nuts to be a Muslim but they just can’t admit what happened. The truth died a long time ago on CBS.
Geez, I don’t think I can listen to Obama!
My fear is that Obama will turn this into a “Wellstone Memorial” minute and use the words I and me too many times to count….I truly hope I am wrong, but when he made his first akward comments about this tragedy he sure tried to make it all about him.
No, you moron! These troops died during a terrorist attack launched by a ruthless and intractable foe! We were attacked on our own soil! And you bear some responsibility! How dare you stand up there and prevaricate!
Cool reception for Obama, given the size of the crowd.
Obama just doesn’t pull this kind of thing off well at all. After all, it takes away from his efforts “to fundamentally transform” [read "destroy"] the country that members of our armed services fight valiantly to protect.
It’s pathetic to have an un-American president of the United States.
Did Gibbs really say Obama reads “vociferously”?
vociferous, blatant, boisterous, strident, clamorous
These adjectives mean conspicuously and usually offensively loud. Vociferous suggests a noisy outcry, as of vehement protest: vociferous complaints.
Blatant connotes coarse or vulgar noisiness: “Up rose a blatant Radical” (Walter Bagehot).
Boisterous implies unrestrained noise, tumult, and often rowdiness: boisterous youths.
Strident stresses offensive harshness, shrillness, or discordance: a legislator with a strident voice.
Something clamorous is both vociferous and sustained: a clamorous uproar.
Or did he say “voraciously”…???
And, War, I think the term is “primp and preen”…not “pimp and preen”…
although both could apply to THE ONE.
Yeah, Obama doesn’t fake sincerity very well…
I wish he have honored the dead and wounded and remained in Washington, DC.
The people who cheered and whistled when Obama was introduced should be ashamed of themselves; there is a time and a place for such displays, and a memorial service for our murdered soldiers is most emphatically not that place.
I knew I’d be glad I couldn’t watch this. See some of us learn.
God Bless you for your service, Hangfire.
I wish I could have done my service, but severe asthma kept me out. I know it shouldn’t bother me, but that hole in my resume still bothers me.
Well, thanks for asking but I said what I intended…
Perhaps because most of the people there understand that a memorial service isn’t the place for cheers and whistles – like Obama or not, this isn’t the proper venue for such displays. It’s a day to honor the fallen and offer consolation to the families.
This speech was not memorable. After all it wasn’t about him.
Amazing Grace – always gets to me….
she is doing a great job of singing.
I was unexpectedly impressed with O’s speech… no self references. Some stupid PC nonsense towards the end about “no-one could have forseen this tragedy.” Yet also stated the victims had “not escaped the horrors of war.” Admitting that jihad is an act of war? Must have been a slip…
Overall a B+
Methinks the deck was stacked in his favor.
May God bless those that have given their lives in service to our country and may God comfort the family and friends they left behind. I pray for them today.
God Bless the USA.
I feel bad, Obama is our president, and I DO love my country, but I just can’t watch him. He is muted until he is done on my TV.
I am not sure how many of you have been to a military funeral. Probably the most emotional part for me is when they start a unit role call and every soldier from that unit answers the call of their name with “present” then they call the name of the fallen with no answer. The call of the fallens name is repeated and again no answer. The name is called for a third time and yet once again no answer.
I see Khyris is the “East German” Judge here…
I personally couldn’t listen to Obama more than a few minutes.
This could have been prevented. This should have been prevented. More than a few officers had to turn a blind eye to Hasan’s rantings. More than a few are responsible for allowing this to happen. Commanders owe their troops better than this!
Agreed; beautifully and movingly sung.
I wish more people would sing the penultimate verse that John Newton penned:
The earth shall soon dissolve like snow,
The sun forbear to shine;
But God, who called me here below,
Will be forever mine.
Quite possible. I know that the memorial service here at Ft Lewis today for some of the fallen Stryker soldiers is closed to the public (Biden will be here and it will be covered by the press). Granted it may be closed to the public to avoid any type of public spectacle (remember this is up WA ST only about an hour south of wacky Liberal Seattle).
Truesoldier,
Thank you for your post. I now have tears. This horrible murders should be gotten to the bottom of and all who were invloved held accountable. Not today.
L
Amazing Grace may be the most wonderful hymn of all time.
Here is a brief story about the man who wrote the song.
Listen to a wonderful recording of it here.
The Air Force?! Puh-leeze.
Unless the PC types edit it. Some places have removed the line “Amazing grace, how sweet the sound / That saved a wretch like me” to “Amazing grace, how sweet the sound / That saved and set me free”…now that’s a disgrace.
On November 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pm, John Deaux said:
Obama is greeted with raucous and inappropriate cheers.
Methinks the deck was stacked in his favor.
whadya bet the crowd’s African-American component was of a significantly larger percentage than the general pop.
WarEagle82. Thanks for the link….sure brings a closer meaning to his words.
Perhaps he should look at those slides, or Hasan’s Facebook page, or …
On November 10th, 2009 at 2:54 pm, Hangfire said: When Obama and the other leftists allow open Homosexuality into the military, it will be more PC to fellate the host at a party than drink a beer.
…heh… and then “all hands on deck” will take on another meaning for sure!
I attended one particular church for a few years but eventually left in part because of their theology which led them to edit hymns according to PC trends. They also preferred a version of the Bible that was heavily edited from a PC perspective.
PC infects every aspect of life. And it is killing us just as certainly as it did those brave soldiers in Ft. Hood.
Many, many people should have foreseen this. The man quite literally advertised his intentions for several years!
More than one officer and commander bears responsibility for this because they saw the problem and ignored it.
Dereliction of duty gets soldiers killed and several officers failed to do their duty.
Perhaps not the most popular post here, but I disagree that the President seemed insincere. He was deeply respectful, and his message was appropriate and even inspiring. I was expecting to see or hear something that would annoy me, and found nothing.
I’ll get back to ripping Dear Leader a new one tomorrow. Today I thought he did well.
Have to agree with Swede today…
THE ONE had a good speech writer today….
There’s a lot of that happening these days. I hope you’ve since found a good church home, WarEagle.
Happily for me, our church’s membership vote to part ways with the larger denomination when it (the denomination) started the PC idiocy. Our church, an independent congregation since that time, is still growing, while the mainline denomination we left is struggling to keep the doors of many of its churches open.
http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=119078&article=6299223
At least a hopeful statement by an conservative (I assume)…
The transcript of Da One’s speech was pretty well-done except for the misspelling of “defuse.” I’d bet the spellchecker passed “diffuse” without anyone checking the meaning.
A zoomie is tagging a squid? Unless you were an Air Commando or a PJ, you just sent your officers out to fight, right?
ECS
Captain, Armor
United States Army (Ret.)
For the few minutes I watch or listened I didn’t see “sincerity.”
Also, he sure didn’t spend much time paying his last respects for each soldier killed. But at least it was better than his visit to Ground Zero during the campaign.
Take a look here about 7:55 into the video. That “toss” just doesn’t strike me as “sincere.”
eep! that should have been voted…
After saying this, Obama should have stayed home. There is none so blind as he who will not see.
Or to paraphrase a “great man,” we may not know all the facts but we know what we know and the President acted foolishly…
Technically, a “Zoomie” is an Academy grad. As you’ll notice from my rank I KNEW who my father was.
I spent my career flying around in airborne C2 platforms: AWACS, ABCCC. But, you’re right. Our ‘Zeroes’ have most of the fun.
Rags – Long time no see dude. Missed you.
WarEagle – I know what you’re saying, and always respect your opinion. Just allowing a little credit where I think its due. ObaMao gives us plenty to rip him about, maybe we ought to lighten up a little when he does something well.
Good post – and link. Thanks!
One of the several things that bugs me about the media’s spin on this – and that sadly includes some at Fox – is the notion that listening to returning soldiers relate the horrors of war might suffice to create something they’re likening to PTSS.
I think that’s an insult to the many health care professionals who serve in or with the military who likewise deal with the injuries, physical and psychological, of our returning soldiers, yet we don’t hear of them turning weapons on the same soldiers they’re supposed to be helping. Why is that? [that's a rhetorical question folks] It should be painfully obvious what the real underlying problem is here.
In a preview of Obama’s address, the word incomprehensible was said to be included in those remarks; I cannot disagree more strongly. Those who’ve been paying attention comprehend all too well why we now have thirteen dead soldiers, murdered on our own soil by a man who forswore his oath, both as a doctor and as an American soldier.
Hi Rags!
Swede: Tend to agree with you about the sentiment for Obama today. I think the President has to show up for this.
Obama’s “Sermon on the Mount” came off like he was ordering from a menu. Understandable. He used words like Courage, Sacrifice and Selfless Service that are totally foreign concepts to him.
He read the Speech that was handed to him with no emotion or grief.
I said it was a good speech. But we all know him believing a word of it is about as likely as having written it himself.
Knew it wouldn’t take long to be accused of mala fides. Next time do some research so you don’t make the mistake of looking like an ass hurling unwarranted insults.
Wayfaring…War…and everybody…
anybody beside me wonder about PTSD as applied to WWII combat soldiers, sailors, and airmen? Deployment? Most of them served one really LOOOONNNNGGG deployment.
What about Korea? Some of those guys served the duration from the invasion on to the “end”.
I know PTSD is a real deal. But I also know it has NO application here as a rationale to understanding this murderous act. Fanatical Islam is the obvious motivation.
I credit totus.
Yep. He gave good scroll…
This must be one of the screw ups Joe Biden was making excuses for beforehand.. He was talking to Communist News Network:
““And here’s the point I want to make. Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he’s gonna have to make some really tough – I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you, not financially to help him, we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”
Unless I missed something, I didn’t hear anything along the lines of blaming PTSD. I thought Barry mentioned something about no religion justifying this, which seemed a thinly veiled assent to Jihad being the culprit.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/why-there-will-be-more-military-base-shootings/
Read the whole deal, please. Really excellent, and all too prescient.
In the liberal mind, he was exposed to secondary PTSD, like secondary smoke.
“In the midst of a world of light and love, of song and feast and dance, [Lucifer] could find nothing to think of more interesting than his own prestige.”—C.S. Lewis
Right. My bad. I was speaking of the larger cultural BS about this Jihadii “snapping”. I was ambiguous about my point.
PTSD definitely affected WW2 vets. Read any of the books by the Band of Brothers. My mother told me stories of cousins and friends that came home from the war and were never “quite right again” after the experience. Of course, one of her cousins spent years as a Japanese POW.
Don Malarkey talks about some of the emotional affects of the war long after he returned. He wrote in his book that at age 60 he actually set out one night to drive off a cliff. That sounds like PTSD. He and others often talked about “survivor’s guilt” which is an expression of PTSD.
Up until D-Day, relatively few WW2 troops served long stretches on the line. North Africa was an exception but there were relatively few divisions involved. Sicily lasted weeks. Italy was a grind but it didn’t really start until September ’43.
I believe the rule of thumb during WW2 was that troops on the line for more than 90 days were pretty well ineffective. I can’t find a source right now though.
Many divisions remained in the line for 180 days or more after Normandy. Many troops suffered from PTSD because of this and the Army worked out ways to deal with this issue.
I wouldn’t know–I will never listen to him
Hey, Rags!
Good to see you!
Where, O where are the trolls on this and similar threads?
Too busy to document, cross-ts and dot-is, lawyer-proof this statement; but, ever notice that our trolls and bon mot-providers never show up when their mascots are essentially caught red-handed doing something heinous?
I wonder why?
Rags and Swede,
Go back and read the crap Obama just said about this being PTSD related! Complete BULL! The guy has never deployed! They are desperately looking for any excuse to NOT call this a terror attack on US soil! But that is what it is!
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/10/the-fort-hood-memorial-livestream/comment-page-1/#comment-840456
they would rather pick on you, granite.
Fatherless dogs.
Good plan, spacey.
As ssnark pointed out in a recent thread, Barry starting polishing his skills in prevaraction early on.
The only time you can count on his sincerity is when he bashes America, especially white, mainstream, traditional America.
If this keeps up, more people are going to snap, I’m telling you.
People can only take so much, & someone is going to go postal on these people in government who don’t give a rats ass about anyone but themselves, as well as these muslims who are clearly the enemy in our midst.. I don’t know who, & I don’t know when, but I know it will happen..
You got that right.
The comment about it being one guy who cracked is a not so thinly veiled reference.
What do you think jihad is? It is part and parcel of Islam – and there’s nothing radical about it. Islam always has called for waging war on the infidels, and as non-Muslims, that’s us. That’s why the term innocent civilian has no meaning to an Islamic terrorist.
War…no doubt about THE ONE’s earlier BS.
Whoever wrote this speech seems to have gotten it right, though.
Rush has termed the new disorder the MSM loves so much “Pre-traumatic Stress Disorder”. Gotta love that…