Fort Hood jihadist charged with murder. One charge missing.
Nidal Hasan will face 13 charges of premeditated murder for plotting and executing the Fort Hood Massacre.
Details here.
As I noted yesterday, it really should be 14. Not 13.
As for the latest reports of military concerns that Hasan was “psychotic:” With all due respect, what we have here isn’t a mental problem.
It’s an ideological one.
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I say the missing charge is Treason!
Psychotic is more babble from the left to confuse the issue. Hasan is an Islamic terrorist, and it doesn’t matter what his mindset is or was. You can argue that the 9/11 hijackers were all psychotic – that still leaves 3000 plus dead. Finally, if these Muslim terrorists are psychotic, then Islam is the cause of their psychosis.
I disagree Michelle. He does have a mental problem.
The “mental problem” is that an EKG will indicate he still has brain activity. I would make sure his EKG is flat lined as soon as the process allows.
Does this qualify as a hate crime? I don’t claim to be a mind reader but I sure didn’t feel the love.
Liberals don’t define a baby human until it is 2yrs old and socialized according to Holdren!
So why on earth would you think he should be charged silly MM. /sarc
Since a leftist, feminist, abortionist, or homosexual was not killed it cannot by definition qualify as a hate crime.
It is okay to hate soldiers as they are less than human in the eyes of those who support hate crime legislation.
Chances that the military will ‘man up’ and seriously investigate other nut jobs within their ranks? In this administration?
Hello? Is this thing on?
Can Texas charge him for the unborn child?
uh….take off all that strike out…hit the wrong tag….
Flyoverman-Its EEG, and not EKG.
The EEG measures your brains electrical waves and the EKG measures your hearts electrical conduction system.
My personal choise is that the good doctor’s EEG and EKG both go flat line very quickly.
GSP
When a young infantryman I know told me his INFANTRY unit in Iraq was forbidden to carry bayonets when they were on combat operations by the JAG officers, I knew anything was possible.
I wonder why this ‘person’ is not charged with attempted murder on the 30+ he shot along with the 14 who died? I just pray he if found guilty and gets death. A QUICK death.
L
Based my day, I admit I am not even sure what planet I am on….. yes EEG.
No justice will be done, regardless of what is done with regard to Nidal Hasan. In order for justice to be done, the motives of the killer has to be taken into account, and our LAWS should respond to those ideological motives. Hasan’s motives will not be taken into account in any way, and more people will die as a result. The evil behind this cover-up is astounding.
letget,
S/B I just pray he IS found guilty.
L
After he is found guilty, I will volunteer for the firing squad. It’s the least I can do to stand in defense of those who defend me.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
If all the volunteers were allowed to participate, he would have to stand in the middle of the Rose Bowl.
After I’m thrown in prison because I refuse to buy government mandated healthcare, this guy better hope he isn’t in the same prison. That is all.
Not so far off fly I’m sure his EKG is flat. You have to have a heart for that test.
A man sworn to protect and defend the US Constitution guns down fellow US Solders in my belief meets the constitution definition:
His actions are those of a well planned attack. Even though we see his actions a wrong or evil, it does not make him insane. His adherence to our enemies and his action speaks his treason.
If he should be found guilty there’s always the presidential pardon.
I also wonder if they are going to house him in some country club setting because of all the radical right wingers and tea baggers that might want to kill him before his trial?
Those who are responsible for such ROE (politicians who have never walked a patrol, let alone that could even ID a patrol) need to conduct a patrol without said bayonets and then we’ll see if the ROE changes.
TigerLady,
I have a strong feeling bho will pardon him if he is found guilty. This bho does not want to upset the rop.
L
Shoot him under ‘Rule 303′
Michelle wrote:
That may change; listening to the radio just now, someone familiar with the Military code of Justice stated that if a pregnant woman is murdered, then the unborn baby is also counted as a murder victim – the only difference is the death penalty isn’t mandated as a penalty for the death of the unborn child.
This just in: Correcting a centuries old translation error, it’s not 72 virgins, it’s a 72 year old virgin! When asked about the correction, a prominent imam could only respond, “Sorry about that.”
Great swammee say….
“May a desert weirdo drag his figs through Mr. Ass-An’s soup… and may he spend eternity being teabagged by an amorous oinker!”
Addendum on possible charges related to the 14th victim, linked via Drudge:
*emphasis added
Note as per my previous post that the military’s code of justice does recognize the unborn child as another victim; apparently they simply haven’t decided on the additional charges, such as the attempted murder charges with relation to all those who survived the shooting, so we may yet see the 14th victim recognized officially in these additional charges.
IIRC, since 2006 the military’s method for executing convicted prisoners (which hasn’t happened in forever, early 1960s IIRC, Sgt Ackbar the Kuwait fragger still wastes oxygen) is now lethal injection.
We want Hasan sentenced to life without parole. Please no martyr or virgins for him. Let him be isolated from all contact with the world. Like he does not exist.
Maybe Obama won’t charge him with killing that baby.
But God will.
http://tinyurl.com/y9wa2xu
OT: Civil Service to be purged of all Republicans.
Technically, there is nothing in the Koran that definitively declares that the “virgins” are female.
Of course, that might not be a major disappointment for most of these wankers…
Seems like I remember a mid-level hiring manager in a department during the Bush 2 years getting canned for giving preference to Republicans.
Media outcry in 3…2…1… (crickets)
wareagle, male or female virgins may not be as important as human or goat, or some lower life form such as an insect. I just don’t think there is any reliable information on about this deal.
President James A. Garfield shot July 2, 1881 by Charles J. Guiteau
Died September 19, 1881
Charles J. Guiteau found guilty January 25, 1882, hanged on June 30, 1882 in the District of Columbia
We were a better people when we hanged murderers without endless delay. Mr. Guiteau never got to write childrens’ books or be interviewed by some A hole on TV. These new high tech ropes doe not fray so none of that itchy-scratchy feeling for the poor murdering dogs. As the Major suffers from PrePostTramaticStressDisorder we could face the gallows towards Mecca or the nearest pig farm, one or the other.
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How to Tie a Hangmans Noose
Flyoverman I knew what you were thinking, if the good doc is set to be executed for his hate crime, I will nominate you and every other Vet for the privledge of introducing him to the great pediophile in hades mohammed.
GSP
If this quack is ever executed, I plan on firing up the grill and BBQ’ing some good old Memphis Pig Roast!
Ribs and slaw on the side.
GSP
I don’t care if he is a martyr, martyr them all….I want him dead ASAP.
I am personally in favor of arranging one-way tickets to “paradise” for any and all of these Jihadi scumbags. The sooner the better and the more the merrier! I have had too many friends killed by these barbarians. “SoA?” Murdering Pigs is much more accurate.
On November 12th, 2009 at 3:56 pm, vinny said: …
Anybody else ever think the whole 72 virgins, even virgins of your choice, thing isn’t such a great deal anyway? I mean how long does that last anyway? 3 weeks tops? That’s it for all of eternity?
Just FYI, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison has come out supporting the charge of 14 counts of murder.
I advocate hanging, then burying the remains in a tub of pig fat.
Or is that too harsh…?
So 13 counts of pre-meditated murder, and that’s it?
No charges of any sort related to, well, you know.. terrorism?
Hey, it’s still early. I have hopes that other charges are forthcoming.
Why isn’t anyone reporting on the unborn baby that was killed?
The PRESIDENT of the USA mentioned the baby, he stated she was expecting.
Do the Obots not get that the President acknowledged the LIFE of the unborn child.
Talk about some dense people in the Media. Sheppard Smith didn’t mention the unborn child once when he was reporting on the 13 charges of murder against Hasan.
Yeah, and we’d all have issues with the crossfire.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Ann Coulter said it best. She said that a liberal doesn’t consider a person to be alive until they are old enough to fill out an application for a government job.
On the topic…
Stand Hasan up against a wall (make sure he faces any direction other than east) and let any member of the military at Ft. Hood take a shot with their rifle. Even if the first round is right between the horns everyone else can still have a shot. Then pour gasoline over the corpse and ignite it. When it gets to the consistency of a roasted marshmellow (well done on the outside, soft and creamy inside) dump him into the Gulf of Mexico.
Send the film to Al Jazeera for immediate display.
He won’t be.
He’ll be held in a military facility until his sentence to death by firing squad is carried out.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Heck, just send them the corpse.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
“As for the latest reports of military concerns that Hasan was “psychotic:” With all due respect, what we have here isn’t a mental problem.”
Please don’t use that term (with all due respect) — There is NO due respect!
Once again the lawyers screw it all up…it’s war for hell sakes, people die and get killed in wars. Put a rifle in the hands of these Jag officers send them out on patrol for a week or so, then check their attitude when they get back if they do make it back.
Lawyers create most of social problems we have, after all most the law makers are lawyers, whether they ever practiced of not…and don’t any of you lawyers on site here give me that old crap about “lawyers are no good till you need one”. I call BS to that also…if it wasn’t for so many lawyers there wouldn’t be a need for them all.
The military doesn’t use firing squads anymore.
I checked.
Anyone surprised by this…?
Check out CNN.
Can anybody name the US President who ordered that military personnel be disarmed?
Hint: He’s a famous cigar “lover”.
Not if the first ten rows were vacant.
Not only do they not use firing squads anymore, they also don’t allow narcissistic bloggers to participate in military executions.
Rags and/or chap – Alohaguy brought up a good question a while ago. Can Hasan be prosecuted in Texas under the Unborn Victims of Violence Act? (AKA Traci and Conner’s law) The unborn child was obviously not a member of the service.
-Is there a Problem with the Server for the Hotair site?
Swede–
I can’t see a reason why the murderous bastard could not be prosecuted for killing that child.
It is ALSO NOT double jeopardy for a state to prosecute under its laws after the Feds are done with their prosecution.
Whew… That’s a mercy! Kos-sacks are terrible shots…
Especially narcissistic bloggers who self promote their blog twice with every comment.
Lethal injection works for me but have some fun with him first. Take him to the chamber, strap him onto the table and start the IV. Only have it filled with a sedative. He drifts off thinking it’s the end and then a few hours later, he wakes up. Tell him the media and public believe he’s dead but he’s going to be kept in solitary for awhile. Repeat this for a few weeks, months, whatever, until he’s begging for death.
Would that be considered torture? Fine with me.
swede, Rags, if you read my earlier posts, there is still a good chance that Hasan will be charged under the Uniform Military Code of Justice’s statute that recognizes the unborn child as another victim.
Sorry WS, missed your earlier posts. Did not know that was specified in the Military Code. Why would they not charge him with 14 counts now?
Sorta like closing the barn door after the horses have escaped.
There could be fine reasons for not including a count for the death of the baby…they could be waiting autopsy results to assure they are dealing with another victim, for instance. That the young soldier was reputed to be pregnant (or known by her family to be pregnant) would not be forensic evidence.
There could also be crass political reasons not to have included the count…you can guess what those would be.
True, but it points out something extremely important in this era…
the HUGE distinction between law enforcement and war-fighting. We are in a war, but we have to…sometimes…use the very slow and cumbersome tools of due process (which we all want to have) when fighting it.
Sometimes…
THE ONE has confused our military and security organizations with his “leadership” and agnosticism about both American exceptionalism and the evil of Islamism.
Michelle, I just put up something for Baby Velez.
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/11/ft-hood-massacre-13-charges-of-murder.html
the missing charges are treason, terrorism, hate crimes, and being a muslim outside of the middle east where ideological insanity is embraced. some country in europe finally got the stones to tell these muslim camel humpers to assimilate or get out and go back to your absolute muslim states. we really don’t want you in the west. the reason is simple, suppose a typical mosque has 300 muslims at a friday night service. suppose 12 americans bombed those 12 mosques one friday. do you think muslims might worry about americans and fear what these people will do? i think so.
One more important charge needed. About 10,000 volts should do it. Help the SoA SOB complete his mission.
Round up the illegals, round up the Muslims and toss them out. We don’t have much time left until it is too late… it may be already.
Actually, I would argue that more than one additional charge is missing.
Should be charged with 14 murders.
30 counts of attempted murder.
30 counts of felonious assault.
1 act of Terrorism against the US Government.
As usual, they are playing PC with this, because he’s a muslim..
Funny, being a Catholic Christian didn’t stop them from charging Timothy McVey with several federal crimes..
Lets hope there is more charges coming and these are the initial why the unborn baby wasn’t counted is baffling.
There is a federal law that covers unborn babies being murdered, Stacy Peterson’s law.
Hasan yelled out, “Allah akbar” as he shot his victims. Is this a hate crime? Would it be a hate crime if a christian entered a gay bar and shouted, “Homosexuality is a sin” and squarted holy water from a water gun on everyone?..oh, the outrage, the horror of it.
Mr. Hasan should be tried under the new hate crime bill, and is a traitor to his oath of office.
Correction Laci Peterson’s Law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act
Stacy Peterson still missing.
The law applies only to certain offenses over which the United
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a “child in utero” as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines “child in utero” as “a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb.”[2]
The law is codified in two sections of the United States Code: Title 18, Chapter 1 (Crimes), §1841 (18 USC 1841) and Title 10, Chapter 22 (Uniform Code of Military Justice) §919a (Article 119a).
States government has jurisdiction, including certain crimes committed on Federal properties, against certain Federal officials and employees, and by members of the military. In addition, it covers certain crimes that are defined by statute as federal offenses wherever they occur, no matter who commits them, such as certain crimes of terrorism.
vsatt, I’d prefer a variation on the old Mission Impossible episode where they extract a confession out of a hitman by making him think he’s about to be executed.
For Hasan, do as you say, inject him with a sedative then make him believe that our Muslim-in-Chief calls with a pardon. He is taken out of the death room and “revived.” Then tell him that the pardon was overturned by the Supreme Court (how would he know?) and do it all over again. Make it look like a power play between the B.O. and SCOTUS. After about 10 times he will be pleading for death.
Sorry Bob, but the president isn’t under your command. He will leak the information that makes him look good (if there is any) and will keep sealed the information that makes him look foolish, just like he did with the CIA torture memos. You can count on that.
Convict for Treason.
March him to the nearest wall.
Ready, Aim and Fire!
Non-gratuitous Breaker Morant quote!
ECS
…each time waking up in the middle of 72 goats.
Here’s something you don’t see very often. I actually posted something before MM.
http://unitedconservatives.blogspot.com/2009/11/there-were-14-lives-taken-at-ft-hood.html
Just remember, Zero has to sign the order for execution. Anyone giving odds on that?
swede, Rags, sorry I didn’t reply, but I was out for awhile; Rags, I think you may have touched on a possible reason, though it may simply be that the prosecutor is focusing first on the capital murder charges, those that carry the death penalty, and that additional charges may be added.
But without any such statement from the prosecutor, that’s only guesswork on my part.
For those speculating about charges of treason, my understanding is that would shift the prosecution to the federal courts, and away from the military court; same for any prosecution under the law named for Lacee and Connor (sp?), which would probably be the purview of the state’s prosecutor.
And those charges may eventually be handed down; but my opinion is that the military should have first crack at him, for reasons that should be obvious.
I have to hit the hay – an early morning tomorrow. A good night, and peace to you all.
coffee said: “After I’m thrown in prison because I refuse to buy government mandated healthcare…”
Hey, me too. Maybe then I can get that dental care I now have to actually pay for bit by bit.
concretebob Said: “Zero has to sign the order for execution. Anyone giving odds on that?”
He will have his finger in the wind longer on that than he did for Afghanistan troop requests…..Oh wait, his finger is still in the wind on that.
Wait just a minute…you CANNOT call this killer psychotic…this is seriously politically INCORRECT….He is practicing a PROTECTED religion. That religion sanctions killing as a proper way to deal with infidels. You cannot call him psychotic for practicing his religionin an approved mannor. I mean many of the leaders of this religion have sanctioned his actions. I do not recall any muslim speaking out…that he did ANYTHING wrong…..call him PSYCHOTIC…..and you may find yourself on the……list
concrete bob,
I added your link maybe if enough bloggers post about Baby Velez someone will report on it, and we will find out what the status of pending charges if any are for the unborn child of an American Army Veteran.
We just celebrated Veterans Day, I don’t get why the unborn child’s death of Pvt Francheska Velez, isn’t being reported on?
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/11/ft-hood-massacre-13-charges-of-murder.html
Feel free, anyone, to correct me if I’m wrong. If some thug is commmiting an armed robbery and kills a pregnant woman, don’t they usually get charged as well for the life of the unborn child? I imagine this varies from state to state.
On a another area of this case. I heard today that the scumbag was given the word that he is now a paraplegic. I am enjoying imagining that minute when he was told. If earthly conditions carry over to the afterlife (and I hope they do) he can at least look at his 72 virgins. His paralysis is not anywhere near suitable punishment for him, just a little appetizer before his real punishment. I know that I cannot be the only paraplegic here. Any others will know all the difficult aspects of it and the tough rehab, physical and headwise, on the road to getting back to a normal life. The real upside is that he does not have “normal life” or even just a “life” in his future. Suffer away dude, my only sympathy is reserved for the ones who will be paid to wipe your *** between now and the day you are executed.
Prediction. It will not be long before the left begins to use his paralysis as an excuse for leniancy. Stand by for the “It is going to be punishment enough” bleating to begin in the near future.
Folks, you will love this. One of the first threads i came across at DU on this matter is titled “First They Came For The Mosques”. LOL! And of course, a fair smattering of the comments were wondering why they had not siezed Christian churches first.
There is a 15th charge missing here.
Treason.
Of which the proper punisment is tying him to a post in front of a firing squad.
I’ve got a great Idea….why don’t we open an account for this guy….lets start it with $4,000,000.00. He is going to need a rather large team of high priced lawyers and then there are medical costs and he has to have the BEST…so he will probably need quite a bit more than 4 million…but this will be a good start and really show “them” how really NICE we are….one small example of why we cannot afford to give mamagrams to our women any longer.