The Demcare bribe list
Scroll for updates…Landrieu boasts that her payoff was $300 million, not $100 million…
The Most Transparent Administration Ever won’t keep this list.
The Most Ethical Congress ever won’t keep it either.
So we’ll do the list ourselves and shine the light on the payoffs and last-minute backroom deals being made as Demcare heads for the first test vote tomorrow. (On a procedural note, Hill folks note that “Senate Republicans started floor debate today at 11:00 a.m. and will continue until 11:00 p.m. to discuss the $2.5 trillion, 2,074-page health care bill drafted in Senator Harry Reid’s office” ahead of the Saturday cloture vote. C-SPAN’s covering.)
Here are the top five Demcare bribes. Keep an eye out on bribes/offers for Democrat Sens. Ben Nelson of Nebraska; Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas; and Evan Bayh of Indiana. Leave comments or e-mail any new info to add to the list.
Here we go:
1) MARY LANDRIEU AND LOUISIANA: $100 million via Jonathan Karl:
On page 432 of the Reid bill, there is a section increasing federal Medicaid subsidies for “certain states recovering from a major disaster.”
The section spends two pages defining which “states” would qualify, saying, among other things, that it would be states that “during the preceding 7 fiscal years” have been declared a “major disaster area.”
I am told the section applies to exactly one state: Louisiana, the home of moderate Democrat Mary Landrieu, who has been playing hard to get on the health care bill.
In other words, the bill spends two pages describing would could be written with a single world: Louisiana. (This may also help explain why the bill is long.)
Senator Harry Reid, who drafted the bill, cannot pass it without the support of Louisiana’s Mary Landrieu.
How much does it cost? According to the Congressional Budget Office: $100 million.
2) CALIFORNIA: $300 million, via LA Times:
Contained in the nearly 2,000-page House healthcare bill is a little-noticed provision — worth $300 million to California — that would increase federal Medicare payments to doctors in a wide swath of the state in response to complaints that low reimbursement rates have kept them from taking new patients.
Rep. Sam Farr (D-Carmel) was able to include a reimbursement calculation fix in the overhaul legislation. It was a testament to California’s political muscle in the House, where its delegation is the largest of any state and includes Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D- San Francisco) and five committee chairs.
3) AARP
a) Via Philip Klein: $18 million in stimulus money
b) The Medigap royalty/kickback scheme
4) THE ABORTION LOBBY, via LifeNews:
Two leading pro-life organizations that have analyzed the new 2,000-page government-run health care bill released by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid late yesterday say the legislation contains massive abortion funding and a fake amendment that does not truly ban it.
The Senate health care bill does not contain the Stupak amendment the House approved that stops abortion funding under the public option and affordability credits.
Instead, the measure contains a slightly-reworded version of the much-maligned Capps amendment, which a House committee approved on a partisan vote and which pro-life groups say is an accounting scheme to hide government-funded abortions.
“Reid has rejected the bipartisan Stupak-Pitts Amendment and has substituted completely unacceptable language that would result in coverage of abortion on demand in two big new federal government programs,” National Right to Life legislative director Douglas Johnson assured LifeNews.com late Wednesday.
“Reid seeks to cover elective abortions in two big new federal health programs, but tries to conceal that unpopular reality with layers of contrived definitions and hollow bookkeeping requirements,” he continued.
Rep. Lois Capps, whose amendment was deleted when the House adopted the Stupak language, has applauded Reid’s language.
“It appears that their approach closely mirrors my language which was originally included in the House bill,” she said in a statement.
Johnson notes that Reid’s bill establishes the public option and authorizes (on page 118) the Secretary of Health and Human Services to require coverage of any and all abortions throughout the public option program.
“This would be federal government funding of abortion, no matter how hard they try to disguise it,” he says.
He also says the bill creates the affordability credits — new tax-supported subsidies to purchase private health plans — and that these government-funded credits can be used to purchase health insurance plans that directly pay for abortions.
Attorney Mary Harned of Americans United for Life, has also examined the abortion sections of Reid’s new measure, which she says “provides for an unprecedented expansion of federally-funded abortion. ”
“The bill includes pro-abortion language and mirrors the false compromise Capps Amendment from the House debate — it allows the public option to include abortion coverage and provides federal subsidies for private plans which cover abortion,” she said.
5) BIG LABOR
Via Houston Chronicle, Goodies for labor tucked away in health bill:
While higher-profile aspects of health care reform drew attention, pro-union legislators slipped a variety of big benefits for labor into the proposed legislation. Quietly tucked among the proposals’ thousands of pages, these provisions have avoided much scrutiny.
One provision epitomizes the nature of this ploy. According to research firms, unions are woefully short of funds to pay their retirees’ anticipated insurance claims. Thus, under the House resolution, union leaders who have mismanaged these plans for their members could receive up to $10 billion in taxpayer-funded bailout money, innocuously referred to as a “reinsurance program.”
Unfortunately, this is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
Under the proposed public option, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius would wield tremendous discretionary authority to regulate participating health care workers. She and various federal panels, where the unions would have guaranteed seats, would take the lead in recommending health care policy. Thus, labor would have considerable influence over decisions affecting most doctors, nurses and patients.
The House resolution establishes a scenario that would effectively exclude non-union employers from eligibility to work on program-funded contracts. It also requires participating health care providers to pay wages and benefits that have been collectively bargained or that union-friendly appointees determine are competitive. This is plainly a move toward coerced unionization. With guaranteed seats at the table, unions are poised to control many newly formed oversight posts and/or committees, formed in connection with new employer mandates and cooperative health care associations.
Yet another provision would establish lucrative state training partnerships that contain little or no opportunities for non-union employee organizations. Provisions in Senate proposals would exempt union-negotiated health care plans from taxes on “Cadillac” health plans.
These features all encourage more unionization. The unions know that under Canada’s nationalized system, union membership among all health care workers is 61 percent, compared to just 11 percent in the U.S.
Increasing membership similarly in this country would swell labor’s coffers with as much as another $2 billion in dues.
In fact, Senate proposals include language that could force home health workers into unions. Disgraced former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and former California Gov. Gray Davis used this approach to repay political debts to the SEIU in their states. They reclassified state-reimbursed home health contractors as state employees, thus forcing them to pay union dues. Again and again, it is apparent that these union-friendly proposals have nothing do with improving our health care system.
From Mark Mix:
In the heated debates on health-care reform, not enough attention is being paid to the huge financial windfalls ObamaCare will dole out to unions—or to the provisions in the various bills in Congress that will help bring about the forced unionization of the health-care industry.
Tucked away in thousands of pages of complex new rules, regulations and mandates are special privileges and giveaways that could have devastating consequences for the health-care sector and the American economy at large.
The Senate version opens the door to implement forced unionization schemes pursued by former Govs. Rod Blagojevich of Illinois in 2005 and Gray Davis of California in 1999. Both men repaid tremendous political debts to Andy Stern and his Service Employees International Union (SEIU) by reclassifying state-reimbursed in-home health-care (and child-care) contractors as state employees—and forcing them to pay union dues.
Following this playbook, the Senate bill creates a “personal care attendants workforce advisory panel” that will likely impose union affiliation to qualify for a newly created “community living assistance services and support (class)” reimbursement plan.
The current House version of ObamaCare (H.R. 3200) goes much further. Section 225(A) grants Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius tremendous discretionary authority to regulate health-care workers “under the public health insurance option.” Monopoly bargaining and compulsory union dues may quickly become a required standard resulting in potentially hundreds of thousands of doctors and nurses across the country being forced into unions.
Ms. Sebelius will be taking her marching orders from the numerous union officials who are guaranteed seats on the various federal panels (such as the personal care panel mentioned above) charged with recommending health-care policies. Big Labor will play a central role in directing federal health-care policy affecting hundreds of thousands of doctors, surgeons and nurses.
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Update: More sweeteners…
With all 40 Republicans in lockstep opposition, all 60 members of the Democratic caucus had to vote yes — and that gave each one an opportunity to extract concessions from Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid.
Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) won a promise from Reid to support his plan to expand eligibility for health insurance. Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) got Reid to jettison a provision stripping health insurers of their antitrust exemption. Landrieu got the concessions for her money. And Lincoln won an extended, 72-hour period to study legislation.
And the big shakedown is yet to occur: That will happen when Reid comes back to his caucus in a few weeks to round up 60 votes for the final passage of the health bill.
Update: Wheeling & dealing: Snowe pow-wows with Obama; Landrieu, Schumer, Daschle behind the scenes.
Update: Cash for Cloture!
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They do not care because they, and we know who they are, are elitist know everythings and have not the slightest inkling on how regular, hard working, tax paying, God Loving, Constitution respecting people think and live their lives. Their sole purpose is to rule and be damned with the documents our forefathers wrote that give us the rights we were lucky enough to be born under.
“Their sole purpose is to rule and be damned with the documents our forefathers wrote”
That’s right. They think its their birth right to rule over us.
Its the political class. Sadly its not a mindset that is limited to the left.
These people fear phone calls for the love of Pete!
We booted the Brits we can damn sure boot these twits.
is it just me or does very dem who speaks have a lisp?
An excellent series. I’ll probably add it to my collection. We have cemeteries all over Europe, plus unknown graves in the Pacific. They’re trying to find them now on Tarawa, I saw. They would be disgusted with our government toay.
okay am going to drink whenever I hear Harry Potter too.
I’m still trying to figure out when Soupy Sales worked for Social Security.
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HI JSMIDDLETON4–good insights into our current situation. Remember their names, “tea party” them whenever they show up. Support those TAKING POINT like SARAH PALIN, MICHELLE MALKIN, DICK MORRIS, RUSH LIMBAUGH, MARK LEVIN, etc.
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We can take it back in 2010 and 2012 if we try. They can run, but they can’t hide from the elections–and voter wrath when the tax hikes hit home. TSUNAMI COMING!
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John Bibb
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What the heck does the Lousleezyanna purchase think she is accepting some prize?
Let me just say, I am so mad I can hardly stand it. I’m mad beyond words. Unhealthy mad.
The GOP, conservatives, and conservative independents better get ready to take it to the streets. If not an all-out revolt then be prepared to take it to the streets by campaigning door-to-door next year to get rid of as many democrats as possible.
Folks, there’s nothing wrong with our form of government. No. The problem is that it has been taken over by power-hungry corrupt people who want as many on the public dole as possible. I hate them all.
“What the heck does the Lousleezyanna purchase think she is accepting some prize?”
The redistribution of debt is interesting. Its not wealth as we don’t have the money to being with. So folks in what Iowa are going to pay for the debt incurred for handouts in Lousiana? And somehow someone considers it a good thing?
Rush is saying that there’s a provision in the bill that does indeed give the Government direct access to individual’s bank accounts.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080609/content/01125111.guest.html
State Militias should begin to collaborate, & get ready, because it’s possible we’re gonna be in for a VERY bumpy ride..
REVO-F%CKING-LUTION!
Well, Landrieu just said she’ll vote yes.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/21/senate-crucial-vote/
We’re so screwed.
If you have no centavos you can send the RINO lads and lasses a McCain Nada Peso-enjoy.
Well, I did a little research.. It appears that there’s no DIRECT provision for attaching anyone’s bank account, but that the vagueness of some of the provisions leaves that possibility open. If that ever happens, me & my AR-15 will be joining the closest reputable state militia in my area..
Ok then take two breaths and get to just very mad; revenge is best served cold. But mad, iritated, POed is all good. Stay mad my friend-in the healthy-for you-zone.
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George Mason: “I ask you sir, who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people.” (Elliott, Debates, 425-426)
Richard Henry Lee: “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.” (Additional letters from the Federal Farmer, at 169, 1788)
James Madison: “A WELL REGULATED militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.” (1st Annals of Congress, at 434, June 8th 1789, emphasis added.
Here’s a link to the bill.. Let’s see how much damage they’ve done..
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/111909_ReidBill.pdf
A RESPONSE FROM SENATOR CORKER:
Dear Mr. Prendergast,
Thank you for taking the time to contact my office about H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act. As you know, Senator Reid has introduced the Senate version of the House bill, H.R. 3590, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Your input is important to me, and I appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts.
I share your concerns about the bill and assure you that I will not vote for it if it is even close to its present form when it comes before the Senate for a vote. I believe all Americans should have the opportunity to be able to purchase affordable, private, quality health care coverage and have presented several reforms to achieve that goal. However, among many other significant problems, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act would take money away from Medicare, which is predicted to be insolvent by 2017, and leverage it to create a new entitlement program rather than using it to make Medicare more solvent. The bill also expands Medicaid and sends the cost to states, a huge unfunded mandate that creates a very painful situation for Tennessee as well as other states. H.R. 3590 uses typical Washington budget gimmickry, taking ten years of new taxes to finance six years of spending, resulting in huge deficits in the next decades. In addition, studies are showing that Tennesseans who have health insurance will see their costs rise dramatically as a result of this bill.
Thank you again for your letter. I hope you will continue to share your thoughts with me.
Sincerely,
Bob Corker
United States Senator
So if it looks like Reid will lose this vote, do you think it will happen or will he stall the vote?
Check It Out
Translation:
Bayh wants us to believe he’s going to do his job by pretending to consider both sides and come to a conclusion that is in the best interest of his constituents. What he’s really thinking is “who cares what POS healthcare system we shove on the peons? Me and mine aren’t going to have to live with it because we’ve got our Cadillac Plan financed by the same peons. And we won’t worry about any increased taxes because I can always steal more from the public traasury than any taxes I might be forced to pay if I get outed as a non-payer like Geithner and Daschle did. Damn, are those guys idiots for getting caught or what?”
“Me and mine aren’t going to have to live with it because we’ve got our Cadillac Plan financed by the same peons.”
My guess is that just might be in jeopardy if there is ever anything concrete with which theirs can be compared. Also the federal employees union health plan, etc.
There are lots of things at stake if we ever have a “government plan” that I’m sure are being discussed.
Via Fox: Sen. Lincoln’s Support for Health Care Debate Gives Dems 60 Votes..
Their Treason is complete..
even though it may be too late if this gets passed, we need a bloodbath at the polls next year if for nothing but to exact some retribution on the dimocrap party…why isn’t there 3-4 million people in D.C. shouting them out?? only two more nails (crap and tax/shamnesty) and the coffin of America as we knew it will be placed into the ground and covered over….
If Angry Aliens were to land Searchlight, Nevada would be a good place. Dingy Harry does have an Other Worldly look to him-SanFranNan looks as she has seen an Angry Alien. You just might be on to something here. We are thinking Arizona’s 9th Congressional District is made up of Angry Aliens–as we do not have a 9th Congressional District but 30 jobs have been saved or created with just $761,420 in federal stimulus spending. That is but $25,000 per Angry Alien-cheaper than the other kind of Aliens they stick us with.
Candidates running in 2010 had better have the reversal of this and other legislation as a major part of their platform. Every state needs a recall procedure. So much damage can be done before 2010, that it would be nice to fire many in Congress before then. The political parties have become too powerful and too corrupt. The fact that the House could pass the healthcare bill while thousands of citizens were outside demanding that the bill not be passed, is pathetic. These mentally deficient, morally bankrupt, income raiding goons need to be removed from office in such a way as to not have them return in later administrations as political appointees. Enough is enough!!!! They are spending money we haven’t even made yet, borrowing money we won’t be able to pay back and printing money willy-nilly. Who died and made these dopes God? No wonder they have little regard for hard work or our money.
I’m sorry to have to read these comments.
I’m again going to have to encourage all of the people in the United States of America to prepare as best they can to defend their liberty.
Lock and load. Get ready to kill the beasts that are taking away your freedom. This is not a political game as is being portrayed by the media. This is your future and your children’s future.
The cost of implementing the programs that the current administration is pushing through YOUR Congress is unsustainable, and will bankrupt this country and our society.
The loss of freedom is priceless.
Do not accept this takeover by the Leftists that dominate our government now. Resist by all and any means.
If that means revolution, the so be it.
Sorry the last sentence above should have read:
If that means revolution, then so be it.
I should have known not a single one of these worthess Democrats would do the right thing. They were all just holding out for more bribes. I can’t believe I actually had a few moments of hope that not ALL Democrats were evil socialists. Obviously, I was wrong about that.
WW2 in HD? Yes, wonderful heroism. Wonderful Americans. Now they’re all old men, or already gone. It makes me want to cry when I see that amazing, unbelievable footage. What courage, what bravery!
Now some piss-ant Communist Kenyan is taking it all away with the help of leftist scum like Pelosi and Reid, and others.
How did we go so wrong? What happened? It’s like it happened in a blur.
I hope all you liberal scum rot in hell for what you are doing to America.
All Democrats are scum! ALL OF THEM!
“Lock and load. Get ready to kill the beasts…”
Or you may just want to get involved in local politics, support conservatives, lead by example and vote conservatives into office starting in 2010.
Money talks and the conscience walks. This “cash for cloture” maneuver of Dingy Harry’s is the only thing that will bring this bill up for debate. It’s kind of sad when you have to BRIBE people to vote for your terrible legislation.
This country is going down the sh!tter more every day and nobody wants to do anything about it except hold out a hand and ask, “where’s mine?” Healthcare isn’t something one “deserves” as so many liberals assert, it’s something that is earned and part of one’s budget.
Unfortunately, the attitude among many of the duplicitous among us, is, “why should I pay?” Let those mean rich pay for my lifestyle.
I then ask those who still believe in the “promise” of America: are we still in this together?
I’m sorry, but I do not agree with taxing the producers, the insurers, or the “evil” rich. That is not how we do things in this country, but, apparently that is how social democratic states get voters on their side.
Let’s face it, we’re no longer a Republic, we’re a social democracy who gives voters, including the middle class, goodies to keep libtards perpetually in office. The politicians, including Landreu, Nelson, and Lincoln, aren’t listening to their constituents. They WILL pay for their duplicity.
And people wonder why I don’t want to reproduce. If my kid doesn’t even have a future, why have a child who will have to leave the country anyways to find a better life? I WILL NOT make my child endure the blatant lie of a republic that no longer exists and has been supplanted by a social democratic welfare state instead.
I HOPE the wealthy and producers LEAVE this country. Why stay when all you’ve worked for will just be taken away from you anyway? What is even more amazing is how many people harken back to Eisenhower’s tax the rich as high as 70-90% because it’s their job to support the slackers. Anybody who ever thought Eisenhower was a conservative should take a look at how he taxed the wealthy.
I don’t recognize this country anymore. My husband may be in the military, but I don’t owe a federal government who does nothing but take from me. If I were to sell my book (I’m an aspiring writer) they would just take their “fair share” of my paycheck. I also know what poverty looks like and how very “preventable” it actually is. My mother’s family was poor because of poor money management skills, not because of “bad circumstances.”
That’s what people don’t get about healthcare right now. It’s not an entitlement, or a right, when you’re parasitically sucking the producers for everything they’re worth. I’m not going to fall in line with that and I never will.
The grand pubahs of both political parties can kiss my a$$.
“It’s kind of sad when you have to BRIBE people to vote for your terrible legislation.”
1. That is the way it works or has come to work.
2. Its not voting for the legislation. Its a vote to take the vote for or against the Senate’s version legislation.
Thanks for the reality check js. I’m not so worried about the vote today. As Michelle so eloquently says, “Sunlight is the best disinfectant.” Lets get this humongous steaming pile of crap out in the open where the voters can see it. Taxpayer funded abortions? Healthcare for illegal aliens on our dime? Massive national deficit?
It will never happen if these vermin want to get re-elected, and you know that’s all they really want.
“Lets get this humongous steaming pile of crap out in the open where the voters can see it.”
Amen. And remember nothing about either bill, House or Senate, is law yet and based on the bills themselves will not even come close to being enacted prior to having 2 major national election cycles.
We will see a huge push, under the guise of needing more tax payers to fund this monster, by early spring and the only way to do that is to amnesty the millions of illegals. “Bring them out of the shadows’ and invite them to contribute and share the burden. /sarc
Every day it’s a new assault and by keeping us all busy screaming about yesterday’s black eye, we are kept off our game. Lump everything together, nevermind this country is insolvent, and it’s not a pretty picture. We’ve connected the dots, hardly anyone else has bothered to even look for them.
Oh you mean just like you and all your friends and buddies did in 2008. Get real. And you really think that the 2010 election is going to cure the virus that is already taking us into serfdom.
Get a life, moron.
Should it look as if the 2010 elections are going too badly against them this just might be necessary. Having Obama surrounded by so many True Believers I just can not see them giving up power easily. Call it the Van Jones Plan.
Wait for the Man Caused Disaster.
Obama-Speak: Homeland Security Secretary Replaces ‘Terrorism’ With the Term ‘Man-Caused Disaster’ to move away from the politics of fear.
So we prepare and wait.
Back at ya. Let’s see…conservatism was pronounced dead in ’64, ’76, ’92 and ’08. Clue to fgmorley, come in please.
Must be true-Time magazine said so-repeatedly.
Time Magazine-another dinosaur bleeding subscribers.
May God have mercy on everyone who takes part in this treasonous takeover of our country. History will record their names. They won’t go unpunished.
Buying Votes with “borrowed” cash. Despicable to say the least.
The Parliament of Whores, accountable to no one and hopefully to be voted out of office in the next elections. This burden they placed on My Grandchildren is totally inexcusable.
Rope, tree, traitor. Some assembly required.
Why are We the People putting up with this? Don’t we have the power to recall all this crooks NOW? We would then forse the local FBI and law enforsement to do their jobs. Each one of these electd ones are still citizens of their home state, ARE THEY NOT? Let us start at the local level. TOGETHER YES WE CAN !!!!!
Meanwhile, Obama keeps complaining about how corrupt the Afghan government is
Last night I watched the first half of a biography of Reagan. He went home after losing to Ford in ’76, biding his time as Carter excreted on the country, with lines of cars waiting to fill their tanks and hostages languishing in Iranian hellholes.
Yes, this is bad, and will likely get even worse, even if we couldn’t have imagined the abject disaster Obama and these leftists are inflicting on our country. We will, however, continue to have an awakening and rebirth to cast out these crooks in the next cycle and after. Continue is the operative word–the rebirth has already begun. Now is the time to focus our anger and energy on the political bloodbath that must take place next November. Look to your local political office and start working on the campaigns of those who will take our country back. Or run yourselves. Now is the time to get started, because these incumbent criminals have no intention of listening to their constituents whatsoever or of faithfully upholding their oaths of office.
Clue to Swede…this isn’t ’64, ’76, ’92 or ’08. Keep waiting for 2010 or 2012 to cast your world-changing ballot at the polls, and you’ll be too late to stop this takeover of the country.
Fact is, there has already been so much damage economically and governmentally that it will take decades to undo it.
What’s funny is I don’t really damn the Dems all that much. They’re only doing what Dems do, like birds fly. The ones I REALLY disdain are the so-called patriotic Conservatives who didn’t want to swallow bitter pills and hold their noses and even stayed home rather than vote for McCain, espousing specious excuses based on the political “purity” or fidelity of the guy (who wasn’t mine). Well, we just found out how many angels could dance on the head of that pin, and it’s “60″. So I hope those who felt they so honorably preserved their political/philosophical purity by withholding their vote are smug and peachy-keen these days that your rebel free expression left the country in FAR worst shape than you ever dreaded because these nannystate programs CANNOT be reversed — whether we sweep in 2010 0r 2012 or ever.
Great going guys!
James Greenidge
Queens NY
Well then fgmorley other action MAY be required. But in the meantime I plan to work towards culling the RINOs, taking back the House and some Senate seats. I have long held the belief that the Fascist/Progressives WILL NOT give up power once that have come this far, come this close. Nothing so trivial as a Constitutionally required election will stop them.
IF that is indeed the case it will be time for other action. We have our Declaration of Independence and Constitution (that Bill of Negative Rights per Blue Lips w/ears) as a guide and duty to preserve.
After the Treaty of Paris, 1783 those colonials who supported King and Parliament had to leave-one way or the other.
I voted for the SOB out of despair-and only despair. Just how much better would McCain be? He is a statist pure and simple. He does indeed support almost all of Blue Lips w/ears agenda. A more cost effective, streamlined Fascism is still Fascism. If McCain were President would there be as much Republican opposition to the Bail Outs, Cap and Trade, a more cost effective Socialized Medicine, “reaching across” to Pelosi and Reid? It was a Faustian Bargain in 2008-at best.
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Apesadumbrado, no mas de pesos para RINOS
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Why?
Sorry. Evil begets evil, and rotten always leaves a stink.
emjem24 said:
Sorry. It was begging for a modification.
On November 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 am,
You are right, of course. Fixed it.
By the way, it will be important to make very sure the 2010 elections are not corrupted!! We need to have a plan to protect them. If juse ONE lib had not stolen the last election, the senate bill would not have gotten cloture. The one I am referring to in my own state is Al Freakin. He lost the election by a close margin, so was able to get a recount. Then, ballots magically appeared in the trunk of a car, etc. Then, valid ballots were thrown out and others hand selected, thanks to the corruption in the process. Al Freakin did not win the election. He stole it. Everyone knows is and it is common knowledge in Minnesota. Yet, there he is because no one seems to be able to do anything about it. We have to put in some safeguards in 2010 because you can be sure they will pull their tricks. Why do you think the libs don’t seem to be concerned about losing? Probably because they know how to steal your vote. Without free elections, we have no hope.
I just heard that Obama has mentioned he may not run for a second term. Has anyone else heard that? If so, why would he say that? Unless he realizes he is doing so much damage, he hasn’t a prayer of re-election. He is so open and obvious about his socialist/marxist plans for the U.S., perhaps he knows he will be taken down. Also, his past records are being meticulously searched. Maybe he knows that something very incriminating in his past will be found and destroy him. I can’t figure out any other reason why everything he does is so frantic and rushed!! (Except his decision on Afghanistan, of course). He seems to be trying to accomplish his “fundamental transformation” of the country in a huge hurry, as if he knows he is a one-termer.
Haven’t heard that, but it would make sense. The first black president must not leave on a failing note, but bow out gracefully…you know.
Ick! Did I say that?
Kinda like the juvenile delinquent who leaves a flaming sack of excrement on your porch, rings the doorbell, and runs like hell into the dark of night.
Yeah, except that he is already failing. What will his legacy be after 3 more years? History is not going to judge this Kenyan Kreep kindly.
Ha!! I can picture all of the libs doing that! Just put Obama in that scenario. Too funny!
OK Rambo, so your solution is armed insurrection? Shooting people? For God’s sake get a grip. Sounds like something I’d read on Daily Kos a few years back. Your rhetoric would be scarey if we didn’t know that you are just a keyboard warrior.
So if democracy doesn’t work for you, what form of government are you advocating? Maybe a military junta, monarchy, totalitarian, theocracy? Democracy has serious flaws, but is still the best system of government. ObaMao’s approval has droped 20% in just 9 months, more than any president in history, and Congressional approval is 24%. The majority of Americans are conservative, not Republican. NY 23 will be a watershed for the GOP. They will either get it or die, but they are becoming irrelevant.
Sadly, possibly true. Maybe you can enlighten us how an armed insurrection will undo it. I am actively working for conservative candidates, not a party, and participating in the tea party movement. It’s certainly making more of a difference than fanatical rhetoric with no basis in reality. If you really are serious, you should be locked up.
Run, as in force the proletariat to chose again? The riff raff have voted once for the Chosen One why bother them again? He Who Has Won One will allow the Politburo to do the choosing. Then the purges; thus the need for Obama’s Civilian National Security Force-. The man told us of his goals, he did not lie. Please not not think he will allow “that Bill of Negative Rights” to block Blue Lips w/ears.
History does have a tendency to repeat itself. Stalin was not totally unique.
Now now Swede, given that the bill HAS BEEN PASSED you see how effective the tea parties were? You and most tea party goers are an annoyance nothing more.
Many demanded that this not go through, and it has. Democracy, and the Republic for that mater are good and dead, now you’ll wine say you’ll vote for more conservitives who won’t get ellected, that is if ellections are even needed now, but thats it. Annoying? yes, world changing? No.
Good luck stoping cap and trade, but you won’t.
Before anyone states it I’m aware its not on the presidents desk, but if bribes can get it on the table, why not passed also?
Reality check 1. The vote last night was to bring the bill to the floor for debate. It is lightyears from being passed, and never will be in anything like its present form, and neither will Cap and Tax. Even more than getting payoffs for their districts Congresscritters want to get re-elected. They know they will not if they vote for this steaming pile of crap. Dingy Harry is already out in Nevada. This will nail his coffin shut.
Reality check 2. Conservatives are the majority in America.
The ’08 election was an anomoly, a result of severe anti Bush sentiment, and the GOP running a RINO moron. Even he only lost by 5% of the popular vote. Hardly the landslide claimed.
Okey dokie then. If democracy is dead, lets have your alternative. Shoot ‘em up? Please.
I knew that raising loose tobacco prices 156% (for SCHIP), wouldn’t be good enough and that everyone would end up getting taxed for SCHIP. What a surprise! Now also the PACT Act which will put a lot more people out of business.
Swede, the problem is, the Lamestream media machine helped to Railroad McCain down our throats as the “candidate of choice”, when there were people like Duncan Hunter out there, or others who were much more qualified.. We can’t let that happen again.. McCain was the best candidate for the Democrats, & they knew it.. As soon as he won the primary, they turn on him like the Jackals they are.
Shoot ‘em
upPlease, thank you. Six firing squads, no waiting.Softnose spitzer-Hornady.
Even if ‘Bambi and his deciples vacated the w.h. tomorrow, there is still no viable way to pay off our debts. With the rate we’re spending though we’re about to find out what happens when the world’s most powerful nation files for bankruptcy.
If the Chinese and Russians are so good at hacking, why haven’t they found the evidence to support the many claims out there that our Candy Man isn’t qualified to hold office? If that could be proven wouldn’t all treaties and domestic bills he’s signed be negated? Perhaps they have and that’s why ‘bambi is completely ignoring any modicum of civility toward our oldest allies, openly insulting them, while sucking up to the tyrants of the world?
He did hint he might not get reelected in ’12…so, does he have his eyes on the U.N. or simply prez of the pacific?
Isn’t that an oxymoron? A conservative democrat? (from AP)
Nope. Many Democritters are more conservative than the RINOs. Kennedy was like a John Bircher compared to McMaverik.
Go here and scroll down to lower right side to vote on health care
You can put lipstick on bribery and it is still bribery.
Let’s make sure that relish these wondeful memories of chicanery and graft in 2010 and beyond. The Republic is at stake.
When I voted, it was 54% to 46% in favor of it. Why do I find that hard to believe?
Are the majority of American really that ignorant? (Dumb question, I guess. Look who was elected potus.
Interesting, the result at CNN is 54 – 46 for BamaCare. Same spread for Barry over Mav in the election, no?
nlebou – I went over to your link @7:22PM on the poll. Ye gads, couldn’t believe how upside down it is. Come on guys, we can scew this thing just like ‘their viewing audiance’ did!
Demcare Bribe List – just wondering if Reid will respect Landreiu in the morning? So, again, LA soaks (no pun intended) the rest of the country’s taxpayers because they don’t understand what ‘evacuate’ means. I still to this day think the line by Gen. Honore hit it spot on..”stuck on stupid.”
The spelling s/b The Honorable Sen. Landrieu(D)LA
OTOH – I’m thinking that Reid will write a book in his retirement about this incident and the ghosts will scream, and deny every single line in it. The eat their own.
Please don’t judge us all by the “stupid” few.
Well it is CNN…just sayin
300 mil? Is that all? How long do you think that will last when all the old folks from other states start moving to Lousiana for the extra Medicare benefits? Like they showed on 60 Minutes tonight, that much Medicare money won’t go very far. As long as Congress is giving away our money and grandchildren’s future, Landreaux should have held out for more.
Gosh, I hope he’s not going to declare a state of emergency and postpone the elections. That would cause my enlistment and commissioning oaths to activate on the “…against all enemies, foreign and domestic..” clause.
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Great work Michell,
We can beat this yet, hold it up with lawsuits until 10″. We must be vigilant though, we cannot loose our enthusiasm.